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When John says “there are some liberals that never imagine anyone else could not think like them”, he is so right, and he’s not the first person to say that. What I like about John saying it is that he’s the first liberal I’ve heard who noticed it! Many conservatives say the exact same thing about liberals. Many liberals think that anyone who doesn’t agree with them are either incredibly stupid, utterly uninformed, dishonest, or just plain evil. Simply for not thinking and believing as they do.

@abraxasjinx5207

Жыл бұрын

He is specifically saying he doesn't identify as a liberal, yet you call him one.

@nomanejane5766

11 ай бұрын

The thing can be said about people on the right, yall think all liberals are coastal elites, stuck up & rich, or that they hate America and are all sexual deviants

@electrictroy2010

9 ай бұрын

@abraxasjinx5207 (1) he specifically says “we liberals” so obviously he identifies as such. (2) He admitted he committed several felonies by voting multiple times using fake IDs. Not something to admire .

@jessicam5712

6 ай бұрын

It's true, and I think they have good intentions but things have become so polarized and Republicans do things that drive me crazy too, like believing that they're the only ones that love this country and if you're a democrat you hate America, it's almost as if Republicans want things as they were and Democrats want to drag us into the future as fast as possible. And for those of us in the middle there's no representation anymore.

@michaelbodalski

5 ай бұрын

@@electrictroy2010 There was an interesting caveat there, he voted as people he knew, who also knew he was voting as them. That's the basis of a representational government. It was illegal, but was it immoral? If it was immoral, is representational democracy moral? As a thought experiment, I like the idea that you can hand off your vote to someone you trust to do the "dirty work".

"It might go back unfortunately" Oh how true this statement is

@uuquuuquu5235

10 ай бұрын

And now it's flipped one more time

This is how to be politically smart. Notice that by not indulging opinions that just repeat his beliefs back to him, he avoids being a partisan bore. Instead he's just a smart man who judges people individually.

Lol it's just so funny to read some of these comments. 98% of the postings here don't even understand (or know) the irony of John Water's remarks. The dude speaks in coded satire. he's brilliant.

@rayandrews6519

10 жыл бұрын

Yes you are so right. That code you speak of is called gibberish. It is the universal code of illogical liberals everywhere.

@alfcab

10 жыл бұрын

Ray Andrews Interesting. So which part of what he said here did you have difficulty understanding?

@PeanutsAssorted

8 жыл бұрын

+Alfredo C Most likely the parts that had words bigger than 5 letters

@rhijulbec1

6 жыл бұрын

KenyanTexan I adore him! The way he laughs at everything is so adorable! He is incredulous at the same things that most take so gawddamn seriously. If he's speaking "gibberish" as some cretin implied, my only thought is "Play on!" I enjoyed your comment very much. Jenn 💖 (an old lady Canuck) 😂

This is so nebulous and yet, so insightful at the same time. I watched it twice. I love learning about how other people think. I really admire John Waters' mind.

"He isn't trying to do anything except make a name for himself." You just described every politician there ever was and ever will be.

John Waters, one of the greater independent thinkers of our times....and one of the most rational as well. When did we let our opposition to those who don't think like us turn into hate? A great man, director and all around human being with some big wisdom.

As a conservative I respect what he had to say, and I agree with him. You should always try your hardest to understand your oppositions opinions, and be open to them being right. It’s not always black and white.

@methos-ey9nf

3 жыл бұрын

But do you practice what you preach?

@fredericgadoury6610

3 жыл бұрын

I don’t know if your avatar pic is yourself but you seem kinda young. I’m gonna tell you this. The whole premise of conservatives is actually not understanding the opposition. That’s why every religious group fall there. That’s why conservatives preach old principles and fear the change.

@JM-pm3ob

3 жыл бұрын

@@fredericgadoury6610 the hypocrisy of this lmao

@weirdlanguageguy

3 жыл бұрын

@@fredericgadoury6610 What does preaching old principles have to do with not understanding the opposition?

@erikw3105

3 жыл бұрын

@@fredericgadoury6610 I'm a young conservative and I know leftist positions well, I just disagree with their answers. I'm sure there are conservatives who don't know leftist arguments (and there are definitely conservatives who don't even understand conservatism!)...but the same is true for leftists too. I've met a lot of leftists who just caricature conservatives, but then again, the same is true for conservatives too. We should learn what we believe and what other people believe - it makes us all better :) understanding is key

A couple years back I had a compound fracture in my arm after a high school sports accident. After all was said and done (transportation by ambulance, the ER visit and operation, and the prescription pills we had to pay for) it cost somewhere on the order of $6000. That's a lot of money. If you knew what a compound fracture is, you'd understand why no one should deserve to not have that fixed. And if we didn't have insurance we couldn't have afforded it.

John is the ideal. He is exactly the kind of guy that I would want to date. Unfortunately, there aren't enough guys out there like him.

"I have faith in my own opinion" Brilliant!

"if you cant love it, don't have it, cause it will grow up and kill us" - my thoughts exactly

I laugh and feel good every time I look at this wonderful grin!

i think it's much more important to try to understand how other people are thinking and why they think that way not to fight them or learn how to counter their ideas but so you can better understand and better your own ideas and sometimes help develop theirs even the most misguided beliefs have some degree of merit.

He is so likable

i love that he respectfully disagrees with people :) i know that i do have issues ( as a libertarian/independent/ liberal?) with discovering that other people disagree. I am young though so i am still trying to read things/look at things created by people who disagree with me in small ways & drastic ones. It really is eye opening to try to reconcile why people believe what they do & why (even i am sometimes) they are so set in their views/beliefs/opinions/etc

I saw you today in Provincetown. I waved. You smiled.

"There are some liberals who could never imagine someone could disagree with them". With the word some being a euphemism for "99.9% of them".

@1980futureclone

9 жыл бұрын

Liberal definition- open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values. So Galileo, Descartes, Jenner, Heisenberg, Einstein, Debussy, Shakespeare, Copernicus, Christ... it's a good thing we had all those people that were liberal; that 99.9% of people disagreed with!

@TheTourmaline57

7 жыл бұрын

you flatter yourself.todays liberals are more interested in legalizing weed. Living at home and being lifelong societal moochers. Not trailblazers or geniuses.

@Bob5mith

6 жыл бұрын

"Liberal definition- open to new behavior or opinions and willing to discard traditional values." Yes, Chinese liberals are capitalists and their conservatives are communists. American conservatives are classic liberals who value individual liberty and equal opportunity. American liberals are fascist-lite authoritarians who want to regulate everything, except immigration for some reason. It just means you want to change things. It doesn't mean the changes you want are necessarily better.

@obscure4847

6 жыл бұрын

Nah

@crescentfreshbret

5 жыл бұрын

I’m a liberal, and the fact that someone could disagree with me has always been perfectly clear to me. There’s ALWAYS going to be people who disagree with you no matter what your views are, and the fact that that’s implausible to some people makes no sense to me.

I wish I could subscribe to this channel multiple times, just so that this channel can gather enough money to invite more people onto this show.

Finally... a video on youtube about politics that makes sense!

419dman, I am a wellsite geologist in the Bakken Formation in North Dakota. There are several safety steps involved in fracking. Up here, we drill 2000 feet and then put cement in the bottom of the hole. This makes a liquidproof seal between the surface and any surface water. We then drill another 6000 feet of vertical hole, then drill a curved hole, with the vertical depth ending around 10,000 feet then cement again before drilling an additional 10,000 feet of horizontal wellbore.

Remember this the next time someone says there's no voter fraud.

That's part of the problem. Both sides tend to create strawmen to argue and discuss with. I do not oppose Obamacare because I hate poor people and don't want them to have health care. I oppose Obamacare because I think it continues to profit the same corporations that are in bed with government in regards to health care, and will only make the existing system worse. The sad part is neither side can seem to have a civil discussion with people who disagree with them without resorting to strawmen.

I'd love to see John Lydon and John Waters talk about how they accosted the 70's with movies and music, how and why the will to change and be more colorful and creative in the 80's, and what they see as revolutionary today, if anything? And/or what they'd like to see happen to either shake things up, or smarten people up. Call it 'Rotten Waters' or something, and it could jam the internet momentarily.

John is so charismatic and like-able.. it seems like he was always in the ether like somehow I’ve known who he is since I was a child and I don’t even know why... probably the simpsons

I was in DC when it was being voted on. There were thousands of protesters. Hell, they even had a concert.

Paul Avery, I don't know if you know, but the government prolonged the depression by like 12 years. The only reason they can be accredited with fixing the economy is because of WWII. 100% employment is easy when half the country is at war and the other half is building tanks.

Once the well is cased, the wellbore is completely sealed off from any contaminations between the crude and water formations. The sole reason we cement at the 2,000 foot mark is that no surface water is lower than that point. By cementing above and below it, there is no way contamination can occur.

Agreed. As soon as Sports Illustrated gets back to me about being the oil boy for their swimsuit models, I'll be quitting my current job.

I also put the "I believe" in there for that exact reason: I was simply suggesting it.

This is one of the more moderate videos on this channel and people from both sides are getting butthurt about it. Way to disappoint me again, world.

@rayandrews6519

10 жыл бұрын

Quick,,, everyone hide the rope.

@obscure4847

6 жыл бұрын

Agree

I am apart of the poor, I grew up behind a drive thru liquor store off Lem Turner in Jacksonville FL. I went to college, no loans or grants, just scholarships and now I live in a nice part of town. Ever since I took my first Economics class in high school, I've turned my back on the Democrats (I used to be a socialist Dem) and lived by libertarian principals and its taken me farther than expected.

I'm one of those 'poor people' (I make @ 40 cents more than minimum wage) and, thanks to Obamacare, I am now having my hours cut back so the company doesn't have to give me health care. So not only do I not get the health care but now I I go from @ 30 hours a week to 20. The company will probably have to hire more part time workers. Which reduces unemployment. Food for thought.

Actually, the CBO predicts that the health care overhaul will reduce rather than increase deficits, even FOX News has an article about this on their site. But still, getting closer to universal healthcare is a necessity, I'm glad we're taking steps sooner rather than later.

I completely disagree with this. Its simple arithmetic. Calculate the average cost per person's healthcare and spread that across the masses. Done. The problem is, this is how its already done because we don't reject people with life threatening emergencies at the ER. Whats worse is that uninsured people can't afford preventative medicine which is much cheaper than ANY service at the ER. My epindectamy cost 20k. If I didn't have insurance, YOU would have paid the bill

Ah. It's really foreign for me to wrap my head around the business aspect. I understand, now. Thank you and cheers

Now I realized more then ever. It’s all about setting term limits. It’s not about right vs left. It’s about people who don’t do nothing or make matters worse that remain in congress. In any other job, you would get fired but in congress, that’s very hard to make happen. As we have witnessed in recent times. People who say let’s get rid of both need to look at the history of right and left. And from both sides of the equation rather then just reading books done by left-leaning people and books done by right-leaning people. Considering that the right and left, have a different way of coming to the same conclusion and even understanding how they got to that conclusion. When you understand both sides, you get a feel of America and why matters are the way they are. Anyway many individuals in congress are petty children getting back at each other. Get rid of the children and starting electing adults who take effective actions and measures for this country and who are generally interested in coming together bipartisan more often then not.

sounds like you need to get socialized medicine so that no matter how few hours your boss gives you, you will still be able to get health care.

As a non Liberal (nor Conservative) I appreciate Johns comments. Come on, the point here is to not take your convictions as that- unchangeable positions.

Burke was a conservative, his plan was to move slowly away from monarchy. He wanted change, but thought it should be orderly and led from the top. His plans were mostly thought out in reaction to liberals and proto-socialists; thinking that their change was too radical. Burke wanted to work with the monarchies to transition to constitutional monarchies, fearing a total collapse like was after the French Revolution.He was not in favor of the liberal way America drastically changed government

See what happens when you play with a permanent sharpie? Three seconds of fun at 12 and a lifetime of a sharpie stash

His movies make me feel normal.

I can respect people who can respect other peoples opinions

That may be so, but his argument still contradicts itself. He says that people who are more productive should get more care, but if prices stay high, then even those people won't afford healthcare.

A. If you went to a hospital they (by law) would have to treat you, regardless of the ability to pay. B. Whatever happened to neighbors and communities looking out for each other? Weather or not people have insurance isn't the sad part. The sad part is you have to rely on somebody you have never met deciding what you are entitled to.

I stand corrected, the total cost of the Iraq and Afghan wars is now around $4 trillion. Reform might cost $1.5 trillion to begin with, but public healthcare is clearly a sustainable option. All of Europe and Canada has had public healthcare options for more than 50 years. Recent crises only stem from massive investment in the US by European countries, causing the entire eurozone to spiral downwards.

John Waters

That's why I am glad I live in Canada. Sure, we have wait times that can be quite long, but if it's an emergency, you just come to the hospital and get fixed up....NO BILL. We do have to pay for things like medication, or ambulance, depending on whether you have added coverage. But everyone can just go and get treated without losing your house. I don't understand why the US thinks this system is so wrong? Our economy, while sluggish, is not in the toilet. And it's not commie. Hope the arm's ok!

I drew a line like that when I went to the shop the other day because I'd had a 'lip treatment'. It is very annoying to get your mouth suddenly looking different no matter how old you are. Once or twice I have put a lot of foundation over it. No-one reacts oddly. But maybe they phone the doctor instead.

What you meant to say was "No country has ever taken care of ALL its social needs through charity." Voluntary social & cultural programs accomplish an enormous amount of work in the US and are capable of even more. 64% of Americans donate to non-profits, according to the World Giving Index. The fact that it doesn't cover ALL the nation's programs is only justification for the gov't covering the remainder, not ALL social programs. Defense is not a social program, so that's not relevant here.

It really sucks not being republican or democrat in the USA.

It's a catch-22 - Big Gov't creates problems in the US that can only be fixed by Bigger Gov't. It's a disincentive for citizens to be self-sufficient, which encourages mooching on welfare, lower productivity, and less voluntary giving. I'm all for gov't being there as safety net for the elderly, handicapped, etc, but not for micromanaging every aspect of existence. If medical costs are too high, they should change the system to reduce those costs, not coerce citizens to buy insurance.

I couldn't imagine if there was no minimum wage.. so many companies would be paying as little as possible. Most industrialized nations(even most third world countries) have a minimum wage. Imagine what this country would be like without OSHA? It would be so dangerous to work everywhere. Anyone who is against minimum wage and OSHA aren't really American.

I'd argue (as a free-thinker and not republican nor democrat) that those programs work at a state level better than a federal level. Many of the countries that these programs work have smaller populations than some US cities. That HAS to be taken into account! Give the states more rights to vote on what the want. At the same time regulate it somewhat federally. The US IS too big for federal socialism, but not state size socialism. Let the states that want it pay for it themselves.

There is no ban on culture and religion in public places. Compulsory favoritism of one religion over another is the question at hand. If a child were to silently pray in school in a way that didn't disrupt the learning process he or she wouldn't be stopped. On the other hand, if he broke out his prayer mat, and incense sconces and insisted that the rest of the students do the same, there would be problems.

You know what the beautiful thing is about scam artists? You can reject the scam. Insurance Companies aren't supposed to be a public service. They are a business and they need to make profit to survive. You pay an extra price so that they will give you the extra money you need when you need it. The risk is mutual, if you don't like the insurance policies of one company then move to another. Healthcare is only a factor of why an economy is strong or not.

The federal budget alone is 24% of GDP (up from 4% in 1930 and 11% after the New Deal). You might say receipts are 20% of the private GDP, but those enormous deficits have to be counted somewhere. State and local budgets are another 5-10% of each state's GDP. And none of that includes sectors of the private economy that exist solely to slog through millions of government regulations for compliance, loopholes, etc. It may not be 50% yet, but it's closer to 50 than to 14.

If a well used for harvesting water is made probably it does not become poisoned because of fracking. In fact many wells that are build incorrectly start becoming poisonous even without fracking near them.

It takes a really superficial understanding of politics and the workings of the world to think Obama is doing a good job, or that he's a victim of the mess inherited from the Bush Administration. Typically, the people who think this way are those who live their lives as usual and are dependent on reports from mainstream media (or from friends & family who watch mainstream media) to paint a picture of what's going on in politics. These people don't dig below the surface to see what mainstream media isn't reporting on. I don't blame them, though. I personally, hate digging below the surface. I just want to live my life. However, I have learned that, if we don't put the time & effort into digging below the surface (at least occasionally), very bad things will happen as a result, and evil things will be done in our name. Obama is either a corrupt murderous scumbag, or he's doing the will of corrupt murderous scumbags. If you're wonder why I say this, you should start by researching the fact that he renewed the Bush Administration's Patriot Act when he had absolutely no obligation to do so. The Patriot Act would have expired but he personally chose to keep it alive & well. Also look at how much of mainstream media reported on him doing this extraordinary thing (virtually none). After you've researched that subject, continue on that path. Check out how the Obama Administration blocked an investigation of Bush Administration torture, and the many other actions which clearly indicate that this administration is executing the same agenda the Bush Administration was executing.

I think this is an odd title for the video!

Actually, in the 1700 and 1800s 'liberal' referred to people who wanted small government and maximum freedom, and ideology that today is called 'libertarian'. 'conservative' were people who wanted to change slowly from the Old World governments. That was in America. Left and right came from the French, where on the left sat Jacobins who wanted to use force to make people 'equal' and the pro-constitutional monarchist sat on the right. The Jacobins were proto-socialists, not 'liberal'

Where in the Constitution does it say that the govt. can't be involved in religon? Separation of church and state was a concept articulated by Thomas Jefferson in a private letter, and the entire premise behind that concept was to prevent a religous ruling class. This quote should help: "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof". Banning anything religous from govt. buildings "prohibits the free exercise thereof".

Wow John, I would love to sit down to coffee with you

"...for without monarchy in England, most certainly we never can enjoy either peace or liberty." - Edmond Burke, "A Letter to a Member of the National Assembly (of France)", May 1791

This needs to be revisited. Would not be surprised to hear his thoughts on the matter have evolved

It's not a failure, if the original plan was to link 37 computers. That's called a 'Success'. The fact that the government even allowed the privatization which made it into a success is also not a failure - that's 'Insight'. If we are counting failures as opportunities that aren't immediately capitalized on, then every single person, company, gov. entity and organization is a failure in those eyes. I don't think that's a very healthy attitude to have.

This guy is a genius and his loss is the worlds loss.

@electrictroy2010

9 ай бұрын

@perydwyn HIS LOSS? He’s not dead dumbas

The problem is that you equate wealth with productivity. The most productive people are the ones who do the most work, not the ones who manage it. So to ensure long lifespans of productive people, the workers should get more healthcare than the managers.

Many of the reasons for the high US med. costs aren't related to it being a private system, like our higher rate of obesity (and thus more chronic conditions), the higher number of people who don't pay (like illegal immigrants, etc), our higher level of medical research & development (which is generally a good thing), and the fact that our culture wants a pill for every little malady.

Read newspapers and news of viewpoints you don't subscribe to...

So at 1:28, he is talking less about breaking windows in 1:37, and having something more along the lines of a 'Quiet Riot'?

So in other words, major parties in America do not matter, and even if you disagree a lot with another person, if you talk with them long enough in a calm and objective manner, you'll soon find that you have a lot in common. Praise be to John Waters!

I like this because he and I have the exact same opinions on everything regarding the political atmosphere of today, except our parties are opposite.

Except he's referring to Republican policy, not stereotypes.

id say that large families are a very controlable factor. along with other things such as buying things that arent neccesary such as phone tv and internet service. hell even electricity is only required for an extremly small amount of people

I was simply suggesting that if you don't like how things are being run, you don't have to live here. If things get too "right wing" for me, Canada is just a plane ride away. People always told me "if you don't like it, leave" but then I realize.. I can! I enjoy the way things are now, with the EPA, OSHA, etc and a minimum wage.

Milo Yiannopoulos is the John Waters of our generation. He even has some of the same mannerisms.

Because they rate the healthcare systems by how many people are covered, not by the quality of coverage.

give one example where adding more regulation and overhead has caused the process to require less work for the same output

Rioting and breaking windows is not a hyperbole. Some people actually do those things. What you meant to say is: John Waters is just lying in order to paint republicans in a bad way.

That government was a Monarchy. It also committed major atrocities. It also existed long ago. I'm all for freedom, but let's find it by looking forward, not back.

It's reasonable to argue that marriage actually isn't a religious institution. For a long time, marriage has had significant impacts on life. Lots of laws have been involved with marriage for a long time. And arguments involving the *origin* of marriage are also silly, because lots of things ended up different from how they originated. Languages, for example. Or hell, law itself.

Some things shouldn't be privatized.

1st off I said "Likely" of coarse my info is largely anecdotal, every wealthy person I have known was unethical, My ex-boss rehired an employee who was caught red handed and fired for committing bank fraud, the boss hired him back and told me "We will make more money with him then we will lose if we get caught." He also told me stories of illegal / unethical dealings he had with several fortune 500 billionairess.

What? Michael Newdow challenged it but it didn't the case was thrown out. It still is in the pledge.

umm how about both defense spending and welfare? firstly. Most of our money goes to entitlements, approximately 60% (give or take 10%). In fact! we could eliminate all of our defense spending and still have a budget deficit. crazy stuff.

No you couldn't have afforded it, but you would have been treated in any case. The law requires it, and it would be the only morally justifiable option for medical personnel, and for society in general. Poor people do get treated - my own sister who was a drunk spent weeks at a time in the charity hospital after going on a bender, and was well-treated. Of course, those of us who work and pay taxes pay for it, but it gets done.

Removal of really, really old Ten Commandments plaques from public places because.....why? Were they in the way of a new Picasso painting? No. They were deemed "unsuitable for public display" not because of their message, but because they were based in religon. Not murdering, stealing and lying seems to be the message to send in a courthouse, right? And kids praying over their lunch doesn't seem to me to be something that could effect their learning process.

He is so smart

i was ready to roll my eyes at the 50/50 stuff till he circled it back to how he navigates as someone with his own opinions. if you put that observation into the context of someone who wants things to be shaken up and to learn from the opposition it comes off as more grounded and less fence sitty.

And workers are incapable of intelligence and problem solving? Workers don't know how to ship goods? You really have no faith in these people. The manager is a job that came around during the industrial revolution and his job was to make the workflow efficient, not to ship and sell. Shipping is the job of a postal worker and selling is the job of a vendor - both labor postions. Without managers items would simply get made at a slower pace, like it did pre-industrial revolution.

No. Read the post I'm responding too. He makes NO mention of policy. None at all.

If he thinks the health care bill makes it so that "poor people can have health care", he's in space.

But with the distribution of wealth such as it is, a large portion of the people who pass the no work threshold exceed it significantly. Plus, the effect is still real enough whether they have to work less or not at all. There's a definite sweet spot for productivity in second and third generation money. If only it was easy to find and exploit.

John, Shirley Chisholm represented a New York congressional district.

@rodrigorodrigo1230

3 жыл бұрын

she was also a presidential candidate in 1972

You make the case for having a public option, which would not be governed by the need to make a profit.

i have two cars, a house, a motorcycle, all my kids have an braces and are immunized, I have a 1 year supply of food stored for my family. And I have quality healthcare from a family doctor. Not more me at all :) That and I give money to the idaho food bank every month. I think I'm good ;)

I do not think this is entirely true. For example, China has over five times the population of US, yet US produces over twice as much as China. It is not because we work more hours or even harder. It's because we invest in human capital and know delegate human capital via management and corporate systems. It's not that the managers are more important than the workers, or the other way around; it's that both are important. Managers only get paid more because they require more qualifications.

Or you could say it like: The government should be a service to the people. Taking care of its needs for education, daycare, helathcare, pension etc. so you can focus on what gives your own life meaning, and be a productive member of society, and feel more safe. (almost said "a productive worker", but that sounds to much like east europe a few decades ago :) Basicly its a social democratic model, and it has shown its worth in scandinavia. High wealth, health, security. Low crime & corruption.