Another great installment in the series, and an impactful one because it doesn't shy away from talking about the heart-wrenching failures and does not sweep them under the rug or pretend they never happened.

It's pretty wild that this feature length documentary about one of the premier science organizations in the USA has under 600 views

@stevenmccormack2363

Жыл бұрын

Says a lot about the collective cranium of the country…

@luke3501

Жыл бұрын

I've loved every JPL video I've watched. The trials and tribulations. The challenges. The achievements. And especially...the people.

@gamerfortynine

Жыл бұрын

Yt has squashed free use. I dont think you understand how bad this is. I used to get 6+ hours of free use documentaries PER DAY.

@ShawnRitch

Жыл бұрын

Especially when they have, at this time, 1.13 million subscribers. I believe the majority of the population is more interested it entertainment and, what I call "now pleasure", than truth or what is really happening or has happened on more of a reality sense - unfortunately.

@jackb3822

Жыл бұрын

@@ShawnRitch It doesn’t really help that it a somewhat obscure corner of youtube. They should push this stuff out on more platforms.

This is a lesson for life not to be cheap because, on the end, you'll pay double price. Such a great work by all who worked hard to accomplish impossible. We are humans after all.

Impressive. Good lessons for all of us. I retired from JPL in 1996. The last project I worked on was Cassini. I'm glad it worked so well. Not all of my projects did.

@Half-CockedG

Жыл бұрын

Thanks for your service to space exploration Sir.

Mistake makers that pick themselves up, learn from those mistakes, and make PROGRESS! Learning is what makes us great inventors.

These JPL documentaries are so great, thank you!

Well, I assume this documentary is an approved documentary to come out of NASA. If that is true, then for NASA, to put this damning self assessment out in public view is remarkable. I guess such assessment can only lead to improvements. It is, indeed, a well produced piece. I tip my hat to NASA.

@trooperbias737

Жыл бұрын

After Dan Goldin wasting millions then retiring on guaranteed millions to live on? I don't tip my hat to him or casani. They should have been fired with no retirement.!

@PBeringer

9 ай бұрын

I'd say that NASA is one of the most transparent bureaucracies in the world, so, in a way, it's to be expected. Conspiracy theorists, etc. who think NASA are the gatekeepers of all knowledge don't necessarily think so. Haha. Though, they're not _entirely_ transparent about just what a lunatic Dan Goldin was as NASA Administrator.

Excellent presentation. I was in Tasmania, online with my dial-up internet connection, eagerly following each update of the MPL, hoping against hope that the next contingency would come through.

16 seconds in ..I already LOVE this...! JPL are the successful blending of IT Network geek and steely eyed Systems Integration Engineer. Hail to JPL. ! I love you. I dream sometimes that I tried harder in Mathematics and Physics, so that I could work at JPL.... Alas... That didn't happen, so I as most am an enthusiastic viewer of the BEST people to bring about the exploration of our Solar System..! Thank you..!

@AdityaKumar-gx1ud

Жыл бұрын

Human beings will do anything outside except for turning inward and completely still the mind without any thoughts. What have these people achieved? Immortality? Helped them uncover secrets of life? Nothing. I'm not disrespecting them but science is only one side of the coin, only few of us make an attempt to see the other side, many of us don't even believe that there is other side to that coin.

Great documentary... Worth displaying in high-level administration and management courses. Big achievements are not composed of pieces of all-pure-success, as "big" implies wrestling with numerous risks and unknowns. No risk is immune from failure. This is not a case for blaming, as proper lessons are extracted and appropriate steps taken for final progress. Also, gives place for a number of valuable examples of team spirit, leadership, technical challenge, responsibility, etc. Congratulations...

Can't wait for the premiere! These documentaries are really great.

As a system architect I just don’t understand how anyone who has previously been involved in challenging and complex projects could ever believe in “Faster, Better, Cheaper”. This video did little to shine light on that particular piece of these failures. But cudos for attempting to shine a light on your own mistakes and learning from them rather than, well you know, the alternative.

@bigpod

6 ай бұрын

doesnt faster, better, cheaper work quite well in a environment where oneoffs arent a thing and testing is cheap aka not this

Exceptional documentary. Such accounts allow us to take the true measure of the extraordinary scientific and engineering accomplishments achieved by these dedicated people, accomplishments which nowadays almost look routine as they follow one another. Coordinating such projects in all their complexity is no small feat, and anyone involved in such management, from any side of it, funding, etc., will find this document invaluable.

I applaud JPL for their amazing work. And for their bravery in producing this bare all documentary. Every industry experiences failures. What you do next is the measure to judge by. Personally, I would be happy to be the lady working in the cafeteria just to say 'I too work at JPL'. Thanks.

As I went along with them watching their journey, I felt real frustration and anger at the loss of the mission, the bureaucracy of all of the last minute instruments that were proposed to be added to the space craft, and how much hard work and dedication was lost to something as simple as metric conversion. I CANNOT imagine what the team at JPL or Lockheed Martin felt watching it unfold in real time. That's how you get grey hair or start losing in at an early age... lol.

Such a dark, sad time, but JPL has been spectacular since...MER rovers, Curiosity, Percy, Cassini, etc.

Good series. Look forward to many more.

Those delicate moments but Genius dared to put aside obstacles and obtain the destination, thank you for your time and effort into the great establishment of the JPL!

I personally think we all should show ALOT of respect for all the NASA teams they have achieved so much and they have ALOT more wins then they do fails let's not forget that so to all the NASA teams you get a big 👍🇬🇧

Amazing information, thanks for share 💯🌎🙏

One word I can talk about this video is shear "Beauty" Failure is not an option, but without it, there wouldn't be appreciation for the things that we have achieved... Experiments which were done in Space have been used one way or the other for the people on Earth, but experiences we have gained is far greater than Space Exploration itself. Space has taught us to appreciate life on Earth and its ecosystem. When we begin our journey to far of planets we would learn even more and evolve into an interplanetary species. The people in this video are so lucky to be in the forefront of Space exploration.

JPL documentaries are always immaculate.

Superb documentary

Another great doco of jpl.

Awesome documentary

Loved it! Thanks!

There is no failure if you learn from it and over come it. Failure is part of the learning, engineering, building and application processes. Science!❤

Looking forward to seeing this. Please make a playlist of just videos and not Q&As because that’s what I like to watch as I loved the changing faces of Mars and voyagers etc *AND FOR GOD SAKE GIVE THEM THE FUNDING FOR MORE VIDEOS/DOCUMENTARIES* because they’re the main reason me and many others are here now!!! ❤🇬🇧🇺🇸🇦🇺🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇨🇦🇺🇦🇳🇿🇪🇺☮️🇳🇿🇺🇦👍🇨🇦🏴󠁧󠁢󠁥󠁮󠁧󠁿🇦🇺🇺🇸🇬🇧

@jeffneejpl

Жыл бұрын

Here you go: www.jpl.nasa.gov/who-we-are/documentary-series-jpl-and-the-space-age

Pushing the teams to their breaking points, just like pushing the spacecrafts to their breaking point was and is a good strategy you need to know your limits not just technical but also organisational limits to get the most done.

"Thank you for being a reliable source of information in a world filled with misconceptions. Your dedication to scientific accuracy is truly commendable. "

Great documentary. Also incredible to see Dan Goldin fearlessly contradict himself.

Loved it!

Can't really thank JPL enough for this series.

Bold documentary 😅 well done JPL 🎉

The head of Nasa's comments are very valid. You cannot have stunning science without failure. And more so, yeah mistakes were made "So what???"

These are the people and the things they do MAKE AMERICA GREAT. I for one am very very proud to be an American SCIENTIST who has contributed something towards some of the key products that went into space missions in the past

@PBeringer

Жыл бұрын

That's a rather parochial and chauvinistic outlook ... these are the people that make the HUMAN SPECIES great. JPL is almost always in collaboration with ESA and other international space agencies, and many people working at the lab itself come from other parts of the world. Countries are dumb; get over it, put the flag away and accept that humans are humans, no matter what part of this speck of dust they were born.

Great, great documentaries. I am absolutely fascinated about robotic missions in our solar system, and beyond!!!What is next, landing a man on Mars???Landing a man on Venus???

During that era at JSC we low level workers had a saying: "Better, Faster, Cheaper, pick any two".

Reminds of an age old axiom, you can have it better, cheaper or faster...but you can't have all three.

Great management. Goldin. We need more leadership lke yours. Bravo NASA!

I remember one day after watching the slew of documentaries on successful space missions, I wanted to see documentaries (like this one) discussing failed space missions. It sucks when it happens however, we are not perfect and we need to remind ourselves of that when people start wanting to re-adjust NASA's budget. We should expect once or twice failures occurring because what's the point of starting such a mammoth and complex task only to run away from it when we fail once or twice like in this situation. I ride or die with NASA even in their failures because the one thing I know they are very good at doing is learning from their mistakes and come back bigger and better than before. So bravo NASA/JPL for having the courage to confront and discuss what we would all like to forget but shouldn't.

That's what happens when you put accountants ahead of engineers. I hope the board at Boeing are watching.

Absolutely loving these documentaries! Ed Stone's directorship of the lab spanned its most difficult time, surely. Love that guy. And does JPL hire acousticians? I'm less than a year away from my PhD ... hire me, pretty please.😜

Loved the red rally hats when the spaceship made Mars orbit.

Great vid! Thanks! I am stunned that the U. S. STILL uses the imperial system! I vividly remember as a kid while on an interstate, seeing a brown mileage sign (usually green), that had miles and kilometers. So it was attempted. But...never saw again. Get with the rest of the world and get smart! Go metric!!!

The latest rover being dropped on mars wouldn't be if it wasn't for failures and lessons learned. Well done.

Boy it must be a special thing to get to talk to Ed Stone. Wish I could.

These kind of films are very important. And this one especially. To know how to do something great, you should learn how to fail. Just not to fail too many times :-)

I love NASA.. 🤘❤👍 I remember crying of Joy each time NASA did a landing on Mars. And today, my name is on Mars because of JPL teamwork. Thank you very much NASA. As a simple Citizen, I really appreciate that.

respect!

Imagine a documentary on the military black projects! Trillions of dollars on science unknown to the public and the advancement it would bring to all human kind.

So I'm a nurse and not a engineer but I was surprised Lockheed went with an asymmetrical design for the orbiter. I saw a documentary about Lockheed and they really stressed how important it is that your plane weighs the same on both sides. Almost makes you wonder if it was a simple design flaw and they made sure it balanced but JPL wasn't there to explain what happens when you escape gravity. Same with the mathematical error. Both sides were incredibly competent but weren't talking to. eachother.

If you think about it, costs go down when you employ standardization. Perhaps, if we go for standardization in space ships, propulsion units, air supply, water purification, and many other components of space travel, the per unit cost will drop significantly. Do not reinvent the wheel over and over again.

When you are scared of failure, you dont reach your dreams. If you are scared of chance, you never see the options..

"don't be afraid of failure". Take a note from these guys book and "Expect it".

Impressive, as an engineer I can totally relate.

I think the audio level is kept low on this video just to make the dramatic vents louder.

I was waiting (and kind of dreading) for this part of the story. I use it regularly to explain why going metric just makes sense and the US is just weird to hold out on that.

@rulingmoss5599

Жыл бұрын

soy

@codymoe4986

7 ай бұрын

The use of either measurement system would have worked just fine, had everybody involved, stuck with one specific measurement system. Quit pretending the specific use of imperial measurements was the sole reason for the mission's failure. I can just as easily say metric was the cause, if we're playing by the same rules...

@codymoe4986

7 ай бұрын

P.S. How is the US a hold out on switching to metric, when it's own space agency uses that measuring system, as evidenced by the video above?

@gabsrants

7 ай бұрын

@@codymoe4986 the fact that their society still uses imperial units is clearly the source of this whole problem. You can blame it on the contractor or quality control as much as you like, but it wouldn't have happened if the whole society went with the times and just taught metric in school.

Hi here at NASA we send incredible technology into space but when it comes to making videos on earth we can not figure out how to turn up the audio levels on our videos

Very interesting Documentary I knew about the mix up and failure What amazed me is that this was completely caused by management, but when investigating and applying fixes it is not said out loud that management, not engineers, caused this As an engineer I face this at my company (post covid) today, where every problem is due to engineers and not managements insistence on bigger faster cheaper PS: is this not the same reasons for losing both space shuttles…?

Great.

Years ago a probe was sent to mars, I believe, that landed cushioned by some massive airbags. THAT, in my opinion,was very cool. Apparently, it was inadequate in some way. Now this.

Nice mixing old with the new🙂

Crazy how smart these folk are 😮 🙏🤔

If you've ever worked for a major corporation, you know exactly where Donna Shirley 42:00 is coming from.

I tried listening to this while I napped… I got anxiety and a racing heart relieving all these problems. I remember those failures and disappointments. FBC… what a waste that could have been avoided.

There's a quote from Hamming, that "mistakes are inevitable, finding them is imperative". Everyone in engineering faces the chance of failure due to mistakes, and we're responsible to search out and prevent all of them that we can find.

Wish NASA would include the year of production in the video title - just makes it easier to know which content really is 'NEW' and which .... isn't.

If any of these people spent any time with an aerospace contractor, this "faster better cheaper" mantra coupled with a promised work force reduction would be all too familiar to them. When things start to go wrong with the new (imposed) managerial plan, they always send for people like Goldin to play the "grim reaper" to tell them they'd better get with the plan or else. A very familiar pattern.

I haven't watched the entire video, yet, but I'm sure I will. The music is a bit comical in the opening minutes; more appropriate for a 1960s video than for the late 1990s being covered. 44:20 - Hey, hey, we're the 'in-crowd'. In my fondest dreams, I'd be one of those people. 46:47 - That's not peanuts they're passing around, it's a big bottle of Tums Antacid. 1:12:29 - The blame game looks squarely at Lockheed Martin, not JPL or NASA. Units specified but not adhered to. 1:29:43 Wasn't it a little bit LATE for NASA Administrator Dan Goldin to realize the complexity of the mission? 1:35:17 Root cause, lack of funding. It's truly astounding that, with the chances that were taken, we went through the entire Project Apollo with no more casualties than the Apollo I ground test in 1967. I'm going to have to watch the rest of this JPL and the Space Age series! For anyone bored enough to have gone through my post, I'm 69 years old. I remember Project Mercury onward. I witnessed the last three Apollo launches from the Cape vicinity, as well as a couple Shuttle launches. I'm an old space fan. And, Elon Musk is a freakazoid! No reflection on SpaceX...he's not the genius behind that endeavor, just a money guy without common sense.

Goldin is an example of a leader that pushed NASA far back by decades.

Had we adopted the metric system this would have been avoided. Just one cost of an expensive mistake for the USA.

Testing a management system to destruction during zero-fail missions is ridiculous

the next time you're at a party with planetary exploration scientists, try this knock-knock joke: "Knock-knock!" "Who's there?" "Beagle-2!" "Beagle-2 who?" [first person pretends not to hear, hopefully the straight man repeats the last line a few times...] {joke so dark it got lost in the shadow of a planet}

The one thing people don't realize realize it might have been expensive but the technology that came out of that has helped every person on this planet in 1 way or another Imagine how more advanced we might be If They continue to work At it Might have come up with something to solve our energy crisis

Who knew late '90's would look like 1960's. 3:20 😄

It turns out that "NASA cannot afford failure" did not refer to budgetary worries- it referred to how failure plays out on the world stage. I'm shocked that Dan Goldin is willing to go on the record and go, "I don't care."

So it goes.

If you take no risk you risk no failure. But you gain little in the way of success. The only way to find out where the edge of the envelope really is to break it.

"Don't be afraid of failure". Sounds like he is throwing the crew against the wall to see what sticks and burn the rest. After all, he has to answer to those writing the checks. Certainly I would not have taken it at face value. I doubt they did either.

Why all the cost-cutting and austerity? There is nothing that deserves more funding than space exploration

Interesting that the craft was done in by metric and imperial measurements. So how did the craft even make to Mars?

So proud of my BS Course Aero Eng. unfortunately ended up being a 3d artist.

it seems like human are and always will be mistake makers.. We are such perfectly imperfect creatures living in a imperfectly perfect world.

I know nothing about rocket science but why did Lockheed Martin use the imperial system? I would have assumed industry standard was metric.

“Those 2 missions to Mars will be on my back , I don’t care “. Quote from JBL and NASA Private industry should be monitoring government agencies not the other way around. Huge cost overruns , long delays and I don’t care pretty much sums it up along with no one can be fired . Wow !

Failure today, is necessary for finding solutions to future problems.

@jamiboothe

Жыл бұрын

Also, when you have an idea, find at least one person to challenge that idea. The more challenges the better.

Goldin in 1992 on time and budgets: "There's a sense of "all we have to do is get it working and launch it and all is forgiven" - Hopeless. That will never. occur. again". JWST would like a word!

JPL.. town hall meetings..SNL ..open access to the press..director like a regular guy?? How do I sign up? Plus it’s close to home..where do I send my app?

Read: Managing Martians by Donna Shirley, NASA Ret. The Boss! May God Bless and Protect! J.C.

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It's like anything in science and engineering when you push the limits...... Mistakes happen. It's how you deal with the mistakes going into the future that will define how we are remembered. Using Hydrogen as a fuel for the SLS mainly because of a government mandate as a example.

Didn't realize Dan Goldin talked like the mafia & looked like Zoran.

These people never got out of college it’s appears to be identical . Does any company know what a budget is ? Job security is top priority it seems. Maybe exposing them to private industry where productivity is also important, all I know is I wouldn’t ever want to be a stockholder . Alotta rah, rah ,rah going on like in school

The metric/English issue raised it's head with impacts.... I was trained in 2012 as an aerospace assembly mechanic... all units were English system that is a standard of American airplane building... not the PC metric system that many other disciplines have adopted... Lockheed Martin, Boeing and so on build aircraft, the standard in aircraft parts is uniform to measurement system for safety and compatibility... it is interesting that my 1969 F250 and my 1980 Honda civic have interchangeable parts... same fuses, same headlights, same windshield wipers and so on... wouldn't even expect that in modern cats and trucks... A cultural measurement difference cost NASA/JPL big time.... but by finding out about reason for failure... it becomes a cautionary tale...

@PBeringer

Жыл бұрын

It's funny how the US was one of the original signatories of the Treaty of the Metre - an agreement to use the metric system - yet persists with a cumbersome and clunky, antiquated system for solely political reasons from the Revolutionary War. It's probably time to move on ... ;)

@michaelclark5626

3 ай бұрын

The Colorado Department of Transportation tried the Metric System for a short time, then went back to feet, inches, Yards, and Miles, lbs, tons, psi, etc. The number of errors related to conversions was excessive.

Everyone should be required to to put sometime in private industry to break that atmosphere of graduating from college and going into the exact same atmosphere in government industry. Comfort zone of huge costs overruns and no one held accountable doesn’t exist in private industry . Everyone held accountable or heads roll in private business

They should be getting better at this NOT WORSE !!!

Subtitle: The Dibertification of NASA or Corporate Yes Men Destroy Everything

@liquidluck711

Жыл бұрын

NASA = NAHHSSEE FROM OPERATION PAPERCLIP. WE HAVE NEVER BENBEN TO MARS WE HAVE BENBEN TO THE MOON ONLY ONCE USING STOLEN ALIEN TECH WE KNOW ABOUT THE BENBEN STONE AND THE MOON SHOT TRAP. YOU PEOPLE ARE PURE EVIL INCARNATE !!

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Along came SLS...