Jocko: I drank when I was in the military. I drank a lot, probably too much. Echo: ….ʜᴇʟʟ ʏᴇᴀʜ

@elperronimo

2 жыл бұрын

Hell yeah dude

@NickVsqzjr

2 жыл бұрын

I thought this was Derek LOL

@pimesikk6724

2 жыл бұрын

That is way funnier in Text than hearing, decent loled

@georgecoull1883

2 жыл бұрын

Look what you did

@Rhodiac

2 жыл бұрын

@@elperronimo im gay

"He sleeps 5 hours a day"...Jocko doesn't sleep, he waits

@itsdecaylsd551

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@TheMandinotan

2 жыл бұрын

He blinks

@burbsl1672

2 жыл бұрын

Lmao I hope you get the likes you deserve. Great comment

@anthonytorridson5360

2 жыл бұрын

Have you seen this clip of Jocko? kzread.info/dash/bejne/ln5ntY-FeZraiqg.html

@piggypoo

2 жыл бұрын

The image of Jocko laying in bed, with the covers up to his chin, just angrily staring at the ceiling while the clock ticks towards 5AM has me chuckling like an idiot.

Jocko was confronted about his urine testing positive for steroids. Jocko laughed and said, "Well, now you know how they make the stuff!"

@1517the_year

2 жыл бұрын

This didn't get enough love hahaha

@seanelucero

2 жыл бұрын

Hahahaha

@GuyFromTheSouth

2 жыл бұрын

So they use his piss to make steroids? 😂

@homunculus4558

2 жыл бұрын

hahahaha

@ssaiahiimmons

2 жыл бұрын

That was a good one I like how guys like Joko and Goggins have the same cultural memes as the Chuck Norris book now expect it’s all true

Echo: "The whole world thinks you're on steroids." Jocko: "Good!!"

@GM-Mermaid

2 жыл бұрын

This made me laugh

@nike3000ca

2 жыл бұрын

I read this in their respective voices. Hahaa

@pballfan

2 жыл бұрын

It's good & bad. As an industrial athlete (eg: tree work, firefightin, etc), if you get accused, you're pretty much harassed at their convenience to go take piss tests. My company had me driving 6 hours for testing without pay for months, and I finally had to quit.

@ruslanahasan3289

2 жыл бұрын

Time to regroup, re engage and go natty

@matthewchunk3689

2 жыл бұрын

Being big is not a personality. Ho-ly-shii these guys are male bimbos.

Jocko doesn’t read books. He stares them down until he gets the information he wants

@mariamataleo6784

2 жыл бұрын

😁😁

@tazo4870

2 жыл бұрын

ahahha

@HaIsKuL

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be surprised if that's how he got his English degree.

@CrookDanny

2 жыл бұрын

I chortled. Not many things bring me to a full chortle.

@oliveoildwk2856

2 жыл бұрын

Then says "thank you" and walks away

Jocko: "I got friends that smoke weed all day, mushrooms, etc" Me: "Rogan lol".

@kralbenj

2 жыл бұрын

Exactly what I thought

@budalaidiotska6947

2 жыл бұрын

If you think they are friends, you just fooling yourself.

@catzel1ps452

2 жыл бұрын

@@budalaidiotska6947 you jealous or what lol?

@morpheus8233

2 жыл бұрын

Aka echo Charles he loves cannabis

@RealEllenDeGeneres

2 жыл бұрын

The thing is, I'm a veteran and roids are pretty prevalent. So Jocko is being disingenuous by saying you get kicked out for doing drugs. I was on gear along with most of my platoon and I can only imagine it happens on a higher degree in SOF/SF. Not saying he did it, but still.

As a 40 yr old retired marine, TRT saved my life. Not only in addition to giving me energy, but also fixed my depression in addition to mental focus and clarity and fixed shoulder pain from a dislocation back in 2013. There's a lot of health benefits that are being ignored that are important for us older guys.

@RM-ee6lw

2 жыл бұрын

Very interesting, you definitely don't hear those kinds of stories very often in regards to TRT. I'm curious: I understand that TRT gave you the energy or 'motivation', for lack of a better word, to take action on the issues, but surely just taking TRT wasn't the only thing you did. What other changes to your routine did you make? Change your diet at all? Cut out certain things or people?

@beautruex7012

2 жыл бұрын

Semper Fi! TRT helped me out too!

@beautruex7012

2 жыл бұрын

@@RM-ee6lw Ya should change your diet. However, if you do eat poorly having higher levels of test will cause you to burn fat.

@darkmagician1710

2 жыл бұрын

@@RM-ee6lw those stories are actually very common for people who use trt. You will likely see a bigger difference if you are in the low testosterone range than if you are in the normal or high normal range because you are going from being deficient to being at an optimal level. It’s not the same as being on 500 mg of testosterone per week but it can definitely make you more motivated than trying “natural” alternatives. It’s not for everyone though.

@COOTERR

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you feel better man!

Jocko: "If I wanted to look younger I'd dye my hair black, its all grey hahaha" Echo whispers: "Probably a good idea" 😂😂😂

Hearing Jocko say "more plates more dates" made my day

@jamesstanton3280

2 жыл бұрын

Plates of food lol

@bullbythehorns808

2 жыл бұрын

SO FUCKING ALPHA BRO!!!!!!!!!!!!! WARPATH ENHANCED! Good! MULK 🍼

@k.b.6331

2 жыл бұрын

These are weak minded people refusing to accept that some people don't take shortcuts. They're self loathing haters

@tomjaap2933

2 жыл бұрын

​@@k.b.6331 It is not really hating just rumors people have

@RagnarLothbrok2222

2 жыл бұрын

@@bullbythehorns808 GET SUMMMMMMMMM!

This vid is total class. Jocko realizes that Derek’s not being an asshole and he doesn’t shit on him at all. I mean, the nature of ‘natty-or-not’ vids is speculation and Derek has admitted as much many times before. It’s just a bit of fun, in my opinion. Totally understandable to want to dispel rumors when you’re held up as an ideal to many (especially young) people.

@richardnash6111

2 жыл бұрын

You're not wrong but I kinda wanted to fight Derek for his not very well reasoned answer on this one. Citing other BJJ guys as why Jocko is on gear when Jocko competes for fun was really showing how little he knew about BJJ and Jocko. Hell even citing Royce's fight with Saku shows a ton of ignorance about that fight

@BENCHIPED

2 жыл бұрын

Let's be real Dan Bilzerine who was a seal stated many times that all the deal guys were using steroids.it was no secret. Basically said he didn't know anyone in the seals that didn't use. Mexico border just miles away from deal training.

@devinloveridge6805

2 жыл бұрын

@Parallax Dan's really got people thinking he is a Navy Seal 🙄

@kevinpeoples376

2 жыл бұрын

Natty or not videos are stupid and f*cking annoying, they're not "fun". Their entire premise essentially undercuts the hard work and discipline 99% of people with great physiques put into looking the way they do. Whether outright verbalized or not, those videos are essentially saying those people attained their physiques through drugs alone. At least that's how most of the population that's ignorant to everything that goes into being fit and healthy ends up believing.

@richardnash6111

2 жыл бұрын

@@kevinpeoples376 tbf Derek never suggests that. He's pretty realistic on the limitations of gear on someone that doesn't respond to it and talks up how much work it is regardless. But yea many people hear gear/juice head and assume limited effort was put forth to acquire gains. Generally the gear only allows the user to put forth the effort needed for said gains and allows the body to properly use the proteins to create the new muscle.

I grew up with low T. It had cause so many other issues besides being unable to gain muscle, like depression. I went on TRT. I can gain muscle like an average human now and no longer suffer from depression. Some people should actually look at it for treatment considering males today are losing natural T levels.

@jayceorourke5672

Жыл бұрын

What age did you start TRT?

I honestly believed Jocko was on TRT. Didn’t think any less of him, just thought he was on TRT. However, if he says he is not on TRT, then I believe him. It’s incredible that he can accomplish the things he does.

@johncarlevaro943

Жыл бұрын

In my opinion it's not that simple. There are a lot of consequences to acknowledging steroids use if you've been in an organization that in theory bans them, as well as the fact that in the us they're technically illegal. Not to mention the impact it may have on teenagers that are not mature enough to understand that in war there are no rules. Hence, while I'm a big fan of Jocko I think he's just doing what most pde users in the us do. Just political correctness, even though you need to lie

@aaronstanley474

Жыл бұрын

@John Carlevaro I mean your not wrong, but I’ve personally squatted 315 for 18 reps, and I’ve never taken anything before so imo anecdotally, the numbers he is throwing out seem legit and natural, and I was able to get to that with about 4 to 6 months worth of work. Now that may be a far cry from 400lbs for 10 but not nearly as much as you think, I could probably at that time do like 355 for maybe 10, it has alot more to do with conditioning at higher rep ranges on a squat as opposed to strength and just overall conditioning really. When I did 18 I had to warm up to it and it was the last set. Afterwards I puked and had to lay in a puddle of my own sweat for about 30min because I was so dizzy and nauseous. Most people don’t do 20 rep squats so the don’t know but it can really pay dividends if you do it just do it once or twice a month for a couple months.

@FootyFrenzyHD

11 ай бұрын

he's on TRT. All he cares about is money and his image. of course he is on it.

@billj4525

8 ай бұрын

@@FootyFrenzyHD He could be, but he definitely doesn't need to be. He's not that old, and I have family members in their 70s with very good testosterone levels, in the mid 600s or so, which is good for mid 70s. Most people shouldn't ever need TRT if they take care of themselves. There are a lot of myths about TRT, but if someone really needs it then that's fine.

"i got friends that do pot, mushrooms, acid, and alcohol". Yes Jocko, we know you're friends with joe rogan.

@imcoleyourenot8391

2 жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣

@sevinstorey4365

2 жыл бұрын

Rogan is a monster, he’s not a stereotypical pothead or druggie,.. so keep up.

@timanderson5342

2 жыл бұрын

@@sevinstorey4365 ?

@flushing_queens4827

2 жыл бұрын

All those drugs but afraid of the safest vaccine in history. Makes me angry

@jeremyleforce7926

2 жыл бұрын

@@flushing_queens4827 or trusts his immune system more than a vaccine. 🤷‍♂️

He's not on steroids. He's the modern day incarnation of Doom Guy.

@max420thc

2 жыл бұрын

How would you do steroids deployed to Iraq and Afghanistan? How would you do drugs on a military base? The answer is you can’t. You can’t get them.

@dempsey138

2 жыл бұрын

@@max420thc pssst, I don't think he's over there anymore.

@mikek9297

2 жыл бұрын

Wasn't Doom Guy like made of steroids tho ?

@dolan8732

2 жыл бұрын

@@max420thc arrogant and ignorant

@method0123

2 жыл бұрын

Rip and tear but with discipline and extreme ownership

This is what humility and extreme ownership looks like when somebody challenges you. Not grandstanding and chest-puffing and return-fire.

@andrewrossnagel9433

2 жыл бұрын

@@S_225_ I LOLd

Echo pretending to not know the word "sustanon 250" is funny

@harryjohnson370

2 жыл бұрын

Yup! Lol.

@modern.performer

2 жыл бұрын

@Mitch Jacob he knows exactly, trust me

@maxbergman9430

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah he definitely knows, that part was ridiculous. It's not like Sustanon is a difficult word to remember either, so he's definitely full of shit

@josefb.6633

2 жыл бұрын

Both guys are full od s*** here unfortunatelly… I dont get the stigma a why it is an insult if you are not “natty”…

@chrism6904

2 жыл бұрын

I fuckin love me some Sust 250. About to start my cycle with that and SuperDrol.

Jocko reading Derek's quotes is hilarious

@jer3887

2 жыл бұрын

Looks like he called me a.... "Fridge, and a half."

@JordanLOL

2 жыл бұрын

Get Derek on the pod. He's great and a wealth of knowledge.

Jocko IS a controlled substance. Disciplined, motivated, intelligent, trained, aggressive, relentless, and freaking HUGE. You Rock Brother

@IowaRonin

2 жыл бұрын

Jocko's tears are more powerful than steroids. Too bad he's never cried.

@HAYAOLEONE

2 жыл бұрын

Should have had the surgeries to 'gAiN sHoULdERs WiDtH tHo'..

@HAYAOLEONE

2 жыл бұрын

@@BB-wm4ti Check my playlists.

Jocko has easily became one of my favorite podcasts to watch. Especially the military ones but all the content catches my attention and glad I found the channel

Class act. And, legit. This is precisely why I love listening to and watching Jocko.

"I know people who take steroids..." *Stares at Echo Charles intently* >.>

@allyourbase888

2 жыл бұрын

19:20

@sohrabtino

2 жыл бұрын

@@allyourbase888 full of shot(shit) he is definitely on look at those bicep bro god can’t make those😂😂

@allyourbase888

2 жыл бұрын

@@sohrabtino did you click the time stamp?

@sohrabtino

2 жыл бұрын

@@allyourbase888 I did , he just talking about his first experience, its so easy to sell story that are real and make it the whole story , there are shit loads of legal and illegal steroids and performance enhancing drug and trt and test and so many other things that people tell themselves these are not steroids which they fucking are; especially that bicep don’t even doubt it for a sec bro

@allyourbase888

2 жыл бұрын

@@sohrabtino you’re missing the joke buddy

Jocko doesn’t take steroids. Steroids take Jocko

@patrickebrahimi1931

2 жыл бұрын

👏😂💯💯💯

@MossisinaBox

2 жыл бұрын

I think you should persue a career in comedy

@armandomontes5542

2 жыл бұрын

I was looking for this comment 🤣

@spencer1001100

2 жыл бұрын

Chuck Norris checks under his bed for Jocko

@vigil3232

2 жыл бұрын

LoL

In the military I served as part of a support unit for a spec-ops unit. Jocko has that same calm and sober demeanor as the operators in that unit. It's a kind of rare combination of character traits. They're friendly, and have a cool temper, never butthurt or easily agitated, but tough as nails when they need to be. I respect that!

@ThievesInTheTreasureRoom

Жыл бұрын

Yes- very balanced and consistent and doesn't get rattled. If you're not naturally born that way it's a very difficult temperament to maintain.

My uncle is a retired combat controller and current fire fighter. He’s pushing 60 and still wakes up at 5am and hits a 90 freaking pound kettle bell right when he rolls out of bed, then goes to the gym. The closest he’s ever gotten to a PED is MCT oil, and he looks like Jocko. Some dudes are just built different

@alanladd2768

Жыл бұрын

Studies have found that almost all elite power athletes (including sprinters, throwers, and jumpers) have a specific genetic variant in a gene related to muscle composition.

@RogueCylon

Жыл бұрын

Some people just don’t take shortcuts.

@DeathFromAbove_5.56

Жыл бұрын

Jocko juices though baby boi

@1611joshua

Жыл бұрын

@@DeathFromAbove_5.56 it’s funny you state that as a fact, from a vague intuitive feeling. 😂 nuts

@csgoku7613

Жыл бұрын

@@1611joshua no but he is right - it‘s the same thing that it‘s a fact that every guy in the gym who is bigger then you is on gear

😂😂I’d love to see a collab with MPMD

@Born2Losenot2win

2 жыл бұрын

The clash of deltoids

@cavsfan2340

2 жыл бұрын

Jocko might as well test himself send the results and they get on a joint podcast and jocko gets an apology

@CraneArmy

2 жыл бұрын

@@Born2Losenot2win _now on android and ios_

@vbizmo304

2 жыл бұрын

Mpmd is a goof

@reesespieces3379

2 жыл бұрын

Would be a great collaboration!

58:10 "some guy named Dave Bilzarian??" hahaha I love how Dan gets shat on in this because he's total stolen valor, and it's great that Jocko doesn't even know who he is

@voy6r

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you for the time stamp

@philip5467

2 жыл бұрын

Literally the best part 😂

@elrud5964

2 жыл бұрын

He must know of him for sure, he’s shitting on him in a tactical way.

@AJ-ds5gf

2 жыл бұрын

Jocko has known of Bilzarian for years. This was him shtiting on him lmao.

@seanelucero

2 жыл бұрын

I have never heard of any of these people . Alternate universe.

Summary - Jocko does not take steroids or horse dewormer, however, he did get elective augmentation surgery on his brow to enhance black/white filming contrast.

@gickygackers

2 жыл бұрын

thats called hgh

I was in Regular Army Units that deployed (2ACR, 3ID, 3ACR) between 2004-2010 and we had some soldiers (a few) that used steroids and admitted to it. I remember we got drug tested (pot, opioids, cocaine) and when anyone popped hot we were told. I do not remember ever being told someone popped for PED's or anyone getting Article 13'd or court-martialed/kicked-out for steroids. I can sympathize with Jocko because I was a stocky guy who ate a lot and lifted and walked around at 220-230 (natural). Some of the juicers asked me if I juiced or where I "got mine" after they saw me squat or deadlift.

Being referred to as the "pillar of integrity" is one hell of a compliment.

Is it possible that Echo's arms will get so big there's no more room left in the universe?

@Elk-_-

2 жыл бұрын

Of course, obviously

@gregorywilkinson5731

2 жыл бұрын

I think it's probable, but we need to do some more research.

@mattipra

2 жыл бұрын

"Jamie, pull up how big the universe is...It's entirely possible"

@evrettej

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂🤣🎯

@mannys9130

2 жыл бұрын

Echo's arms are likely bigger than the remaining 5-6 compactified dimensions of space. 😁 "My arms are bigger than dimensions 6-11 baby, wanna squeeze them? How about I pick you up with them and carry you to my love lair for a good time? 😎😏😇"

Dan blizarian “all the seals used steroids” Jocko “not those that got after it”

This is a pretty fair and balanced response. No hurt egos, just this was in the video and this is my response. I respect that a lot. Derek doesn't have bad intentions with his videos and it seems to me that you guys know this too. He's often said he doesn't really like doing Natty or Nots but they get a lot of views and people ask for them so he throws them up every now and then. Derek's primary content is educational. I follow Derek's content daily and the dude reminds me regularly that I'm a moron because I don't understand half the stuff he says, but I figure if I listen long enough my brain might actually start retaining the information haha. It is all pretty damn interesting though, and if the Natty or Not is all somebody knows about Derek then it's not really a great representation of his channel at all and I'd highly recommend checking him out.

Supraphysiological doses of protection of youth from the deleterious outcomes of hormone exposure. Extreme ownership of brand image.

@HaIsKuL

2 жыл бұрын

Supraphysiological*

@omnifpv3215

2 жыл бұрын

Fire emoji, clapping hands x2

@basadojamaican

2 жыл бұрын

Lol nice

@rogansherriffs

2 жыл бұрын

Laughing crying face emoji

@KhanJohn7

2 жыл бұрын

I got you guys. Supraphysiological: Denoting any dose (of a chemical agent that either is or mimics a hormone, neurotransmitter, or other naturally occurring agent) that is larger or more potent than would occur naturally, or the effects of such a dose.

Jocko's calm, humorous attitude about this speaks volumes about his character.

@allyourbase888

2 жыл бұрын

19:20

We need more echo Charles talk in our lives dude always sits there silent but I suspect he has some good things to say and knowledge

Here is the whole problem with the subject. Even in this discussion there is a stigma associated with it. There is a big difference between " doing steroids" and being on TRT. He is 50 years old, I would hope he was on TRT and if he is not now he will eventually because as you age your test drops, just the way it is, part of the ageing process. But we now live in a world that we don't have to have a shitty quality of life. Lot more goes in to this conversation. It is just disappointing that there is such a negative stimga with it because there are a lot of people that will benefit greatly from TRT and it has saved a lot of lives I.e. depression, relationships, work ethic et...

@mohammedusman2094

2 жыл бұрын

I'm almost 50 and my test levels are always above 2000

@donkeydave3246

2 жыл бұрын

I just don't believe TRT is necessary if a person has maintained a healthy natural foundation their whole life. From the info I came across, TRT is for people who used roids in their past and their natural hormone production has not been able to recover to the same level before the roids as a result. But obviously we should decide for ourselves, follow our intuitions and individual freedoms

@Apartment10LDN

2 жыл бұрын

Yes! I’ve seen your videos and Instagram posts before about your experience. Really helpful and powerful

@DisFunctor

2 жыл бұрын

seriously. I don't get it either. Why would you get kicked out of your military organization for it, anyway? It'd only help you do your job better. It's not about integrity, it's about common sense. It's not like enemies of our nation are testing their soldiers for performance enhancement... If your enemies only use AK-47s because that's all they can afford, would you limit your own army to use only AK-47's instead of using better weapons because of "integrity"? OTOH I do agree with Mitch Jacob above me. A lot of "regular" people (by which I mean your average adult who works a desk job) who are still young (late 20s, or 30s) are too quick to get on TRT before even trying out the basics e.g. working out regularly, getting good sleep, working on their diet, etc

@erikfournier2569

2 жыл бұрын

@@donkeydave3246 People can have a test deficiency from a plethora of different things… Whether they’re caused by personal choices or genetics it can happen a lot of ways. Not just former roid users at all lmao….

I can't even imagine Jocko on TRT. He would just run through walls, take the presidency by force and create the greatest empire the world has ever seen

@eliunger1033

2 жыл бұрын

I'm dead 💀 lmaooo

@everyoneneedsus

2 жыл бұрын

this comment is so underrated lol

@abunchofiguanaswithinterne2186

Жыл бұрын

Presidents have to have prior special operations experience as a requirement, change my mind

@c.j.t7269

Жыл бұрын

@@abunchofiguanaswithinterne2186 how? Have you seen joe Biden?

@Luisn_n

Жыл бұрын

@@c.j.t7269 that’s special needs not special operations

I’d love a Jocko x MPMD crossover

@mmatrainee

2 жыл бұрын

It would be banned in under a minute, bro.

@gregbredenko2290

2 жыл бұрын

@popo1310023 not sure why you're hating when even Jocko said he watched his videos

@adamunzen6679

2 жыл бұрын

That would be sick! When worlds collide

@kylehoutby7

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregbredenko2290 he's clearly insecure about himself.

@tomjaap2933

2 жыл бұрын

@@gregbredenko2290 just because you take steroids doesn´t mean you don´t have discipline that is a stupid thing to say

Jocko a total class act. Worried about the youth and his impact whether intentional OR not. Hats off!!🤘🏾👊🏾✍🏾🍻

Jocko and I are about the same vintage. I climb trees and cut them down for a living. At 48 I feel like I'm 25ish... But I hurt a lot. I did drugs growing up, I drank a lot after about 13. I never joined the military. And I'm not a bad ass... The shit this guy says... Motivates me. He makes me wanna be a better person. True patriot! Good job dude.

Derek: “A husky mild house of a dude” Jocko: “factual statement”

@johnmagus6341

2 жыл бұрын

Best line from the hour, easy.

@kalash_nikov

2 жыл бұрын

Timestamp?

@kalash_nikov

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, got it 1:05:23

“Echo, are you juicing?” Echo’s biceps; “HAHAHAHA!”

@allyourbase888

2 жыл бұрын

Echo’s head looks like a 3rd bicep

@machinesandthings7121

2 жыл бұрын

And more power to him.

@husseinafzal2335

2 жыл бұрын

😂

@husseinafzal2335

2 жыл бұрын

@Mitch Jacob bro you are dreaming. Go and get educated on roids. Your reply got highlighted because it offers to the lie. I take it your arms are that swole and you have been lifting naturally for year…not. You probably aren’t even half way there bro.

@mohammedusman2094

2 жыл бұрын

@@husseinafzal2335 idio*

I'm just glad Jocko is on our side !! Thank you for your service.

I got so much motivation to drop my bottle habit from this video keep it up your a true hero of mine I followed your story for years and I wish I can be half the man you are keep it up

Echo: "I was already at 240, that was my peak" Me: "Im a solid 280, only thing it took was embracing the power of the twinkie"

@JimmySal1

2 жыл бұрын

Lift fast, eat trash!

I never believed Jocko was on the sauce but Echo? 100%

@maulstar1

2 жыл бұрын

No question. It’s not debatable IMHO.

@martinjnagy

2 жыл бұрын

Gained 50lbs in one year....chicken and broccoli 🤔

@maulstar1

2 жыл бұрын

@@martinjnagy it’s the same when Hollywood actors gain tons of muscle for a movie. Anyone who’s trained hard, drug free knows that it’s just not fucking possible. 10 lbs of lean mass in a year is phenomenal for anyone.

@BostonsF1nest

2 жыл бұрын

@@maulstar1 yea- I mean he was young but still near impossible to gain 50. The most I ever gained was 30lbs but I was 15-16 and was my first year working out consistently

@t0rpid

2 жыл бұрын

4 weeks on shit and didn't notice anything? yep ok lad

Seeing people break down from being critisized on YT isn't uncommon. Seeing vets get critisized and seeing them laugh and jk around about it is what I expected. Nice to see people not dwelling on the negative.

I'm glad this is clarified, starting to realize a lot of folks are not doing things the way I'd like. But hey that's their journey. Thanks for keeping it 100.

MPMD loves you bro, don't think otherwise. he is a really good guy at heart.

@richardnash6111

2 жыл бұрын

Jocko has rung the neck of others for less....

48:28 whoever wrote "fucking sick cranium" needs an award

This world needs more people like Jocko. The man has sat here this whole video talking about someone that has accused him of doing something that is 100% not true. Not one time did Jocko get pissed off, fly off the handle, or start talking shit about Derrick. He literally laughed and made a joke about the whole situation. Jocko for President 2024 🇺🇸 🇺🇸 🤙🤙

Fair play to Echo discussing the sustanon story, alot of respect for him. Integrity is non negotiable.

Hearing Jocko talk about MPMD is so bizarre lmao, been a fan of both for a while

@goldencheese7247

2 жыл бұрын

Same. Weird for sure. OR maybe way LESS weird that you and I thought. 🤔 Regards from Germany

@richardnash6111

2 жыл бұрын

I was a fan of Derek until his video on Jocko. It seemed his biggest reason to accuse Jocko was BJJ and a guy who never passed BUDS...

@imcoleyourenot8391

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardnash6111 he didn’t accuse anyone. He said “he might be on trt.” Lol. I’ve been listening to Jock and Derek for years. There was really no disrespect, and definitely no accusations.

@XxNin10dohgamerxX

2 жыл бұрын

@@imcoleyourenot8391 this

@modern.performer

2 жыл бұрын

@@richardnash6111 lol if you were "a fan" of his "until his Jocko video", you were never a fan

Gym and weightlifting statistics is a good change from the leadership talk.

@Diegomolinams98

2 жыл бұрын

Yes 🔥🔥

@dillonkiuttu

2 жыл бұрын

Check out his other podcasts, it’s typically on other subjects rather then specifically focusing on leadership

@masterwindu1234

2 жыл бұрын

YES MORE OF THIS PLEASE ECHO👍

Flash Backs. I remember being 16 and somebody telling me, "I'm straight edge." I was like "Wtf is that?" "I don't do pot." Back in the early 90s. was an innocent time with drugs. Pot was looked at much differently like it was something really bad, a hard drug, like Meth, and straight edge meant you were against drugs which were hard core like pot, which would be a joke now o days.

i believe jocko is not on roids because his shoulders look very natural nothing looks exagerated. he is just a big guy and trains fucking hard everyday.

Jocko has supraphysiological levels of GOOD.

@KshitijKumar5595

2 жыл бұрын

Good

i love how Jocko has never heard of "Dave Bilzerian" 😀

@gregbredenko2290

2 жыл бұрын

Jocko doesn't associate with the BUD/S duds

@MM-eo2oz

2 жыл бұрын

Nothing against Dan but if I ever saw Jocko posting pictures of himself on a boat with 15 hot girls every week, I would lose all faith in humanity.

@Multi407D

2 жыл бұрын

He has, it was an intentional well deserved dig. Dave Bilzerian LARPS as a seal and lied about how he got his money. Jocko talks about people who talk about buds in another clip, the general tone of that video was disdain.

@MM03116

2 жыл бұрын

Why would he.

Jocko and I went to school together from preschool all the way through high school we weren’t close but I knew him well enough to say it is totally against his nature to ever take anything A drink marijuana steroids. That man is 100% clean.Take my word for it. He is just one of those guys that’s a different breed and it’s all natural.

I love this new content from the podcast. Please make this a series

I feel like the military should have one guy in each unit that's just sauced to the gills. He's like that guy in a video game that takes awhile to bring down.

@rawjer0311

2 жыл бұрын

Heartbreak Ridge, The Swede!👊🤣

@shoyupacket5572

2 жыл бұрын

the final boss except you send him in first lmao

@CerebralFriction

2 жыл бұрын

@@shoyupacket5572 no he's second wave, you gotta soften em up a bit first

@JR-ju3kj

2 жыл бұрын

I don't think that that would be as good an idea as you think it is. One,steroids(AND HGH) are illegal and two,their usage brings all kinds of unhealthy and damaging side effects. You think it's an accident that so many bodybuilders and wrestlers from the WWE(formerly the WWF) have died in their forties and fifties? I'd personally rather be healthy and natural than juiced up on gear. But I do think that steroid use in the U.S. military is much more prevalent than Jocko thinks it is.He's been out for 11 years and he may have friends who are still in but like Echo said,that was a different day. Also,steroid use is reportedly quite prevalent in the British Army and the SAS and SBS,too.

@CerebralFriction

2 жыл бұрын

@@JR-ju3kj War is also bad for your health, it's called taking one for the team lol

We're going to need a Jocko hardcore playlist, please.

@topearnerclub

2 жыл бұрын

facts

It's really crazy for me to listen to these 2 talk about being over 200 lbs and in shape! Lol I'm 6'3" and 175 lbs. I am a lean athlete. I try to stay as light as possible for both competition in bjj and for combat reasons. (If I am wounded I don't want my team to struggle carrying me to safety) much respect to these 2 athletes both for their integrity, openness and discipline.

@dondp7500

2 жыл бұрын

Hmmm BJJ 😏

Loved this DMZ episode. I think I speak for allot of people when I say we love all aspects of Jocko and Echo, but your guys shit talking evolutions are great 😂

Jocko is like if Duke Nukem became a wholesome children's book author who just wants to give you the keys to do well in your life

@robinsok

2 жыл бұрын

Just had to say this is one of the greatest single sentence comments I've ever read.. Well done.

@Theviewerdude

2 жыл бұрын

He's Doom Guy but pet rabbit still alive

@Shamwilder

2 жыл бұрын

Brooooo 🤣👌💯💯💯

5:09 Jocko: "Now I drank when I was in the military. I drank a lot, probably drank too much..." Echo(quietly): "Hell yeah"

“Jocko does TRT. But the R stands for ‘removal’.” - commenter on mpmd vid

Listen to you both... Priceless!!

When jocko takes steroids... The steroids gets jacked up

@lfsa86

2 жыл бұрын

comment award!

@cman8016

2 жыл бұрын

Nicely done 😂

@stephenlamley541

2 жыл бұрын

Clever kudos

“Dave Balzerian” love the fact that Jocko doesn’t even know who he is 😂 just goes to show how irrelevant he is

@lostwithdan4331

2 жыл бұрын

You would be suprised how many people actually don't know all these famous internet people.

@Jitsuman

2 жыл бұрын

@@lostwithdan4331 Dan balzerian is a self proclaimed “Navy Seal” who never finished buds. The guy brings it up but is pretty much stolen valor

@DipperJack

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jitsuman Sounds like a fake ass person to me. I wonder if he’s said he was a SEAL to an actual SEAL and regretted it

@joeyha1323

2 жыл бұрын

@@Jitsuman he’s never said he WAS a seal, but he never was transparent about the whole ordeal tho

@justingreenwood9349

2 жыл бұрын

My buddy Adam F. Howard wrote a book exposing Dan Bilzerian as the fake he is. He was close friends with Dan during Dan’s Navy days. One thing that he discusses in his book, Influencing the Influencer: the Unauthorized Dan Bilzerian Prequel, is the rampant TRT use among SEAL wannabes. There are a few stories of them crossing the border into Mexico that are hilarious!

Being genuinely accused of taking steroids is either going to make you very insecure and paranoid or very frustrated but flattered.

Jocko is a beast. He’s also getting older, that’s okay. Inevitable. I can barely imagine doing the things he does now. TRT makes sense from my perspective. There is zero shame - do what is necessary to be your peak self. So, whether he does or he doesn’t is irrelevant. As long as he keeps playing the game and sharing his wisdom. This content drives views and comments, but it’s not the narrative that’s important, it’s the inspiration. Much love JW, wishing you another 50 powerful years 💪🏼

@gickygackers

2 жыл бұрын

jocko cant do anything accept wake up early, drink green juice, then run with a backpack on lol

@Sfaegbe

2 жыл бұрын

@@gickygackers how useful have you been to society

@gickygackers

2 жыл бұрын

@@Sfaegbe Plenty, like not podcasting or selling books and supplements. Are you telling me that you cant do better than Jock?

@Sfaegbe

2 жыл бұрын

@@gickygackers he is literally a war hero

Jocko has so much damn testosterone that listening to him raises ours. Secondhand TRT basically.

@Chasing.Gr8ness

2 жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@andyfreeman6865

2 жыл бұрын

TRT is made when Jocko donates blood.

Jocko, your mentality could be a religion in itself. So humble. Non judge mental. Driven af. Keep being you man. Some of us are inspired to do better simply because you make it look easy and worth it.

@cavsfan2340

2 жыл бұрын

You're right about jocko and his mental. But those traits are everything religion is not. It's corrupt, not humble, greedy, there's way more I could say but I have to get to work

@joshuadoyle4927

2 жыл бұрын

@@cavsfan2340 It depends on how you define the word religion. I meant the statement as if jocko has a set a standards or moral practices/beliefs that one can find inspirational and try to adopt in order to live an honest and accomplished life. To me that’s religion.

@lebumjames1373

2 жыл бұрын

There’s no way you actually think making an organized religion (cancer) with his mindset would be a good idea.

@joshuadoyle4927

2 жыл бұрын

@@lebumjames1373 again you’re defining the word religion as something that has become “cancer.” I’m sure no religions started as something that was intended to be what some have become. Indoctrinated guidelines for a prosperous and ethical way of life that has been corrupted by the fault of man, not by the guidelines themselves. And religion doesn’t have to be defined as something someone takes and tries to provoke the masses into following. Someone can simply be the only person who practices them principles and looks at it as their own religious (meaning: something to live by) practice.

@Jayyy667

2 жыл бұрын

@@lebumjames1373 commies swing

I had no idea Jocko was into Hardcore music, that's awesome. I have even more respect for him now.

Here's what I understand; Jocko is a very accomplished man and most of his accomplishments came during his time in the military. Due to these accomplishments and his insane work ethic, he serves as a role model to many. It won't serve anyone good to openly admit to steroid use (if he did). I'm certain drug use within the military is strictly prohibited on paper and to the outside world, but the restrictions are more lax among the ranks. It's just what it is.

Having spent some time in the military, many folks in special operations units do take steroids and jab each other. When the safety of your peers and the outcome of a battle could potentially be at stake, who gives a shit if you're taking steroids? The military DOES NOT test for steroids on a routine basis, and unless there is a very glaring suspicion, it's likely you'd never get caught. And especially in special operations, it's well known, and leaders are happy to look the other way. And I have nothing against it.

@rajendrashetti2363

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed. Combat isn't sports competitions. If tht extra stuff helps them haul more ammo and create positive difference in a pitched fight, then go figure! Ofcourse Command wouldn't support it officially but eh SOF guys and REMFs don't mix along well

@Ashtor1337

2 жыл бұрын

Go figure. Figure they would give it to maximize muscle growth

@chriswaters2327

2 жыл бұрын

Once you start you can't stop though

I've listened to you Jocko for many years now and I never thought you were on gear. I'm on TRT and it is a lifetime commitment that I definitely recommend for older fit Men. Only take it when ready for the commitment. Also note you can come off and maintain your natural production by taking HCG, clomid, and HMG

On another note, I've never once sat back and wondered if jocko or Charles was on anything, much less the physicality, the knowledge they speak is the real strength here

I hear the humility in this video....awesome Thank you

Echo "it was called sus sus something, this compound was" you know exactly what it was called 😂

Without seeing a picture of Echo and just hearing his voice you'd think he's 18 not 44. Lol

@JR-ju3kj

2 жыл бұрын

He's like Mike Tyson,his voice doesn't match his appearance.

@boomlightsout

2 жыл бұрын

@@lostalone9320 with skinny knees and ankles 😂

@lilnotpaulite5191

2 жыл бұрын

But he’s a cool as fuck dude

Derek doesn’t chose anyone. His subs request him to do it. So he doesn’t seek anyone out and investigate them. Hell Derek has been honest about his own gear use

@aidanc669

2 жыл бұрын

@@clones365 🙄. Calm down cupcake. Dudes 50 and looks like that. Taking nothing away from him but 50! Listen again 50!!!!!

@westerlytoast5763

2 жыл бұрын

It's a speculative video. If people think that "oh jocko does it, I should". Then they're idiots to begin with lmao

@aidanc669

2 жыл бұрын

@@westerlytoast5763 exactly Derek even said he can never be 100% sure, he’s speculating

@aidanc669

2 жыл бұрын

@@clones365 🤦‍♂️. Steroids doesn’t 100 = cut up 👍. Nice description of me though

@aidanc669

2 жыл бұрын

@@clones365 I’m 41. Lift at least 3 times a week. All I’m saying is steroids are used for more than getting super ripped and shredded. They can be used to get over a plateau when it comes to growth. You don’t have to abuse them. They can be used in moderation, though still not healthy, to get a bit bigger and more solid than your body natural wants to be.that’s all I saying.

I’d never suspect Jocko was on the gear, but 💯 Echo Charles is on the sauce.

The country needs real leadership. Jocko, we need you to run for president.

@michealburns8017

2 жыл бұрын

We got enough people lying to us we don't need him to have a bigger platform to lie to us like he does on here. Him just pretending like he doesn't know people in the military that are currently on steroids or did lots of steroids when they were in there with him especially on the teams is f****** ridiculous he's a f****** liar this breaks every mold of his character every bit of little thing that we thought we knew about him about his leadership is character his honesty that's all out of the window cuz he just sat here and lied straight to our face....

@SGobuck

2 жыл бұрын

@@michealburns8017 when did you serve?

@KyloB

2 жыл бұрын

@@michealburns8017 So what would it take for you to believe him? I feel like with that statement you come across determined to believe that he's juiced, and aren't receptive to the idea that he's natural based on what he has said alone.

This is a crossover I didn't know I wanted.

Nothing wrong with replacement therapy if you are depleted as I was, my total T was 134 which is almost pre pubescent levels, important to block estrogen rebound when adding synthetically as estradiol will elevate with elevated testosterones

That's crazy jocko said almost everyone in his platoon was wellover 200. Clearly, they stopped swimming long distances haha

@OrDuneStudios

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah cause the got shafted urban

"That which can be asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence."

there are litteraly thousands of influencers who claim to be natty, that look way bigger than jocko

@curqo9711

2 жыл бұрын

That doesn't matter at all. Some people who are tiny and barely look like they lift take steroids. It all comes down to diet, exercise regime, genetics and of course, age. Just because Jocko doesn't look like Jay Cutler doesn't mean he isn't on them. For the record, I couldn't give two shits if Jocko was indeed on some form of PED.

@Dukevares1

2 жыл бұрын

What does natty mean lol

@ayevaboo

2 жыл бұрын

@@Dukevares1 natural

@luffebassen

2 жыл бұрын

Everyone responds differently to gear. You can be on gear and still be the smallest guy in the room. Depends on dosage, genetics and how clean you live and how u train. Joc could very easy be on some avg dosage TRT.

@Drplaguescp049

2 жыл бұрын

Mike O'tren has entered the chat*

Respect Jocko a ton, a little surprised he wouldn’t be on something at his age to maintain health with his workouts and schedule, it not shocked either, he has great genetics and a ridiculous work ethic. I’m with him in that never done anything including drinking actually, but I’ve dealt with low t symptoms for years and they’ve gotten worse so my pcp and I agreed I need to see a specialist and have done so, waiting on bloodwork and then going to look at options. Wish more guys were open about this stuff but thankfully it’s better than it was even just a few years ago thanks to people like mpmd

@HeritageCast

2 жыл бұрын

Its almost like Veterans who were exposed to Traumatic Brain Injury require labs and replacement or something?

@vinny6_9

2 жыл бұрын

there is nothing wrong with t/hrt when done for medicinal purpose, such as , potentially, in your case. it's a fact, for near everyone, your t levels start dropping off in your 30s and only get worse, not better as you age.

@Rathbun222

2 жыл бұрын

Fr good luck with the trt dude, I know Reddit is full of absolute dorks but there’s a R/testosterone page where everyone on it is juiced and you can ask them a question and you’ll get good honest answers in minutes ab dosage, estrogen blockers and other supplements that make the ride smoother

@HaloDude557

2 жыл бұрын

I honestly don't believe him. That constant stress on the body and mind takes a toll on your hormone system. Many SOF/SF dudes have to go on TRT in their 30s and 40s because they are completely depressed and weak.

@HeritageCast

2 жыл бұрын

@@HaloDude557 Anyone who has been in the suck has TBI. And these medications saved my life.

The winter of 2019 I decided I wanted bigger deltoids. I was training delts 4 times a week. About 2 months into this, my wife and a buddy asked me if I was taking steroids, because my shoulders were bigger and wider. No steroids, but I was drinking Molk every night with a half scoop of creatine.

Jocko is naturally a good size dude and has been lifting for decades. Consistency is key steroids or not.

@BetaBuxDelux

2 жыл бұрын

Agreed - those years spent in the gym make a difference.

@bengough6955

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah he doesn't look unnaturally big or lean. He just looks like he was always quite broad and has worked out his whole life. It's not THAT hard especially if you're a bigger guy anyway

@barakobama8194

2 жыл бұрын

@popo1310023 are you done crying?

@bigcncguy

2 жыл бұрын

This, Jocko realistically isn’t that big (under 6FT, under 250lbs) obviously very strong for a “old” guy but seems very reachable for natura guys that have worked out forever

@PermanentHigh

2 жыл бұрын

He's also had that thick frame since he was 18. Had the same Giga Chad bone structure

The Image in my head of jocko giving up lifting to be a painter is hilarious, him in the floppy black painter hat 👨‍🎨 😂😂😂

@stephenlamley541

2 жыл бұрын

With a dali tash.

"Jocko uses steroids, that's the conclusion" You should know TRT shouldn't be conflated with steroids. Done correctly, you get upper normal T levels. Derek did not accuse you of steroids / gear which would mean 5x dose of TRT

When I was at Keflavik in 91 there was a bunch of muscle guys in the gym doing steroids. Bad acne and rage .

I am a silly older lady and I can’t relate with any of this or most conversations on Jocko’s podcast and yet I love these guys tons and tons ( ass to the grass squatting tons 😆🥰) always such a good listen 👂 thanks guys!!!

@Likeaworm

2 жыл бұрын

Get on that anavar Kelly 👏 👏

@gunnar4554

2 жыл бұрын

@@Likeaworm Lets gofundme to get Kelly on tren!!

*5 things to quit right now:* *1. Overthinking* *2. Trying to make everyone happy* *3. Living in the past* *4. Worrying* *5. Doubting yourself*

@mikelowry4428

2 жыл бұрын

What a genius..

Hearing Jocko was into hardcore, especially straightedge, as a teen and having him be a huge role model of mine literally made my brain explode.

Hey, good guys..... What would you suggest if someone definitely notices that there are going down the alcohol bad trail? I'm over 50 and I'm not a child and I never drank much before... Masters degree, no marriage/children... It DOES calm anxiety.