To anyone wanting to read this book: this book is a little heavy. And its best paced out. Take a few days between each chapter and let it set in. I am a pre med student and spend a lot of time reading and I can say that I had to reread paragraphs at times. It's a fun little challenge

@moacir8663

4 жыл бұрын

Hi! When you say that's heavy, do you mean it is full of difficult ideas? I meant hard to understand his ideas and concepts.

@nausheenali6138

4 жыл бұрын

Moacir yes difficult ideas and concepts but also very long. I started it last year and stopped reading because I got busy and lazy. Now that I’m in quarantine I M reading one-two chapters a day.

@ilqar887

4 жыл бұрын

Is it easy read? I mean English is not my native language..will I get it if I read it?

@danhiggins9151

4 жыл бұрын

@@ilqar887 He rambles a whole lot and is super unfocused but he keeps the language very basic and accessible.

@ilqar887

4 жыл бұрын

@@danhiggins9151 he should ramble it's and encouragement book ..and focused to brouder audience that's why it's a simple language

As I write this comment, I am at Rule 10 of the book. His perspectives are indeed very interesting and his ability to grab ideas from different fields of study and funnel them into a single idea is amazing. Yes, some parts of the book are super complicated, but it's awesome once you get it. I may not agree with everything he says, but if I am going to write a book, I would love to write like him.

@zoilo87

3 жыл бұрын

Ugh its very long haha

I personally don't find the book superfluous at all, I would have not enjoyed the book if Jordan had just sated his 12 rules. When he goes off on tangents and really explains the importance of each rule, and the evidence supporting the pragmatic usefulness of each rule this for me really gives the rules more weight and purpose and motivates me to do them. Also this is just a side note about Maps of Meaning because I've read that book. If you've found 12 rules to be too dense and complicated I would recommend you don't read Maps of Meaning because that book is incredibly complicated and dense, I mean its literally a psychology textbook given to college/university students. I personally have never read a book more complicated than Maps of Meaning. But if you found 12 rules to be a walk in the park then go and read Maps of Meaning.

@TroyanMarshall

4 жыл бұрын

Well said, I agree.

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

I just ordered Maps of Meaning. Will be going through it bit by bit :)

@ash0143

3 жыл бұрын

Definitely agree that the stories make his rules understandable and sensible

@quimoniz

3 жыл бұрын

I should have read your comment before making the mistake of getting Maps of Meaning 🤣 It's DENSE

@muhammadnasif1496

3 жыл бұрын

@@quimoniz lol I bought Maps of Meaning and start reading a few pages, felt like I need to read it really slowly. I end up give it as a present to a friend who is more into reading than I am haha. Just bought 12 rules to see if this one is easier to read.

Jordan Peterson can sometimes ramble in his books. He uses long-winded examples to clarify points. This is fine but sometimes his long-winded examples are followed by more long-winded examples. It can be a long read but it is well worth it.

Y'all complaining about JP's book being dense, try reading Nietzche 😂

@theananyatalkstat5210

3 жыл бұрын

Same😂😂

@johnmcelroy5804

3 жыл бұрын

Or even his other book, maps of meaning. 12 rules is derived from that and simplified substantially.

¿Why do you keep your books in reverse? I'm scared...

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

SORCERY. :P I made a video on it awhile ago if you're curious

@comicsarethebest8626

3 жыл бұрын

@Death Embrace ikr

I liked this a lot!! Such a refreshing review to listen too, I also like your bookcase background.

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

I am only just seeing this comment, which is a travesty-because it so nice! Thank you!!!

@brianruebelmann9414

3 жыл бұрын

All the books are faced the wrong way

My god .. you gave me such a supperior book report .. i m hitting miself for not expecting that .. thankyou thankyou i wish you all the best you are a prime example off actually what mr peterson is standing for !!! .. creating educating expressing yourself as refined as possible

Thanks for the review. I have to ask though, why are your books backwards? Is it backwards if you read it or...?

@armandomartinez2291

3 жыл бұрын

I don't know her reason but maybe its because she doesn't want to advertise the books by showing the titles.

@mohak1990y

3 жыл бұрын

@@armandomartinez2291 she is so beautiful that's why

The references to the religious references is not to turn you into a Christian. Is to validate that his rules are an amalgamation of learnings and things our ancestors figured out over thousands years and not something that a god figure wrote dictating it to apostles. And completely ignoring these teachings because you are not religious is a mistake.

@outofthebex

5 жыл бұрын

AeroPR lol as i said in the video, I understand why they’re used and agree that they’re helpful. What I said was that the nearly sole use of christian religion examples was excessive. But you know, you do you.

I have found Jordan Peterson to be a very smart man, almost too smart, and I often found myself wandering as I would listen to his lectures in the past....however, during Covid, when my therapist no longer was working and I desperately needed help, I began watching his Biblical series and honestly, it helped me so much. I am actually chocking up as I'm writing this because I was just so profoundly moved and changed as I went through that series...and the whole lockdown thing was so stressful, no mental health services were really available, etc etc. I am a believer, but even if you aren't, try the Biblical series...Jordan speaks of the stories in the Bible, but most of what he talks about is life and how to get through it.... and if you are interested in the Bible but find things confusing about it(who doesn't), he connects some dots and I found it all just so fascinating. Actually when you talked about each chapter in his book being a journey, and the many paths that one can take(and does take with JP at the helm), that's SUCH a great point...this is exactly what he does in the Biblical series and that's perhaps why it was kind of challenging in the beginning to follow. The heading of each lecture is taken from a Biblical story, but it's so much more(that's an understatement!). He has often said that the Biblical series was a great challenge because he was learning as he was lecturing...he'd have an outline, but as you watch him, you see him work things out in his own mind and then try his best to convey that to his audience. If one can just let go and enjoy the ride(with all it's twists and turns), you'll be changed by the end. It's a metaphor for life, in a way. He is a national treasure, for sure. I don't have this book and I keep wondering if I should get it. I keep putting it off...maybe it's that I prefer listening/watching him...watching his body language, listening to him get emotional at times(very moving!), hearing his inflection, hearing him laugh and joke etc. Thank you for giving your honest thoughts about his book...I found this video very helpful.

@nonakind

3 жыл бұрын

He is an audio version of it. Hope this helps. Sometimes we prefer to listen rather than read 😊

@iconocast

2 жыл бұрын

dont worries u are not alone even the church has started to take notice

This book gives people 12 unforgettable rules. It helps a lot!

Hmm, I don't know how familiar you are with JP but this book is like the cliff notes version of his other work "Maps of Meaning" (I haven't read it, I hear it's way tougher than 12 rules). It's like his entire life's work. I believe his intention was to try to scientifically obtain meaning. In addition to psychological studies, religious texts (he uses daoism a lot too) are heavily used along with other archetypal stories as you've pointed out. He's used the Lion King, beauty and the beast, sleeping beauty, Peter pan, pinnochio, sometimes other stories like Dante's inferno. To put it another way, he saw a society becoming increasingly nihilistic because meaning had been robbed from it with the constant rhetoric that "God is dead," and he was attempting to tether the gap between the morality/wisdom of the ancient teachings (because that's what got us here) and our modernity without affirming the supernatural. Now I don't think he succeeded but that's another discussion.

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

I just ordered Maps of Meaning. I plan to read it bit by bit.

@bradspitt3896

3 жыл бұрын

@@outofthebex 11 months ago ha. I guess he left an impression. I never read MOM. If you're curious about Jordan Peterson you may like Jonathan Pageau. He has a lot of stuff on storytelling. I find him more useful. I like Jordan but I don't think he digs into metaphysical things enough. He tends to stick to psychology but I do like his attention to "Logos."

@jaytee3baxter

Жыл бұрын

Where is the constant rhetoric that "God is dead"? You could go years without hearing or reading that (I have), but you can't go a day without hearing or reading references to God. That's fine, I'm just pointing out that believers can be too quick to think everyone is against them even if they only occasionally come across a different viewpoint.

@bradspitt3896

Жыл бұрын

@@jaytee3baxter Every time someone says "my truth."

can someone provide the time stamp for each chapter ? I have had some difficulty with the audio (not being much of a reader) but you have made me feel better about that. I have been getting lost and hoping that knowing the beginning and end to each chapter might help

What is bex? Love your work. Just that it would be really interesting to see your book collection.

Check out the full summary for 12 Rules for Life on my channel!

Thanks for the review :) really enjoy the discussion around one of my biggest role models on earth.

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it! I am reading his Maps of Meaning textbook from 1999 and really enjoying it!

love your content thank you

Nice review, I think this was enough to push me into buying it. Thanks :)

I can relate to that. A lot of times I felt that a significant portion of a rule was irrelevant or unrelated to its core.

I think that for one to get a really full and rich experience of JP's thought processes, an IQ of, say, 130 or more is necessary. He does tend to get a lot of balls in the air all at once and may keep them there for quite a while before bringing them back down to resolve them. I can totally relate to his desire to not just throw the rules out there with out laying the foundation for and path to those rules. It didn't start with the rules, like a flower doesn't start with a blossom, but a seed and the blossom is the finale. The rules are the conclusions to thought processes.

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for your thoughtful comment :) Have you read his textbook, Maps of Meaning? I'm giving it a go now and to say it's complex would be... an understatement. Enjoying every sentence though!

@midi510

3 жыл бұрын

@@outofthebex No, but I'm a weirdo and love mental gymnastics. The more difficult something is to understand, the more I'm drawn to it and compelled to figure it out, as long as it's a subject I'm interested in. When I was about 21, I read a book called "The Origins of Consciousness in the Breakdown of the Bicameral Mind". It's probably the most tedious and dry book I've ever read, but was quite interesting. For shear length, "The Urantia Book" was the most difficult one to get through.

is the book still good for someone who just wants to feed their mind something besides video games ?

I plan to read it

I love the content of the book and his points summarised at the end of each chapter but i had to give up half way through because its a tough read. Instead, watching his lectures about the rules on KZread make it far more simplistic to understand.

Why are all the books on the shelf backwards?

This is a very good review. Thank you!

@outofthebex

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I recommend a physical copy so you can reread some pages/ paragraphs because you can clarify more or some words which are very hard for non native speakers or noob readers

Great video. I totally agree with your description thus far. I haven't finished it yet but I just got through rule 7 and it was an uphill marathon through Sunday school. 👍

@outofthebex

5 жыл бұрын

It will pick up a little bit towards the end! I know it's not an easy read to get through. I listened to it on audio and even then sometimes I didn't know if I would make it. Still, I think a lot of his insights are absolutely fascinating. I just wish we had turned this one book into three books, each with different focuses. Thanks so so much for having a watch and leaving a comment! I appreciate it!

I read it.. i enjoyed it. Agreed it a disservice to call it ‘self help’... but i love that it IS different than other self-help books. I think that’s the beauty of it... you can read others for that.

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

Josh Weatherly hey Josh! Sorry it took me so long to reply. YT keeps not showing me all my comments so I stumble across many of them way later. Apologies! Just wanted to say that I really appreciated your statement here. That is very true! Peterson goes his own way in everything, which is something I really respect him for. Also, I would rather have a nonfiction be a tad overwritten and detailed than I would have it full of “fluff”

So, I set it out as my new year’s resolution to read a book a month. I decided to start with this one, as I actually had it. I haven’t read a book in years, and this one as a first book as pretty heavy. Take into consideration that I had to force myself to get used to getting infomartion at a slower pace, as opposed to youtube, etc. which I have been really absuing lately. This really was a test. I don’t think it would have been an issue if it wasn’t my first book, but the 4-5th, when I am already used to reading. His ramblings didn’t help. There were times when I was like, just get to the point man. With all of that said, I can see several people benefiting a lot more from this book, as I have really managed to put my life in order before starting the book and had pretty similar views on some topics. With all of this, I don’t want to disregard the importance of this book if you feel like your life is a bit of a mess. I also summarised the chapters in a notebook after finishing each chapter, this way I would remember the core ideas much better and I feel that it worked like a charm.

I did plan to read the book and do a book review video by my own language. Is a good book but this one is hard and too much going on.

THANK YOU

I agree

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks!!

I just finished this book and yes I agree that it's really deep and at times superfluous. But his perspectives were really interesting.

An excellent and balanced review

Highly respectable

Absolutely love Jordan Peterson. Loved the book, gotta get his first: Maps of Meaning

@nealandersen4867

3 жыл бұрын

you probably know it much more 'challenging'

Thank you

This review like the book is also superfluous, but it's nothing wrong with that.

I guess an honest review must contain the way the book changes you, and how you transformed from who you were and what you became after reading this book.

The book didn’t make me tired at all, but it’s best read taking time between the chapters. I thought it made a lot of sense comprehensively.

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

I'm happy you enjoyed it :)

Why are all your books ( on the shelves) backwards? Good review by the way, I loved this book, and Dr. Peterson's meanderings.

@drewviz5102

4 жыл бұрын

Because every book is worth reading

@DaceDzn

4 жыл бұрын

@@drewviz5102 So if books arent put on backwards they're not worth reading?

@drewviz5102

4 жыл бұрын

@@DaceDzn straw man fallacy

@DaceDzn

4 жыл бұрын

@@drewviz5102 You posted a comment on Jon's question, it's not weird to think that was supposed to be an answer. It's also an answer I didn't understand in the context of the question. I reflected my interpretation of your answer back to you so you could confirm whether or not I understood correctly. Do carry on explaining what you were trying to communicate to the world.

@ashesh8085

4 жыл бұрын

@@DaceDzn Man he got you but he seems like a jackass i would also want to know what's the deal with the books being backwards he didn't even properly answer the question.

Im 27 years old and this is the first book I can read till the end, just a little bit weird because I began with knowing nothing about …Carl Jung , Sigmund Freud , Dostoyevsky, Oedipus complex ,Pinocchio, Peter pan , Pareto distribution, Price’s law, Competent hierarchy ,Cain and Abel, Gold and Dragon , etc… Actually I watched almost of his video on youtube with in 5 months and its change my life forever.

@outofthebex

2 жыл бұрын

He has had an incredible impact on me as well. Glad to meet a fellow Peterson fan! :)

Here I am a year after filming this video and I am really starting to wonder if I should read Jordan Peterson’s other book, Maps of Meaning... what do you think? EDIT: I bought it. It arrived. I'm reading it. Here goes! ...I will be sharing my thoughts and some basic summaries as I go: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fqBso6uMj5Wfd7w.html

@Oli4laPorte

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, would love to hear your review! Doubting myself if should read it.

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

Olivier la Porte i ordered it! Takes forever to get here. But I’m thinking of posting my thoughts as I go along instead of just one review deal, since it’s such a big book

@Oli4laPorte

3 жыл бұрын

outofthebex Sounds great, looking forward to hearing your take on it!

@fahadqureshi834

3 жыл бұрын

Thankyou. Plz do.

@dixienormous2355

3 жыл бұрын

That book is so dense it’s unbelievable. Good luck if you do

I am curious to know why her books on the book shelves faced primarily backwards?

@ETrevizu

2 жыл бұрын

I see they books are face down with spine on too. I get it.

I found Jordan's book an easy read.... as opposed to what is said here. It actually felt like having a conversation with Jordan. I love this man, he has saved my life. Challenging reading? hard to read? I wholeheartedly disagree. It's an easy read and it's light in an ocean of darkness.

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

I'm so glad you enjoyed it :) I'm reading his Maps of Meaning textbook now

100% agree that the book is superfluous to me. I felt a lot of the concepts got dumbed down or over simplified to accomadate to a more general audience. He skimps past subjects way too quickly and doesn't support his thesis for each rule quite enough for you to be fully convinced. His videos are more entertaining in how he can explain one topic for 1-2 hours. If you've ever taken university courses in English and psychology, the reading is a lot more difficult and interesting to read. You need to read it over multiple times to understand the psychoanalysis concepts being introduced. And this Peterson book is more like self help where it simplifies the concepts to be introduced and not fully explored. I don't understand why so many people in comment section think this book is hard to read. It's honestly meant for babies. It's like psychology's version of Harry Potter. A grade schooler can read it. At the end of the day, Books are targeted towards a mass market and can't be written like an academic paper that bores everyone who isn't a psychology or English major. I just expected more.

Superfluous is the absolute best way to describe this vague, rambling that he’s compiled together in a paperback. He is a very smart man however, he’s so vague and speaks in anecdote it’s hard to extract anything useful from this 12 rules for life. All I took from this book is that everything is complicated and to speak and listen.

Hey there, I just thought your videos would benefit greatly if you'd improve audio recording (e.g. get a good 200 USD microphone and put it near your mouth). I just tried watching the review on my TV and I noticed I had a hard time understanding what you were saying, as there was quite a lot echo from the room you were sitting in (i.e. sound waves from your own voice). I also noticed that issue in your latest video. If a 200 USD mic is too expensive for your current recording budget, give me a shout out, I know a thing or two about sound recording from having worked in that business in the past. Kind regards, Quimoniz

I loved your review. Btw you have beautiful hair.

Interesting being raised Presbyterian, and not knowing what I was getting myself into, as I do with a lot of my self eduction reading. But once I start reading I commit myself to finish each and every book I own. I am interested in the reason for only showing the thickness of the books on your book shelves behind you in the video? I will suggest some light reading "Playing for Real' a text on Game Theory by: Ken Binmore.

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

Interesting! Yes, this was a marathon of a book. Had some great points though! I kept my books flipped just as preference, I have a video on that too. But we have since moved and they are flipped back the regular way now :)

The book is very good. I find it important to take a moment for the chapters, paragraphs, or even sentences! Peterson is a man of words- and words matter. This book is meant to be a slower read. It's meant to have you stop and think about what you just read. It's heavy but it's purposely done. It's not like a lot of normal self help books and I appreciate his ability to allow me to think about what I just read and processing it. I would re-read it again. This book is one I will keep on my shelf as it holds a lot of helpful facts, examples, perspectives, and guidance to cherish for years; sometimes we all need a little reminder. My opinion though 😊

I WILL GET THE BOOK

Your books are facing other way, its curious, the reasoning behind that decision. Great video.

Do you got a Goodreads account?

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

fady Alfons sure do! the name is the same there: Out of the Bex

So so so apt.

@outofthebex

5 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

I guess If you have watched his "maps of meaning" lecture series, 12 rules shouldn't be a problem for you.. Of course reading the book won't be a walk in the park but it should be fairly easy..

Watch JP's video instead, you'll get more insights there.

❤️

This is not "A Book Review" but seems more like a "Book Quality Review". Wish there was more elaboration on the actual concepts in the book rather than how difficult of a read the book was.

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! Generally, I prefer to leave the content up to the reader. That's probably because I review so much fiction and hate giving spoilers, so the quality aspect is habit for me. Still, I appreciate your comment and I will definitely think about your words next time I review a nonfiction! Thanks!

GOOD YUOR HONEST

In this review, you should have gone through the rules one by one with a one liner.

Good work

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Complex,fun,roller-coaster read,sometimes irrelevant, main point is sometimes found,I guess JBP is too smart for me.

It’s confusing to me that someone who has heard him speak expected something different from his book. The way we speak correlates to the way we write and think. I feel like everything you explained is everything you should have expected 🤣. Of course he’s going to bring up the Bible. He brings up biblical history, values or stories at least once in every recorded conversation of his that I’ve ever heard. 😆

Your bookshelf is interesting

Best review.. I read halfway through the book and his ideas like dominance heirarchy and normalizing the inequalities by giving a natural flavour sounded quite cliche and unjust justification. It definitely is for conservative audiences but if you're aware of some of his bright conversations in like pangburn debates unlike the petty interviews where he talks shit, do check this out. Its worth it.

@socialanthropologist2033

3 жыл бұрын

Somebody just deleted a reply. Okay take your time.

@socialanthropologist2033

3 жыл бұрын

The term liberal is so overused. You're not a liberal if you think all the oppression women faced to even gain the right to vote was natural! Its just like ignoring the gender gap we have till date and cherry picking some women's name who reached the top to justify the gap. Peterson is definitely an intellectual but not everything he says is right.

Thanks for the review @outofthebox i do review too of the books, and , i totally agree with all what you have mentioned ; great author ; but, not that good of a book

2:01 what did you actually mean when you mentioned Jordan Peterson being a superfluous speaker?

How come you face your books in like that on the shelves?

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

This video answers it! kzread.info/dash/bejne/oq2K0puics_VhM4.html

why are all your books faced spline inward it's killing me 😂

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

ryan grainger lol!!! I made a video about it awhile ago if you’re curious 🤣 we have since moved so they’re back to normal, but completely out of order 😅

Buzzfeed had an article about which way you place books in a bookshelf and they had the nerve to claim 87% of readers call it an abomination when you place them spine in. How absurd. Nice video by the way. With the release of Jordan's second book, I thought it would be a good time to read the first. I enjoyed your review.

You should have a dark background in my 🤔opinion. It’s too bright!!🍀it’ll help your videos be more visually peaceful and appealing as far as I can tell. 🍀

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you!!!! I really appreciate feedback. Hopefully I have fixed this in more recent videos. Feel free to let me know.

I felt the same way. So many good ideas but he overextends his explanations and beats the point to a pulp. Sometimes spending multiple pages just describing a simple concept that everyone can relate to anyways.

Unpopular opinion: these 12 rules are kind of shallow in term of antidote to chaos

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

I agree the title is a bit bigger than the material. But it's got to sell, right? I think it still fits

Have you got you Sips By box yet? ☕😊

@outofthebex

5 жыл бұрын

Hey!!!!! How are you and the chickens?! I decided to pause my subscription for this month because i'm SO busy wedding planning! I'm getting married at the end of the month :D

I think i love you

Great content and goal. Could’ve been shorter and a tad more readable.

Review rather rambling, repetitive and circular

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

Loraine Macdonald i agree

0:22 😐🥰

If you are not familiar with Bible or religious stories, you will either be confused or or become familiar

2:00 : "he is a superfluous writer/speaker" ? I think you meant "supreme" .

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

madeline morphy superfluous is a style, not necessarily a criticism. Some people appreciate it 🤷‍♀️ some don’t! Good to know this about his style if you are trying to decide to buy the book or not

@madelinemorphy1101

4 жыл бұрын

@@outofthebex OK , good to know. thanks.

@madelinemorphy1101

4 жыл бұрын

@@outofthebex 13:50 : OK here is another one. Sorry, I don't mean to be annoying or anything , just you know....." he is a very learned person" . "learned" pronounced the same way as the verb, though it's the adjective .

I also find it bit heavy, god definitely not a recommended book for Sunday Morning

@outofthebex

2 жыл бұрын

Well, maybe after a nice cup of coffee :)

Personally I found the book quite helpful and an eye opener. Yes he has taken a lot from the bible but that's alright, because whether you are a Christian or not you must be having something you believe in. This is his book and if you feel a push you can write your version and we will love to read your version. Respect his work. Hope to read your book soon.

That’s funny - you watched hours of his lectures and were surprised by the amount of Bible references? :D How is that even possible? Also, I don’t fully agree with how you say that Peterson uses stories and the Bible to explain concepts... it’s more like this: in his view, these stories and also parts of the Bible aren’t nice metaphors as much as genuine explanations of how the human psyche works which have been pretty much involuntarily produced by humans (who weren’t even necessarily aware of what they were actually writing). In that sense: no, he doesn’t use the Bible because he is speaking to a Western audience that has been strongly influenced by the Bible. He references it because he is convinced it teaches us about humans, period. No matter the cultural context that any given person comes from. Same thing goes for his views of order and chaos, referencing yin & yang which obviously isn’t Western at all. Also: you think he should write a more in-depth book where he really goes off the deep end? He’s done that! It’s called "Maps of Meaning!"

What nonsense are u reading that u feel the need to flip them.

Why are your books the wrong way round ?

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

My video answer :) -----> kzread.info/dash/bejne/oq2K0puics_VhM4.html

great review, seriously best review ive seen of this book. i finished it recently and agree with your assessment. I'd like to ask why you're not a Christian? in full disclosure, i am a christian, and i find your videos interesting and my impression of you is that you're well educated, so thus my curiosity.

@outofthebex

5 жыл бұрын

Hi Joseph! Great to meet you! Thanks so much. I'm really glad you liked my review video! That means a great deal. As far as your Christianity question... We would need a full on discussion to cover it all! Haha! But I will just say that I believe we use religion to connect with belief in something greater than ourselves and to better ourselves through its messages. There are plenty of things I like about Christianity, but it just doesn't connect with me as an individual. Additionally, there is just as much as what I like about it as what I question. I was certainly glad to be raised the way I was and, at one point, I was extremely dedicated to its tenants. I find different practices absolutely fascinating and I'm always curious to hear different methods and beliefs by which individuals feel closer to the mystifying presences which exist beyond us.

@josephcargyle3681

5 жыл бұрын

I attend a baptist church, i have found that Calvinism best expounds the bible, so you can consider me Baptist or Calvinist, i personally just identify with whatever the bible says, so Christian or Disciple of Christ if our aim is to be specific and simple. i am very fond of Presbyterians, R.C. Sproul was amazing. ;) I agree with the sentiment in the first part of your reply, " i believe we use religion to connect with belief in something greater than ourselves" the way i have expressed this is that we have no ability on our own to understand or explain God. So unless he reveals himself to us, we can not know anything about him. How do you explain color to a blind person? and so, for several reasons, i chose to believe the bible. And i would love to have the full on discussion with you on why it doesn't work for you. is it a logical problem? philosophical? textual criticism? historical issue? contemporary practice criticism? i find it frustrating when intellectual, smart, well educated people like you and Dr.Peterson conclude for some reason that the bible isn't true. i sure hope to hear back from you.

@gmy33

5 жыл бұрын

@@josephcargyle3681 because it isnt true .. and smart people understand that doesnt matter .. if it matters too you i think you still have ways to go and learn .. and yes so have i .. lts not an coincidense smart people think alike about religion.. and other people use religion for power over others or as a save heaven .. all very understandeble ... please never talk about truth .. and you spirit will be free to grow and fly and you joyfully will lift others .. peace to you ..

@psioniccrusher6190

4 жыл бұрын

gmy33 well that’s about as passive/aggressive/troll as it comes!

Your review sounds like his book

Try this #theoldpath

I regret purchasing this book it is very long and complex haha.

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

Have you tried in on audio? Sometimes that helps me with more complex reads!

To evryone who want the book : securebookseller.gumroad.com/l/byHFw

New gen...the book wasn't what I wanted😭 and I had to dig😭. There is a lot of learning, history, biology etc along the way. But lets just shrink it down to a text message. Not meandering...there is meat in it all. Hes not Deepak. Wtf.

The people who disliked are in hell as Peterson would describe

Yes. You're my girl. 😊👍

I enjoy all of Petersons content online but don’t see myself purchasing his book because of the heavy amount of biblical references I keep hearing about from reviews. I’m hoping the sequel to this book doesn’t follow the same path. :)

@charlesparsons7862

3 жыл бұрын

He doesn't bible thump. He views the bible the same way most Jewish people view the Torah. Mostly as an allegory to explain the human condition before we had science. He references Daoism almost as much or if not more than the Bible. He even explains how the Bible's creation stories draw off of many different cultures which explains the two different accounts in Genesis.

WHY ARE THE BOOKS BACKWARDS?!!!!!!!!!!!!

@outofthebex

3 жыл бұрын

EVILNESS. :P Haha! Honestly this is my most asked question, I had to make a video on it XD

Contrast will be better to view ur video...ur skeen color and background colors are so same it is difficult to concentrate on ur face...

@outofthebex

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback! I think of fixed this on newer videos, but would appreciate your feedback there too to see if it's better!

Thank you so much. This was exactly the kind of intelligent and nuanced review I was looking for. I just came from a couple of weeks discovering Jordan from YT videos and couldn't make up what to think of him. What eventually led me here was watching this very interesting interview with him by Russel Brand, and I wanted to know what this book of his is all about: kzread.info/dash/bejne/nYBqk9uKl8e9lbA.html I'm not an ateist but kind of "allergic" to organized religion. After viewing this I don't think I will be reading this book because of the heavy centre around Christianity - too narrow a narrative about the human existence for me. Do you think I'm missing out not reading the book based on that perception? Anyway, I really enjoyed your video and am really glad I found your channel. You just got yourself a new subscriber :-)

@outofthebex

5 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for sharing his interview with Russell Brand! I hadn't seen it yet and I do appreciate the link :) I think you could get a comparative amount of his insights solely from watching his lectures and interviews published here on KZread. I still watch them on occasion! His recorded lectures do a much better job of using broader archetypes from a variety of myths, plays, and lore. For some reason he focused so much on Christianity in the book. I don't think you'll be missing out too much by just watching his published videos here on YT instead. I'm so happy you liked this video! It really means the world to me. I hope you'll enjoy the rest. I'd love to chat with you in the comments section again sometime!

@definitelynotobama6851

4 жыл бұрын

skemsen there's a heavy center around Christianity because that's the religious base of Western society. Just like you have to be familiar with at least the major themes and stories of the Bible and Hellenistic mythology to understand good English literature, those ideas that formed Western Civilization often came from religion, Christianity specifically. Similarly, you would be a fool to try to understand the deeper meaning behind The Art of War or Journey to the West without at least a fair understanding of Chinese Buddhism and Confucianism. If Peterson was writing from an Eastern perspective to an Eastern audience, he would perhaps have used more reference to the ideas of Taoism or Buddhism. But as he was writing in English to a Western audience, I think it's very appropriate for him to refer to ideas from the Western religious tradition.

Oh how much the guy has fallen...