Watch the full episode here - kzread.info/dash/bejne/npWHrZmJqMuWj5s.html

@brazenlilhussy5975

2 жыл бұрын

Chris there's a chick looking for ya under here..I'm pretty sure it's not a bot!

@mosesking2923

2 жыл бұрын

Its a cute soundbite from Peterson but false nonetheless. Men need brains WITH brawns. Unfortunately, too many men are porn addicted morons who focus on videogames but not personal development. Men need to learn how to read, go to the gym, focus on financial literacy, boost their resumes, and develop actual interests beyond their Call of Duty kill ratio. Ambition without wisdom gets you nowhere.

@paulbucklebuckle4921

2 жыл бұрын

@@mosesking2923 yes that's Jordan Peterson's message isn't it ?

@MrWinstonSmithR101a

2 жыл бұрын

Chris. When you censor men you do not come out the winner. You merely prove you are vastly inferior intellectually. JP supports censorship. And it would appear, so do you.

@MrWinstonSmithR101a

2 жыл бұрын

@The Tyro of Toriyama Which comment are you talking about? If you mean the one where the man burned his ex and three children to death I stand by that comment. It seems to be gone..

I like how JP means "More dangerous" as in intellectually sharp, competent, deliberate, astute, articulate, and driven- Not swol, big, intimidating, and buffoonish.

@crossbearer6453

2 жыл бұрын

Physical capability is also part

@josephllinas2672

2 жыл бұрын

He means both.

@josephllinas2672

2 жыл бұрын

Not buffoonish or swol but physically capable. Like a Bruce Lee esc type. Wise and strong.

@johnnywalker4897

2 жыл бұрын

This world is already dangerous enough. This goofball has an opinion on everything

@lightgrey5365

2 жыл бұрын

yes. a man who is powerful because he has integrated his anima too.

I always found C. S. Lewis' description of Aslan to be a good template of masculinity. In his first book of chronicles of Narnia the beavers are talking to the children about aslan and the children ask if he is safe, and Mr Beaver replies no but he is Good. That has stuck with me for a long time as I think this is important for being a dangerous man, Being Good.

@batmanoreo8666

2 жыл бұрын

Beautiful example

@misdangered4326

2 жыл бұрын

Good example. That took me all the way back to when I was read that as a child, and I remember that was how I interpreted it at the time.

@IceKuv

2 жыл бұрын

"I don't give a fuck what you think Jerry" -Rick Sanchez.

@guitarman0365

2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely otherwise you are just harmless or cowardly but it has no bearing on your moral compass. To have the capacity to do harm but keep your sword sheathed until no other option presents itself is the best person to be.

@wickedenkia

2 жыл бұрын

I remember that scene! Being just as scared, and then relieved when reassured that he is good 😊

For me, the ideal masculinity is perfectly described in the work of The Lord of the Rings, especially in the characters Aragorn, Theoden and Faramir, brave and courageous men, great warriors, but they used violence only when necessary

@snubbles9991

2 жыл бұрын

Don't forget Boromir

@GudieveNing

2 жыл бұрын

Interesting.

@timbenway2536

2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you 100% friend!!! Unfortunately we live in a world where that type of behavior is seen to be weird or out of place because its become such a rarity to see that kind of behavior. It doesn't mean not to. It simply means that you have to be ready to stand out. Be true to yourself.

@Valentina-eh5zf

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrWinstonSmithR101a What did you call me? “Femfail”? I don’t understand the mgtow dialect

@Elizabeth-kn4jh

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrWinstonSmithR101a hahahaha, you use the word ‘femfail’ seriously? What about the original comment do you disagree with?

"Nothing makes you more formidable than verbal competence." I can't get that line out of my head. This entire videos is fabulous. JP is so insightful and brilliant. He just draws you in and you want to listen to him. He seemingly built really, the entire 10 minutes around that one line I quoted above. Definitely need to watch the entire interview.👍

@rosalind1635

2 жыл бұрын

That's the way of Jordan Peterson. He hides a very simple message in a mountain of sophistry and intellectualized fluff. Whole video coulda been replaced by a "inspirational quote" picture.

@nakama6156

2 жыл бұрын

that might be because you're on the same level of comprehension with him. to me, i find some stuff interesting and insightful but others seem to be boring jargons. maybe because of semantic barriers and lower level of comprehension.

@lukepoling7050

2 жыл бұрын

@@rosalind1635 I have always found Jordan Peterson, despite being highly educated and well spoken, to be quite pretentious and kind of pompous in a way.

@zorz7730

2 жыл бұрын

Really you think words will save you if someone decides to break your neck

@PeachT87

2 жыл бұрын

I feel like that's exactly why idiots flock to him en masse.

Anger is a tricky beast. It makes you feel good. If you don't have it under control then it has you under it's control.

@tomwright9904

2 жыл бұрын

No. It doesn't make us feel good. This is the boring controlling therapy line. Maybe for some people.

@Primal_Primat3

2 жыл бұрын

Anger is like fire, a great tool and a deadly master.

@itzybitzyspyder

2 жыл бұрын

@@tomwright9904 it does feel good. Maybe not after you make a stupid decision out of anger, but it gives me focus and drive.

@marcikrauss5588

2 жыл бұрын

I always have to remind myself to that. Thank you the reinforcement.

@katpage9378

2 жыл бұрын

@@itzybitzyspyder To me the feeling of anger itself doesn’t feel good, but letting myself express it or put it into an action rather than bottling it up or brushing it away does. Anger is a bad feeling, but doing something to express it, for example yelling or punching something is the part that feels good. Even if it’s letting yourself take that anger and put it into mere thoughts feels good and is a way to express it within yourself. You just have to be careful because if you take these thoughts or actions too far it can become a serious habit and cause damage.

Maybe not even dangerous, but willing to go all the way when threatened, rather than trying to negotiate because they are afraid....

@tuskular

2 жыл бұрын

Its not about violence its about the confidence that comes with the capability of being aggressive. Dangerous can be someone that is confident and doesn't tremble when speaking in front of hundreds of people, Negotiating is the entire point of the video having strong verbal capabilities/ "Verbal Prowess", being able to speaking confidently when threatened is most definitely not being "afraid".

@carlstigaxel

2 жыл бұрын

Saying "all the way" makes you seem like a fool willing to kill people

@Primal_Primat3

2 жыл бұрын

If you arnt willing to die, then you aint realy alive.

@carlstigaxel

2 жыл бұрын

Life is not a movie.

@Dmen-gy6bz

2 жыл бұрын

In hood terms...."want all the smoke"

Really appreciate this conversation.

Men need to become more dangerous. That is the truest statement I have heard in a long time.

@joebrooks4448

2 жыл бұрын

I have watched as Globalists have emasculated men since 1970. That is when I became aware of this and many other long term issues.

Thanks Chris, you do a masterful job of allowing your guests to speak while identifying the nuggets that pull the whole conversation together. Madd respect, keep going.

Chris your conversations with JP are the best he has! keep them coming and thank you.

Wow!!! Millions of people, especially young men , need to watch this clip. I was one of those very disagreeable students in school and faltered very much so in education because of it. This is so powerful and such a great argument for trying your best in school. I’ve watched countless hours of Jordan over the years and every so often I stumble upon a nugget of wisdom that is so profound it nearly knocks your socks off. This is that. Thank you Jordan for what you put out into this world. You are very much like the father figure to us all.

@bettermanchannel770

2 жыл бұрын

To be able to Marshall your position

@lmcintire-brooks475

2 жыл бұрын

ADHD is another barrier that seems to afflict boys more so than girls. I'm not sure what is meant by "disagreeable," but I suspect it's another generic term for improper behavior. My mother always believed that rigorous competition and sports helped boys. They needed some kind of physical outlet and that is good for their physical and emotional wellbeing. I happen to agree, though I'm not a boy. I couldn't really compete sports wise, but I did compete academically. I wanted too be smarter than everyone and I laughed at boys out there chasing the ball in the playground while I pursued other sorts of creative outlets. I consider myself lucky. I've had it easier than boys. Life has been easier for me than for most boys.

@rockenOne

2 жыл бұрын

Bud no, young men should not base their world view on KZreadr pop psychology.

@rockenOne

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardshortall5987 bud he is a full time KZreadr who monetises the left behind... Always be ware of an easy to digest message and easy answers, especially when sold by social media influencers.

@rockenOne

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardshortall5987 onya kiddo just being honest with you, if you want to follow a KZreadr's advice, you should at least recognise it.

I used recruit for colleges and presented to students at high schools. I told the students, the toughest battle I faced when I was a young man was overcoming my own ignorance.The ability to communicate effectively is more valuable than money.

@MikeyLikesItt

2 жыл бұрын

To know when to stfu is even better imho

@AdamSU119

2 жыл бұрын

@@MikeyLikesItt Seems like you don't know when to

@MikeyLikesItt

2 жыл бұрын

@@AdamSU119 😂

“Fire, Energy, Glory, and Thinking… Thinking is the important thing!”

Sounds like he's talking about the "Dark Gentleman" concept mentioned in a previous podcast. Men who have seen, accepted, and integrated their Shadow in a healthy way. They've harnessed their dark side and used it for good

The trick is to feel and accept the full range of your emotions without reacting to them. Anger is ok, killing someone is not. The unwillingness/resistance to feel your emotions is debilitating. That’s the idea. The steadiness of his attention and his ability to channel his emotions is what makes JP extraordinary.

I heard JP once say something along the lines of, a man incapable of violence is not holding non-violence as a virtue. And that’s always stuck with me, having been raised in an environment of women who invited bad men constantly into our lives, it would have made all the difference to see a strong yet restrained/level-headed man.

@polpol1005

Жыл бұрын

strong doesn't mean violent

@devilsoffspring5519

11 ай бұрын

@@polpol1005 It does for people who like to throw the word around a lot.

@polpol1005

11 ай бұрын

@@devilsoffspring5519 right

@kaczok1985

Ай бұрын

​@@polpol1005 It means capable of violence. That's not the same as violent.

@polpol1005

Ай бұрын

@@kaczok1985 I know but still, one should not praise it IMO

"Braveheart" touched on this, with this quote: "I know you can fight. But it's our wits that make us men." That's before Wallace's .. Uncle sends him off. Where he learns multiple languages, and how to think strategically on the battlefield.

These are so incredibly good that I want to personally thank you for making them and putting them here for all of us! Thank you - much appreciated…I have subscribed.

Brilliant explanation. So true

I really like and appreciate how Mr. Peterson brings the Rap artists analogy, they are so popular because of their verbal prowess. I am definitely attracted to rap artists (only the real ones though) because they are unbelievably articulate in their struggle up towards light as Mr. Peterson mentioned.

Plenty of men are plenty of dangerous they’re just not able to express it correctly. We live in a society where having an independent thought or individual opinion as a man labels you as a misogynistic predator. Many Men focused on image and status stay quiet, Some men just snap🤷🏻

@AliDixon95

2 жыл бұрын

No we don't 😄

@korratheaustralianshepherd5804

2 жыл бұрын

@@AliDixon95 some... key word... some

@AliDixon95

2 жыл бұрын

@@korratheaustralianshepherd5804 'we live in a society where...' was the part I was answering

@korratheaustralianshepherd5804

2 жыл бұрын

​@@AliDixon95 Ahhh fair point Ali, definitely have to agree with ya there

@AliDixon95

2 жыл бұрын

@@korratheaustralianshepherd5804 Good. His point about 'some' snapping is still dumb, you control and are responsible for your owm actions

I have to agree that being able to communicate effectively, in both speech and writing, is vastly important. The ability to speak to people at their level so they can understand and comprehend your point, without bringing emotion into it yields wonderful results. Avoiding the violence with reason and communication is highly beneficial, because there is always risk with violence. However, there are times when someone will not be swayed by prose nor logical argument, and will in fact be incensed by it, taking it not as logic but as condescension or perhaps arrogance. In those instances you will find yourself with violence being brought to you regardless of your communication skills. At that point, you need to be able to inflict grievous harm upon them, without remorse nor thought of fairness. You dole out pain and suffering to belligerents far in excess of the insult they offer, when you want to win the fights that have not occurred as yet. Being a man who can think and speak effectively is only part of the equation. You also need the discipline, knowledge, capability, and experience that comes with training to inflict that grievous harm. The competent, capable, highly trained, and thus very dangerous man does not venture out seeking a fight, as he already knows what he is capable of. The weak, insecure, and undisciplined males are who start the fights, outside of conflict over resources which brings an entire new element to the subject. The weak and insecure have something to prove, to themselves and to others, as they are desperate to appear powerful and capable. They often speak very highly of themselves, yet have precious little experience with violence. When the weak minded and insecure pick a fight with the competent, capable, disciplined man they have no idea what they are fucking with as they initiate, and its only after the fight is over that they realize how poorly they chose. It often makes them angrier and more violent towards others, but every so often these tin pot tyrants who accuse others of being exactly what they themselves are, will learn the hard way. The weak and incompetent seem to follow the same patterns, bluster, accusations, ad hominem, shaming language, belittling, demonizing, and then employing others to effect violence in their stead. They are incapable of doing the job personally, so they have underlings or others who are easily manipulated do it for them. False accusations lead to police forces being the tools of the tyrants who cannot handle it themselves. What do I know though, I am just an old, broken, gray haired, fat looking, military grunt who builds old hotrods out in the woods. I am harmless, unassuming, usually affable or quiet, perhaps even comical in appearance and demeanor. I agree that the world needs more dangerous men, who are capable of inflicting great harm, but refraining from doing so unless there is a threat that warrants the violence... and its not up to governments to decide when its warranted... as they are often filled to the brim with the weak, ineffective, and incompetent.

@earlgreystoke3324

2 жыл бұрын

@Thump Er the Sweaty Fat Guy Your statement; "At that point, you need to be able to inflict grievous harm upon them, without remorse nor thought of fairness. You dole out pain and suffering to belligerents far in excess of the insult they offer, when you want to win the fights that have not occurred as yet." is intriguing. Why would a confident, strong man react in a violent manner out of proportion to the real threat?

@willh7352

2 жыл бұрын

Well written, sir.

@SweatyFatGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@earlgreystoke3324 most people stop when the other is beaten, in my experience that leaves them insulted and they develop a rage about losing to someone they thought they could beat. They will roll it over in their minds, tell themselves the winner had to have cheated, and will often return to try again... sometimes with friends. That is how it plays out with bullies on the school yard, people who want to act tough in early adult life, sometimes later in life, and is what played out in Europe between 1918 and 1939. It was am armistice, letting Germany go but then punishing them further, which only incensed the population. They were not beaten, they simply ran out of resources. It was inevitable WWII would start, for those and many other reasons. This is something a young man learns as he defends himself against one or more bullies. If you only beat one just badly enough they stop, the other will keep coming. If you really throw a beating to the one, the others will notice and not fuck with you. e.g. winning the fights to come. In 1945 Germany and Japan were reduced to rubble, it was obvious they were beaten, and the nukes let everyone else know who was the big dog. 77 years of peace in Europe is the result. A weak ineffective dementia patient is all that was required to end that. How badly you must defeat them varies, no need to kill the drunken idiot who starts a fight with you while he has his liquid courage coursing through his veins. However taking him out very quickly and efficiently, without having any difficulty, will let everyone else in the area know who 'not to fuck with.' You should realize by now that I am not referring to conjecture or esoteric academic assertions/thoughts. I lived it. Backstory: I am 52, grew up on a farm in the 70s and 80s. I am number 2 of six kids, my parents never divorced. Mom passed in '14, dad in '20. My older brother is one of those weak minded, ineffective types, so proud of his mediocre accomplishments, and always needing to put down others to make himself look better. The last 3 and I think the oldest had a different father. Long story. My brother derived great joy in seeing me suffer. When I was six months old, mom found me screaming on the floor with a seam ripper buried in my back. Three years later he poisoned me by telling me Sanaflush was candy. Shortly thereafter he told me to hide in the dryer, then told mom to turn it on. That was just the beginning. As the years went by, the beatings I got from him increased in severity and frequency. I was run over by farm equipment, bludgeoned with the dirt packed root ball of corn stalks that could be swung like a mace. Beaten unconscious several times. He and a neighbor kid were throwing electric fence posts at me on a couple occasions, hitting me in the head and nearly costing me an eye. So many TBIs before we knew what they were... He wrecked his car one night in 1983, and would not allow me to wear my seatbelt in his car, I ate the dash and got my face customized, missing teeth, shattered nose, lots of scarring as my gum line was peeled back and my head smacked the glass. I've spent over a hundred hours in dentist chairs because of that damage. I am on my third dental bridge. I have endured decades of pain and PTSD because of him. In 1985 I had been wrestling for four years, and farm life had packed some muscle on me. I still had to work with him and any time he felt like it I took a beating. One spring day in '85, we were loading up some hogs so he could take them to market before school. He hit me a couple times because pigs are unruly when they know they are going to die. They are kinda smart. I left the barn, and went to wash up. He came running after me, hit me in the back of the head, knocking me down, and told me to get back there and help him. I stood and said no. He hit me again in the nose, and down I went. When I came back up I had grabbed both of his legs below the knees and lifted him off the ground. I dropped him on the sidewalk going to the farm house. He got up and went to swing at me again, I did a fireman's carry, picked him up on my shoulders and dropped him. Put him in a headlock and hit him in the head a few times. He demanded I let him up, so I did and he took another swing. This time I did a double leg takedown, picked him up, and body slammed him on the concrete front steps of the house. If he had gotten back up and taken a swing at me again, I was going to smash his head into the concrete the next time. I left him there and went to school. Later that fall my dad, who had been beating on me when he was frustrated, when thanks to Carter in the 70s and 80s was often, found out that I was not someone to try to hit. Dad kicked me until I could not move in front of the daughters of our neighbor because I could not run through knee deep mud chasing sheep. He once wrenched my neck so hard he left bruises all around the back of my neck. The last time dad tried to hit me, he swung back to slap me, and I gave him a half power hit to his sternum. He went down like a ton of bricks, and didn't get up for a while. He never tried to hit me again after that, which is a good thing, because at 17 I was 170lbs, 5'8 and bench pressing 265lbs. At 18 I was benching over 300. I got messed within school as well, hurt some kids, but not real bad because they had more of a problem with my brother. It was rare for me to have a day without someone trying to hurt me. I'd expound but this is already long. I qualified for state wrestling in 1987 at 167lbs, and on the way there I broke two kids arms, cracked several ribs on other kids, and knocked one kid out. Not trying to, but I was somewhat rough on the mat. I could beat everyone on the team, including the heavy and 185lb guy who ended up playing nose guard in the NFL for Jacksonville, Carolina, and Denver. The 185 took state his junior and senior year, because he had to wrestle me in practice and he got damn good having to be fast and strong. I enlisted in 1988, I had left the farm in 1987 after I graduated. I was neck deep in the Gulf War 90-91. Several altercations came after that in the civilian world, none of which were started by me, but I finished all of them. Stopping just short of ending someone or putting them in intensive care. No need to go to jail, but they knew for damn sure not to mess with me. I am a generous man, I treat people well, I do not threaten nor coerce people, and I try not to be intimidating in public. My nature is not prone to violence, so many people assumed I was harmless and an easy target. Since 2005 when I was injured on my last deployment, and after being an NCO, honing my leadership and writing skills, its quite rare that someone decides to start something with me. Having a 60" chest and 21' arms, with a 21 neck and 40" waist probably has something to do with it. I am built like a silverback gorilla with longer legs and shorter arms. To look at me you would never expect much intelligence, and I tend to downplay my abilities. I prefer people underestimate me, and assume I am harmless. They don't need to know that I have been in more fights than I can possibly count or remember. I am only that man when I need to be, and if I need to be at this age when everything hurts for weeks, I am going to hurt them severely as fast as I possibly can. .. and I can still inflict grievous harm, efficiently, and incredibly quickly despite my limited physical mobility. 500lbs is something I can pick up and carry. Couple that with 6 years of wrestling, including a year at the base level stationed in Germany, and all the experience in fights, you could say its not a smart move to mess with the old fat guy. Combat sports changed my life for the better. Actual combat felt like home the first time I experienced it. I know bullies, I know capable men who can severely harm me... but the thing is, the men who can take me out are also disciplined, trained, and experienced, they don't start fights either. They finish them. I would rather build old muscle cars, have fun racing with the kids, and spend time with my Siberian huskies... one of which wants to go out right now. I raised her from a little furball, she can tell when I am having a rough day from PTSD and stress. I like dogs far better than people.

@cecilforbes3034

2 жыл бұрын

Earl ,it’s called kill or be killed,well written ol fella ,life’s full of choices most can’t decide the correct turn 👍

@SweatyFatGuy

2 жыл бұрын

@@cecilforbes3034 I rarely had a choice in what happened to start everything. After living through what I have, most choice sin life are pretty easy. lol

Loving the camera and lighting set up 👌🏼👌🏼👏👏👏

Really loved this part of the interview, the whole of which I watched yesterday. So insightful.

So glad you're with us Jordan!

"Iron sharpens iron, and one man sharpens another.” -Proverbs 27:17 It's strange to me this dichotomy between men of their brotherly kinship versus how violent they are to each other over trivial things like what Freud called the "narcissism of minor differences." The tragedy of paterfamilias was the loss of the brotherhood turning man against man over millennia of perpetual warfare between disjointed rulers. It's good to see men trying to rebuild it.

Definitely timely.

New subber from Canada, Much love for you and this prof. I've learnt alot from him, I cant wait to delve into your content!

I loved every word of your captivating conversation Gentlemen. More power to you ALL Good MEN!

nice set. well done.

I'm an old f**ker. Watching this rises me up inside. Haven't felt this way for such a long time. JP is a wonderful man, he's younger than me but if you could choose someone to be your dad he'd be mine.

I don't want to blow my own horn and I apologise if i come across that way but Dr Peterson is correct in what he says...I'm a qualified combatives instructor...been a martial artist 30+ years...been a gym rat 15+ years and I've always gotten 94% or above in ALL exams I've ever sat in my life. I'm only 5'5 and have friends who are above 6' but when we go out socialising and some arguments kick off they always turn to me to sort it out because whether it be physical or verbal I always reach a desired outcome (peace) and if not then always the second most desireable outcome shows and that's domination which results in peace either way. This mans advice is beyond powerful I have as much admiration for this man as i do my own father (almost...pops is my pops no matter what lol).

@Temzzo

2 жыл бұрын

This story was very insightful, thank you

@MrWinstonSmithR101a

2 жыл бұрын

And yet you support the criminal abuse of men in the divorce courts to their suicide deaths because you are a manhater.

@JonnyBeoulve

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly. Also, masculinity and leadership is uncommon these days. Men who can be strong, confident, and inspirarional have more opportunities than ever before.

@charlesanekwe571

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for sharing this sir! Respect.

@quickmick1112

2 жыл бұрын

@@MrWinstonSmithR101a your comment confused me a bit...who exactly are you talking to? Me or the guy who replied first?

he is right.. words , intelligent and very detailed word prowess is much more dangerous than being very strong physically.. though a weak body can make your words less powerful.

@MandoMTL

2 жыл бұрын

Haha. Keep coping.

@fidgetyrock4420

2 жыл бұрын

@@MandoMTL Yeah in some sense words isn't enough either. But it beats physical strength in any society that uses communication.

@caralho5237

2 жыл бұрын

with intelligence you can make weapons a weak chimp can sharpen a stick and become the toughest motherfucker

Sooo , to make a long story short . . . use your talent ( whatever it is) , because that's where you show confidence !

There is nothing that makes you more formidable than verbal competence"

You need physical prowess for when your opponent decides they no longer care to argue with someone competent and decide to go for intimidation.

Just remember, being the most competent man in the room, usually also makes you the most hated by the other men. And if they have the means to shoot you down - alone or together - most of them will try to, if they think, they can get away with it. It gets you laid, and it gets you laid into the ground..

@devilsoffspring5519

11 ай бұрын

If you're both reasonably agreeable/kind-natured and also very competent, and people hate you for it, then you're surrounded by people who are pieces of shit and that's all there is to it.

@CONEHEADDK

11 ай бұрын

@@devilsoffspring5519 As my driving school teacher - an 80+ yo former general, called "The General" and a very cool and masculine guy - told me, when I was about to take the driving test (after taking the theory on my own without having a teacher - why pay someone for that - and The General was the only one in the whole city, who would accept that - and the only one who didn't demand 5 hours on MC and 10 in car - "that's just to steal you young kids money. When you can drive, you can drive" as he said) "You are obviously a man, who believes in him self (I was 21) but when you take the test, you might want to try to down play your self confidence, bcz if a man can feel, that an other man could threaten his status, he will have a endency, to want to keep him down". I didn't get it, and remeber thinking: "But I don't want to be a driving test guy. I don't know, what you are talking about". This was 40 years ago, when psycholgy was more or less as mumbo jumbo by common people as astrology was.. I wish, he had explained a bit more, bcz God knows, I've been a pain to many bosses and thugs, and paid bitterly for it, ever since. It's biology

Excellent discussion and video, thanks Chris. I imagine it must be quite intimidating speaking with someone both as articulate and lateral-thinking as Jordan, but it’s clear you understand the conversations and are able to add in your own takes without any expense to the flow or level of the discussion. Thanks for sharing this!

Aldous Huxley was one of the greatest writer

Awesome! Mind opening! 👍🇨🇦

Truth, that's it, period.

Dr Jordyn Peterson is GORGEOUSLY articulate. Wooow😳

I’m reminded of something I heard once upon a time. The great men who created great empires the benefitted the masses did things that would be considered monstrous.

Up to a point. If you show yourself to be to deadly the state will panic and use force against you.

@sustainablerenewableintegr8311

2 жыл бұрын

When you threatened someone, you must be ready to carry it out

This is good stuff. Others have called me dangerous. Now I know why.

... i feel as If I have experienced and produced the pinnacle of culture and society, all the while being totally invisible to those who consume and benefit from my endeavors. But when I want to make my voice heard there are are few who are able to listen or care, let alone inspired to action...

Dangerous to dangerous people. Quality stuff

I wasn't ready for Peterson to cite hip-hop and punk (and yes Rotten's band following the Pistols was Public Image Limited). Great clip.

God bless Jordan Peterson. He is a godsend.

The in-formation sentence slapped me in the face.

@douglasrobertson1330

2 жыл бұрын

Do you like getting slapped in the face?? haha

6:45 who was it that he mentioned there? A song called Rise by Jody Robin?

So how do you get better at articulation / discussions / verbal competence?

That should be a lesson at the beginning of every marshall arts class: > As you grow older their will be many many more times where you need to battle with words rather than physically. Learn to fight physically for fitness and confidence (and perhaps once in your life to actually fight) but you will win or lose many more times in your life based on your vocabulary than your biceps.

Physical prowess cannot be separate from the power of speech. Think of the language used: Where do you "stand" on this issue? What's your "position" on, say, Climate Change? It has to do with your posture. Being strong and confident in where you stand in your shoes is prerequisite for making a convincing argument. Its not about aggression. (though it's a deterrence tool) If you're a man who can easily be knocked over you won't be able to stand by your convictions very long when pushed.

Having come from a town that was controlled by organized crime, and now is a shadow's breath of its former self, I think that people in general are plenty dangerous enough.

This could be titled “men need to be more articulate” or “men need to be more formidable”. Because I’d describe a lot of men as dangerous, they’re in prison… because they’re violent and reckless.

@oliverkeverenge9819

2 жыл бұрын

JP's meaning of dangerous in this case is different than what you traditionally ascribe to the term.

@GamerOner2H

Жыл бұрын

Dangerously articulate, then.

The length of the video is 9:11 and it's a great length for a topic about being dangerous

God I love this guy, he is so awesome

Rise is great. Public Image Limited>Album. Lydon is an original. FFF, Fairwell Fairweather Friends. That whole ALBUM is great. Warrior is one of my favorite songs of all times. Be a Warrior.

Be genuinely good natured in every way. Used centered logic. Do everything you can to see the best possible results for everything. Matter and peoples' psychology. Put everything into easily interperetable words.

8:12 I need this playlist you speak of

Peterstone is a beast x

Peterson talking about the Sex Pistols in a good way just made my day.

Jordan Peterson is the living example of his sayings in this video. He articulates himself .

Knowledge is dangerous, and to get knowledge, you only pay - attention. No cash necessary! Knowledge is the cure to fear. ❤

He is literally describing me and why this man doesn't get the respect he deserves. Why you might ask. It's because he is a threat to the status quo for people who don't want to "toe that line" like myself. Its how I believe BJJ help catapult my confidence the way it did with the years of training. However I was still dealing with internal demons that have been hiding and manifesting in my subconscious. Then when I had a disassociate fugue due from prescription meds I was on. It cause me to have serotonin syndrome with created that disassociate fugue where I was two steps from grabbing a knife and ramming it in my neck/chest. It opened the flood gates and I had to fight my way back to the top of the water. I know I am still trying to keep my head above the water. It's also why I still have strong convictions on how I want/expect to be treated but also how others deserve to be treated

Exactly 💯 imagine an army coming for your Country and not having dangerous men to prevent it

Had to be reasoned with in the book 48 laws of power. Rather be a warrior in a garden than a gardener in a war.

the young english rapper JP is talking about is probably Chris Turner. This guy's is amazing, funny and talented.

Off topic. What would happen if we stopped using oil. Does it help control the core temperature of the earth. That would be a good reason. Would it ignite with volcanoes or make them bigger eruptions with more left underground. Would it make a astroid impact a life ending event that wouldn't be if we keep using it? I'm just curious if the is benefits to using it. Not financial.

In my experience, If the teachers like you and you ask questions you get praised. If they don't like you and you ask questions, they will avoid helping you succeed at all costs.

"Rap artists are popular because they're unbelievably articulate", I don't know about that, I think the lyrics are the least important actually

@breatheeasily4013

Жыл бұрын

I got a book I leave you shook I am cooking my meal Not McDonalds but its a happy meal

Genius

I am pretty sure he saw Chris Turner. Just if somebody wants to See the Logos manifest on stage. Love this Podcast!

A few books I would suggest before embarking on your essay adventure, there are many more. I have been on that train for 50 years. The mass media, government and educational systems since 1996 [US] is not supportive or even tolerant. The Federalist Papers/ Hamilton-Madison-Jay The Naked Communist/ Skousen 1984/ Orwell The Weapon Shops of Isher/ Van Vogt Rise Of The American Nation/ Todd-Curti Starship Troopers/ Heinlein The Black Book Of Communism/ Courtois Alexander Hamilton/ Chernow

This is a really interesting concept! Saving this for later. I once had a dream where people's level of power (in general, considering all aspects) was directly made manifest in their physical size. In my dream, I and two guy friends (they were both somewhat taller than me but we were all still around average human height) passed by on the street two men who were absolutely colossal. I'm talking 30ft tall at least, if we were a normal five-and-a-half to six feet tall. By our reactions, this was a rare sight. I never found out what made those men so huge before I woke up and I've been interested ever since in what sort of traits a metaphorical colossus would have in real life.

What a beauty

Dr. Jordan B. Peterson for Prime Minister of Canada! 🇨🇦

@draxZz__

2 жыл бұрын

He will be the worst politician ever.

@GudieveNing

2 жыл бұрын

*of the world!

@sophiesakura2719

2 жыл бұрын

@@draxZz__ no one is worse than trudeau

@draxZz__

2 жыл бұрын

@@sophiesakura2719 To become a politician you have to be like a charlatan, also like Pinocchio on steroid and JP is none of that. Tredeau is a hypocrite.

@steven5054

2 жыл бұрын

Socialised sex for incels!

Chris tuner represent

I a love to hear his take on rap on the black community

Durk went 👀 @2:01

The swag and verbal confidence expressed by hip hop artists has influenced and shaped the way 90% of artists and musicians act worldwide across all music genres. No doubt.

He’s a word genius

Be strong above all. Even be deadly. But do not be evil... "But what is liberty without wisdom, and without virtue? It is the greatest of all possible evils; for it is folly, vice, and madness, without tuition or restraint." --Edmund Burke

i don't usually comment on videos, but after watching the first few minutes of this video, i realize that i need to work on my communication skills.

@theblackspark2644

Жыл бұрын

Same haha, a skill that's sadly lacking in our society. They really should be teaching that in school.

The problem arises when your opposition is too stupid or careless to understand words. Pure intimidation is the only option from there on out, and it almost always ends badly. So, you are forced to either live with the issues or confront them and deal with hoards of fools.

@MikeyLikesItt

2 жыл бұрын

Best comment yet, My favorite Mike Tyson quote, "Everybody has a plan until they get punched in the face"

@JoMcD21

2 жыл бұрын

@@MikeyLikesItt True words.

@fridaytv4043

2 жыл бұрын

I agree, but do not ever expect people to be too stupid to understand what your saying. The more eloquent and truthfully ambitious you are in what you try to display the fewer people will form the „opposition“. A perfect human being could repent the stupidest of all men, because he knows how to deconstruct and „understand“ their point of view and then reconstruct a for all perfectly understandable explanation as why their wrong. You aren’t qualified of categorizing people of being too stupid to understand you, try harder if they’re “stupid”

@MikeyLikesItt

2 жыл бұрын

@@fridaytv4043 "think about how stupid your average person is, and then realize half of them are even stupider than that!!!" -George Carlin

@fridaytv4043

2 жыл бұрын

@@MikeyLikesItt good luck with that stupid mentality. “Expect the person in-front of you to know something you don’t.” - Jordan B.Peterson😉

4:09 Omg I know the comedians Jordan's talking about, it's either Chris Turner or MC Hammersmith.

Thank You, Dr. Peterson, for corroborating the Military axiom of holding strength in reserve. The weak boys and men in this world need to get a good jolt of physical training. I'm past 60, and work out 6 days every week. Tossing out a lot of the " soft skills" teaching by weak business people will go a long way to building men who have the intestinal fortitude when to step up, and fight like hell when necessary. NO SURRENDER, U.S.A. 🇺🇸

Chris: "Was it Aldous Huxley who wrote 'Doors of Perception'?" Jordy Be-Phresh: "Yes...Did he drop that on Def Jam or Death Row records?"

REAPS truth! 🧠 Being able to elaborate will not only help both you, and the recipient of your message- but also de-escalate many conflicts due to inaccurate interpretation. Ladies also love an eloquent tongue 😉 Education, reading, schooling, and University allow for deeper questioning and expression (on average). Tons of family and people that don't care to pursue the finer details and ridicule you for doing so.

I love jordan and his work but i hope he sees this so he knows to take a break every now and again

NOT PHYSICALLY PREPOSESSING that is new tier expression for me lolll

so cool to see Jordan Peterson praise Johnny Rotten/John Lydon.

Fightclub is a very deep interesting story. If you dig into that you found something about beeing man today. Layzrs under layers its so telling.

Of course Jordan is going to say that! Just look at him! The last thing he would want is for anything to become physical.

My son and I just recently had a discussion about "toxic" men. We finally agreed that toxic people in general can be used for the good of mankind or for the evil of mankind. We finished reading these verses : 1 John 3:8 For this purpose the Son of God was manifested, that he might destroy the works of the devil. And also in Luke 22, Jesus meak and mild who had previously told his disciple to put away his sword is now telling his disciples to buy a sword. Ephesians 6:11-18 tells the Christians in Ephesus to put on the whole armor of God including the sword of the Spirit which is the Word of God (logos). The Word of God as a sword in this context is being symbolic and practical for the narrative.

@andrealves5327

2 жыл бұрын

very good point, talk more about that please

@bigsteve6729

2 жыл бұрын

May I ask Victoria why you had to read a book to come to that conclusion when it seems you and your son have a perfectly fine moral compass, as do most humans. I am genuinely interested in your opinion, I do not believe in any organised religion or the words of man which have been rewritten and misconstrued over the years, but I also do not believe there is nothing, call me spiritual if you will. I have some questions with your viewpoint if you'd like a discussion: didn't God also create "toxic" people? What defines toxic? Aren't they just your judgemental views on someone else's behaviour and doesn't the Bible talk of this for example Matthew 7:1-5. Who made you the arbiter of who's defined toxic and who isn't and also, what if someone viewed you as toxic? You'd just deny it right? Surely there's perspective to everything that is missed out in your comment Hope to hear from you Regards from England

@EthanHall7276.

2 жыл бұрын

Not to make this a "whataboutism" or something. Although I suppose that's kinda what this is. But I'd suggest also teaching him about toxic women. I think men particularly need a lesson on the types of women to avoid. We're told all the time how bad men are. But men especially are never really told what kind of women to avoid. I'm sure there are a lot of guys out there that wished they knew more about that subject. And no I don't speak from personal experience. Just looking out for my fellow guys.

@based_misogynist1424

2 жыл бұрын

@@EthanHall7276. Lmao, can't u see she is clearly one of the toxic wahmen. Any wahmen, who likes talking about "toxic" men is clearly one of the toxic ones.

Interesting...I often wonder about a hypothetical scenario where women have the equivalent physical strength to men but otherwise are essentially like they are culturally today in the west (to give some parameters). It would be interesting to know whether this would have any impact at all or whether it might make a huge difference on gender issues. Love the example below from CS Lewis, great analogy.

@hctompkins

2 жыл бұрын

I have some experience with this. I've out performed men physically on a few occasions. The resentment is thick, it really hurts them. I think the stronger a women gets the less attractive to men she becomes and in turn she is attracted to less men. I was single for about 3 years, went on a couple dozen dates over that time and it was miserable. I was never attracted to any of them. I kept trying all of the things you're advised to do, give people you wouldn't normally a chance, give them more time, go out, be social, do new things. It was all just miserable for everyone involved. I've watched these videos and there's all so much over thinking involved. At the very bottom of it all I really just think we have failed men. They grew up without fathers, raised by women, have never had opportunities to struggle, discouraged physical play, we're all poorly socialized. But I find it very hard to empathize with, because if I was capable as a woman with all of the biological disadvantages that comes with it then what the fuck are men doing?

Dude I thought being a monster meant being in peak physical shape, knowing self defense having a tough mindset a disciplined mind, not being able to be articulate after I watched this it changed my perspective on it to a point as to yeah I think it’s a little bit of everything it added being articulate to the category of things I need to master

He is so right. I have dated many men but i havent chosen one, because most of them seem week to me. A very strong man is what i am looking for, and men are becoming weaker and weaker every generation. Now that i here him put it in words, i agree that what i was looking for all these years was a “good dangerous under control” man.

@delaslight

2 жыл бұрын

@The GigaChad I am very picky. I am not entitled. If everyone were picky there were fewer divorces and less trauma.

@delaslight

2 жыл бұрын

@The GigaChad if you are not, its hard to stay married, at least happily.

@carnivalbeast6307

2 жыл бұрын

They are so week that they are 7 days

@dranklive1522

Жыл бұрын

@@carnivalbeast6307 In a comment to a video about how being articulate is equivalent to deadliness, they'll never realize they made an idiotic mistake.

@delaslight

Жыл бұрын

@@carnivalbeast6307 well, English is my third language! I have never been to an English speaking country. Excuse my errors in my third language here and there!