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@tonyatwood95054 жыл бұрын
I met Jimmy Ellis in 1978 at Deer Lake Pennsylvania, as part of an invitation amateur team. It was a big thrill indeed, Jimmy Ellis was a gentleman
@tylerroberts9556
4 жыл бұрын
I'm envious. That's is quite the honor. I'm glad you got to meet him, and if he is the gentleman you say he is, than that makes it all the much better.
@connshawnery6489
2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I thought I distinctly heard the announcer call him ‘Jimmy Young’ at around the 34:00 mark.
@jamok310 жыл бұрын
all frazier fights are gold to me.
@leodavies9383
3 жыл бұрын
hes a fun fighter, but when hes leaning on the other guy its sometimes boring
@slabathonfury3879
3 жыл бұрын
You and me both, homie.
@ryandelmar79695 жыл бұрын
Two of the boxers who made their era the golden age of heavyweights. Thanks for posting this important piece of boxing history.
@tonygoodwin28345 жыл бұрын
what great men Joe and Jimmy were - real gentlemen outside the ring too. RIP to the legends Joe and Jimmy we miss you
@mikkyelee14515 жыл бұрын
A great fight from 2 former heavyweight champions
@paulcooper57485 жыл бұрын
I was there Love smokin joe R.I.P joe frazier.
@ShurlockHolmes
Жыл бұрын
I'm jealous. He is one of my heros.
@paulcooper5748
Жыл бұрын
@@ShurlockHolmes He's one of my hero's also love smokin joe.
@tommyvette9696 жыл бұрын
Dundee is a good man his fighter could have been maimed for life he stopped just at the right time.
@robrubio53034 жыл бұрын
With that hair and side burns Ellis reminded me of Sly Stone
@eddielester35893 жыл бұрын
Amazing how Jimmy Ellis fought a much better fight this time than he did in the first fight. He is just not on Frazier's level. Frazier even said that Ellis fought a very smart fight.
@uncjim10 жыл бұрын
Jimmy had the skills but never the size or strength of a natural heavyweight to deal with the likes of Smokin' Joe. What struck me about this rematch was the courage of Jimmy Ellis. Simply getting back into the ring with this guy after the first fight and giving everything he had said it all. Jimmy was a Warrior.
@biggjuntao3090
3 жыл бұрын
When you got bills, that’s enough courage for anybody 💯😂
@MyVeryHappyDay
3 жыл бұрын
Ellis never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
@abudujana13 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video, LEFTHOOK
@uncjim10 жыл бұрын
Rest in Peace Jimmy.
@paulcooper57484 жыл бұрын
I was there.
@giannipisa597810 жыл бұрын
Good ol` Joe , always letting it all hang out
@vincentbarbeau30312 жыл бұрын
The referee Bob Foster another boxing legend.
@voltronkennels7 жыл бұрын
Everybody's talking bout how Joe was shot at this point well he fought Ali to the point of almost death after this and let's not forget these guys dodged nobody in this day they fought the beat there was. And to call Jimmy a third rate fighter what a insult this guy was one fight here from a World title bout if he had won this bout.
@mdmcdd1117
7 жыл бұрын
Ellis was a former world champion, but they were both far from their primes here.
@tlig
6 жыл бұрын
Frazier dodged plenty fighters.
@michaelares4240
4 жыл бұрын
MRWRESTLING PENNSYLVANIA he was a third rate fighter. Was given the decision again against Quarry. Ko by Frazier
@michaelares4240
4 жыл бұрын
tlig like who
@kentaappel
3 жыл бұрын
Frazier took this fight as a tune up as Ellis' style was similar to Ali's. Frazier earned his title shot with his win over Quarry
@pukulu6 жыл бұрын
Frazier was in better shape than Ellis. Frazier was still landing heavy hooks at the end and Ellis was just taking them without responding.
@orbyfan Жыл бұрын
It's unusual to see a fight in the sunshine, with the wind blowing, as late as 1975.
@1Tomrider4 жыл бұрын
For me, Joe Frazier was the most exciting fighter ever! While boxing's Golden Age was dominated by Ali, Frazier, and Foreman, the tier right below them was excellent, with many fighters - Ellis included - who could have been champions in other eras.
@paulymar5996
3 жыл бұрын
To reinforce what you are saying about the heavyweight division in the 1970s, I was watching a 1973 bout between Earnie Shavers and Jerry Quarry. Before the fight the announcer says: "Shavers is 46-2, with 45 of his 46 wins coming by knockout...18 coming in the first round. He's won 34 fights in a row. He is currently ranked SIXTH in the division." Unbelievable that kind of record got him ranked sixth among contenders at that time. (Of course Quarry was a decent fighter also and proceeded to knock out Shavers in the first round).
@johngerard32187 жыл бұрын
For a blown up middleweight, Ellis did very well. He beat Bonavena (flooring him twice), Quarry, and Chuvalo. He also beat Patterson, but, Floyd got robbed on that one thanks to "the best referee money can buy"
@MyVeryHappyDay
3 жыл бұрын
Ellis lost to Floyd. You and your paid off ref theory is caca.
@raysierra4194
2 жыл бұрын
Ellis also beat leotis Martin...leotis Martin knocked out old Liston.k nocked him unconscious....also sonny banks(first one to knock down Ali) died after his fight with leotis Martin
@stevensicherman4101 Жыл бұрын
Frazier reminded me of Marciano. That would have been a helluva fight
@lenklingen20739 жыл бұрын
Jimmy shot at this point..Good chin and courage all that was left..He was a very good heavyweight previously..
@leodavies9383
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah anyone who can win a world title is good in my books
@jonglewongle34382 жыл бұрын
This was given as the foremost heavyweight bout ever to grace Australia, like as in unprecedented. Probably was. Ellis actually boxed really well in the first round, did some good point scoring. Got caught with a couple of clean hits by Frazier, but he categorically won that first round, at least.
@joeygonzo3 жыл бұрын
Nobody made opponents miss like Joe
@jjs49015 күн бұрын
Like a lot of fans of heavyweight boxing I'm from Philly and a huge Joe Frazier, admirer. I'm 5'11 and I met Joe Frazier in 72 shook his hand and he wasn't as tall as me. For a small heavyweight he was Dynamite. With a huge heart. That second Ali fight in New York where Ali was holding him Ali should have been disqualified.. he held Frasier all night. But Joe was never going to be Foreman, Joe style was made for Foreman. In the old adage of a big heavyweight will be a a smaller heavyweight almost every time. Joe had nothing to be ashamed of what a great career. He was awesome, Rip Joe.
@sliat19816 жыл бұрын
Fight in the middle of the afternoon
@fliprack12 жыл бұрын
for a legend frazier never had many fights did he? like tyson of aggressive style, these guys don't seem to last long. R>I>P> anyway
@bobbylove36477 жыл бұрын
I always viewed this fight as sparring for Frazier , he knew he could put him away when he wanted. Frazier was not even close to the 1971 Frazier though 😐
@mdmcdd1117
7 жыл бұрын
Ali took a lot out of him in 71.
@3anibal4 Жыл бұрын
A serious question, for expert boxing fans: who will win between Fraizer (in his prime) and Tyson (in his prime) ???
@worldobserver3515
Жыл бұрын
Tyson.
@active.7universal
Жыл бұрын
Frazier had more will , better chin and was willing to take alot more damage than Tyson.. if Tyson couldn't get him out in 3 rounds it's bazooka Joe
@steelcurtainsteeler2249
10 ай бұрын
Frazier had the heart of Hollfield, if Mike didn't get him in the first few rounds Mike would get frustrated like he did in the first fight with Holifield and eventually Joe would catch Mike with a left hook.
@carspivАй бұрын
Bob Foster did a great job stopping the fight when he did. Ellis was finished.
@flexkeabetsweletshabo58923 жыл бұрын
This is serious. What a fight.
@burtonrivera52533 жыл бұрын
Always had the impression Joe held back on this one....Jimmy Ellis fought alot of top heavyweights, but considering he had Angelo Dundee in his cor er only helped about a quarter of the time. He was a blown-up middleweight with 5 losses when he made the jump. Call him and Patterson and Quarry heavyweights, but these guys were giving up 15-20 lbs. A fight, at least.
@danielhkhk72832 ай бұрын
Only Foreman could really avoid the left hook of Frazier.
I feel it was less to do with Ellis fighting a better fight and more to do with Frazier’s physical attributes slowly deteriorating. Frazier did win but he also took a lot of shots in this fight.
@leodavies93833 жыл бұрын
Jimmy Ellis clinch a lot so he doesn't get knocked out again
@theiraqi43753 жыл бұрын
losing confidence in his punches when fighting Joe is the first thing that opponents find out ..
@user-bq8he2xt2w10 ай бұрын
У них что,2 боя было?😲
@joeblow20692 жыл бұрын
What was the purpose for this fight? Ellis was 1-4-1 in his previous 6 fights including a 1 rd stoppage to Shavers.
@lindzimcolzwane6761
Жыл бұрын
The Reason Ellis Took The Fight was to Work and Get Paid.
@worldobserver3515
Жыл бұрын
@@lindzimcolzwane6761 and Angelo saved him from be KO'd.
@Mr.56Goldtop3 жыл бұрын
I think Jimmy Ellis had delusions of grandeur about being heavyweight champion. He should have fought as a light heavyweight. I think he would have done very well at that weight.
@davidbrandel1311
3 жыл бұрын
Floyd Patterson once said that he’d rather be a pretty good heavyweight than a great light heavyweight. The HW division is always where the big money has been.
@Cefdfsacq11 жыл бұрын
Crowd is booing this action? They would have strung up Chris slap and grab Byrd. You Aussies are a tough crowd!
@toledojack8811 жыл бұрын
wow i just realized thats bob foster refereeing lol
@louduva9849
4 жыл бұрын
Bizarre, huh?
@leodavies9383
3 жыл бұрын
bob foster who got knocked out by joe frazier?
@jjs490
3 жыл бұрын
@@leodavies9383 of course that's him....
@brucelennon92242 жыл бұрын
Smokin' Joe was better than what he got credit for ...just lost 4 fights to same two men ...he gave Ali a good going over...he's gone toe to toe with some tough cookies and won including Jimmy Ellis ...but he's Boxing Hall of fame as top 10 .....
@bashirhayek52555 жыл бұрын
I’m not even sure why they matched Ellis with Joe Frazer. He was coming off loosing streaks & knockouts scores against him. So how can the commentators say he was one fight away to challenge for World Heavyweight Championship, when he was loosing to sub par opponents. For Frazer to fight Ellis was seen as a easy fight. He wanted a tune up fight & that was what it was. Frazer could’ve fought better opponents, but he did not want to take risks.
@conorgrennan983
Жыл бұрын
Why would he risk a tirle shot and a pay day with ali fighting norton. Lyle and shavers were both beaten by quarry and joe beat quarry so he deserved his title shot
@larrryvw2795 жыл бұрын
Commentator very inaccurate on calling punches. Calling huge right and lefts that stunned but didn't even connect.
@hmldjr5 жыл бұрын
Is that Tommy Burns the ex world champ?
@rory693
5 жыл бұрын
Tommy Burns died in 1955
@garrison9688 жыл бұрын
Ellis just did not have the footwork here, he stayed too much in front of Frazier. Both of these guys had declined since their first fight. But man did Ellis have guts and a chin.
@mdmcdd1117
7 жыл бұрын
He couldnt escape Joe. Joe's punches are slower but still murderous.
@arjundev8090
5 жыл бұрын
Frazier had more gutts than him & more strong chin he stood after putting 8 times by GEORGE FOREMAN who the hell could do that!? He s the greatest Smokin Joe Frazier Smokin Joe frazier!
@richardgiron1234 жыл бұрын
Ali beat both Frazier, Ellis and the referee in his career!
@steveu449
3 жыл бұрын
And Frazier beat Ali, Ellis and Foster!
@kevinmunday57825 жыл бұрын
cavemen at the end booing. obviously jimmy had enough, angelo did right thing ....
@sportshistorybuff5 жыл бұрын
Those who want to argue that clutching and holding are legitimate parts of fighting need to ask themselves why Referee Bob Foster warns Ellis to stop doing that early in the fight? Thousands of referees have done the same thing over professional boxing's history. It is why Henry Akinwande was disqualified against Lennox Lewis, and why Ali's "victory" over Frazier in 1974 was so fraudulent. Professional boxing is about aggression, and clinging to your opponent is not aggressive, it is an avoidance of fighting which cheats both the opponent and the spectator.
@davidbrandel1311
4 жыл бұрын
sportshistorybuff several of Ali’s “victories” could not have been accomplished without his constant holding. I also think that Buster Douglas and Lennox Lewis were both aided by excessive holding against Mike Tyson. In Lewis’ case it was extreme, as he was not only holding Tyson, but leaning his entire body weight on him in the FIRST round. Anyone who has ever wrestled in high school or college could tell you how exhausting it is to try and free yourself from the grasp of an opponent that won’t let go. Getting back to Ali, I think he did more to ruin the sport of boxing by normalizing holding.
@vgr112261
Жыл бұрын
Please. Jack Johnson clinched and held. So did Gene Tunney. It’s a tactic.
@TheAssasin25255 жыл бұрын
Damn man... you can't put out a better copy of this video?? Lol
@anthonywilliams12844 жыл бұрын
Ali ali ali ali ali
@RobRivShowsLive01
4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Williams Frazier Frazier Frazier Frazier
@anthonywilliams1284
4 жыл бұрын
@@RobRivShowsLive01 ali beat him twice
@albanyorganics3030
3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywilliams1284 The judges beat him.
@Rei_Tatekei
2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywilliams1284 Nope
@chrisshanholtzer5434 Жыл бұрын
Joe Frazier was my favorite when I was a kid growing up in the household with my mother from the south of my dad from Detroit Chicago area I witness the prejudice of course the arguments to for my mom and dad about the racial issues in the 60s but I had a picture of Joe Frazier on my bedroom wall and my dad thought it was cool and but my mom didn’t get it but she finally got it later though she learned to appreciate African-American culture and the people the pride and even Joe Frazier go figure she was born and raised in the south anyone can change thanks smokin Joe you change somebody whether you know it or not
@Kerbee11 жыл бұрын
Joe had nothing left. Even his punch was gone. Compare this fight with the first one. Ali vs. Frazier I and the fight with George Forman reduced Joe to a 3rd rate fighter.
@Rei_Tatekei
2 жыл бұрын
You forgetting his performance in Manila
@clevelandwilliams5922
Жыл бұрын
You forget not training and remaining in top condition does that. His layoff of a year between Ali 1 & Terry Daniels was what accelerated his downfall.
@mr.staples51136 ай бұрын
Jimmy Ellis was a bum, he didn't have anything.
@quality3335 жыл бұрын
frazier was inactive after he beat ali the first time and same when he got cloberred by Foreman the first time . He practically ducked all the big contenders and when he did fight they were usually the easy ones in which he couldnt lose like Stander and Ellis
@rory693
5 жыл бұрын
quality333 Frazier fought in a division that was at the time the deepest in its history. Fought Foreman and Ali multiple times both of which are top 4 of all time. Beat Bonavena, Quarry and Chuvalo and Machen on the way up. All this with physical disadvantages like height and reach and to cap it off he had impaired vision and high blood pressure.
@Rei_Tatekei
2 жыл бұрын
He didn't duck nobody all the contenders were beaten by Quarry which is why they had a rematch
@fredericavalli9 жыл бұрын
Everybody here say that Ellis wath only the shadow of 1970,but what to say about Frazier?In 1975,if Ali "boxed" him,he would dominate him easily,but his strategy to "fight" him was almost suicide.
@blite13
8 жыл бұрын
Frédéric Avalli you don't understand fighting. Joe put on pressure that MADE his opponents fight him. Ali couldn't just box him, he had to fight him. Same with Ray Leonard vs Duran in Montreal. Leonard had to FIGHT, Duran was just as fast as Ray that night and Ray had to fight. Same with Ali vs Frazier, Ali had to fight him, when your opponent can cutoff the ring as fast as you can move around the ring....you have no choice, you have to fight.
@fredericavalli
8 жыл бұрын
blite13 You think to be a specialist,so you will find an answer to my question:how the hell Ali beat Frazier (my idol anyway) or Leonard and Leonard beat Hagler?
@blite13
8 жыл бұрын
Frédéric Avalli How did Ali beat Frazier? Watch the fight. How did Frazier beat Ali, watch the fight. Ray beat Marvin because he waited until Marvin's legs were shot before he would fight him. Ray beat Duran because Duran was so out of shape he could hardly throw a combo of punches and his foot work was horrible. In Montreal,Duran was just as fast as Ray. In '71, Joe was just as fast as Ali and Joe was a lot tougher than Ali thought he was. If you let a guy 'box' you and you are being outboxed, you deserve to lose. They way to beat a 'mover/boxer' is to make him fight. That's what Joe did, same with Duran, you saw the results.
@blite13
8 жыл бұрын
Frédéric Avalli Same way Marvin beat Hearns. If Marvin would have boxed Tommy, he loses. He made Tommy fight and it was a good strategy.
@fredericavalli
8 жыл бұрын
blite13 But he lost against Leonard.Hearns was K.O. after 3 rounds because he was overconfident and fought to K.O. Hagler in spite of boxing him:here too it was pure suicide.He could have danced at least 7 or 8 rounds winning several rounds,Hagler had always been a slow starter "studying" his opponents in the first 3 rounds,excepted the bums he could K.O in the very first round.
@lendrury27713 жыл бұрын
Ellis was an overrated bum . A glorified sparring partner
@pavarotti744
Жыл бұрын
Drury an apt name.....the original blockhead.
@TheBatugan77
7 ай бұрын
@len 👈💩 Lenny boy... Let me be polite. You're an ignorant turd.
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I met Jimmy Ellis in 1978 at Deer Lake Pennsylvania, as part of an invitation amateur team. It was a big thrill indeed, Jimmy Ellis was a gentleman
@tylerroberts9556
4 жыл бұрын
I'm envious. That's is quite the honor. I'm glad you got to meet him, and if he is the gentleman you say he is, than that makes it all the much better.
@connshawnery6489
2 жыл бұрын
Nice. I thought I distinctly heard the announcer call him ‘Jimmy Young’ at around the 34:00 mark.
all frazier fights are gold to me.
@leodavies9383
3 жыл бұрын
hes a fun fighter, but when hes leaning on the other guy its sometimes boring
@slabathonfury3879
3 жыл бұрын
You and me both, homie.
Two of the boxers who made their era the golden age of heavyweights. Thanks for posting this important piece of boxing history.
what great men Joe and Jimmy were - real gentlemen outside the ring too. RIP to the legends Joe and Jimmy we miss you
A great fight from 2 former heavyweight champions
I was there Love smokin joe R.I.P joe frazier.
@ShurlockHolmes
Жыл бұрын
I'm jealous. He is one of my heros.
@paulcooper5748
Жыл бұрын
@@ShurlockHolmes He's one of my hero's also love smokin joe.
Dundee is a good man his fighter could have been maimed for life he stopped just at the right time.
With that hair and side burns Ellis reminded me of Sly Stone
Amazing how Jimmy Ellis fought a much better fight this time than he did in the first fight. He is just not on Frazier's level. Frazier even said that Ellis fought a very smart fight.
Jimmy had the skills but never the size or strength of a natural heavyweight to deal with the likes of Smokin' Joe. What struck me about this rematch was the courage of Jimmy Ellis. Simply getting back into the ring with this guy after the first fight and giving everything he had said it all. Jimmy was a Warrior.
@biggjuntao3090
3 жыл бұрын
When you got bills, that’s enough courage for anybody 💯😂
@MyVeryHappyDay
3 жыл бұрын
Ellis never had the makings of a varsity athlete.
Thanks for the video, LEFTHOOK
Rest in Peace Jimmy.
I was there.
Good ol` Joe , always letting it all hang out
The referee Bob Foster another boxing legend.
Everybody's talking bout how Joe was shot at this point well he fought Ali to the point of almost death after this and let's not forget these guys dodged nobody in this day they fought the beat there was. And to call Jimmy a third rate fighter what a insult this guy was one fight here from a World title bout if he had won this bout.
@mdmcdd1117
7 жыл бұрын
Ellis was a former world champion, but they were both far from their primes here.
@tlig
6 жыл бұрын
Frazier dodged plenty fighters.
@michaelares4240
4 жыл бұрын
MRWRESTLING PENNSYLVANIA he was a third rate fighter. Was given the decision again against Quarry. Ko by Frazier
@michaelares4240
4 жыл бұрын
tlig like who
@kentaappel
3 жыл бұрын
Frazier took this fight as a tune up as Ellis' style was similar to Ali's. Frazier earned his title shot with his win over Quarry
Frazier was in better shape than Ellis. Frazier was still landing heavy hooks at the end and Ellis was just taking them without responding.
It's unusual to see a fight in the sunshine, with the wind blowing, as late as 1975.
For me, Joe Frazier was the most exciting fighter ever! While boxing's Golden Age was dominated by Ali, Frazier, and Foreman, the tier right below them was excellent, with many fighters - Ellis included - who could have been champions in other eras.
@paulymar5996
3 жыл бұрын
To reinforce what you are saying about the heavyweight division in the 1970s, I was watching a 1973 bout between Earnie Shavers and Jerry Quarry. Before the fight the announcer says: "Shavers is 46-2, with 45 of his 46 wins coming by knockout...18 coming in the first round. He's won 34 fights in a row. He is currently ranked SIXTH in the division." Unbelievable that kind of record got him ranked sixth among contenders at that time. (Of course Quarry was a decent fighter also and proceeded to knock out Shavers in the first round).
For a blown up middleweight, Ellis did very well. He beat Bonavena (flooring him twice), Quarry, and Chuvalo. He also beat Patterson, but, Floyd got robbed on that one thanks to "the best referee money can buy"
@MyVeryHappyDay
3 жыл бұрын
Ellis lost to Floyd. You and your paid off ref theory is caca.
@raysierra4194
2 жыл бұрын
Ellis also beat leotis Martin...leotis Martin knocked out old Liston.k nocked him unconscious....also sonny banks(first one to knock down Ali) died after his fight with leotis Martin
Frazier reminded me of Marciano. That would have been a helluva fight
Jimmy shot at this point..Good chin and courage all that was left..He was a very good heavyweight previously..
@leodavies9383
3 жыл бұрын
Yeah anyone who can win a world title is good in my books
This was given as the foremost heavyweight bout ever to grace Australia, like as in unprecedented. Probably was. Ellis actually boxed really well in the first round, did some good point scoring. Got caught with a couple of clean hits by Frazier, but he categorically won that first round, at least.
Nobody made opponents miss like Joe
Like a lot of fans of heavyweight boxing I'm from Philly and a huge Joe Frazier, admirer. I'm 5'11 and I met Joe Frazier in 72 shook his hand and he wasn't as tall as me. For a small heavyweight he was Dynamite. With a huge heart. That second Ali fight in New York where Ali was holding him Ali should have been disqualified.. he held Frasier all night. But Joe was never going to be Foreman, Joe style was made for Foreman. In the old adage of a big heavyweight will be a a smaller heavyweight almost every time. Joe had nothing to be ashamed of what a great career. He was awesome, Rip Joe.
Fight in the middle of the afternoon
for a legend frazier never had many fights did he? like tyson of aggressive style, these guys don't seem to last long. R>I>P> anyway
I always viewed this fight as sparring for Frazier , he knew he could put him away when he wanted. Frazier was not even close to the 1971 Frazier though 😐
@mdmcdd1117
7 жыл бұрын
Ali took a lot out of him in 71.
A serious question, for expert boxing fans: who will win between Fraizer (in his prime) and Tyson (in his prime) ???
@worldobserver3515
Жыл бұрын
Tyson.
@active.7universal
Жыл бұрын
Frazier had more will , better chin and was willing to take alot more damage than Tyson.. if Tyson couldn't get him out in 3 rounds it's bazooka Joe
@steelcurtainsteeler2249
10 ай бұрын
Frazier had the heart of Hollfield, if Mike didn't get him in the first few rounds Mike would get frustrated like he did in the first fight with Holifield and eventually Joe would catch Mike with a left hook.
Bob Foster did a great job stopping the fight when he did. Ellis was finished.
This is serious. What a fight.
Always had the impression Joe held back on this one....Jimmy Ellis fought alot of top heavyweights, but considering he had Angelo Dundee in his cor er only helped about a quarter of the time. He was a blown-up middleweight with 5 losses when he made the jump. Call him and Patterson and Quarry heavyweights, but these guys were giving up 15-20 lbs. A fight, at least.
Only Foreman could really avoid the left hook of Frazier.
"Frazier goes down(under!) Frazier goes down(under!)
I feel it was less to do with Ellis fighting a better fight and more to do with Frazier’s physical attributes slowly deteriorating. Frazier did win but he also took a lot of shots in this fight.
Jimmy Ellis clinch a lot so he doesn't get knocked out again
losing confidence in his punches when fighting Joe is the first thing that opponents find out ..
У них что,2 боя было?😲
What was the purpose for this fight? Ellis was 1-4-1 in his previous 6 fights including a 1 rd stoppage to Shavers.
@lindzimcolzwane6761
Жыл бұрын
The Reason Ellis Took The Fight was to Work and Get Paid.
@worldobserver3515
Жыл бұрын
@@lindzimcolzwane6761 and Angelo saved him from be KO'd.
I think Jimmy Ellis had delusions of grandeur about being heavyweight champion. He should have fought as a light heavyweight. I think he would have done very well at that weight.
@davidbrandel1311
3 жыл бұрын
Floyd Patterson once said that he’d rather be a pretty good heavyweight than a great light heavyweight. The HW division is always where the big money has been.
Crowd is booing this action? They would have strung up Chris slap and grab Byrd. You Aussies are a tough crowd!
wow i just realized thats bob foster refereeing lol
@louduva9849
4 жыл бұрын
Bizarre, huh?
@leodavies9383
3 жыл бұрын
bob foster who got knocked out by joe frazier?
@jjs490
3 жыл бұрын
@@leodavies9383 of course that's him....
Smokin' Joe was better than what he got credit for ...just lost 4 fights to same two men ...he gave Ali a good going over...he's gone toe to toe with some tough cookies and won including Jimmy Ellis ...but he's Boxing Hall of fame as top 10 .....
I’m not even sure why they matched Ellis with Joe Frazer. He was coming off loosing streaks & knockouts scores against him. So how can the commentators say he was one fight away to challenge for World Heavyweight Championship, when he was loosing to sub par opponents. For Frazer to fight Ellis was seen as a easy fight. He wanted a tune up fight & that was what it was. Frazer could’ve fought better opponents, but he did not want to take risks.
@conorgrennan983
Жыл бұрын
Why would he risk a tirle shot and a pay day with ali fighting norton. Lyle and shavers were both beaten by quarry and joe beat quarry so he deserved his title shot
Commentator very inaccurate on calling punches. Calling huge right and lefts that stunned but didn't even connect.
Is that Tommy Burns the ex world champ?
@rory693
5 жыл бұрын
Tommy Burns died in 1955
Ellis just did not have the footwork here, he stayed too much in front of Frazier. Both of these guys had declined since their first fight. But man did Ellis have guts and a chin.
@mdmcdd1117
7 жыл бұрын
He couldnt escape Joe. Joe's punches are slower but still murderous.
@arjundev8090
5 жыл бұрын
Frazier had more gutts than him & more strong chin he stood after putting 8 times by GEORGE FOREMAN who the hell could do that!? He s the greatest Smokin Joe Frazier Smokin Joe frazier!
Ali beat both Frazier, Ellis and the referee in his career!
@steveu449
3 жыл бұрын
And Frazier beat Ali, Ellis and Foster!
cavemen at the end booing. obviously jimmy had enough, angelo did right thing ....
Those who want to argue that clutching and holding are legitimate parts of fighting need to ask themselves why Referee Bob Foster warns Ellis to stop doing that early in the fight? Thousands of referees have done the same thing over professional boxing's history. It is why Henry Akinwande was disqualified against Lennox Lewis, and why Ali's "victory" over Frazier in 1974 was so fraudulent. Professional boxing is about aggression, and clinging to your opponent is not aggressive, it is an avoidance of fighting which cheats both the opponent and the spectator.
@davidbrandel1311
4 жыл бұрын
sportshistorybuff several of Ali’s “victories” could not have been accomplished without his constant holding. I also think that Buster Douglas and Lennox Lewis were both aided by excessive holding against Mike Tyson. In Lewis’ case it was extreme, as he was not only holding Tyson, but leaning his entire body weight on him in the FIRST round. Anyone who has ever wrestled in high school or college could tell you how exhausting it is to try and free yourself from the grasp of an opponent that won’t let go. Getting back to Ali, I think he did more to ruin the sport of boxing by normalizing holding.
@vgr112261
Жыл бұрын
Please. Jack Johnson clinched and held. So did Gene Tunney. It’s a tactic.
Damn man... you can't put out a better copy of this video?? Lol
Ali ali ali ali ali
@RobRivShowsLive01
4 жыл бұрын
Anthony Williams Frazier Frazier Frazier Frazier
@anthonywilliams1284
4 жыл бұрын
@@RobRivShowsLive01 ali beat him twice
@albanyorganics3030
3 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywilliams1284 The judges beat him.
@Rei_Tatekei
2 жыл бұрын
@@anthonywilliams1284 Nope
Joe Frazier was my favorite when I was a kid growing up in the household with my mother from the south of my dad from Detroit Chicago area I witness the prejudice of course the arguments to for my mom and dad about the racial issues in the 60s but I had a picture of Joe Frazier on my bedroom wall and my dad thought it was cool and but my mom didn’t get it but she finally got it later though she learned to appreciate African-American culture and the people the pride and even Joe Frazier go figure she was born and raised in the south anyone can change thanks smokin Joe you change somebody whether you know it or not
Joe had nothing left. Even his punch was gone. Compare this fight with the first one. Ali vs. Frazier I and the fight with George Forman reduced Joe to a 3rd rate fighter.
@Rei_Tatekei
2 жыл бұрын
You forgetting his performance in Manila
@clevelandwilliams5922
Жыл бұрын
You forget not training and remaining in top condition does that. His layoff of a year between Ali 1 & Terry Daniels was what accelerated his downfall.
Jimmy Ellis was a bum, he didn't have anything.
frazier was inactive after he beat ali the first time and same when he got cloberred by Foreman the first time . He practically ducked all the big contenders and when he did fight they were usually the easy ones in which he couldnt lose like Stander and Ellis
@rory693
5 жыл бұрын
quality333 Frazier fought in a division that was at the time the deepest in its history. Fought Foreman and Ali multiple times both of which are top 4 of all time. Beat Bonavena, Quarry and Chuvalo and Machen on the way up. All this with physical disadvantages like height and reach and to cap it off he had impaired vision and high blood pressure.
@Rei_Tatekei
2 жыл бұрын
He didn't duck nobody all the contenders were beaten by Quarry which is why they had a rematch
Everybody here say that Ellis wath only the shadow of 1970,but what to say about Frazier?In 1975,if Ali "boxed" him,he would dominate him easily,but his strategy to "fight" him was almost suicide.
@blite13
8 жыл бұрын
Frédéric Avalli you don't understand fighting. Joe put on pressure that MADE his opponents fight him. Ali couldn't just box him, he had to fight him. Same with Ray Leonard vs Duran in Montreal. Leonard had to FIGHT, Duran was just as fast as Ray that night and Ray had to fight. Same with Ali vs Frazier, Ali had to fight him, when your opponent can cutoff the ring as fast as you can move around the ring....you have no choice, you have to fight.
@fredericavalli
8 жыл бұрын
blite13 You think to be a specialist,so you will find an answer to my question:how the hell Ali beat Frazier (my idol anyway) or Leonard and Leonard beat Hagler?
@blite13
8 жыл бұрын
Frédéric Avalli How did Ali beat Frazier? Watch the fight. How did Frazier beat Ali, watch the fight. Ray beat Marvin because he waited until Marvin's legs were shot before he would fight him. Ray beat Duran because Duran was so out of shape he could hardly throw a combo of punches and his foot work was horrible. In Montreal,Duran was just as fast as Ray. In '71, Joe was just as fast as Ali and Joe was a lot tougher than Ali thought he was. If you let a guy 'box' you and you are being outboxed, you deserve to lose. They way to beat a 'mover/boxer' is to make him fight. That's what Joe did, same with Duran, you saw the results.
@blite13
8 жыл бұрын
Frédéric Avalli Same way Marvin beat Hearns. If Marvin would have boxed Tommy, he loses. He made Tommy fight and it was a good strategy.
@fredericavalli
8 жыл бұрын
blite13 But he lost against Leonard.Hearns was K.O. after 3 rounds because he was overconfident and fought to K.O. Hagler in spite of boxing him:here too it was pure suicide.He could have danced at least 7 or 8 rounds winning several rounds,Hagler had always been a slow starter "studying" his opponents in the first 3 rounds,excepted the bums he could K.O in the very first round.
Ellis was an overrated bum . A glorified sparring partner
@pavarotti744
Жыл бұрын
Drury an apt name.....the original blockhead.
@TheBatugan77
7 ай бұрын
@len 👈💩 Lenny boy... Let me be polite. You're an ignorant turd.