4:00 Dufuq!! Dufuq!!

@goldenchanel8891

3 жыл бұрын

Triple H was such an ass kisser to Vince to get ahead and solidify his spot, he married his daughter to get himself more over than other stars. Any1 who believes Triple H didn’t marry Stephanie to get ahead needs to do more research on Triple H’s backstage antics and behaviour

@tecno8335

3 жыл бұрын

Triple h said himself thats what he did. On a Opie and Anthony interview with bill burr and Patrice Oneal.

Dufuq!?!?! Dufuq!?!?! 😂😂😂

"the fuck, the fuuuuck" 😆

I've seen that picture several times and always think Shawn is Stephanie.

@TheDimeDrawer

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

Notice how WWF went to new heights when The Kliq where no more.

@stannisbaratheon3356

5 жыл бұрын

Or..Did they divide and conquer both WcW and WWF?

@SaintHop

5 жыл бұрын

Stannis Baratheon what you said

@guyincognito5706

5 жыл бұрын

Stannis Baratheon Yeah, because if you believe the WWE revisionist history and dvds, yeah, Austin was a star, but...dX iNvAdInG tHe nOrFoLk sCoPe

@timf7413

5 жыл бұрын

Half of them stayed and were a key part of WWE's rise in popularity soon after, while the other half went and did the same for WCW.

@guyincognito5706

5 жыл бұрын

Zdiddy7 That’s why Scott Hall was going to keep his Razor gimmick until WWF filed a lawsuit

Man I need a few seasons of a Netflix show about the history of WWE. WWE can’t be involved though

@jamirimaj6880

3 жыл бұрын

Not just WWE but the NWA and professional wrestling in general. It's really been a long overdue on an intensive documentary on how pro wrestling began.

@Alabama1861

3 жыл бұрын

That will never happen while The McMahons run WWE, they have a tight reign on what is and isn't talked about when it comes to WWE.

@alazkaalazka6087

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alabama1861 it’s really a shame too

@MGBillionaire

3 жыл бұрын

Their documentaries are pretty good

@jusbertmeza4424

3 жыл бұрын

@@Alabama1861 you don’t need permission to make a documentary about history.

.30... you can hear pritchard flicking his lighter to spark his bowl

@thedarktowercometh9989

6 жыл бұрын

13Lazyrus well spotted lol

Makes you wonder why Sean Waltman(1-2-3 Kid,Syxx,X-Pac)wasn't out there.

I can’t imagine a group of “men” calling themselves “the cliq“

@4inchesofpleasure

3 жыл бұрын

Dude, you’re probably middle aged and you watch wrestling 🤦🏻‍♂️Tell me who’s losing here…

@castortroy1506

Жыл бұрын

Undertaker gave them that name

I know Cornette might disagree with me on this, but in hindsight, the Curtain Call was the best thing that could have ever happened to the WWF at that time. Hall and Nash jumped to WCW, formed the NWO with Hogan and as a result, they gave Vince legitimate competition for the first time in what seemed like forever. Stone Cold Steve Austin ended up winning King of the Ring that year as a result of Triple H being punished for his involvement in the Curtain Call, thus giving us one of the two biggest stars(the other being The Rock) in the business of that era. Even though Nitro and Raw had been on the air for some time at this point, this is what really set the Monday Night Wars into motion and allowed both programs to take off.

@Muddfoot3113

Жыл бұрын

Smh

Moving Nash out was the best thing the WWE did

@1burnman

2 жыл бұрын

Totally

Forever old school

I wonder if Vince what do his southern hillbilly impersonation the same way Andy Kaufman did his I think that would be hilarious !!!!!,💯🤔🤔💯😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

@nick56677

2 жыл бұрын

Shouldn't be hard for Vince since it's in his blood. He is from the South, roots and all.

There really needs to be a Dark Side of the Ring episode about this.

@davidholzer4155

3 жыл бұрын

I think it was mentioned on the Screwjob episode

@IsaacBeImont

Жыл бұрын

I agree! What they did to Steve Corino would be punishable by law, today.

Brother Love iSooo agreeable here!

2:20 he forgot about MAX MOON! FROM THE MOON!

Vince is the one who exposed the business in the first place in front of some legislation assembly over not paying sports taxes or something. I remember it was all over the news papers at that time.

@brandonford4474

6 жыл бұрын

Ken DelloSandri he did that to , no longer be under the control of the sports commissions. Which was a good move, that was not consequential. If your a UFC fan you have an idea how bad Athletic Commissions can F things up..

@ICHIBAN-cz8ih

6 жыл бұрын

Eddie Mansfield exposed some of it

@bashnagata3496

4 жыл бұрын

Curtain Call was a work.

@Matt-cr4vv

Жыл бұрын

Yeah this is a major reason why the anger of exposing the business with this has always been silly. The WWF, including Vince and Linda, testified under oath in 1989 that wrestling wasn’t a legitimate sport and was scripted entertainment in order to deregulate and break away from the athletic commissions. The reasons to do so make sense so I get why they did it. But you can’t have it both ways. If you’re willing to reveal it’s scripted to avoid taxes and regulation you can’t suddenly be angry that the business is being exposed yesrs later when you’ve already done so yourself.

@_justinblizzle

Жыл бұрын

@@Matt-cr4vvnah it don’t work like that- I’m the boss, you’re the employee. You don’t take it upon yourself to do stuff like that on your own. You and I are not the same. What Vince does w his business is his business… that doesn’t give Hunter & Shawn permission to go out there and be messy

Vince and Michaels were sleeping together. That's why Vince put up with it.

Dark side of the ring curtain call

awesome thanks you guys

I knew about the kliq back before the curtain call and still can't understand why people sing its praises

I think they should join Jim cornette and Pritchard together to make one podcast they are perfect together.

@theungreatkahli

4 жыл бұрын

I agree. I wish they did that too.

They danced around the Shawn and Vince thing so much it hints that there was a thing

@25EZpcs.

3 жыл бұрын

Nah Bruce said he thinks Shawn did say something about it to Vince but he wasn’t there so he doesn’t know for sure

Which episode of the JCE was this?

Kevin Nash said Vince was cool with it so I've heard.

@The_Real_DCT

5 жыл бұрын

Kevin Nash says alot of shit. Most of it well shit, usually the bull kind.

@timf7413

5 жыл бұрын

Personally, I think Vince probably didn't care until some of the old school guys on his crew started complaining and then he felt like he had to do something to keep the peace.

@joeblack333

3 жыл бұрын

Gotta take history from Nash with a grain of salt. He tends to rewrite it to put himself over.

03:35-04:05 lol

Huh. I wonder if Vince really did say “In business you have to eat shit and like the taste of it!” Because in light of recent revelations about his… proclivities, that’s a bit worrisome.

I'm an old Jim Cornette fan from years and years and years back but that being said it's easy for him to say. I'm sure there were days Vince wanted to fire the whole bunch of them but he knew the day that happened the next week they would all be in WCW and he'd be f*cked. Can you imagine Shawn Michaels instead of being Mr Wrestlemania being Mr Starcade? Kevin Nash and Scott Hall getting there five years earlier? Eventually WCW would have f*cked that up like they f*cked everything up but the shape WWE was in at the time even with them they would have ran Vince out of business with them.

@matthewcollins8602

7 жыл бұрын

Arthur Prior That is an interesting point and very true but the kliq wouldn't have been able to save WCW I don't feel. Austin or something similar was coming and the kliq were on borrowed time.

@arthurprior3494

7 жыл бұрын

Matthew Collins Sure then when Austin and The Rock came Vince wouldn't have needed them then and told them all to go f themselves but them he NEEDED them.

@cretinousjester3475

6 жыл бұрын

Matthew Collins: Don't be so sure. Micheals, Waltman, and Levasque may have been the very ones to curb Nash and Hall's excesses if they had all jumped ship. It's a fair shake to say HHH and Stephanie wouldn't have happened. Would the Kliq have been the nucleus for the NWO? There's a thousand ways it could've went.

@londonavant3021

6 жыл бұрын

WCW would have gone out off business even quicker. The Kliq and Hogan's backstage politics and the ridiculous amount of money they were spending would have caused the company to either implode or Turner himself calling it quits when saw the expenditures.

@jamessiddy1231

6 жыл бұрын

I love jimmy too but he'd have booked bobby eaton and stan lane in the main event of mania taking on the new fabulous ones or something equally daft. He's worth listening to, but not someone to give complete control

3:59 WAIT WHO

@desmondthompson9680

3 жыл бұрын

Triple H

Lol 4:03

If Jim Cornette is honestly so naive he believes the curtain call exposed the business then it'll be extremely easy for his wife to convince him that the 4 hours she spends away from home every night is "driving lessons"

@jasonclark2605

3 жыл бұрын

That's not what he saying. The fact that they openly did it, while they could have went backstage and had their hug....it was a deliberate f*vk you.

3:59

I have to say this, The Elite in AEW (Kenny Omega and The Young Bucks) are the modern version of The Kliq in the sense that they are the inmates running the asylum. Obviously not the same star power or whatever, but just them running things and acting like they're dominant. Tony Khan is oblivious just like Vince was oblivious. Once the Kliq ceased, WWF went on to become awesome. I don't know what it will take for The Elite to stop their garbage, but they need their power stripped.

Vince's team: Jim Ross, Jim Cornette, Bruce Pritchard (some of) Vince's biggest stars: Steve Austin, Ernie Ladd, The Undertaker, JBL, Booker T Cornette: "THIS GUY JUST HATES SOUTHERNERS! WHAT BIAS! WE'RE NOT ALL HILLBILLIES!" Of all the things to hate on Vince for....

@Matt-cr4vv

Жыл бұрын

I mean JR and Bruce both have said many times that Vince had a bit of southern bias. But Vince isn’t an idiot who is going to run his business to a detriment and not make money for a bias. But JR being yanked from commentary time and time again was largely southern bias. Tony Schiavone never being considered back was southern bias. Bruce and JR have both pointed that out. But he isn’t going to sacrifice millions for a bias - he has clearly done what he doesn’t want time after time to do what he thinks is best for his business. Look at the guys he brought back and worked with again so many times because he thought it was the best choice for his business.

First time Bruce Pritchard has an opinion

Why the fuck didn't Scott Hall not wanna work with Goldust???

@spiritsplice

6 жыл бұрын

Normal people dont like gays.

@cliftonsmith4013

6 жыл бұрын

Spirit Splice he's not gay. Not trying to defend the gays, but a lot of them are pretty cool.

@spiritsplice

6 жыл бұрын

I am aware, but his gay act was too creepy to deal with. Some gays are cool, I agree, but not the flamers who wear it on their sleeve.

@FnRenner

6 жыл бұрын

The term you are looking for is androgynous. As in "Golddust is an androgynous wrestling character but Dustin isn't gay."

@FnRenner

6 жыл бұрын

Spirit Splice....normal people don't care

I started watching wrestling when I was about 8 years old (1987) and instantly loved it… there was never a point where I believed it was real. Just like I knew Luke Skywalker wasn’t real, Thundercats, He-Man and G.I.Joe weren’t real and Freddy Krueger wasn’t real. I still loved all of it. But how could anyone think Hulking up was real? How can you think a guy can’t stop himself from running into the ropes? Or you can get punched 10 times in the face but that does nothing… but a leg drop puts a guy away? It’s hard to believe so many people thought wrestling was real down south in the territory days🤔

I know this is years after this clip was recorded but I think some of what and who Vince put up with over the years makes more sense to me after hearing him do an interview with Pat McAfee. In that interview he said that he personally enjoys confrontation and going at each other so in a weird way that most every other human who has lived would never understand it’s possible that he genuinely may have enjoyed all the bullshit the Kliq pulled during those days. Not only is he almost legendary for all the times he’s found a way to interact with people you thought would never happen - even people who said everything under the Sun bad about him at times - but he says that he actually enjoys the battle of it. And in that context, as wild as it really is for a normal human to try to comprehend, it helps explain a lot of things that he would put up with that never made sense to deal with in the past without knowing that fact. And of course we have heard from Bruce and JR that Vince saw a part of himself in Shawn and admired that even if everybody else absolutely despised it.

The kliq was the worst thing that has happened to the wrestling business

🎾🤓

300th like!

Jim Cornette is such a man child lol I agree with him on the curtain call but it taking things way too seriously when you start wishing cancer on someone and all the other silliness he spouts. He is surprised that Triple H married Vinces daughter because of his involvement in the curtain call lol Theres more to life than 'not exposing the busniess'.

@edwardfarnsworth5915

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe you take Jim way too seriously.

I love you Jim but just get over this ,Vince exposed the business first,when I saw this I thought this was great, if I remember correctly the narrative leading up to PPV was good friends better enemies, no offensive but only in south did they ever believe wrestling was real ,I understood what I was watching and still loved it , big fan but you need to get over the fact that the business is exposed.

Vince and Pat were fuckin Shawn simple as that... He wasn't nicknamed the heart throb he was nicknamed the BOY TOY. Let that sink in a min.

I'd have to assume anyone other than a little kid believing it was real probably didn't Graduate High School!!!😂😂😂

There's a reason why wwe to this day is number 1

@tomr3422

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe sports entertainment but there is no wrestling promotions left.

From what I hear, Shawn reminded Vince of a young him and that's why he put up with Shawn, it's also why Shawn acted the way he did, he knew Vince wasn't gonna do shyt

Bruce is boring

Vince hates southerners? Yeah that’s why he made stone cold Steve Austin the most popular wrestler in WWE. There are plenty of southerners who were pushed to the main event. JBL was a cowboy. Some of the shit Cornette comes up with is just stupid.

@skankhunt8383

5 жыл бұрын

Ryan Wilson I wouldn’t put it passed him honestly.

@blake7871

5 жыл бұрын

Vince didn't "make" Steve Austin. Austin made himself. Austin pitched his character to Vince and they came up with Chilly McFreeze and Fang McFrost as possible names for his character. Austin came up with the name and got over. The only thing I give Vince credit for is not getting in the way and screwing it up.

@fishin4bass2002

5 жыл бұрын

Blake Martin I never said Vince Created stone cold I was saying he made him famous. It was Vince Who decided to push Steve to the main event. Vince booked Austin and gave him a platform. Also I don’t think Steve would be the superstar he ended up becoming without Vince McMahon being the heel boss that was Steve’s main rival. One of the main reasons why Steve was so popular and relatable because he was always sticking it to his boss. Something almost everyone not only dreams of but can also can personally relate to in some way. I mean everyone has had a boss that has treated them unfairly. ECW and WCW couldn’t make Steve a superstar, only Vince and WWE did. Yes Vince had some bad ideas for the character but ultimately Vince and Steve worked together to create the legend we know of today. If each guy was left to their own devices then they would both more than likely have failed. Together they were able to overcome their personal flaws and each offer something the other couldn’t. Vince had the company, the platform and the audience, as well as a mind for running a business and Steve was the worker who had good in ring ability, a great character and the mind to make that character successful.

@nick56677

4 жыл бұрын

Vince is southern himself. He was born and lived most of his childhood in North Carolina. He is what he hates.

Doesn't this sound like what is happening in AEW with The Young Bucks?

I love Cornette, but he dogs McMahon too damn much and doesn't think about the big picture. No other promoter would put up with the amount of bullshit that Vince does. Ok. Likely true. How many of them competed after Vince took pro wrestling mainstream? How many of them made money anywhere in the realm of what Vince made? WWF blew up the territories and ate up the other rinky dink wrestling promotions who weren't looking to the future. Furthermore, most of those old promoters literally treated their promotions and the wrestling territories like a pyramid scheme circus. Vince treated it like an expanding business. Obviously Cornette is jealous of Vince's ridiculous success. But venting in this way just makes him look like an ignorant, bitter tool lol

@maxxdahl6062

5 жыл бұрын

Vince deserves any "dogging" he gets.

@michealgillette2112

5 жыл бұрын

Lmao ok deadass