I am trying to understand why people have such a deep seated hate for this man.

@edwardturpin6544

4 жыл бұрын

The combative interviews he's had were strange, but other than that, I have not seen much hatred for him. I guess some far-right, fascist, religious, and racist groups don't like him because he's not fascist, racist, or extremely religious, and they see him as competition? Some intellectual/scientific experts don't like that he draws upon their fields in a kind of unnuanced, pop-sci kind of way to construct his narrative/beliefs. Also, he went on a crusade about being forced to use peoples' pronouns of choice, which transgender people and their allies didn't like. He has a strange obsession with communism. I've only seen him speak of the "left" with disdain - This is probably where he gets most of the "hate" from, but I think that's too strong of a word. Personally, I'm pretty far left (I think most countries should add more socialism to their mixed economies), but I like Jordan Peterson. I just don't agree with pretty much any of his political beliefs.

@cman101892

4 жыл бұрын

Ludik if you speak enough truth regardless of what people are going to think, you will find out.

@truelightseeker

4 жыл бұрын

Well they knew once, but now it's just automated.

@pumpkinspice2597

4 жыл бұрын

Because most philosophers or psychologists are frowned upon. It shows threw out history.

@briancrist6388

4 жыл бұрын

Insecure people

Jordan Peterson is really helping me getting my life right. I wish I could meet this man in person and thank him.

@paulfroelich1024

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@infinitetroll7168

4 жыл бұрын

Yea so now you know you aren't depressed but your life simply sucks. good to know, right?

@alexandraelena6499

4 жыл бұрын

Same

@dmcsunshine1

4 жыл бұрын

SaltyDVa. I was wishing to meet him too.

@OltrePodcast_Official

4 жыл бұрын

@@danielross51086 I don't live in Canada and I'm from Europe

Jordan: 1. Do you have a job that’s alright 2. Do you have an intimate relationship that is functional 3. Do you have friends 4. Do you have a functioning relationship with family 5. Do you have things you enjoy outside your work Everyone: Not really

@perciousmatter7001

4 жыл бұрын

:((

@SovereignStatesman

3 жыл бұрын

FW the point is that he is just pedding pop psychology and no shit Sherlock obvious stuff, but taking hours to say it and dressing up with big words to make everybody feel smart before realizing the fucking obvious LOL Then he makes people feel bad for not being perfect according to his standards, and tells them that he can provide it with his 10 easy rules. He just can't give a straight answer, because then everybody would realize he is just a fraud.

@accesschilly

3 жыл бұрын

@@SovereignStatesman Lol

@Myllkka

3 жыл бұрын

@@SovereignStatesman He puts into proper words many things that are being disconstructed by society nowadays and making people feel confused and lost, since they're actually far from what a human being naturally wants (friends, family, work, meaning in life). He helps normal non pretentious people understand things they couldn't understand before without simplifying them. He helps people understand themselves. What makes you think psychology is much deeper than this? Hopefully a healthy person won't go much deeper than this. It isn't pleasant to think too much to the point of considering yourself a philosopher. I think his work is legit, because he explains things that are probably going to be useful for someone who feels lost in life, and many people do. Me as a young person, it made me feel better that somethings he (a proper adult) explains make sense, since I'm so used to the world being crazy at this point, and seeing adults behaving like kids.

@pizza134

3 жыл бұрын

sounds like a perfect life, except i wanna be really passionate about my job too, my creative brain turned into bipolar brain after trauma happened and i didnt even knew i had been through trauma

I had no idea Jordan knew my family so well. Small world, huh?

@robbyconcha-eloko3635

4 жыл бұрын

lol you're in the right path fam

@art-ificialblon-die7013

4 жыл бұрын

Humans are very predictable to the higher intellects.

@johannesbergcrantz

4 жыл бұрын

Was just about to write that, are we related? :)

@nefelibata4190

4 жыл бұрын

predictable maybe yes, but still can't get along as much as one should tbh.

@rock801

4 жыл бұрын

No, we humans just do not differ much. Especially the less educated ones act more on emotions and there you have predictabke patterns. You will not be able to predict a future but you will be able to constraint possible futures with some level of accuracy.

I admire the man’s thought process especially the man’s mindfulness and thoughtfulness when he talks, he must be one of the most clear headed and sane people on the planet.

@SpookyWatcher

4 жыл бұрын

Psychologists are not sane at all, he just has amazing analysing properties.

@Voidhowl.

4 жыл бұрын

@@SpookyWatcher care to elaborate on the insanity of psychologists?

@SpookyWatcher

4 жыл бұрын

Voidhowl they have to deal with a lot of mental cases, also analyse what is going inside their heads. That being said it’s a noble sacrifice.

@Voidhowl.

4 жыл бұрын

How exactly does that make the practitioner insane?

@jintymcginty1469

4 жыл бұрын

@@SpookyWatcher I think it's more that hes educated and has 30+ years experience in his field - psychology and sociology and the like

Oh he pulled the lobster card

@Metaldrummer67

4 жыл бұрын

It's highly effective

@michaelzamora8056

4 жыл бұрын

@Shutbyotch its okay he's part lobster

@macbrns1438

4 жыл бұрын

Shutbyotch but I’ve got lobster friends

@jimmymcguire8217

4 жыл бұрын

Lobsters lives matter

@SciMethodify

4 жыл бұрын

Perhaps the fonts of serotonin issuing forth from the Raphe, which lies deepest within ourselves, are not always at a steady stream. And maybe that's how it's supposed to be. I've heard we can help heal this area if we choose, but I am not sure how. I just accept my depression as me being humbled to the lowest.

The worst relationships I have had were with people who spoke the sweetest.

@Fatima19793

4 жыл бұрын

The sweetest mouth has the sharpest teeth

@welderella

4 жыл бұрын

Amen! The “nicest” men ended up being the most abusive.

@nihilistcentraluk442

4 жыл бұрын

Covert narcissists are highly dangerous.My theory is they are probably the number one cause of a spectrum of illnesses that end in madness.

@OsirusHandle

4 жыл бұрын

@@welderella Its also possible to be legitimately nice and still hurt you without them being abusive, for example if they feed into your bad habits.

@michaelevans4265

3 жыл бұрын

@@welderella getting in here to also say the "nicest" women can also be the most ungrateful and/or abusive with a dash of toxicity

My father criticized me harshly yet I’m doing well at school in fact I’m in college which is especially a good thing for a male in Jamaica. Some how he’s proud he just never told that to me. Dr. Peterson helped me to get my thoughts together when I found this man it was a blessing, still is. This is a good man.

@yeid44

3 жыл бұрын

criticizing is absolutely necessary but it has to be on the actions of kids, not themselves. It also must be productive and not coming from a place of hate to one's self or any other form of influence, you will see yourself in your kids.

@benfica1171

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah same, the type of family that thinks treating you harshly in person and singing your praises while you're not there is a healthy way to educate somebody. I know that all too well.

@funkykriz21

3 жыл бұрын

stay hungry for success and on the right way! big up ! ;)

@user-mw4kg8cx8t

3 жыл бұрын

Be proud of yourself and don’t take personally others weakness. He probably is envious and doesn’t have the strength or wisdom to manage it properly. Best, friend.

@lordvoldemort4242

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-mw4kg8cx8t All the best in life.

''Words are the physicians of a mind diseased.'' -Marcus Aurelius

@broman8684

4 жыл бұрын

Waste no more time arguing about what a good man should be. Be one.

@wingwaves940

4 жыл бұрын

Dis-eased :(

@danieltaylor3625

4 жыл бұрын

I re read this like 10 times before I got it

@soldtobediers

4 жыл бұрын

@@danieltaylor3625 Truth is always like that somehow. Took me from 2013 to condense the following quote representing my book. ''For There Are None Closer, to the author of pain, & sacrifice Himself... Than Those Who Choose, to perform it for the sake of others.'' -gilpin 122119 -Former U.S. Paratrooper Sgt. William Gilpin 82nd Abn. Bon Appetit Daniel Taylor... www.brainyquote.com/authors/marcus-aurelius-quotes

@soldtobediers

4 жыл бұрын

@Integrated Crazy kzread.info/dash/bejne/eaqiyrCeeKTHlso.html

I lost my father in my teenage years. Jordan is my father figure and God only knows how much he has helped me.

@kellydemando3303

4 жыл бұрын

Remember folks, you can be a lot of terrible things, but at least you’ll never be khelbenrage

@braedenurquhart494

4 жыл бұрын

Lizette Ramirez i feel you man, he is a great role model for those that don’t have a father to look up to

@speedrunsandmemes

4 жыл бұрын

God is not real

@LukeClark34

4 жыл бұрын

@@speedrunsandmemes ok and?

@tylersoto7465

2 жыл бұрын

Jordan Peterson is a inspiration that speaks in truth

I never watch Dr Peterson without feeling a sense of wonder - because he is a teacher par excellence. To listen to his lectures is a pleasure and a privilege, leading us with the greatest of ease through the most complex and fascinating areas of the mind, and of human nature.

@my9thaccount140

Жыл бұрын

If only every teacher could be like this. I’ve never had a teacher like this.

@speakwell.840

Жыл бұрын

@Mayo's Mayo ?

I'm 27, had a stable job I enjoyed and was good at and was independent and stable financially for years until I found myself sucked into an unemployment depressive episode after my divorce. I've been going on and off employment for 2 years. I live at home again and developed a cannabis addiction which further exacerbated my unemployment which further exacerbated my depressive/anxious episode which exacerbated my cannabis use I'm also very self-criticical. This is a living hell but I'm trying very hard to fight my way out of it. I know it's my own hole I dug and mine to get out of.

@methree3821

2 жыл бұрын

Forget being an employee. Be your own boss. Even if you get a job as an employee, the mentality of an entrepreneur keeps you fresh. Gets you out of bed and staves off stagnation. Being employed might pay the bills, provide structure etc. and that is all necessary, but the mentality needs to be 24/7 that it feeds into your purpose. Either skills, experience or plain work ethic. And a good starting place is voluntary work because you help others and regain routine and impetus.

@user-cg6rz7ul5z

Жыл бұрын

I’m 20 years old and I’m all of what you said, however I do work :/

@daneanderson744

Жыл бұрын

Keep at it. You can do it. Godspeed.

@angryhoneybadger4189

Жыл бұрын

Don't blame it on the weed. Take some accountability. I, along with thousands of others smoke weed every day and handle our business. Saying stuff like this is what gives marijuana users a bad name.

@arturravenbite1693

Жыл бұрын

@@angryhoneybadger4189 when did I blame the weed?

Any one els watching to see which type of depressed they are?

@breh4141

4 жыл бұрын

must suck to be you

@TheZeffan

4 жыл бұрын

Yep! Curious. You’re not alone.

@sna3934

4 жыл бұрын

Yes

@snail2734

4 жыл бұрын

alex bez yep lol

@SuspiriaX

4 жыл бұрын

yup turns out I don't have depression, I have a PROBLEM (with my family)

You got the toxic family dynamic correct. We are ultimately responsible for our own growth, but that rough start is one hell of a rough one.

My favourite part was when he said somehow they “don’t know” they are being manipulative but because they have repressed their issues over 100 times “yeah, but they did know”. And I think the way that Jordan says this is so powerful because you try and have empathy for these people but really when you think about it, at one point in time they knew exactly what they were doing to people and still they chose to do it.

@albusdumbledore8173

4 жыл бұрын

yes. they made their choice.

@maisetas

4 жыл бұрын

thats exactly what my ex did, she just one time flirting with someone, later she dont want to talk about it and call me jealous," dont be jealous", "the problem is because u are jealous", but she kept doing that, and chatting with others and just making lame excuses. thats fucked up brain damaged people who are doing this kind of bs and not just trying but already convinced themselves that its normal. wow thats crazy when u think about it.

@laceymisquadis2760

3 жыл бұрын

This is interesting, a person I loved cheated on me and I knew it but I was in such denial, I lied to myself and emotionally I became unstable (this lasted 10 years!). I am finally now able to think through it and stop victimizing myself, sucks though because I developed and alochol addiction and ny career is no where near where I'd like it to be...but my point is I knew and I chose to lie to myself (and it realllyyyy fucked me over, smh).

@jessebradford3900

3 жыл бұрын

I think it’s because they’ve aware they have the problems. They know the difference between right and wrong but don’t want to expend the energy of going against their natural tendencies. That’s everybody. But if you have major issues, it’s even worse. I think people with mental illnesses/ disorders, depending on the severity of them don’t have a choice but must work harder on themselves than people who don’t own these type of problems. For an example, say you’re an alcoholic. You quit drinking. But you’re at a wedding and everyone’s loose from alcohol. It’s a trigger for you. You don’t want to have to fight the urge and be miserable. Nobody else has to worry about that. They’re all having fun but your disposition requires you to refrain. That does suck but that’s just the way it is. If I have an anger problem and I wanna punch a hole in the wall, I have to refrain and maybe do something less destructive.

@gcg8187

3 жыл бұрын

@@maisetas bro you're insecurity is a problem. let her talk to who she wants, what are you worried about?

"They will tell u they love you all the while criticizing you to death" sounds like every mother and daughter relationship

@Rufusdos

4 жыл бұрын

Woah, it's very sad that you should feel that.

@Rufusdos

4 жыл бұрын

@@dinok7630 How could that possibly be described as a real friendship?

@DukeOfDiabetus

4 жыл бұрын

@@dinok7630 There is good criticism and bad criticism. If they criticize you for bad habits and bad decisions and they are trying to help thats positive. But if its all to put you down thats negative.

4 жыл бұрын

@Ronaldo Hyde Same, man

@DazraelArianos

4 жыл бұрын

Yep. Mother loved me "more than anything" but I wasn't good enough even when I was getting straight A's. She also spent my college fund on a new car shortly before I graduated high school. Motherly love. There's nothing quite like it.

My brother is in his late 20's, he currently has 4 kids, 1 on the way, has a drug addiction and is jobless. He never graduated high school but he has several skills. What he said about family always just lying or just having a bad relationship describes my family so much. We're 7 kids, and all of us have had tragic childhoods.

I want to listen to the rest of his thoughts on manipulative people.

@lenBrill1971

4 жыл бұрын

Same here

@jesscarroll1915

4 жыл бұрын

Ditto

@haidengeary8277

4 жыл бұрын

Hes as manipulative as any, he does have his agenda.

@ReallyGnashty626

4 жыл бұрын

@@haidengeary8277 Having an agenda doesn't make you manipulative. Having an agenda against others does.

@starrix4712

4 жыл бұрын

He’s manipulative, but as long as people don’t idolise him (leading to stronger subliminal influence) then I don’t think it matters. Time to turn the tables on that type. Take their info, look into it and leave them in the dust. Watch them fall as we rise. Teal Swan is a similar intelligent type that comes to mind. Having said that I don’t think Peterson is anywhere near as manipulative or sociopathic as her, he just has his complex biases and motivations.

My mother is just like that. She would complain if you didn't do the house work perfectly and scold you if you were lazy. The worst part is she didn't treat my other siblings like that, only me. I often thinks she don't need a daughter, she only need a house maid.

@lynnskaggs9356

4 жыл бұрын

My mother always treated me that way, and now that her dementia has lowered her inhibitions, she openly admits how little daughters were valued in her family. She only had one child, me, a female. She wanted a son. Stay strong. She is her problem, NOT YOU.

@BahdVibeZ

4 жыл бұрын

Integrated Crazy no such thing as lazy

@ys6196

4 жыл бұрын

I decided to honestly tell all my family about how I feel, and it seems I was wrong about how she treats me. She do get angry with my other siblings, I just didn't see it. I was too trapped and too observant in my perspective and I got so negative about the situation but its not, when she gets angry it just mean she is in a bad mood, its not a planned action. I suggest if others is in this situation, talking to the other person is the best way to solve and understand the problem.

@ys6196

4 жыл бұрын

@Integrated Crazy I used "perfect" in my previous comment, if you want a kid that do all your housework, might as well hire a maid, everyone need their own time, you can't priorities your housework over your studies or work so of course you won't be able to do the housework perfectly. I might have used my words wrongly on saying I'm lazy, but you don't even know the whole story and situation, calling me lazy for just knowing the one sentence I said is so useless in accusing me or making me think I'm lazy.

@chele277

4 жыл бұрын

My mother treated me like the maid, was harder on me than my brothers. I resented it when I was younger. I've squared in my head now that she was from a generation that didn't value women but now my house is spotless and I run a tight ship and I can cook from scratch and make a meal out of nothing really and my bills are on time and I can make a penny strechI appreciate it now as most of peers live like pigs. Plus I don't have to worry after a hard day's graft that I don't go home to a shit pit. As this man said "clean your room" so I'm glad now my mum taught me how to take care of myself, my living space and now my family

I suffer from depression. The thing that I think he glosses over is that depression is like a force that is constantly dragging you down, so trying to focus on self improvement is VERY difficult. It's like having a nagging spouse or parent that is constantly saying, "why are you doing this, you know your going to give up? You're such a loser". The easiest time for me to self improved was when I was in a very good relationship and was very happy. Unfortunately, rarely actually being happy makes finding a relationship very difficult.

@gcg8187

3 жыл бұрын

you're last sentence is wrong!!!!! I struggled with chronic depression as a player. I'm in an amazing relationship of 5 years, I still struggle with it. that's why i'm on this video. also the only reason you're saying it's VERY difficult to focus on self improvment is beacause you're making conclusions based on the past projected to future. i have fucking terrible focus issues, took me 6 years to finish my undergrad degree, so I feel you. BUT can I tell you something that's been working for me lately? when you are aware and have the energy to say "ugh I'm fucking up again, I got shit to do but I'm wasting time" just focus on self improvement for 5 minutes. that's it. clean for 5 minutes. or study for 5 minutes. or wash your face and comb your hair for 5 minutes. forget what you been doing all day, forget the last month of procrastinating, forget that deadline in the future, "I was supposed to do this 3 weeks ago but fuck it I'll just do 5 minutes. When the 5 minutes timer goes off, that's it, you don't need to focus for 5 hours, you're done. One step at a time.

@V-AmpD

2 жыл бұрын

Sounds like you are co dependent.

@electricdreams9446

2 жыл бұрын

I've had some pretty good relationships and depression has been a constant in my life since being a teenager. People have cared about me even though I've been dreadful at times. So don't let it stop you. depression is something I've learnt to treat like a bad knee or something.

@electricdreams9446

2 жыл бұрын

@@gcg8187 i like your strategy a lot.

@rebecasonata

2 жыл бұрын

@Stella Aster No. Just NO. Stop the b's saying that you can just "choose" not to be depressed. That is betarded and in many cases deadly. There's plenty of us people with wonky brain chemistry that already feel bad enough without a-holes like you and your "pretty sure you should just get over it". Really... Stop it. Those words cause deaths and further depression.

"The death or illness of yourself...is really hard on people". Yep, I found it a pretty big bummer when I died that one time too.

@elizabethdavis8264

4 жыл бұрын

Emphasis on the "or illness" at that bit ;)

@Z4J3B4NT

4 жыл бұрын

physical death is not the only death... you know when people say they died inside? yeah, thats what he meant. hollow, empty people who have no pleasure in life. dead inside.

@davidb3155

4 жыл бұрын

I've had a near death experience. It's hard to motivate yourself when you know just how peaceful the end was.

@BillyViBritannia

4 жыл бұрын

@@davidb3155 I think that's actually very motivating. If I knew that death is peaceful I could then go all out on my desires and dreams and fear nothing. As long as I don't end up getting tortured or something it's like knowing there's a happy ending.

@lovelylillie7869

3 жыл бұрын

Ego death

i love it when you ask a question in a conversation prior to watching/reading material that leads you closer to solving that mystery.

Is my lack of ambition a symptom of my apathy? Is my apathy a symptom of my depression? Is my depression a symptom of my actions? Are my actions a symptom of all of the above? How do I find the will to change my life?

@gabrielalfaia8154

4 жыл бұрын

Go see a psychologist none of us are able to answer that kinds of questions alone (at least not after many donwfalls and time lost)

@ZukitoMirikito

4 жыл бұрын

Lobster

@meruemsan460

4 жыл бұрын

Clean up your room

@terminaltranscendence8422

4 жыл бұрын

you work hard at avoiding negative people....places...circumstances and have faith beyond this world....believe in your intuition.....believe in your self.

@justinakers3196

4 жыл бұрын

Integrated Crazy only if you come with me, friend

9:16 wow, he nailed it. My Mom was socially isolated and filled with self loathing. she did indeed 'know once...' As an adult child, I gave up a lot to help take care of her when she was dying ( 9 years of care). I knew she'd never recover and die. I did it for myself, not her so I would not feel guilty. But her narcissism and lack of friendships made her over share aspects of my life that I had no idea about. Many childhood events - 1 event calling my Nana 'Mom' at around age 2 or 3 and being told by my Nana that she was not my mother. My earliest memory. My mother never bonded to me, so I bonded to my Nana and my Mom resented it. All that hidden resentment came out 1 day - all her complaints & laments. My response: 'I was a child, you were an adult. ' she stopped stunned. It was always about her. I forgave her, as she was flawed. But I never had that relationship most children had. My advise and I'm sincere - if you leave home, never go back. I left University to go to a local college & moved back to help out. I was competition when I came back. Don't go back, go forward. old wounds do not heal, they just get grass grown over them like a forgotten garden. you till that soil & the hurt is still there and you have to release it again or go sour. dig in new dirt, let the old wounds rest.

@orls9068

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@PoleHaus

Жыл бұрын

Your mistake was forgiving your nana

@whiteysmit6653

Жыл бұрын

Bless you. Thank you for sharing.

@drcl7429

Жыл бұрын

@@PoleHaus Maybe read it again?

@maggiem6209

Жыл бұрын

Your story reminds me very much of my relationship with my mother. She does not allow me to communicate with her as an adult. She never has. My entire adulthood, and as a child, she forced me to parent her. Yes she worked up until she retired. Yes she loves me. But we do not have a steady relationship because she will not allow me to speak my mind to her, she won't let me be the mid-20-something adult I am. Every so often she gets upset about not "being my mom" because I have a good relationship with my aunt, her sister. She resents us both for it. But I did not choose for her to be emotionally unavailable and emotionally neglectful. She is emotionally manipulative. I try to help her. Tell her how to help herself. But she and my dad both are miserable people determined to destroy their health and manipulate loved ones through sympathy. I know they made that choice once, and noe they don't even know they're doing it. It'll be a sad day when they need in-home care because they chose not to help themselves, because I will not help them turn my adulthood into the hell my dad's parents turned his into. Thank you for sharing your story, because it helped me see the similarities in my own.

I remember the first time I was watching this lecture and it got to the part about family and he spoke on nothing but motivated speech. It hit me like a truck. I was at work and all of the sudden everything came crashing down. I'm normally a well composed and strong individual who can hold back emotion until appropriate to show them but I broke down in tears and couldn't control myself. It really connected so many dots and the realization of my compartmentalization throughout childhood really made sense. My survival was dependent upon a shrouded veil of untruths about my history and my familial structure.

@pattyhansen7563

11 ай бұрын

This hit the nail on the head for me, too. When I was 14 I found a letter, not carefully concealed mind you, from my mother to my father explaining that she was going to abort me. She was not married to my dad & wanted to get rid of me, as they had broken up & she was in college. This literally tore my 'world' apart & I had NOONE to tell. I had been told that my parents were happily married & had me after. I found out in my adult years that my dad was actually engaged to someone else & had to drop that woman & my mom dropped out of college. All of a sudden all the bitterness in their marriage made sense and I felt responsible. (I think if they had managed to work things out to a happy situation, it probably would not have affected me like that) I am 42 now, & my parents have continued the lies. My husband came from a similar situation - mom claimed that she didn't know she was pregnant with him until she was 7 months along. Really I think she was afraid to tell her evil husband that she was accidentally pregnant again & that he would make her get rid of him. Everything in his family is lie. Everything. The way that families try to fabricate the truth amazes me & they have no idea the devastation it does on your psyche. After that info, I have never trusted my parents' perceptions on anything and I am not too dedicated to being truthful with them. I really have a hard time trusting people in general. My husband is the same way, in some regards although it manifests itself in a different way.

I wish I could talk to Jordan for just an hour I feel like he would be able to help me

@varolussalsanclar1163

4 жыл бұрын

Just go see a psychiatrist

@ElizabethSiregar

4 жыл бұрын

@@varolussalsanclar1163 not all psychiatrist like JP, most of them might prescribed unnecessary anti depressant pills

@fromans1734

4 жыл бұрын

The Voice of Reason Why not a psychologist? As long as it’s a therapist it doesn’t really matter.

@ZiYaD-Bin-Fahad

4 жыл бұрын

Jp is not a psychiatrist either.

@Kevin-vk5tx

4 жыл бұрын

@@ElizabethSiregar I'll try and help...what's going on?

So many disorders would be eliminated if people just cleaned their room and found a lobster.

@aaronbrown8377

3 жыл бұрын

Found their room and cleaned a lobster.

@MisterCatMan

3 жыл бұрын

Lobstered their founders and roomed their cleanings

@Dwa24Cztery

2 жыл бұрын

lovely joke around 12 rules ♥

@icydawn5570

2 жыл бұрын

@Shutbyotch ayo for real I’m depressed and i have shellfish allergies

@tmar8959

2 жыл бұрын

@@icydawn5570 shellfish or being selfish? 🤣

Dr. Peterson views about depression and society are some of the best. They are life changing!

I love you for linking to the full talk in your description

@jawwad4020

Жыл бұрын

I second that! I always dislike videos that don't.

Wow my family exactly..I went no contact 2 years ago with the whole psycho family. Still healing from it all. ❤️

Perspective. That's why I have love for this man and his continued work. Thank you for speaking straight, Jordan.

I often listen to your presentations, and this one really made an impact on me. I have my lowest time in my whole life right now from 6 months ago. Thank you!

Thank you so much, Dr. Peterson. You've helped so many people. Thank you, and I hope your family is having a peaceful holiday season.

Wow - now this is what I call a real, true psychologist! Not just addressing and diagnosing 'mental illness' but actually teaching how to be aware of dealing with problems, which can lead to destruction. The explanation of what leads to depression is impeccable! I wish everyone could hear and watch this video; the world has become so broken. We each need to take responsibility and make improvements where we can. I can so relate - May God continue to Bless this man and his work! Thank you for sharing this; lots of food for thought.

@PoleHaus

Жыл бұрын

People like you always talk about making things better, but that's all it is; just talk

@whiteysmit6653

Жыл бұрын

@@PoleHaus just stay miserable then bro.

This clip is one of the most valuable ones I've watched of Dr. Peterson. Thanks for sharing it!

What a helpful and insightful discussion. I thank him very much for these lectures and thank the person who is posting these on youtube! Thanks!

That unemployment part hit Me hard

sometimes i feel like depression is just peoples intelligence taking over and realizing life is nothing why would u even want to be here instead of going with it and living in the moment.

@wintertontoday

4 жыл бұрын

I wonder if you're right...... People who seem to be the most "happy" that I've met and continue to meet tend to be people who are carefree and live their lives in an almost unconscious way.

@daltonbrennan8242

4 жыл бұрын

I do believe consciousness and intelligence are related to depression. You make an interesting point.

@XPCREEPER

4 жыл бұрын

@@daltonbrennan8242 yeah and honestly it can go multiple ways. if you are focused and present in life you can use that as a tool to live in each moment and enjoy it or constantly question why it is you endure each day just because everyone else is.

@daltonbrennan8242

4 жыл бұрын

@@XPCREEPER and to be a successful and intelligent person you have to overcome that depression and find motivation in it. Too many people succumb to that feeling of being lost and not knowing where to go or what to do

@crawdad6354

4 жыл бұрын

This theory is interesting. As someone who has autism(this may seem unrelated at first bare with me) when I put my focus onto things it can literally give me a headache. Anything from a social situation like an argument or a siren going off the more I focus on it the more painful it becomes. Awareness is intrinsically stressful to the human brain, it causes it to work more than usual and could be an underlying issue to some cases of depression. Existential awareness is a bitch and when I used to question the unicmverse all the time with thought like the meaning of life it would get me in a bad mood. When I developed the pilosophy that life is meaningless and therefore I don't have to abide to any expectations I was way better mentally. As silly of a reason to have a depressive phase as that was it really did help to take my mind off of things. This theory is very interresting indeed and there is evidence to back it up although depression can also be a physical thing in the brain and things like love and what yoy eat can also effect it. Something interesting to consider is that your diet could even effect how much your body produces certain emotional chemicals. Emotional matters could be dictated by physical things although I think in terms of diets most people get the essentials to make those all of the chemicals. Also intelligence isn't necessarily associated with depression but awareness is (someone smarter than einstein could realize just how horrible the world can be and still not be depressed)

Thank you very much for sharing this video! It’s absolutely amazing how well he explains the issue! Thank you very much!

Glad to see you are back. You are of incredible value to so many people.

He's very interesting when people arnt blowing air horns at him

@petergianakopoulos4926

4 жыл бұрын

Ha that's gold

@donnadizucchero

3 жыл бұрын

Even when they're he's still bloody brilliant and amazing human being.

I feel like I'm every kind of these different depressed people

"you did something you don't like and it's bothering you. you could think it through but you choose not to...so it's left vague and uncertain - very emotionally salient but you just refuse to think it through and you make a habit of doing this" - 8:20

Wow I wish there were more teachers like this! I had to figure these concepts out for myself & a lot people treated me like I was a psycho when I deviated from their personal narratives. Especially when I was younger.

When he talks about repression and how it becomes a routine that people once chose, he is discounting dissociative tendencies that individuals take on , many times in early childhood, as a defense mechanism. Tough habit to just snap out of

@favor4afavor823

4 жыл бұрын

@timwins31 umm..you understand that adults were once children, correct? It is nearly universally accepted that childhood abuse, neglect, and trauma are overwhelmingly linked to behavioral, personality, and psychological issues in adulthood, not to mention drug abuse. Let me say I am a huge fan of JP. I would clarify that I wouldn't reccomend any adult simply succumb to their childhood issues, they should get professional help. This is a lot different than "stop choosing to suck at life."

Really appreciated the points he brought up on depression - but I liked that this talk goes beyond that too. Because this is actually really good advice on how to do shadow work within yourself ✨☯️

Interesting talk as always. Never dull, or boring.

His analysis are so helpfull and clear! Hope he will be around for a long time~

What if your life sucks because of your depression? And then your depression gets worse due to your terrible life. I think he talked about this in another lecture.

@MusclesAndMelodies

4 жыл бұрын

Frank From what I recall his stance on situations like this is antidepressants, preferably in conjunction with therapy. There’s a certain point where if the pillars of a stable life (intimate relationships, financial stability etc.) aren’t in place it can be incredibly difficult to escape the cycle on willpower alone.

@justdoit83388

4 жыл бұрын

Then a daily dose of jordan peterson is recommended.

@flaco5581

4 жыл бұрын

Fix your life and quit worrying about the depression.

@Cyrus_II

4 жыл бұрын

@@flaco5581 you don't get to worry about depression. it takes over your psyche

@shubhamrajpara4816

4 жыл бұрын

That's the beauty of it

These last 30 seconds really describes the situation of what some of my old friends went through. They've latched onto these alter ego's for so long.. Neglecting so many negative emotions.. Those people aren't the same anymore. It's very sad to lose someone because of death.. But I think it's more saddening to see your closest friends growing into such different people, to the point where you can hardly recognize them at all. Even though they're still alive, it's like their true personality died a long time ago.

@SuspiriaX

4 жыл бұрын

Woaaah shit! I had the same experience. It ended with me calling one of them a bully. And then I had to press the ejector seat button because the whole group was coming after me. 100% preeetty good friends before that happened. Until they then weren't.

@SuspiriaX

4 жыл бұрын

Proves that people can change. Perhaps easier for the worse than for the good. And deep inside they are unchanged and it's just the new pain-body they dug up.

I love your platform! Thank you!♥️🙏

Thank YOU!!!

What he said about unemployment is so freaking true. As this coronavirus happened I wasn't working for months and it just ate away at my mental health and self-esteem. I thought there was something wrong with me on a deeper level but as I finally started to get back to work my mood improved a lot. Thanks doc, you've helped me figure that out.

The first doctor who insisted I needed antidepressants didn't first bother to ask me for how many months I had been working 80 hours a week, much less why.

You sum up my father perfectly in the last part of this clip, and I'm very grateful for its articulation, particularly because my other family members are also unwilling to face this ugly truth. They'd get a taste of it, wallow a bit, then try to ignore it again and then history repeats itself, but in a worse way.

5:55 he just described my adulthood and my childhood. Dr Peterson is an amazing man I'm truly in awe of him

Wow. I can only answer yes may be to just one question of those. It's depressing.

When he was talking about the second type of depression, I felt like he knows me personally & was talking about me.

@SuspiriaX

4 жыл бұрын

Antidepressants made me suicidal because I knew I never needed them. I was having a PROBLEM.

@akheelnazimpc

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuspiriaX hope you get better my dude

@SuspiriaX

4 жыл бұрын

@@akheelnazimpc sorry I must've mistaken the two types now. I have the family knockdown thing and not the mental illness. Maybe I responded to the wrong comment.

@akheelnazimpc

4 жыл бұрын

@@SuspiriaX no problem dude. We're all strangers here. Tc

As I'm listening to this I'm in years. For so long and almost everyday I feel like I'm interpreting things wrong and that I can never grasp the truth about myself or anything else. I feel crazy. I grew up in a family with my mom who is manipulative and verbally demeaning. Who makes me feel I can't do anything right and that I'll always need her because I'm incapable of doing it myself. She has this way of making me question everything I do. Anyway this is really hitting home for me in a deep way. I wish I had some more resources to break free from the hurt.

I love this video. He says the things I found out these last months ... great guy!

In the last five minutes Jordan Peterson is talking totally about NARCISSISM...especially in families. A narcissistic discard happening to you will be the biggest wake-up call ever...people LIE bigtime and they don't want what is best for you...THEY WANT WHAT IS BEST FOR THEM. Wanna see this really pan out...inherit or make lots of one thing...MONEY.

@Sockem1223

4 жыл бұрын

Currently recovering from a childhood that revolved around a narcissist. It's always nice to see someone commenting who knows

@nihilistcentraluk442

4 жыл бұрын

@@Sockem1223 I am in my 50s and it took until my early 40s to start a proper recovery from a covert narcissists parent. The narcissist is a wolf in the clothing of a sheep.They are profoundly ill. ALWAYS pay close attention to what they are saying and if you sense something is wrong it is almost certainly because it is.

@ConradProteus

4 жыл бұрын

If you do not love yourself you cannot love others, in life you must be most important person for yourself in order to be happy and posible to make others happy altough we must all find the happynes within

@SuspiriaX

4 жыл бұрын

@Modern Day Kulak eh yea random people on the streets sure. But your parents should care, actually.

I like thinking this way, thinking through reasoning and sometimes people find that off putting which to me is bonkers. I feel empty and as I listened to this I think I probably should go get an anti depressant...

In my opinion he hit the nail on the dot. I vaguely had the same theory (about repression being something that is at first decided consciously, trained through repetition until it runs automatically) however I'm not a professor nor am I a psychology student. That's why its nice to hear that from someone how actually knows what he's talking about. Thanks great video!

Brilliant clinician. So good to be able to benefit from his expertise. Thank you Dr P.

Because this guy is gifted and passionate in his area of expertise, he gets to enjoy his job at a deep level. He gets to enjoy his job because he's making a difference in people's lives, including the lives of his students.

The second person he described reminded me of my friend,the first reminded me of myself We grew apart because I was the only one he could trust,but he made it extremely difficult for me to trust him,so one day I betrayed him.I know it was for his own good,to stop him before he did something he could not come back from.he failed to see it and we drifted apart.we still miss each other but because of the trust issues,our friendship is now ruined.we hardly argue let alone speak to each other now.sounds crazy but I miss arguing with that asshole...he was a pathological liar and was seen as the golden child.praised by my own parents and his. Hope...

Thank you 🙏

So true about unemployment. That destroyed me 15 years ago and it will never recover from it. it shaped my entire life basically.

8:05 Welcome back to "Funny vocabulary with Jordan Peterson" This time our word of the day is Permeable - adjective (of a material or membrane) allowing liquids or gases to pass through it. "a frog's skin is permeable to water"

@ArchTrout

4 жыл бұрын

So clearly at school you were never taught about "semi permeable membranes"?

@skylimitua

4 жыл бұрын

@@ArchTrout I think I slept through it, but it didn't matter in this case because my school was russian

@danielkrajicek5323

4 жыл бұрын

@@skylimitua As a fellow Europian, your comment made me laught and educated me, nice.

@royfr8136

4 жыл бұрын

You have never heard that word before?

"The dole is utterly demoralizing; its chief effect is to turn the unemployed into the unemployable." ~ William Ralph Inge

@Critical_Stinking

4 жыл бұрын

@@frenne_dilley would you like me, as a total n00b, to do complicated brain surgery on you? Don't worry, I'll learn from my mistakes...

@toml2047

4 жыл бұрын

@@frenne_dilley I know it's been a few months but I believe he went to the extreme because you also went to the extreme with your emphasis on the word 'NEVER'. He has a valid point, with certain skilled jobs, lack of training and qualification should disqualify you from that role, especially taking into consideration points such as personal safety and that of others. This applies to many fields and not even just for safety, roles that require driving for example, it isn't practical or cost effective to hire someone who isn't licensed to drive and train then when there is someone already licensed who is available. In the service and hospitality industry, restaurants for example, you generally wouldn't hire a chef with no training or experience because you would run the risk of losing customers through bad food and facing a downturn in business or even health threats such as food poisoning from either poor preparation or incorrect storage of ingredients. For a lot of menial, blue collar jobs, sure training shouldn't disqualify you but the same doesn't hold true to every job, requirements of a role are there for a reason. I could go on and list the various fields of science, engineering, teaching etc. You simply couldn't perform these jobs without adequate prior training and qualification. I appreciate your point and where you're coming from but it's unfortunately not realistic

love you peterson! thanks for the enlightenment truthful insights always.

One of the best speeches he had, in my opinion!

i swear these videos are so helpful

This guy is preventing me from being productive, cause I can't stop watching his videos 🤪

@shawnhampshirehick101

2 жыл бұрын

Astute comment. I enjoyed it.🤔😁👍

@khojanelelala8117

2 жыл бұрын

Go clean your room 😂🤣😂😂😂

@fortnitegameryo200

2 жыл бұрын

Clean your room 🦀

7:33 Every time he gets to this part I start crying ... ☹️🙈😥

Explained my childhood and current situation. I would love to break free.

When he started talking about everything that parents say not bring true I broke down. I’m so far gone. I don’t know how to get back up. Every time I do I get beaten back down. It doesn’t even matter anymore

@Critical_Stinking

4 жыл бұрын

There's always tomorrow. Hard times are character building. Trust me, I know. Chin up, mate.

@Jonassvensson-uv9zd

4 жыл бұрын

it does matter for you since you made an effort to write this comment.

@mt-zf6xp

4 жыл бұрын

Hey, you're not alone. I'm almost certain that I'm going to end up becoming some crazy, homeless guy one day due to my personality defects. I hope you get better and find that thing that gives you purpose.

@user-sg7ro7pt6s

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much for the positive replies guys. I think I got the situation taken care of. I’m definitely not 100% but knowing there’s hope definitely helps. Sometimes I feel like I’ll never be able to overcome the way my brain was trained by my circumstances growing up. But I’m still gonna try. Ik I’m not done w this life quite yet

@erhesganzorig2983

4 жыл бұрын

Life is suffering.So it’s okay if you suffering with depression now.There is nothing wrong with you.So lift up some part from the suffering and keep it, order to make life at least a meaningful and worthy.And yes, when you do that, we will walk with you. :)

Jordan peterson is just out of this world

My family couldn't understand why I was depressed. Everything externally was functioning well, but internally I was going out of my mind. When I said even a lottery win wouldn't make me happy they started to understand my depression and anxiety wasn't linked to any specific thing or situation, but it was within me physically. As JP points out antidepressants and some therapy has helped me greatly.

The voice of reason everyone needs to hear. Thanks!

The thing is, that if you have some or all of the problems he mentioned and you come to realize you can't change them, you get depressed, which then makes it harder to manage your life so you get more depressed...And you see that you are in a vicious circle and your perspective does not let you get out, you don't see a way of this turning out well for you, which pushes you down a spiral of misery

@breh4141

4 жыл бұрын

thanks for the pointless comment

@loginadress898

4 жыл бұрын

@@breh4141 just as pointless as answering to the comment if to do so has no point

@breh4141

4 жыл бұрын

@@loginadress898 very intelligent thanks for another pointless comment

@loginadress898

4 жыл бұрын

Sharing once opinion/experience is not even half as pointless as taking effort on recommenting something you find pointless Also, if you are searching for meaningful things, maybe reading youtube comments isn't the cleverest place to look.

@breh4141

4 жыл бұрын

@@loginadress898 pointless of you to say that

So grateful for my living wage job in New Zealand, keeps me physically and mentally in shape. STAY HARD!

JP has the ability to express my tumbled thoughts, reasons for behaving as I do etc with clarity and focus that I've not encountered before. His students and patients are extremely lucky to have him. Get well soon, Mr Peterson.

Wooooooh this validates my entire life situation. Thought I was alone damnit.

The saddest part of me is to realize I am actually the bad person here. I am a person who fears a lot to lose others, for traumas related to losing since my childhood, but because those fears I hurt others who are close to me, I really love them and I want to spend time with them but when I feel they are not talking for me for days, or just in other stuff, I get scared a lot and I get angry for fear so I hurt others with words. But those people close to me are actually nice people so they feel guilt and they forgive me. I wish I could stop being like this, I feel like I manipulate others to stay close to me for fear of losing them, but then I feel terrible for that, it is a shitty situation when you know that you are not the victim but the victimizer and agressor, and you try to change that but you can't, it is a trash to know you are the villain in your own story when you just want to be a good person.

@beastmasterbg

Жыл бұрын

seems like you have BPD(Borderline Personality Disorder). Research it.

Jordan Peterson, I truly love you man!

amazing!! i’m dealing with job lose right now

Even though I do get a lot out of Jordan Peterson's material, I have seen just about every lecture available before some content started to get reposted, and I felt somewhat hardened that he made it through tough times recently within is own family, I need someone to pull me up just so that his teachings are applicable to a person in my situation. I want to be a part of overcoming the absolute worst. I am not one to give up, I'm still trying to at least survive, improve anything that will stop things from at least getting worse. I feel the calling, I'll keep going, I have nothing else to cling to, but rebuilding my life back from scratch. But I do sense I'm like in that place where I WANT his message to include me, and just not able to detach myself from "the lost cause", "too down to get back up" sensation, still, I am sure there are more people out there who maybe don't see themselves in a position to just make certain things happen as they might feel they could, if not for the deep water they find themselves in. I did stop drinking alcohol though.

I wish Jordan Peterson would revisit this video and tell us what he thinks about depression after his experience

@highenergyv276

Жыл бұрын

He’s saying try everything first , get a job go have fun with friends and if that doesn’t work then use the anti depressants. Those drugs are very dangerous!

Thank you... You explained my life. I’m trying.

I love this guy. I learn so much. I look up stuff he speaks about. Education shall set you free well almost! 🇨🇦❤️

I’m very grateful that through learning from such grate teachers as JP, Ram Dass, Watts, Tolle, Duncan Trussell, etc... I’ve been able to not only see my family’s neuroses but have learned the ability to accept them and still love them for who they are without letting them pass their baggage down to me.

If we look at hell as a necessary opposite to conceptualise heaven, we no longer need a reason for it's symbolisation, because it becomes apparent.

@Mavandor

4 жыл бұрын

@ObzPotato ObzPotato thank you for your lucid elaboration of what you believe to be heaven and hell. However, my observation was of the dynamic between the perceptions of heaven and hell, and not specific imagined instances of either. Perhaps I should've clarified that by referring to heaven and hell as each and everyone's own subjective perception of both. An objective observation of the nature of subjective experience. To perceive good, one must perceive bad. They serve as benchmarks for one another. Thank you for prompting me to elaborate on that - I wasn't exactly in-depth with my prior comment. From what I understand - and correct me if I'm wrong - you're discussing a collective idea of heaven and hell here. Or is it your own personal interpretation? I can't quite tell. Having said that, I don't see how anyone can generally claim that either heaven or hell is more incomprehensible than the other, considering the absolute subjective nature of our imagination. It likely comes down to individual relatability. Even then, eternal bliss is just as unfathomable as eternal suffering, but personal experience (both inner and outer) may predispose us to more relatability of one over the other. Aside from the fact that we're mortal, no matter how privileged or deprived one's earthly life has been, there are intershifting elements of both beauty and horror, and so the mere concept of eternity is unimaginable in itself. Especially since you bring ideas, entities, and material into your interpretation of what hell is, heaven is a similar construct with different, pleasant associations. In this sense, both states/places are a complex couldron of material and inner perceptions, one which the believer yearns (heaven) and one which they do not (hell). If you want to go to heaven, you likely don't want to go to hell. I don't know enough about the original conceptualisations of heaven and hell -- were they created aside one another? Did one come first? I'm dead wood in relation to this matter. However, to know what you want, you need to know what you don't want. And what you don't want may be what you have, in which instance we are living in what we chose to represent hell. Then again, we like elements of what we have, so we likewise chose parts of what we have to constitute heaven. As to the ratio of how much our ideas of heaven and hell are an intermix of inner and outer experience, I don't know. I can't even answer that for my own perceptions of the two, let alone an entire species'. Thanks for pressing my brain in this one.. Thoughts?

@alastor8091

4 жыл бұрын

@ObzPotato neeeeeeeerd. I get you though. Good analysis.

@naleck2922

4 жыл бұрын

True, heaven is known as complete perfection, but hell is not it's opposite, it's its alternative. So the world as we know it could very well be what hell essentially is. Though I hear it has noticeably more fire.

@Hoobyj

4 жыл бұрын

It isn't necessary though, you could just say "When you die you go to heaven to be with god", ascribe no criteria to it, and it would make just as much sense as a merit based afterlife system. This isn't some 'light cannot exist without dark' hypothetical scenario, it is "after life or no afterlife", and "how is that afterlife structured?".

@greenthunder1000

4 жыл бұрын

Big words make you think you’re smart. You basically called heaven and hell ying and yang. Who woulda thought? Discount philosophy student

I feel like my family is kind of like Jordan Petersons example near the end of the video.

As a Psychiatrist, I agree to everything said in this video. Reminded me a lot of what I try to explain to my patients, although I’ve never seen someone put it so clearly.

Wow. The end of this lecture was spot on .You’re a very intelligent man to have recognized this.

Something I've learned with Jordan Peterson is to contemplate the price for inaction! Don't let yourself hide things in the fog! It's always better to think them through because if you don't understand something now, it can only get worse. Inaction leads you to be miserable with yourself. Just don't loose hope in yourself and act in that regard!

I lost it when he said "since even lobsters have it". I know this is a serious topic but his lobster comparisons are just odd, haha

@thighlover408

4 жыл бұрын

Bernhard Waldbrunner i like them it’s a reminder that we are still animals just with more complex thinking

@vbwx

4 жыл бұрын

​@@thighlover408 That's true!

@susim9697

4 жыл бұрын

Read his book. 1st chapter, he explains the seemingly odd connection. (Ps: a lot of evolutionary neuro-biology)

@chuckhoyle1211

4 жыл бұрын

It is his shorthand for saying that there are a lot of human behaviors that predate the human species. We are the product of an evolutionary history that goes all the way back to some of the earliest creatures on the planet. This is a rebuttal of the schools of thought that state that human behavior is a social construct and that if we just change the society, human behavior will change. This is wrong because it is hard-wired in us from a time before we were even human so to say that we have any real control over it is factually incorrect.

@OathBoy_562

4 жыл бұрын

susim Singh they book is amazing

Agree 100% with everything he says, great vid!

What an insightful video once again. Jordan Peterson is in another level, I truly admire him.