I love this! Nothing comes before Christ! The things we think we need now here in earth our minds don't even think about!

@antispectral5018

3 ай бұрын

Can you translate this to English?

Isaiah 65 verse 23: "They will not labor in vain nor bring forth for trouble; for they are the seed of the blessed of the Lord and their offspring with them." Now... according to most Christian commentaries I have read, the only marriages and births in the Kingdom of heaven are to the survivors of the tribulation and that is only in the 1000 year kingdom of Jesus before Satan is loosed from the bottomless pit. Remember that he deceives and brings some of those people to the lake of fire with him! I would call both being deceived and cast into the lake of fire "trouble." In order for Isaiah 65 verse 23 to be correct, marriages and births would have to return to what they were in Eden, at least that's the way I see it. And I think this is what Jesus meant when He told the Sadducees that they "do not know the scriptures or the power of God." Isaiah 9 verse 7: "...Of the increase of His government and peace there will be no end." To me, this sounds like Jesus' Kingdom will be eternally expanding; and that most likely means bringing life to the universe. The universe is infinite. God is infinite in His creation. God is also "not the God of the dead, but of the living." Currently, the universe does not have life. I think that saying that there will literally be no more marriage at the resurrection is severely limiting God. I do not think that is really what Jesus meant, for reasons I have already gone into. Remember, "all things are possible with God"; and "with God nothing shall be impossible"; and this is from the angel who was talking to Mary in Luke 1 about Elisabeth, who was 6 months pregnant with John the Baptist and had been barren! This is just a little bit of the scriptural evidence I have found.

Some believe that in heaven husband and wife relationship will cease altogether, which means we will be singles or even will all be unisex; I am not sure of that. But what about new earth? Would there be husband and wife relationship? Or would we remain singles or even be unisex for ever? As for myself, I believe that on new earth none of us will be alone but will enjoy husband and wife relationship; and those who are not married in this world, will be married in heaven, for the following reasons: 1. In the beginning ‘God created man in his own image, in the image of God he created him; male and female he created them’ (Genesis 1:27) and ‘therefore a man leaves his father and his mother and cleaves to his wife, and they become one flesh,’ (Genesis 2:24; Ephesians 5:31) and ‘what therefore God has joined together, let not man put asunder.’ (Mark 10:9) 2. God said, ‘…It is not good that the man should be alone; I will make him an help meet for him.' 3. The Scriptures tell us that ‘for when they shall rise from the dead, they neither marry, nor are given in marriage; but are as the angels which are in heaven’ (Mark 12:25) and ‘…the sons of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are counted worthy to attain that age, and the resurrection from the dead, neither marry nor are given in marriage; nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels and are sons of God, being sons of the resurrection’ (Luke 20:34-36) By recounting a story to Jesus, the Sadducees asked Him if would be marriage in heaven, which of course we all know was a trap question. But we need to look at least to two aspects here: 1. What marriage did the Sadducees refer to?; and 2. What did Luke mean by, ‘nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels’ I am sure we all agree up to this point that in the Scriptures are two marriages: 1. God instituted and ordained marriage, and 2. Levirate (or Levitical) marriage. But the question is, which marriage did the Sadducees refer to? There is no doubt in my mind that the Sadducees referred to the Levirate marriage and not to the marriage instituted and ordained by God in the very beginning. I am sure we all know what marriage God has instituted and ordained at creation, but what is the Levirate marriage? Let’s read Deuteronomy 25:5-10: ‘5 If brethren dwell together, and one of them die, and have no child, the wife of the dead shall not marry without unto a stranger: her husband's brother shall go in unto her, and take her to him to wife, and perform the duty of an husband's brother unto her. 6 And it shall be, that the firstborn which she beareth shall succeed in the name of his brother which is dead, that his name be not put out of Israel. 7 And if the man like not to take his brother's wife, then let his brother's wife go up to the gate unto the elders, and say, My husband's brother refuseth to raise up unto his brother a name in Israel, he will not perform the duty of my husband's brother. 8 Then the elders of his city shall call him, and speak unto him: and if he stand to it, and say, I like not to take her; 9 Then shall his brother's wife come unto him in the presence of the elders, and loose his shoe from off his foot, and spit in his face, and shall answer and say, So shall it be done unto that man that will not build up his brother's house. 10 And his name shall be called in Israel, The house of him that hath his shoe loosed.’ (Please read also Ruth chapters 3 and 4, which also refer to the Levirate marriage.) From the above Scriptures we can see what the Levirate marriage is. The Webster dictionary defines Levirate marriage as follows: ‘the sometimes compulsory marriage of a widow to a brother of her deceased husband www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/levirate Without getting any deeper, for the sake of space and time, in the Old Testament (OT) the Levirate marriage became also a contractual marriage where woman were used (if not abused,) if I may say, forced to marry the bridegroom. Marriages in the OT were generally ‘arranged’ by the father of the bridegroom and bride, or ‘contracted’ marriage, if you please, where the bride had no choice or saying but to marry the bridegroom which, sadly, in some countries even today is still practised. Now, if we agree that the Sadducees were referring to the Levirate marriage; then, yes, this kind of marriage WILL NO longer be in heaven. God’s instituted and ordained marriage is not a contractual marriage but a union of two souls in flesh and mind, and what God joint together let no man separate. Luke gave us more insight, ‘nor can they die anymore, for they are equal to the angels.’ So, we will be like angels who never die; therefore, there will be no need to remarry as marriages will last for ever. Another thing, in Exodus chapter 20 are Ten Commandments, which we all know of to be eternal, however, two of them specifically deal with marriage, the seventh: commit no adultery and the first part of the tenth, do not covet your neighbour’s wife. Now, if these two commandments are eternal as the other eight, the question is, what is their purpose if on new earth is no husband and wife relationship? If they were temporary for this earth only till it would be populated, then, surely they would have been placed aside in the Ark of the Covenant together with all the ceremonial laws which we know were pointing to Christ’s sacrificial death on the Cross, but it is not the case. Also, after the end of this controversy, between good and evil, Eden will be restored on earth and life will resume from where it had ceased (or suspended, if you please) at the fall; therefore, it safe to believe that husband and wife relationship will continue on new earth. I find it difficult to believe that God will abolish the very marriage (husband and wife) relationship He instituted, ordained and pronounced to be ‘very good.’ If that were to be true, the implication would be so great that would terribly grieve all His created beings throughout the whole universe. Let us also look at Adam. Adam loved so much his wife Eve that he even renounced his eternal life, so to speak, as he just could not imagine himself without her, whom he called ‘woman,’ as ‘this is now bone of my bones, and flesh of my flesh,’ he said (Genesis 2:23.) When Eve ate of the forbidden tree and offered the fruit to Adam, I believe he went through a great agony as he knew the consequences and hated to think that he is going to be separated from her. To think or believe that God will destroy that wonderful relationship He Himself created and pronounced to be ‘very good,’ which perhaps is the most complexly designed part of the anatomy of our human body that interconnects our whole being in such a way, in my view, is perhaps wrong. I am not saying I am right and none should accept my conclusion; but from my studies, this is what I can conclude. But there is so much more to it, therefore I would encourage anyone to study it.

@matthewstenzel4513

6 жыл бұрын

I agree with what you said. We don't know if God will destroy the relationships or not. No matter what happens, we will still love whoever we were married to on Earth when we see them in Heaven and our love for Christ at the ultimate wedding will be so amazing! I love your speculations on how things may go. When we go to Heaven or if we are still living on Earth when God destroys it and makes it into the New Earth, we will see for ourselves what the outcome will be. See you there! :)

@1234567mrbob

6 жыл бұрын

WOW! That is so well said I don't know how to respond, other than "Exactly!". People who teach the no marriage/sex/romance in heaven dribble completely brush off the Book of Genesis. What's even more laughable is that they insist that God will preserve the pleasure of eating, something that is basically only a physical pleasure, but do away with what you refer to as "the most complexly designed part of the anatomy of our human body", an expression that touches the human being at all levels of our existence. If more people would give thought to what they read, say and teach like you do, then church would be a different place.

@matthewstenzel4513

6 жыл бұрын

So does that tell us the outcome of what will happen in Heaven and New Earth?

@raffygatal7639

3 жыл бұрын

We really don't know but we have to believed what Jesus said. The purpose for married here on earth to procreation thats God will to populated the earth through Adam and Eve. While in heaven theres no need to get married because already been populated by the believers throughout the nations any tribe who got saving the knowledge of Jesus Christ. But it doesnt meant we will not be able to recognize our relationships with our husband and wife when we see each other in heaven.

@rudolfberki8683

3 жыл бұрын

@@raffygatal7639 I personally believe that Adam and Eve had enjoyed their husband and wife relationship, including sexual relationship, before the fall, which they carried with them after the fall. God said in the very beginning that it is not good for man to be alone and He made a 'help meet' for him, a woman and not a man. I don't believe God will change that, therefore I believe it will continue throughout eternity.

Marriage on earth is Hell without Jesus.

@eagleeye182

Жыл бұрын

Why?

"Nevertheless we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness." 2 Peter 3:13 KJV "For, behold, I create new heavens and a new earth: and the former shall not be remembered, nor come into mind." Isaiah 65:17 KJV

@1234567mrbob

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! And it goes on to say... "Behold, I create Jerusalem as a city of happiness, and her people will be a source of joy! I will rejoice over Jerusalem as a city of happiness, and the sound of weeping and crying will be heard no more! _No longer will babies die when only a few days old._ No longer will adults die before they have lived a full life. No longer will *people be old at one hundred!* Only sinners die that young. In those days, people will live in the houses they build and eat the fruit of their own vineyards. It will not be like the past, when invaders inhabited the houses and confiscated the vineyards. For my people will _live as long as trees,_ and my chosen ones will have time to enjoy the works of their hands. They will not labor in vain, and *their children* will not be doomed to misfortune. For they are people blessed by the LORD, and *their children,* too, will be blessed. I will answer them before they call to me, while they are still petitioning me for their needs, I will answer their prayers. The lion will feed with the lamb, the wolf will eat straw like the ox. Poisonous snakes will strike no more! In those days, no one will be hurt or destroyed on my holy mountain. I, the LORD, have spoken!" ... ISAIAH 65 : 17 - 25.

@1234567mrbob

4 жыл бұрын

That is absolutely my favorite passage in Scripture! I get teary eyed every time I read it. If that passage doesn't prove that God will restore an Edenic paradise for humanity, where we get to *have back* what God originally gave to Adam and Eve, then you and I are not reading the same Bible!

@lilacscoffee9360

2 жыл бұрын

@@1234567mrbob Do you think that means people will still be able to have children in the new Heaven and the new earth?

@1234567mrbob

2 жыл бұрын

@@lilacscoffee9360 I don't know. We have to think bigger than that. God clearly designed humanity to have passionate relationships with one another, male and female. That is a fundamental design expressed vividly in the Book of Genesis and throughout the Bible. Secondly, God created us to participate with Him in the creation of new life. In marriage we do that through procreation. If God is true to His design, then he has a plan for us to experience both of those things in in our ultimate destiny... the Salvation of Mankind and our Resurrection from the Dead. Whether you call it "marriage" or "procreation" or whatever is unimportant. The fact is that if God is true to His principles, which I believe He is, then we will experience that, in whatever form, when we are in our resurrected state. You can argue over semantics, but God's blueprint will not change, I believe.

All the MGTOW guys are laughing so hard right now.

I saw a KZread video of a woman who sees angels and she said they told her the reason there won’t be marriage in heaven is because angels have no gender. Male/Female is an earthly state not a heavenly one. I know this is not biblical but it makes Jesus’ words more transparent (if true).

@InitialPC

3 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't say its a earthly thing, god made adam and eve into a man and a woman for a reason, he could have made them a genderless unisex couple but he didn't, I think that speaks for itself (im not trying to discredit your dream, just my thoughts)

@TechCody113

Жыл бұрын

That’s a lie, Zachariah 5.5 says 2 women with wings like a stork, angels are male and female, the reason for no marriage if because we’re perfect, therefore there’s no need for a marriage oath to be made in order to be together

@Mitzi73

Жыл бұрын

@@TechCody113 Thanks!

@antispectral5018

3 ай бұрын

If it’s not biblical why are you talking about it???

Thank you so much Pastor John! All glory to God for all you do!!!

Awesome 😊

There is a lot that we don’t understand about Heaven. To say there is no Marriage in Heaven false. Hold on before the fights: we won’t be marrying or given in Marriage, because we will already be one in Christ Jesus, a Bride He prepared for Himself. All will be unified and pure in Heaven, no one will be doomed to be alone. I don’t know all the details of this, there are still mysteries about Heaven and the love thereof, That we will not comprehend until we get there, but rest assured, you won’t be enduring the loneliness of separation.

@thelogiclockedwithinhuman8285

3 жыл бұрын

@Bound Less I think people are misinterpretating Matthew 22:30 I believe Jesus was referring to Marriage Customs not Marriage based on Love, plus I also believe through careful investigation that we're the Church Of Christ not the Bride Of Christ, that I believe now more than ever is New Jerusalem, thank-you for reading and God Bless, PS yes I believe there is Marriage/Romantic Companionship in Heaven and New Earth...

@crosscollisionhope

3 жыл бұрын

Ghost In The Shell's The Laughing Man i don’t completely agree , nor do I completely disagree.and of course, I’m always open to a healthy dose of conversation and study on the word. God bless you too

In Luke 20:36 Jesus states one of the reasons for no more marrying is because the saved resurrected can’t die anymore but will be like the angels in heaven. The contrast to angels is not sexual desire, He contrasted mortality with immortality. Marry meant the male proposing for the woman to be his wife and being given in marriage meant the father giving her to the proposer. It’s customs to be married, not marriage itself. Adam and Eve were married without marrying or being given in marriage. The reason for the Sadducee's question was that the levirate law required a woman to marry the next oldest brother of her husband if he died without children. They thought if the woman hadn’t fulfilled the purpose of that law, she would still need to be married to all the brothers or they’d be sinning. If she did that, she and the men would commit polygamy which is also a sin, so to avoid sin, God wouldn’t resurrect everyone forever. They thought all of God's laws would be needed in a renewed world, not knowing that the reason for recreating is to restore creation to before those laws were needed. Keeping marriage does not contradict Jesus’s answer to the Sadducees because the woman they asked about is only required to marry any of those men with the levirate law. The law ending does not forbid her from being married to a different man. It's a false dilemma. Jesus’s mention of not being able to die would make no sense unless he only meant legal customs to marry because death is not a reason for marriage. It says in Revelation 20:6 that those who are awakened in the first resurrection won’t suffer for eternity. These are the same people in the prophecy in Isaiah 65:17-25. If Jesus said that those worthy to attain the age of the resurrection won’t marry or be given in marriage and are also said to continue being married and reproducing, that’s proof that Jesus only meant legal marriage customs will be gone. Would any of the people who heard Jesus answer been amazed at it if he meant sexuality would be eliminated? I’m pretty sure Jews had as much sexual desire as most other people, so would have despaired if that was the context. At the beginning of creation, God said for us to be fruitful and multiply with no indication it was to ever stop. There would need to be a bigger earth to fit all physical beings that have ever lived by the time of the resurrection. God expands the entire universe. doing the same to any planet shouldn't conflict with his plans. Marriage was the only thing God said is not good to be without before creating it. After Eve was made and brought to Adam, it says for this reason shall people be united with a spouse to become one flesh. Jesus repeats this in Matthew 19:4-5 and Mark 10:6-7 and Paul does in Ephesians 5:31. “For this reason” means it’s the only reason. Reproduction and representing God’s relationship are not reasons stated anywhere in scripture. If gender remains, so does marriage. If Jesus’s answer meant no one will be married, then it contradicts us being male and female being the reason for marriage, and God's promise to restore all creation in Acts 3:21 and 24:15, 2 Peter 3:13, Romans 8:20-23 and 32 and other prophecies. After God made marriage, He called everything very good. The beginning conditions of the creation don't need improving because God doesn’t change. Many Christians have claimed that something unspecified would be needed to make life better forever and would also make sexuality useless, ignoring the fact that marriage was something needed for creation to not be missing anything good. It's contradictory and more akin to Buddhism than Christianity. If having something better is a reason to eliminate sex, it's a reason to eliminate everything God made, and we should all just feel God's presence, getting joy from that and never doing anything else for eternity. If simply having a sinless relationship with God makes marriage useless, then God would have had no reason to create gender and sex, because God had the kind of relationship with Adam and Eve that people will have with Him in the renewed creation. If God eliminated sexuality then the distinguishing shapes of the gender's faces, body shapes for sexual attraction, parts used for sexual pleasure, and reproduction would all be wasted. Gender having other functions is no reason to get rid of any of them. They're all part of what makes us the genders we are and God doesn’t create anything expendable. The human female figure is shaped the way it is to fit babies during birth, and sperm, egg cells, and wombs are used only for reproduction. If Jesus’s answer to the Sadducees meant no one will be married anymore, no one can be married to Jesus as a replacement. God is described as a husband to people in Hosea 2:7, Isaiah 45:5, Jeremiah 31:32, Ezekiel 16:8, and other Old Testament texts. That didn’t replace marriage either, because they’re analogies just as the wife of the lamb is in Revelation. They are different types of relationships that fulfill different desires. If marriage is a representation of Jesus’s relationship with the church, then people would have to have sinned so Jesus would have to redeem us. God is not going to create something that requires what He hates. If you are made unable to care about something you're passionate about, it's manipulation of free will. Sin is a selfish way to try satisfying a desire, that makes us less satisfied afterward. Removing sin doesn’t manipulate free will. That's not the same as removing a basic desire for any sensation. They think that since they don’t think of the joy that would be gone from losing that passion for eternity, that wanting to keep something God said wasn't good to be without is the problem. They're so obsessed simply with being eternally satisfied that they don't know it's only hopeful because it's by restoration of all God made, not a replacement for any of it. That would make anything God made for us irrelevant. There's a book all about the joy of sexuality: Song of Songs, and doesn’t imply that marriage is useless without reproduction. There’s no bible book devoted to the joy of any other creation. Heaven isn’t the final destination, it’s the renewed earth. The only thing that needs to be gone is what sin did.

@ericbreaux6124

2 жыл бұрын

These are messages me and an ignorant and arrogant author on creation ministries emailed each other in December, 2019. My first email to him: In your article response to an email about gender in the new creation, you wrote a response in the comments staying there won't be marriage or sexuality, but that gender still wouldn't be wasted. In the account with the Sadducees, marry and given in marriage meant the male proposer paying a fee to the woman's dad and the woman being given to the man respectively. This was not done with the first human couple so says nothing about marriage itself. At the beginning, God said for us to be fruitful, multiply, renew earth and subdue it with no indication it was to ever stop. Being alone was the one thing God said during the original creation that is not good, made Eve to complete humanity, and said that is the reason for marriage. In other words, there is no other reason, if gender remains so does marriage. There being no disappointments isn't teaching that the restored creation will automatically be satisfying even if God eliminates what produced the most pleasure of it. That ignores free will. Dear Eric. Thanks for writing in. I take it you were referring to my article creation.com/physical-new-earth. I don’t know what function gender will have in the new creation. I didn’t speculate. I simply affirmed that the distinction will exist in the new creation because it’s a physical fact that Jesus is a resurrected man-genitalia and all. As to Luke 20:35 (and Matthew 22:30 and Mark 12:25), do you have any documentary evidence that “marry and are given in marriage” isn’t simply an idiom referring to marriage per se? That’s what it looks like, and that’s how the church has traditionally understood it. Indeed, Luke 20:35 is just such evidence that one would expect if marriage had a temporary function in God’s plans. Indeed, how does Luke 20:35 function as a part of Jesus rebuttal to the Sadducees’ objection to the resurrection if He all he says is that marriage payments won’t be exchanged in the resurrection? That would be completely irrelevant to the Sadducees’ argument. Any meaning we attribute to this verse must make sense in context, and the context is that this is part of Jesus’ rebuttal to the Sadducees’ argument against the resurrection. In fact, it seems that if Jesus isn’t saying that marriage won’t exist in the resurrection in Luke 20:35, Jesus failed to rebut the Sadducees’ objection to the resurrection. Indeed, if marriage exists in the resurrection, it seems to me that there was a simple answer to the Sadducees Jesus could’ve used: marriage ends at death. Everyone knows that marriage ends at death, since widows and widowers were free to remarry. The upshot is that the woman in the Sadducees’ parable wouldn’t be anyone’s wife in the resurrection. She would have to remarry (as would all the brothers). But what about those alive at the resurrection? Simple: the resurrection event/Jesus’ return would nullify their previous marriage. If they wanted the same spouse, they’d have to remarry in the resurrection. (This may seem radical, but it solves any issues that might arise concerning widows and widowers.) Besides, Jesus is unmarried (in the literal Genesis 1-2 sense). Is His gender wasted if He remains unmarried? Indeed, is gender wasted in anyone who remains unmarried? Clearly not. As to Genesis 1:28, isn’t there an implicit stopping point for our ‘multiplying’, i.e. when we fill the earth? At any rate, Genesis 1:28 doesn’t need to give any indication of stopping if God says later that it will stop. And that’s precisely what the church has traditionally understood Luke 20:35 to imply. Moreover, in the eschaton, there will be myriads of people. Adam’s problem of being alone before Eve was made won’t be a problem for us in the eschaton! Luke 20:35 does indeed teach that marriage will be done away with in the resurrection. There’s no way around this. It’s the only way Jesus response to the Sadducees makes any sense and succeeds. And since Jesus is God, He has the authority to update the situation concerning marriage even with respect to Genesis 1-2. Besides, we won’t be alone in the resurrection. Kind regards, Shaun Doyle Creation Ministries International Me: The evidence it's not referring to marriage itself is that marrying and being given in marriage are actions. Also, the fact that God said it is not good to be alone then made Eve to eliminate that problem. Immediately after that, it's stated that for this reason shall people be joined to a spouse to become one flesh. If gender stays so does the reason for marriage. Jesus repeated this statement when asked about divorce. Being without friends is not the loneliness God meant. Friendship doesn't satisfy the same desire that a sexually intimate marriage does. That's why a help meet for Adam was needed and why there being billions of people doesn't make people proportionally less sexual. It's stated numerous times in the bible that God will restore all of His creation. Jesus's answer is still relevant because their question was about the resurrection, not marriage. They assumed the laws established after humans sinned would be part of a creation restored to the conditions before those laws were needed. Adam and Eve were married with no one marrying or being given in marriage. Marriages end at death because you can't do anything with a dead person. Paul specifically states that frees them from the law of marriage. The law is not a reason for marriage, it's simply to regulate marriage in a sinful life. If Jesus married anyone, he'd be showing a kind of favoritism, but God loves everyone equally. He'd have a desire that couldn't be self-fulfilled. He wants companionship because he relates to his other selves, none of which is in a sexual way. Reproduction and sexual attraction is all part of what makes us the genders we are. And there are parts used exclusively for reproduction: sperm and egg cells. There is no indication in Genesis that reproduction would ever stop if Earth is ever filled. God expands the universe, there's no problem with doing the same to any planet or making us able to live on others. Earth would need to be bigger to fit all animals, including insects, and human life that has ever died along with who will still be living when the resurrection happens anyway. He wants more beings to love because his love is infinite. Song of Songs is entirely about the joy of marriage and sexual passion and has no indication that it's useless without reproduction. To so affirmatively claim Jesus's answer to the Sadducees prooves marriage and sexual passion will end contradicts other verses. It requires manipulating free will to not care about what most people have the greatest passion for of God's creation. Your errors come from using select verses to interpret other relevant ones instead of accounting for all relevant verses to interpret each individual one. I had to post my response to him from the contacts option on their site, and in two parts because they limit you to 1000 spaces. Even doing that, I had to omit my last sentence that I posted above to have room for them to accept it. When I responded to him from my inbox, I always got a message that it wasn't accepted.

@ericbreaux6124

2 жыл бұрын

Dear Eric, Thanks for your response. As I said previously, it doesn't matter that there is no indication in Genesis of marriage ending; Luke 20:35 and parallels make it clear that marriage will end. Jesus' argument against the Sadducees makes no sense otherwise. And abolishing an institution no longer needed has precedent in the Bible. For instance, the Mosaic sacrificial system was abolished when Christ fulfilled its purpose by being the perfect sacrifice (Hebrews 10:8-9). Marriage will have served its purpose when we reach eternity; it was meant to produce a family of the redeemed (Did God create man to be an eternal companion for His son Jesus Christ?). As such, marriage will be abolished. I suspect that it will also be abolished for the more practical reason that it avoids precisely the sorts of scenarios the Sadducees used to object to the resurrection. What of sexual desire and procreation? Technically, Luke 20:35 and parallels only talk about marriage ending; they don't mention sex or procreation. Nonetheless, given that sex and procreation are bundled up with marriage in Genesis 1-2, it's intuitive to infer that sex and procreation will end along with marriage. Moreover, Jesus says we will be like the holy angels, which may imply that we won't have sex (for procreation or any other reason), either. This is also the traditional view of the church. Nor does this contradict other passages that affirm the goodness of marriage, sex, and sexual desire. The Law is good, but that doesn't mean God's people would always be under the Law (cf. Romans 7:1-6). As such, affirming the goodness of marriage, sex, and sexual desire doesn't require us to believe that they will continue forever. But will taking away our sexual desire destroy our free will? I don't even see how that's possible. Since when is the power to want sex a necessary component of human freedom? Some people alive today don't want sex. At any rate, while there is continuity between our bodies now and our bodies in the resurrection, Paul also implies that there will be some discontinuity (1 Corinthians 15:42-44). The discontinuities include: perfect health, deathlessness, impeccability, and (per Luke 20:35) fitness for a life without marriage. If that includes a life without sex, then it will clearly include a life without sexual desire. But since our desires will be impacted in other ways by the transformation (e.g. we will no longer have any sinful desires), changing our bodies so that we no longer desire sex is not a problem. Kind regards, Shaun Doyle Creation Ministries International Me: Luke 20:35 is about a law, not marriage. Your interpretation contradicts the reason for marriage stated In Genesis: because we were made male and female, later quoted by Jesus when asked about divorce. Eternity can"t make it useless. It was made for its own joy and pleasure. The difference with the sacrificial laws and marriage is that marriage was part of God’s sinless creation. Mosaic law was because of sin and Jesus fulfilled what those laws were for. He does not fulfill what marriage is for. Jesus's contrast with Angels was with mortality and immortality, not sexuality. There is no indication by being told to fill earth that there would eventually be no more room. People not wanting sex is no reason to take that away from people who do want to keep it. Sin is trying to fulfill a desire in a way different than how God wants. It is not the same thing as having a desire wanting to be fulfilled to begin with. Our differences Will be restoration to Genesis 2 conditions, which were sexual. It’s ridiculous that he doesn’t understand that having a desire removed is manipulating free will simply because other people don’t have the same desire. The difference is they aren’t forced to not care and could still see someone they’re attracted to. If you can’t choose what to want or not, you’re being controlled by something else. Sin is a way of trying to satisfy a desire that leaves you less satisfied than how God intended. Removing that isn’t manipulation because you still desire the same things you tried to satisfy with sin. Without sin the temptations will have been removed so the desires can be fulfilled how God intended. The mosaic law was for regulating how to worship God in a sinful world. Jesus fulfilled it by taking the punishment we deserve to restore more of our relationship with God. That’s a different type of relationship than marriage. Marriage was something sin ruined that needs to be restored. Shaun is a lazy thinker. He kept mentioning traditional church beliefs, even though tradition doesn't determine accuracy. It was traditionally believed by Christians that Eve was responsible for corrupting creation and that being deceived by the serpent makes women more foolish and corruptible than men. They also believed that slavery was fine by God. They used the same selective text reading and opinions of the implications of what they read that this guy does. Most Christians don't believe the same things about women and slavery anymore. Marriage can’t be fulfilled by producing a family for the redeemed. If that was a reason for it then sin would have been necessary so there would need to be redemption for marriage to be fulfilled. God is not going to make something that requires what he hates. Marriage was made for companionship with the people married to each other. That's why it's stated after Adam and Eve meet that for this reason shall people be one flesh with a spouse, not for reproduction. That statement contradicts there being any other reason for marriage, later quoted by Jesus himself. That's why Song of Songs is about a passionate sexual relationship, not reproducing. Marriage has to exist for it to be fulfilled.

@ericbreaux6124

2 жыл бұрын

Dear Eric, All these arguments founder on the fact that Luke 20:35 and parallels are an explicit statement that there will be no more marriage in the resurrection. Otherwise, it makes no sense as an argument against the Sadducees. Marriage is an institution, not a fact of nature. God can change it, if He wants. Desires will be different in the resurrection; they will be sinless and fit for that age (sexual desire per se falls into the latter category, not the former). There is no contradiction. Kind regards, Shaun Doyle Creation Ministries International ⁠ Hi Eric, This will be my last response on this topic. We're just repeating ourselves, now. You have not proven your case with regard to Luke 20:35 and parallels. You've provided no documentary evidence for your interpretation of the crucial phrase. And the Greek words literally refer to marriage, not to the bride price/dowry that customarily accompanied the marrying process. Most importantly, though, the Sadducees' objection is not answered if marriage still exists in the resurrection. Their question was: "Now then, at the resurrection whose wife will she be, since the seven were married to her?" (Luke 20:33) If she were married in the resurrection, in response to them Jesus should've identified whom she would be married to. Instead, He just says 'they will neither marry nor be given in marriage". He doesn't identify whom the woman would be married to. As such, the phrase 'marrying and being given in marriage' must be understood as an idiom referring to the institution of marriage per se. It cannot refer just to customs related to making a marriage, or merely the process of making a marriage (as if Jesus were merely saying that there will be no more marriages made in the resurrection, but the ones that exist now will persist into that era). Why? Under all these ways of reading the phrase, the Sadducees' question remains unanswered: who will the woman be married to in the resurrection? Therefore, Jesus is saying that since marriage will be abolished in the resurrection, the woman in the Sadducees' question wouldn't be married to anyone. His argument fails to address the Sadducees' question if this is not what He means. Thus, Jesus clearly teaches that marriage will be abolished in the resurrection. This renders your point about Genesis 1-2 moot. Marriage is a legal institution, not a fact of nature. God can thus change it, or even do away with it, even though it was an institution He set up before the Fall. That is why there is no contradiction between the traditional reading of Luke 20:35 and parallels and Genesis 1. A change in situation does not amount to a contradiction. As to sexual desire, humans can still be humans without sexual desire and activity (though I do think the gender binary is intrinsic to human nature). The resurrection body isn't merely the old body renewed, but is also transformed to be suitable to the eternal state. And note that doesn't mean sexual desire now is sinful! It just means it doesn't fit in the resurrection age. Anyway, that's the last of what I have to say. Feel free to have the last word, if you wish. Kind regards, Shaun Doyle ⁠ Me: There is a contradiction. God already explicitly stated in Genesis 2 that for this reason shall people leave their parents and be one flesh with a spouse, referring to us having gender. Jesus repeats this when asked about divorce. He affirms the opposite of what you claim he does. The law is not the reason for marriage. Jesus' answer to the Sadducees is about legal actions, the context of which is what the Greek words were used for. You have to infer the opposite. Jesus wouldn't need to say she would be married to any of those men. Those laws have no relevance in a sinless, deathless world, but during those conditions is when God made marriage. That's the conditions that sin ruined and that God will restore in the resurrection. Joining Adam and Eve together was not a legal institution. There will be no difference from the desires he gave us before sin, including sexual. What sin did is the only thing that will change. Sexual desire and reproduction are all part of what makes us the genders we are. Sperm and egg cells and wombs are used exclusively for reproduction. I never claimed not being sexual makes someone less human. It's a manipulation of free will because it eliminates the ability to have that desire, whether someone wants to keep it or not. Your arguments are only believable by selective reading instead of accounting for all relevant verses to understand each individual one. You have no evidence and have simply ignored all of the texts I mentioned contradicting your opinions. What you teach is unbiblical utilitarian dogma. The law of levitate marriage that the Sadducees asked Jesus about is only needed if death occurs. She's only required to marry the other men by that law. Get rid of that law and her reason for marrying them goes away. "Who's wife will she be?" is still answered. It does not necessitate marriage itself end simply because it ends marriage to any specific person. You're arguing a false dilemma. Jesus's answer doesn’t require no marriage, just any laws that obligated her to marry anyone to not apply. That doesn’t forbid her from being married to a different man. He's arguing the fallacy that marriage continuing requires one to stay married to a previous spouse. Remarriage is allowed after a spouse's death. Paul said it’s being free from the law to compare it to being free from the mosaic law because of Jesus resurrection. The only way that comparison works is if marriage can continue, just with someone else, or it would be teaching that being free from the law eliminates sacrifice for sin too, but there remains a sacrifice for sin, just a different sacrifice. That means the law is not needed to be married or else Adam and Eve would have to have sinned for a law to be needed for marriage. Paul wrote that the law was only necessary because of sin. Shaun also argued the fallacy that changing God's original design is a change in condition only, so wouldn't contradict it not being good to be alone and the statement for why marriage exists. That's not simply a change of condition, that's a change of standard, and then more severely limits what people can hope to be restored since what God says is good and not isn’t eternal. Marriage not being part of nature is irrelevant because sexual desire is natural and only marriage fulfills that for people. Shaun claimed that God can change His mind about what’s good, but also that not being good to alone is resolved by there simply being more friends of the same race. If that’s true then it’s still not good to be alone, even by Shauns own logic. If God does change his standard for good and bad, then it wouldn’t matter anyway if there’s as many human friends as earth can fit, because it could be good to be alone in the future. The most significant contradiction, though, is that completing humanity with both genders is stated immediately after Adam and Eves first meeting to be the reason for marriage. Reproduction or anything else can’t be a reason. Animals reproduce without marriage: what makes marriage unique is the sexual intimacy. It’s purpose is itself: it has to exist to be fulfilled. God is not male and female, so Jesus being single is irrelevant. He’s self sufficient.

@andrewbethea327

2 жыл бұрын

@Eric Breaux Has Shaun Doyle addressed your point about how the people who heard Jesus answer would probably have felt despair if He meant that sexual feelings and relationships would end?

@ericbreaux6124

2 жыл бұрын

@@andrewbethea327 He didn’t.

Gee, he comes so close to answering the question.....close but no cigar....!!!!

Sorry, folks, Jesus did say there's no marrying or giving in marriage in the resurrection. BUT... You can have your marriage back with this registry hack: HKEY_PERSONAL_LIFE/Heaven/CurrentVersion/CanHaveFemalePartner (REG_SZ) "1" You have to reboot your resurrection after making the change.

@1234567mrbob

6 жыл бұрын

What do Jesus and Bill Gates have in common? There's a back door way to get what you want anyway.

@eagleeye182

4 жыл бұрын

LMAO

@SpiritLedOne God doesn't need to make that something better, He is that something better. : )

@k0smon So you think the world is going to be relinquished?...I'm not talking NEW AGE or ecumenicalism here which is what MAN wants like in Genesis 11, but rather God just refreshing the earth...It's in scripture...

I disagree, Jesus said “There is neither giving or TAKING of marriage in heaven“ , Paul said that death cannot separate what God has united, and it’s also said in scripture that in marriage the two become one body. According to these excerpts of scripture, the only way then for one to not be married to their spouse in heaven is if they willingly choose to divorce and separate themselves (like the example given by the Sadducee’s), departing themselves from one body with each other OR by choosing not to marry in earth. I believe that when two get married, male and female, and both are saved, since they are one body, like Christ and the church are one body, we will be with our spouse in heaven just as we are with Christ in heaven. Furthermore, (and what I’m sharing at this point is not scripture but instead experiences and stories that I’ve heard from family members) my aunt who loves God so much, and is born again, sometimes has dreams sent by God and she knows they are from God because the border of the dream is highlighted. And one of her most recent dreams she saw a vision of heaven and saw my deceased grandfather and grandmother who were both born again in the same place of living in heaven.

@TechCody113

Жыл бұрын

Yeeep that’s right, no marriage in heaven is one of the biggest LIE church as ever taught, I absolutely love telling older and younger people don’t worry if you get left out here, your find someone on new earth, instead of saying *JUST ACCEPT WHAT JESUS SAID!! SORRY NO MARRIAGE!!*🤣🤣🤣 ah these people are insane dude literally

@mnothing1325

Жыл бұрын

can you expand on the last part? your aunt said she saw your grandparents like in the same house ? I think my father had a similar dream of my deceased mother, so just wanted to ask for some extra clarification

@zachf4207

Жыл бұрын

@@mnothing1325 Yes. My aunt claims she saw my grandparents in the same house in heaven (they were faithfully married their whole life) and were still together in heaven. She never specified what the house looked like at least that I can remember. Another thing that I would like to add regarding marriage in heaven, is that the Bible also says, “whatever you bind on earth shall be bound in heaven.” A marriage is a covenant and therefore a binding of two people (that is, within an obedient Christian context).

@mnothing1325

Жыл бұрын

@@zachf4207 wow !! That’s true ! Were your grandparents just relaxing together having fun ?

@TechCody113

Жыл бұрын

@@zachf4207 that’s not what that verse was talking about, but ya aside from that I can by far stand and say no marriage in heaven is EVIL and one of the biggest LIES church has ever taught, technically Jesus was right, there’s no marriage because marriage is a man made concept that came thousands of years after Adam and Eve, it’s a concept that was man made for economic and social reasons regarding family ties for government and so forth, we ain’t even supposed to be getting married, god simply said 2 shall become one, never said they was married, the terms just got coined after so long, gods design was for 1 man and 1 women and to have kids, his design never changes, there will be no marriage in heaven because marriage isn’t the designed god made, it perverted it, we will just simply become one flesh with someone and then just live that way without calling it anything like god originally designed

no marriage in heaven? never thought it would come to this where I would dread the thought of going to heaven I live life with the hope that ill one day fall in love and get married, and god who is supposed to love us wants to take that away for eternity, fuck that

@dilansmolder4697

2 жыл бұрын

We can’t even imagine what He has prepared for us, “He will swallow up death forever. The Sovereign LORD will wipe away the tears from all faces; He will remove his people’s disgrace from all the earth. The LORD has spoken. 9 In that day they will say, “Surely this is our God; we trusted in Him, and he saved us. This is the LORD, we trusted in Him; let us rejoice and be glad in His salvation.” (Isaiah 25: 8-9) “For My thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways My ways,” declares the LORD. 9“For as the heavens are higher than the earth, so My ways are higher than your ways and My thoughts than your thoughts. 10For just as rain and snow fall from heaven and do not return without watering the earth, making it bud and sprout, and providing seed to sow and food to eat, 11so My word that proceeds from My mouth will not return to Me empty, but it will accomplish what I please, and it will prosper where I send it. (Isaiah 55: 8-11)

@savedandsealed826

2 жыл бұрын

I hear that. Although you have to see it from a logical perspective. You gotta realise what God has done for us. We're so Wicked yet God died for our sins to so we can be with him for eternity. God also created sex and he said it was good. God actually wants us to be happy despite how Satan has used religion to taint our view of God. These desires are from God, because God created us to have these desires. they're not just these wicked lusts that we have. Factoring all of this and more, I don't see why God would abolish all this. Especially since this is such a yearning for I believe alot of his children including myself

@thelamb777 I think the earth will go on for thousands of years just as it is now. Man lives here for less than 100 years (with a few exceptions), then he lives on in the heavenly spheres. I do not believe in any second comings or God setting up a 'new earth'.

@nvpguitar4591

5 жыл бұрын

k0smon so you don’t believe in the Bible?

If I cannot be reunited with husband after 29 years of marriage, and my parents in heaven I do not want to be in heaven. Just let me perish because my husband is life, my world, and my soulmate. There is no other like him for me.

@LuisAguilar-mo5fb

3 жыл бұрын

You’re suppose to love God first. If not then he won’t force you into his presence

@AntiVillain26845

3 жыл бұрын

@@LuisAguilar-mo5fb Yet He'll forcibly change our thoughts once we're there?

@elledeanne462

3 жыл бұрын

Jesus is your life and your world. Anything else that takes that place is an idol.

@Dsmooth753youtube

2 жыл бұрын

Saints are flesh and will fornicate in the resurrection #KJV #heaven #fornication Jeremiah 3:14-19 KJV says those who are MARRIED TO CHRIST will "multiply", "increase", have "families", and "children" in the millennium and we wont have the laws anymore. this includes marriage laws cuz the whole chapter is about marriage. Put two and two together this is must be fornication. * It even say we have pastors, a pastor must be married with children. How can we have pastors if there's no marriage? Cuz the marriage law was removed and they're aloud to fornicate. * And it's talking to Israeli thousands of years before the Millennium these people are all DEAD now. * In Ephesians 2:11‭-‬19 KJV God says Christian will be fellow citizens of Israel. So it applies to us aswell. "For I am married to you" = saints in christ "Multiplied and increased in the land" = baby makeing. "Jerusalem the throne of the Lord" = Millennium "No more ark of the covenant" = no laws Jeremiah 23:3‭-‬6 KJV also says GOD'S FLOC well be "fruitfull" and "increase" in the Millennium. * it says his "floc from all countries". Saved people from all history. * it says they will "fear no more" aka no problems... People saved after the rapture still have problems so it can't be talking to them. * And it says we will "walk in God judgments" so we are NOT transgressing the law. (It won't be anything goes just a boyfriend girlfriend thing). SAINTS WILL NOT HAVE THE LAW only the unsaved will have laws in the millennium. We will have the law written in our hearts. Hebrews 10:14‭-‬16 and Jeremiah 31:33‭-‬34 (we will only have a moral contusion no written law) * "For the priesthood being changed, there is made of necessity a change also of the law". Hebrews 7:12 KJV. * (God did the same thing with the Sabbath Day, circumcision, and the food laws.) * "Because the law worketh wrath: for where no law is, there is no transgression." Romans 4:15 KJV * no law, no transgression, NO Sin." Jesus ONLY said no marriage AND we will be like the angels who are FLESH. He even clarified we are "alive", a spirit is NOT alive. But wait, flesh and blood can't inherit the kingdom of God? Exactly "INHERIT" we will become flesh and bone in the resurrection. 1) OUR GLORIFIED BODIES ARE FLESH- * Ezekiel 36:22-‬35 KJV God says he will give us a "new heart of FLESH" in the Millennium. * In Revelation 7:13-17 our glorified bodies are described as eating food and wearing cloths implying genitalia. we're not spirits just spiritual. * In Luke 24:39-43 Jesus was also FLESH and "BONE" in his glorified body when he rows from the dead and he eat fish. * (spirit does not have flesh and bone. A spirit can not eat food.) * In Luke 14:15 We eat bread in heaven. * (We will be flesh and "BONE" like Jesus. No blood... The bible says we will have celestial bodies but celestial means outside the earth not a spirit.) 2) GENDER AND CHILDREN IN HEAVEN- * Revelation 14:1-4 KJV- the 144,000 are "virgin MEN" that come down from heaven and have not been defiled by "WOMEN". Proving gender exists. and it says ARE "present tense" it's not talking about back in there past lives. * "virgin implies intercourse still exists and they haven't had it yet." * Revelation 12:1-2 KJV- says there's a WOMAN clothed with the sun in heaven with child. (Its a pregnant woman giving birth) * Matthew 24:30 KJV - the "son" of man is in heaven coming in the clouds. Jesus is MALE not a genderless spirit. * in Matthew 19:14 KJV jesus says little children surve him in heaven meaning theres little children in heaven * in Isaiah 66:22-23 KjV it says on the new earth our SEED will remain and all FLESH shall worship the lord. * ( some verses say there is neither male or female in christ. BUT its not talking about heaven. Its talking about following christ.) 3) ANGELS ARE FLESH - * Ezekiel 10:15 the cherubim are stated as "living creatures" there for they are flesh. The term "living creatures" is used all throughout the chapter to describe them. * Psalms 78:23-29- God makes "angel's food" fall down from heaven for his people to eat. Implying angels must eat food. * In Ezekiel 1:20‭-‬21 KJV he says twice that they hold their spirits in their wheels. How can a spirit hold itself inside itself? It's clearly just has a flesh body with a spirit in it. * In Ezekiel 1:11 the cherubim are said to cover themselves implying genitalia and we know they don't marry so they have to fornicate. They're also called beasts all the time and beasts reproduce without getting married. * (No where in the Bible does it say they are celibate. They're sometimes called spirits but not literally.) 4) FORESHADOWING OF THIS - * Genesis 4:16-17 Cain is sent to the land of Nod to know his wife/sister and have kids. This is foreshadowing of Jeremiah 3:14-16 when "two of "a" family" are sent to Zion to multiply. Two of the "same" family that's brother and sister. * This is symbolic of how the Millennium and later the new earth will be like the garden of Eden and the days before the flood. Ezekiel 36:33-‬35 KJV back when relations between family members were aloud. This rule can also be applied to the unsaved in to. * 1 Corinthians 5:9-10 says be not altogether with the fornicators of "THIS WORLD". This implies an opposition where there's fornicators in other worlds. BUT WHY? 3 REASONS 1) It's a sin in this life is because it is UNCLEAN, that's not a problem in our glorified bodies. There is no other reason given in scripture besides it being unclean. 2) We were ALWAYS meant to multiply in the beginning, Genesis 1:27‭-‬28 KJV. * He NEVER says it is only for reproduction, he said it was to "REPLENISH" the earth. Multiplying keeps the planet stable. 3) its connected to the resurrection of christ. We are all suposed to be like jesus in his glorified body. Some verses say fornicators can't enter the Kingdom of God. BUT they say enter in not aloud in, and they're referring to the "OLD MAN" and not the "NEW MAN" in christ which is not subject under the law. * All the verse talking about how wicked fornication is are referring to this world in our fallen bodies. This we are spirits thing is a complete FABLE that is not found in the bible. Get saved today. the bible way to heaven kzread.info/dash/bejne/qomDl9FtidC6kqQ.html THIS SPIRIT CRAP IS AN ATTACK OF THE RESURRECTION!!!!!!! * Now if Christ be preached that he rose from the dead, how say some among you that there is no resurrection of the dead? But if there be no resurrection of the dead, then is Christ not risen: 1 Corinthians 15:12‭-‬13 KJV #angels #jesus #millennium #cherubim #resurrection #marriage #newifb #baptist #salvationbyfaithalone #144000 #fornicationinheaven #eternalfornication

@eagleeye182

Жыл бұрын

@@elledeanne462 You`re talking smack here. What did Jesus create us for then? Just for worshiping Him for eternity? So, our lives, feelings or loved ones don`t mean anything? She asked a very legitimate question. If you love someone madly, it doesn`t automatically mean that you doesn`t love your god. So, God says that love is great but at the same time, He becomes extremely jealous when we find someone in life who we really love. What the hell am I going to do in Heaven for eternity if my loved ones aren`t going to be there? Huh? Does God guarantee that they`ll be "up there"? No! He does not! That`s why Heaven is not perfect!

@SpiritLedOne actually Yes, there is man & woman marriage also in heaven /watch?v=p2X0HLI0oDw

@viviennebaptiste

5 жыл бұрын

Uber Leet what’s the name

As Paul washer said. Show me a man obsessed with Jesus I’ll show you a man without the Holy Spirit.

I was miserable about there being no sexual intercourse and no childbearing in heaven for a very long time, even to the point of renouncing my faith and pledging my allegiance to Satan. So this is what I told Jesus: "Jesus, you are my King. Please hear this prayer of mine. Whether I die right now or at 120, please do not let me go to hell. Please save me from the fires and worms of hell. Please do not ever let me renounce my faith ever again. Please do not let me ever pledge my allegiance to Satan again. Please wash away all my sins including the ones I am holding onto right now and help me let go of them. There will be no marriage, childbearing, or the sea in heaven so heaven is not a paradise with sexual intercourse, childbearing, and the sea. Please let me let go of sexual intercourse, childbearing, and the sea and to appreciate all of their replacements in heaven and everything else in heaven that is improved. And let me never again fall into belief or consideration that there is sexual intercourse or childbearing in heaven, and for that manner, never let me fall into false teachings or belief at all. In your name I pray, Jesus, amen." 2022. 3. 6. PM 5:13 PDT

@tonyxx4514

2 жыл бұрын

Pls dont believe this

@naits7457

2 жыл бұрын

@@tonyxx4514 There will be no sexual intercourse in heaven or the desire for it because the marriage to Jesus and familial love between all the believers will be better than sexual love. There will be no childbearing in heaven or the desire or ability for it because the name and place God will give us is better than having sons and daughters. Sexual love is only a symbol. The love in heaven is the real thing. When you have the real thing, you no longer need the symbol. If God says something is better, then it is objectively better. The food in heaven will be better than what they were on earth, so we will not desire the food from the earth when we taste heavenly food. Our physical abilities in heaven will be better and so we will not want our lesser abilities from the earth. Nature in heaven will be more beautiful even without the sea, so we will not want the less beautiful nature from the earth. When you do not want to believe that heaven will be better than sexual intercourse and children, you are committing the sin of faithlessness and if you do not repent of this, you will go to hell. There will be no sexual intercourse or childbearing in hell either, but only the eternal burning with fire and infestation with worms.

@thelamb777 A lot of things don't make sense, we just have to find out how it really is and deal with it. There is no procreation in heaven - that is all done down here. After I experience heaven, I will never want another earth experience. I do not believe in the 'new earth'.

True Marriage blessed by God are for eternity. Here are the step-by-step reasons why we are still single at the time of the resurrection,It does not means that will not be married in Heaven The Bible says that: 1) God created us in His image 2) God told Adam and Eve to become fruitful, multiply and have dominion over the Creation 3) Due to their human fall, Satan has a claim on each one of us as their descendants 4) From generation to the next, we are born with the original sin, connected to the fallen Adam 5) Jesus said that we are often doing the will of our Father "Satan". We are midway between God and Satan 6) Jesus, the Messiah comes with no connection to the fall as the"second" Adam to restore the failure of the 1st Adam and reconnect us to God 7) Jesus' mission was to fulfill the blessing given to Adam. "Be fruitful, multiply and have Dominion over the creation" 8) Jesus wanted to establish God's lineage on earth and start the Kingdom of God on earth 9) Tragically. he was rejected by the chosen people and went the way of the Cross in order to bring spiritual salvation to humanity 10) We need to be reborn in and thru Christ and the Holy Spirit 11) Then as St Paul said, we can become "adopted children " of God 12) Jesus overcome death but died as a single man saying the He will come back once more for the marriage banquet of the Lamb 13) He said to the thief on his right that he will be with him in Paradise 14) Jesus did not go to Heaven because he was still a single man. 15) Today, even children born from reborn Christian parents are born with the original sin connected to Satan 16) Our marriage are not blessed in the eye of God until Christ's marriage takes place here on earth 17) This explains why at the time of the resurrection, we are still considered singles, even we are married 18) We need to wait for the "Marriage of the Lamb" first to take place so Christ can bless us in eternal marriage with no relationship to the fall 19) Then we can enter Heaven as a couple and a family. The Kingdom of God is made of families

Another question that can be answered the same way is: 'How can I truly desire heaven knowing that I will no longer have erotic desires for my wife or reproductive abilities there?' 'By cultivating an ever increasing delight in Christ.' And how do we do that? Do we will our own way into it like the Arminians say? Or do we say to God that we have no desire for Him, but ask Him to change us so that we will desire Him like what the Calvinists say? Or is it something else?

@SpiritLedOne i like you. :)

Very few people in the church like the idea of not having a mate in heaven...This guy sounds like an old fool trying to explain this.

@impassable

9 жыл бұрын

***** I know there is no marriage in heaven, but from what I've seen, most folks don't like that idea..

@James5877

5 жыл бұрын

Who needs a spouse when God Himself will be in Heaven? Seeing God and talking with Him in person will be far greater than having a spouse. Also, in Heaven our relationships will be far better and more satisfying because there wont be anymore selfishness or sin, only perfect love.

@AntiVillain26845

5 жыл бұрын

@GoodNews777@ Adam used to have God and sinlessness, too. And God still called it "not good" (Genesis 2 18) for him to lack Eve.

@James5877

5 жыл бұрын

When God said it is not good for Adam to be alone, He meant it's not good for us to lack human companionship, it doesn't mean it's bad to be single. In 1 Corinthians 7, the Apostle Paul, who was single, wrote that he wished all men were single like him, and that some people have the gift of singleness, and that as single people we can serve God without distraction. Read 1 Corinthians 7.

@AntiVillain26845

5 жыл бұрын

@GoodNews777@ By your logic, infertile people will be cheated out of Resurrection-based healing. The blind will see, the deaf will hear, the lame will walk, the mute will speak… and the barren will get some vague consolation prize? Sorry, not buying it.

Relationships in heaven are similar to those on earth. Relationships are made, and they are broken. No relationship (on earth) lasts forever. In heaven, it depends on the desire of both persons. Some grow together, some apart.

depopulate*

@1234567mrbob

4 жыл бұрын

But it's not actually "depopulate". They say that "God's numbers are complete", and that every human being God ever intended to create will be created and he will just retire from creation for the rest of eternity. That's not far from John Calvin, who said God predestined everyone to go to either heaven or hell, and that God planned for a limited number of people to enjoy eternal life from the very beginning. That's the most horrific image of God anyone can perpetuate.

I haven't listened to John's answer yet but honestly anyone who asks this question is someone who needs to encounter Jesus for the 1st time.

@cassandrahuskey4703

6 жыл бұрын

Jason Jones not true , just because some one asks this question does not mean they do not have a relationship with the Lord, or are not living their life for the Lord. Perhaps they are still growing in the Lord . This question is a valid one and a logical concern .

@buckobucko3938

6 жыл бұрын

That's a very ignorant statement brother.

@AntiVillain26845

6 жыл бұрын

Anyone who makes that self-righteous generalization needs to remember how Jesus responded to the Pharisees and the Sadducees.

@legion3964

6 жыл бұрын

AntiVillain1 he never said there was no marriage in heaven first off those guys tried to trap Jesus they didn’t believe in angles or the resurrection and the marriage they followed was a Levite marriage not the marriage Christ intended

@AntiVillain26845

6 жыл бұрын

@legion396@ Pretty much.

The mother of humanity has children in the Millennium.

@pergunnarvikmjlhus3597

6 жыл бұрын

This grandpa is as inspiring and credible as I would have been if I were to hold a presentation about knitting and crocheting. "We will know each other", "we will have a kind of love for each other." "A kind of love." Well, that's awkward! How motivating! "My darling wife, do you love me? "Yes, I have a kind of love for you." "How romantic you are, or not"! Why is it that you never hear the phrase "I have a kind of love for you" in any chart topping hit songs? Because it sounds lame and incredibly unpassionate and apathetic. Google search: "a kind of love for you", hits = 1.

@1234567mrbob

6 жыл бұрын

From the look of it, he only has marriage to Jesus to look forward to! "Eat your heart out, I'm married to Christ!"

@pergunnarvikmjlhus3597

6 жыл бұрын

Earlier today I read a discussion (also on Piper's channel) about how christian singles at church tend to get ostrasized from the rest of the group. They'll think you're weird. The church is mostly a place for couples. Those couple of times (literally 2 times) I went alone to church after I became a christian, I always felt like an outsider. Kind of like that homeless guy who entered the church. They basically gave him some lemonade (because we all got lemonade and biscuits) and told him to stand in the background away from everybody else. Where is the love? So your joke about "dry biscuits" in Heaven really is exactly what I experienced. Why can't Jesus be like my earthly dad? My dad talks to me about girls, helps me with my music studio etc. If Jesus can't be like that, then my interactions with him won't even be natural. No matter how brainwashed I'll be, It still won't be natural for me to sing kumbaya alongside a bunch of stick-in-the-mud people all day. I feel more like a youth. I want to do fun things. I want my life to be a bit wild sometimes. A Victorian teaparty with a bunch of stiffnecked drive-by's will bore me to death! Even earlier this month I got to experience what it's like to join a dinner party for high-status people. Basically I won a competition. So there I was sitting next to a bunch of strangers who didn't even say a word to me. I got nervous, so my replies to them the few times they spoke to me sounded very ineloquent, as if my brain couldn't think straight. I quicky finished my dinner, and left the dinner table early. The next morning I woke up with a headache due to all the stress. So I wasn't joking when I said that I'll feel uncomfortable during the wedding supper of the lamb event. Even yesterday a person told me that sex will simply never come to mind in Heaven. That's called brainwashing! I thought his/her message to me was so pathetic that I didn't answer. I didn't think God was a cheater. Simply erasing all of our memories is cheating. How can anyone call that true happiness?! That's like knocking out your teacher, just so that you can give yourself an A on a test. I don't want to become naive, and have the brainpower of a robot.

@1234567mrbob

5 жыл бұрын

1. The Bible never says that angels are sexless. 2. The Bible never says that angels are male, 3. The argument that angels are sexless comes from Matthew 22:30 where Jesus says we "won't marry" and are "like angels". 3. Jesus says we "will not marry or be given in marriage". That is NOT the same as saying we ARE NOT married. 4. How can we be sexless because we are "like angels" when angels are sexless because they are "like us"? There is a chicken-and-egg problem with that argument. In order to "prove" that anyone is sexless, there needs to be a third argument that is never presented. 5. God said to Moses that He will "Bless the children of those who obey him to a thousand generations". If a generation is 40 years, then there would need to be 40,000 years of history after Moses. There isn't that much time in all of Biblical history, even if you throw in the Millennial reign. Jesus' return would have to be tens of thousands of years from now, and most Christian believers and Bible teachers neither believe nor teach that. If God does bless a thousand generations of those who obey, then there would need to be procreation after the resurrection. 6. The Bible doesn't explicitly say there is no procreation. That is implied by the belief that there's no marriage. But that isn't explicitly stated either (read point #3). 7. Why would a God who is a creator stop creating? I could go on and on. The point is that the implication that God will take away the male/famale dynamic because of 19 words Jesus said to the Sadducees is full of holes. So tell all of your dinner party people and stiff-necked Christians that they are believing a load of baloney that's been passed down through the centuries from the time of Augustine. These people are trying to shove "church" down our throats as a substitute for a romantic experience with intimate, opposite-gendered partners. The phrase "better than sex" to describe heaven is the worst argument ever presented. It shows a complete lack of respect to so many people, and isn't even accurate! Even if you buy into this spiritual "sing Kumbaya to the Lord" experience as some kind of "marriage" to Jesus, you cannot compare two unlike things. It's like saying a lawnmower is better than a car. That comparison is meaningless. Maybe a better term to describe heaven is "better sex"!

@pergunnarvikmjlhus3597

5 жыл бұрын

That's some next level thinking you are presenting here. # 4 was deep. Of course those people like dinner parties, they like to look at their flat plates, it reminds them of earth! The dinner party I attended didn't do much for me. It's very clear to me that God never intended for me to live such a lifestyle. Cause I felt like a fish out of water. Augustine? I'm not listening to that womanizer. # 5 is solid evidence. I've felt a bit demotivated lately. So I haven't commented so much. A lot of people have really sucked the lifeforce out of me. The lamest argument I recently heard, was from a guy who claimed that procreation isn't needed in Heaven, because "people are different", and "not everybody wants to have children." So if you get killed or die in an accident, you're basically screwed! So in other words, according to them, people (murderers) have the power to prevent others from ever experiencing the joy of childbirth. It's so stupid and ridiculous that I'm lost for words. Even lamer, there was a guy who claimed that only those who are alive at the time of the rapture will get to experience romance in Heaven. So only like 0,001 % of mankind will ever get to experience sex and romance in Heaven according to that guy. How can people call the saints more blessed, when the people alive during the millenium will be able to have children? How is that "more blessed"? So you have to be some kind of action hero and survive through a seven year tribulation period, just to even have a chance? But that in itself requires unfaithfulness and rebelling against God, and getting left behind, because you obviously want to be included in the rapture. So according to them, you're screwed either way.

Correction: Heaven is everything you love about marriage EXCEPT EROTIC THINGS, but better. The non-erotic parts of marriage will continue into heaven and the erotic desires will come to an end. Even though we are the wife of Jesus, He still considers nakedness to be unrighteous which is why we will be given white linen to represent righteousness. So unlike earthly marriage, nakedness even within the marriage to Jesus is sinful. There are just some areas of the body that God does not like, and He even had Moses wear very well covered underwear even when He had other clothes on.

I am 41 and I still haven't found a wife. It will be great for me when I get to Heaven where there is no marriage because then I wont feel left out. And in Heaven there will be much better relationships than marriage where everyone loves each other as brother and sister in Christ. And the best relationship of all will be with God Himself.

@1234567mrbob

5 жыл бұрын

So, seriously? You're content with that? You have "brothers and sisters" in the Lord in this life. You go to church with them, sing with them, stand in the "fellowship hall" and smell their perfume and cologne, eat stale donuts and drink instant coffee with fake powdered cream with them, talk about sports and weather and shit you could care less about with them..... and THAT'S what you think you're looking forward to in eternity? Sorry, I AM married, and I look forward to more than that in heaven. I don't buy that stale donut message. "Fellowship with the 'brothers and sisters in Christ'" --- pleeeeze!!!!

@James5877

5 жыл бұрын

Our relationships in Heaven will be much better, because there wont be anymore selfishness or sin of any kind, only perfect love. The relationship between a husband and wife in Heaven will be that of a brother and sister in Christ. But by far, the greatest relationship in Heaven will be with God Himself. We will actually see His face and talk with Him in person. Some of you married people have not yet learned to find everything you need in God because you depend on your spouse to make you happy. A relationship with God is far better.

@1234567mrbob

5 жыл бұрын

My only contention to that is that Adam did stand in the presence of God. He did see God face to face. Yet even in that state God said it is not good for the man to be alone. He said I will make a helpmate for him. Why is what's good for Adam not good for us in heaven? It makes no sense. Your message about relationships with brothers and sisters in Christ is a worn out cliché. You have no idea how many people, married _and_ single, are turned off by it.

@pergunnarvikmjlhus3597

5 жыл бұрын

But me and God don't relate like that! I talk to him the same way I talk to Delphi, for example. In other words, I only talk about girls. My interests are not the same as yours. I want God to make music (mostly about girls) with me. Can you imagine how awesome that would be. I want someone who is perfect to help me with my music. I'm not an emotional guy. I just want to be like "hey, mix this snare for me with godly precision please!" Music production is life! I mean, if you want to talk about something else than women for one second. Perhaps I'll be using new instruments in Heaven, like the shofar or something lol! Or maybe I'll go and sample David's lute! Then I'll actually have something to talk about in the fellowship hall. "Hey ma'am, check out my new track!" "I brought a gift, here's a cowbell with "Eat your heart out, I'm married to Jesus" written on it for you, that you may use during my concerts!" I would much rather stay at my mansion though. That fellowship hall really makes me yawn. Can I at least bring a labtop to that fellowship hall then. So I can put on headphones and do something else while I'm eating my stale donut.

@1234567mrbob

5 жыл бұрын

"I am 41 and still haven't found a wife. It will be great for me when I get to Heaven where there is no marriage because then I won't feel left out".... Ok... How about if I re-word it like this? I am 41 and blind. "It will be great if I get to heaven and everyone can't see because then I won't feel left out". Do you see how ridiculous that reasoning is?

The spiritual beauty of Jesus will be better than erotic beauty of a husband and wife in earthly marriage. The fellowship of men and women in heaven will be better than erotic love between a husband and wife.