The shot of the jeep coming out and then getting a view of the belly couldn't have worked out any better. haha love your videos as always

thank god i watched this before i combined two recovery straps. your trick saved my straps

great tip about the mag in between the snatch straps (the green bags are dampers in case of breakage to prevent missiles) Cheers Rolly

Hi Ronny great vid very informative i have small earthmoving equipment and use snatch straps instead of tow chains and don't even use a run up it's amazing what you can recover without putting stress on anything

Exactly the video to explain what was happening between the straps. Thanks

Great simple instructions that I am sure will need one day. Great work as many over do the video’s

@Jacob Rossi, thanks for the feedback mate. I have had both the MTZ's & the BFG's both were pretty good and had no probs with them, IMO BFG KM2's are slightly better than the Mickey T's in noise and wearing but I found that the MTZ's were more sticky the the road. Hope that helps...

Good video , special for new 4x4 drivers, well done mate!

You own one of the nicest 79 series I have seen

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

Cheers mate :)

ooooh THATS how you do it! PITA to unravel them without any spacer in between. noted!

Well I learned something today about that magazine trick. Thanks!

All your videos are great!

Great tips. Thanks Ronny

Thanks m8 for making this amazing videos.

Excellent demo, thanks!

Great tip. Thank you.

Good information. Thank you!

Good information here , thank you...

Great vid, better than reading about how is done, mor graphical and easy to understand, thanks.

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

enketamin No probs mate, thanks for the feedback...

Great vids mate u deserve way more subs.

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks mate, only been at it with full attention to my channel for 1 year so still early days ;)

Quality video. Thanks for the instructions.

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the feedback Johnny

good job enjoyed

A good knot to know for this would also be the Becket Bend or Sheet bend, it can not only be used for situations where the knot is under immense load and must be easily undone, but can also be used to safely join two ropes of unequal diameter. however, when it comes to webbing the knot must be dressed properly. in any case this will work fine. but you'll definitely need the magazine or bottle to have any luck getting it undone after shock loading it.

the idea with the Magazin is very cool

Now I can make use of that picture magazine in my 4WD

We had a local killed by one of those straps last week. One of the attachment points broke. Good to see you fellows using several dampeners. Almost always both vehicles will be carrying a snatch and so should also have TWO dampeners each (one is near useless). Why not use all of them on the strap. Also, that join - use a overcoat or a tarpaulin instead of the piece of paper.

@christophermichaelson9050

6 жыл бұрын

This is why you should also open the hood while winching; it acts like a shield. It probably wouldn't work so well if being snatched, though LOL.

Great idea. Wonder if it's strong enough to just do the standard pass through interlock. That might be asking too much.

Gracias por tus consejos Ronny aquí usamos un periódico o un trozo de madera, saludos desde Costa Rica g÷)

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

Mauricio Navarro Gómez No probs mate, yeah the news paper might even be better or easier to get out :)

I knew it, them bogans are really good with this "I go inside you, you go inside me" business!

Perfect timing with this video, thanks. My 4x4 club is having a first winter run and I was wandering what would be the proper way to connect two recovery straps together should we need an extension. This brings me to a question, I know that it can snow in Australia's Snowy Mountains ( hence the name of the mountain rage) Does anybody go 4X4'ing to experience snow driving conditions.

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

Yes some do but that's only on the eastern side of Australia and the snowy season is very short if at all sometimes. Here in Western Australia there is no snow at all...

is he Petta Solberg??? some good points given there thanks

where can I get one of them t shirts

Great work as usual Ronny. Can I join a snatch strap to my winch rope to give me extension when winching and can I join a snatch strap to my winch rope which is extended when snatching. You’ve probably covered it somewhere I guess

Hi Ronny, what brand shackles do you use/recommend?

Ronny, what are your thoughts of joining with a soft shackle ?

It's a great way of connecting two strap for sure, But there is a simpler way without having to run from both ends. At kzread.info/dash/bejne/o4ptztRvmKW-eso.htmlm4s - Put red eye over the yellow eye and then thread the yellow eyed strap through the red eye.

I use your method, but I'd say that magazine is almost not thick enough. I use one that's as thick as my wrist. Had a thin one fail one time and was very hard to get apart. I roll and tape two and keep them in my kit.

How would you attach one of those to a small car with no hook? Both the strap and the shackle becomes useless in that situation

Sweet video Ronny thanks, your dads a legend mate. “ I’m ready to roll “ please high five him for me.

nice tip! BTW for those that maybe forgot the magazine you can try a hammer on the knot before a knife. Lay out the knot on a sturdy surface and beat the hell out of it. Like tenderizing a steak it will loosen the fibers of your line and make it much easier to deal with.

@garrisonaw

5 жыл бұрын

By beating on the knot with a hammer, you will severely stress and weaken the fabric in BOTH straps, making them unsafe to use again. If you can't get it loosened up by hand, you're better off -- and safer -- to sacrifice one of the straps by cutting it off.

what was the smaller strap he used to connect the snatch strap to the vehicle being pulled

Cool enjoy the video question if a strap has 20% stretch and you join two of them together do you then have 40% stretch ?

@Skinflaps_Meatslapper

Жыл бұрын

It would have the same percentage of stretch, but the length of stretch has doubled. In other words, if a single 10ft strap has 20% stretch, it would equate to 2ft of stretch. Joining two together is the same as a single 20ft strap with 20% stretch, which equates to 4ft of stretch.

Looks like the Jeep has open diffs, does it have lockers? 3:36 make sure you don't use your Hustler lol.

Hello Ronny Can you use a sand-filled plastic bottle (e.g., Cola) instead of the newspaper and then drain the sand to release the joint? This will make the bottle easy to squeeze and the loops are free again. I'm sorry for the translation (Google Translate) Greetings from Germany Thomas Klemm

@Ronny_Dahl

7 жыл бұрын

I guess you could but I wouldn't fill it to the top otherwise it will become a missile if something went wrong

@KruiserIV

7 жыл бұрын

I think the plastic bottle would fail before the vehicle became unstuck, unless you have access to some very thick plastic bottles with incredibly strong lid threads.

@AztecWarrior69

6 жыл бұрын

KruiserIV I was about to say the same thing. Most plastic bottles, full or not, will not withstand the pressure.

@eron17

6 жыл бұрын

Bottles will cut in the ropes when they break, use something soft. A shoe or flip flop works also.

@leviross9450

6 жыл бұрын

You really can use almost anything. I used a flip flop the other day and it worked lol

Who buys magazines these days? :p I always used newspaper, which I had for starting fires. Never had an issue. And for the brake, I just used an towel type dressing gown. It doubled as my ground mat if I had to get down in the mud etc.

What about joining with a soft shackle?

How about synthetic shackle between ropes. Can you use a tow strap for extension.

@garrisonaw

5 жыл бұрын

Any shackle has the potential to become a projectile if one of the straps breaks. That's why you need to join the straps as shown, and use something soft in the joins - like the magazine, or a rolled up floor mat, or even a rolled up towel. Never use anything solid in the middle of a line of straps. Yes, technically you can use a tow strap for extension, but it won't stretch like a snatch strap, so all you gain is length, but not additional snatching power. And never ever try to snatch a vehicle using only a tow strap. Something will most certainly break.

Interesting demonstration for connecting straps. For me there is a much simpler technique yet it produces the same figure 8 knot connecting both straps: 1. Put loop from strap one through loop of strap two. 2. Put the other end of strap two into loop one that was put through strap two loop. 3. Pull lines together, dress the knot. 4. Add a paper, magazine or the like to the knot.

Have you tried putting one eyelet through the other then using lets say a magazine as a stopper instead of running the whole length through the eyelet

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah I think we have a few times, in the past (not be me however) this method on the video will be better for the strap in load stressing

Good one Ronny, just a question. Could you use a piece of thick pvc or similar? so it doesnt crush like the mag and should slide out easily.

@Jtwizzle

7 жыл бұрын

Yes, or even a good piece of wood.

@blablayakyak1453

7 жыл бұрын

I think the mag or mat like he used is a better choice than wood or PVC because if a strap breaks they are lighter and softer and wouldn't cause as much damage if they were to hit someone or something. The idea is to avoid using things that can become missiles. JMHO

@garrisonaw

5 жыл бұрын

PVC would shatter pretty easily. And a piece of wood (or anything else hard enough to not shatter) would be a potential projectile. The important thing to remember is to NEVER use something solid in the middle of a line of straps.

Great tip, just wondering what is the location of this vid?

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

TenaciousD intro is from Julimar SF and the recovery was filmed at a location near Gnagara pines which requires a DEC permit to gain access (which we have).

a piece of tree branch about 30mm in diameter works great

@eyeofreason

3 ай бұрын

I was wondering if there were good substitutes for the magazine. There are nearly always branches nearby.

does the jeep have gear select options? I thought in another video you said the jeep was an automatic, so was wondering how he's in 2nd gear low? Just wondering what to do in an automatic in this situation and I thought the jeep was auto. Otherwise great video.

@Ronny_Dahl

8 жыл бұрын

+Joe Chitussi He has the option to select 1st - 2nd - 3rd - or drive. selection 2nd it will automatically shift from 1st to 2nd but wont go any higher if that makes sense.

@JoeC92

8 жыл бұрын

Ah ok. Didn't know if it was like a dsg sequential.

Ok what was the green bag things on the straps for?

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

New Generation watch this video for the reasons behind it ;) Snatch Strap Tutorial: kzread.info/dash/bejne/fZeJpsmmg7DOh84.html

You sound like Korg

Can I use a soft shackles to joint two recovery straps? 🪢

@Skinflaps_Meatslapper

Жыл бұрын

Yes, it alleviates having to use a rolled up magazine to get them apart as well. They make all the difference in the world in recovery, I wouldn't want to be without a few in my kit. Just make sure your soft shackle is rated for what you're intending to use it for and you should have no problem at all.

who makes the small strap attached to both the shackles on the jeep?

@Ronny_Dahl

7 жыл бұрын

+SoCal Hillbilly not actually sure of the brand, bought it ages ago but we are due for a new one so when I work it out I will do my best to remember and let you know

@garrisonaw

5 жыл бұрын

Go to Amazon and type in "tree saver strap" in the search box. There are several choices, both in length and strength. I have 6 foot / 20,000 lb and 10 foot / 30,000 lb straps that I use for attaching snatch blocks to trees for pulling ropes. The strongest one I've seen on Amazon is a 10 foot / 43,000 lb strap. There are also some D-Ring shackles on there that are rated for 68,000 lbs (16,000 lb WLL) for attaching the straps to the vehicle. (Addendum: There is a 6 foot strap from Mile Marker that is rated for 50,000 lbs, but the description on Amazon doesn't show the rating. I had to go to Mile Marker's website to find it.)

hows the camera? after it went under the jeep .

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

Yeah all good mate if was a gopro in-cased in the tough housing. Was meant to be hit ;)

I recently heard from a 4WD friend that it is unsafe to use a newspaper rolled up. Why would this be the case?

@christophermichaelson9050

6 жыл бұрын

Was wondering about that too; it seems it would also become a projectile. IDK.

@garrisonaw

5 жыл бұрын

Newsprint is pretty weak material, so if the newspaper was torn in half by the force of the jerk, there could be enough kinetic force applied to the knot itself (because of the two loops suddenly jerking together) to break one of the straps. A magazine is usually made of much heavier paper, and less likely to be torn apart from the force.

Sir, I have been told that it is sometimes unwise to spin tires whilst being recovered. I was told this results in digging deeper and creating more work for the recovery vehicle. Is mud typically the medium you don't want to spin in? Does it matter? Greatly appreciate your feedback and opinion. Your vid on lockers was most informative. Cheers :hi:

@alvaskins

8 жыл бұрын

+Ferm3 You need to start moving so a bit of spinning is going to happen. You want to help the person pulling you out.

Why would you join snatch straps together? Is it just to increase the length?

@Ronny_Dahl

9 жыл бұрын

Yes, to increase the length. There has been more than a few times we have used 3-4 all joined together. But joining two is pretty common for us when we are out there.

@Mattcamel51

8 жыл бұрын

+Ronny Dahl (4 Wheeling in W.A.) What is the benefit of increasing length? To have more stretch and energy to yank out the stuck car?

@jakuszkowiak

8 жыл бұрын

Matt V My guess is that if you don't have a snatch strap that is long enough, but have multiple shorter ones. Or perhaps they simply don't make snatch straps longer than a certain length.

@overboostedgarage8744

8 жыл бұрын

+Matt V (Camel51) in some situations where you can't get close to the vehicle that is stuck you might need to put 2 together. Or just to get farther from the stuck vehicle where you can get better grip to pull the vehicle out.

If you did it with the D ring wouldn't it just fall to the ground because the rope doesn't hold energy

@brianjones1569

7 жыл бұрын

Reid Taylor i think its like a sling shot at that point, if only one strap breaks. but i wonder if you use those line dampner things he hangs on the strap would help.

@garrisonaw

5 жыл бұрын

@@brianjones1569 First, you should always use the line dampeners. They will slow down the recoil of a snapped strap. Yes, they would help, but a shackle (or any other solid object, like a block of wood, as someone else suggested) is heavy enough that -- as you say -- it would be like a sling shot, and the weight of the object would be enough to overpower the line dampeners.

@garrisonaw

5 жыл бұрын

@ike fun "nobody around here understand physics" One person is a far cry from "nobody", and just because they don't know how a snatch strap works doesn't mean they don't understand physics.

Oh, No! Not the 4WD Action mag..... :-)

Mag good idea You kangaroos got stuck going downhill in sand. Lmfao.

@garrisonaw

5 жыл бұрын

Apparently you've never driven in sand like that. It's pretty easy to get stuck.

I gotta disagree with this whole video. The way you joined those straps is no better than a water knot. The best way you could have joined the straps is the bow shackle, IF you want to retain 100% of the strap rating. Best way would be a figure 8 knot.

@RambunctiousHamster

Жыл бұрын

Did you not even watch the video? Or are you trying to troll? You never want to use a bow shackle as it could kill someone if the strap breaks, this very thing has killed dozens of people. And a figure 8 knot would never come apart after hard snatching. I've had to cut my rope after a hard fall while rock climbing with the figure 8. Now imagine 20x that stress being put on a rope, you'd have no chance in hell. This videos method is by far the best option I've seen.

For something like that the correct way would be using a kinetic rope, not tow straps. The straps y'all are using are for towing a vehicle not jerking on one. 🤦🏼‍♂️

@nohandle1

5 жыл бұрын

Snatch straps work the same as kinetic ropes. The extension strap (the green one in the video) doesnt stretch but the brown one does - like a kinetic rope.

@garrisonaw

5 жыл бұрын

You can purchase either tow straps (static) or snatch/recovery straps (kinetic). Make sure you know what you're buying and what you're using out in the field.

@bskarpa

5 жыл бұрын

I've never heard them called snatch straps. I figured it was just a name the Aussie's used.

@garrisonaw

5 жыл бұрын

Bobby S Most places in the States I hear them called recovery straps, but a lot of the guys who do the Hummer snow runs around here do call them snatch straps. I’ve even heard them called jerk straps. You probably know what type you have in your vehicle, but if you’re ever unsure which kind of strap it is, assume it’s a static tow strap. You can always use a kinetic strap as a tow strap, but if you assume that it’s a snatch strap, and you jerk on what turns out to be a static tow strap, something is definitely going to break. If you’re lucky, it’ll just be the strap. Which makes it critical to always use the line dampeners (those green bags draped over the straps) whenever you are pulling a vehicle. And if you don’t have any real line dampeners, you can use a heavy jacket or blanket, and you should always have at least two line dampeners, even on a short strap or rope. (Yeah, I’m sure you already knew most of that, but I figure it never hurts to say it again for anyone who doesn’t know.)

@bskarpa

5 жыл бұрын

@@garrisonaw oh yeah for sure. I know growing up we never used any kind of dampener when winching or pulling and we also used regular cheap tow straps vs kinetic ones. I've learned a lot over the yes lol but you always learn something new. Thanks! Plus a lot of that you said could help tons of others. I appreciate it.