I'm gettin that Bruce is so defensive about it, that the Red Rooster was probably his idea.

@andrewisjesus

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely

@horrorfan4-life689

4 жыл бұрын

Even as a kid I seen that gimmick as ridiculous.

@frankbonini9128

3 жыл бұрын

He's Defensive About How Dare Would ANYONE Critique the God Almighty that is Vincent Kennedy McMahon!

@user-qx5nk6qg2b

2 жыл бұрын

He's very insecure about it.

@BigBoss-zi5ss

2 жыл бұрын

He just has to make it seem like that so if Vince hears it he can hear Bruce still kissing ass

The Artful Dodger artfully dodges the fact that the Red Rooster was a shit gimmick. Nobody could have gotten that gimmick over.

@avalond1193

4 ай бұрын

Except rooster was popular back then

Good god, Prichard will defend anything Vince does.

@kennyneally3662

4 жыл бұрын

makes you wonder if he still works for him

@deontyler960

4 жыл бұрын

@@kennyneally3662 If fact yes he STILL do. Bruce from what a lot has said that he has worked with Vince Mcmahon off and on through the late 80's - 2000's cause Vince has a vision of how he want wrestlers and his shows to be and Bruce try to create it, defends and goes along with whatever Vince ideas are regardless of how bad they maybe. Since 2019 after WWE got rid of Eric Bischoff then later Bruce took his place to be in charge of the creative team on Smackdown and now since WWE / Vince Mcmahon fired Paul Heyman due to low ratings a few days ago as part of creative director team on Raw and to remain a ring personality / advocate of Brock Lesnar.... Now Bruce will be running creative team of storylines of both Raw and Smackdown shows.

@Kevin-cy4qn

4 жыл бұрын

YESSSS!!

@milanphillips7492

Жыл бұрын

Well the man has kept him with a pay check for years so I can see why

Cornette calls it like he sees it, Prichard calls it like Vince sees it!

Such a load, no one could have gotten over with it. Pritchard is a tool. Chilly McFreeze instead of stone cold, bastion booger etc. if you are going to take credit for your successes then take responsibility for your failures.

@pikkon899

7 жыл бұрын

Oh really? So a dead zombie coming in as a professional wrestler in the form of the Undertaker is ok but a guy who is cocky and was given the name Red Rooster because of it is not? Case in point, Terry Taylor sucked. Mark Callaway has talent and he's still there to this day because of it. Terry Taylor could and should have used it as a nickname instead of acting like an actual rooster. Latin American fighters are sometimes called "gallos" because they fight aggressively like fighting roosters but they don't act like roosters.

@JumpinJackFlash1989

7 жыл бұрын

*Case in point

@georgethemaninmalsteele515

7 жыл бұрын

Pikkon89 ....the undertaker was pushed because he was a talented WWE CREATION....Terry Taylor was a talented wrestler who wasn't pushed because WWE didn't take an unknown Terry Taylor like they took an unknown Mark Calloway, as a wrestling fan you should know that Vince McMahon shits on anything he didn't create, Vince McMahon couldn't control Terry either, Terry Taylor would have gotten over just fine as himself, he drew sold out 70k crowds at the Tokyo dome and in every major territory long before he came to the WWE

@brianm2881

6 жыл бұрын

That's not true about Vince shitting on what he did not create. Take Mick Foley for example - After Vince pitched Mick the awful 'Mason the Mutilator' gimmick, Foley quickly counter-pitched with Mankind and Vince went with it. Then, Vince found out about Dude Love, Foley's teenage wrestling persona. Vince loved it and went with it. Then, he even let him be Cactus Jack. The same is true for a lot of successful WWE guys - they're initially given given something bland or crappy, but then they either tweak that or do something else entirely, and Vince goes with it, if it's getting over. Terry Taylor didn't do that. He just accepted the gimmick, never spoke up about his dissatisfaction with it, didn't try to show that 'Terrific' Terry Taylor would be better for business, and for that people remember him as a crowing jackass. I suppose the problem was that just because some wrestler had a good career in the territories, they expected the world to be handed to them on a silver platter when they came to WWE.

@bluhmer1990

5 жыл бұрын

Brian In Fingal - You are misinformed. Foley had had backers in WWE like Jim Ross, who kept pestering Vince over and over to sing Foley and to give him a shot. In fact, Foley has said that Vince let Foley do his Gimmick because he thought Foley would flop and wanted Jim Ross to feel like shit when the guy he backed failed. Unfortunately for Vince, Foley didn't flop at all. But that's it, Vince wanting to be a complete asshole to Jim Ross is why Foley got a chance. Check out Foley's Hell in a Cell stand up if you don't believe me.

they made terry look dumb as the red rooster i can't believe he agreed to do it

@haljordan777

11 ай бұрын

To paraphrase Obi-Wan Kenobi, Terry did that to himself. He chose to act like the San Diego Chicken.

I have to agree with Cornette on this one. This isn't like Undertaker or Doink The Clown, which were both done by two guys who could pull it off. Terry Taylor could not be the Red Rooster, and hell nobody could. Of course, then again these were the same creative guys who thought Mantaur and Beaver Clevage were good ideas.

@unr3alGaming

5 жыл бұрын

I believe Mantaur and Beaver Cleavage we're concocted by Vince McMahon and Vince Russo respectively. I don't think Bruce Prichard had a hand in creating either of those characters. Jim Cornette certainly didn't because he said himself that he was handed the role of manager for Mantaur very quickly without being given any warning, and he said on his own podcast that he thought the Beaver Cleavage giving was another stupid and Russo gimmick and he was happier with Chaz Warrington being part of the head bangers as Mosh.

@Redhotshawntexas

2 жыл бұрын

@Cairo Lee he’s too busy being Daffy Duck. Sufferin’ succotash, son.

@joemama7163

2 жыл бұрын

Neither as good as The Yeti, lol.

@darthroden

2 жыл бұрын

@@joemama7163 You mean the "Ye-taay" LOL!

You cannot defend a guy walking around thinking he is a Rooster.............. A ROOSTER 🤣

Surprised that Bruce didn’t go with his “I wasn’t there at the time” defense. 😏

why wasnt bruce the third stooge with brisco and patterson in 1999

The Total Disrespect of Dodger to Eat/Chew & Breathe/Wheeze Heavily on the Phone as He's Being Interviewed by Jim & Brian

Bruce toeing the Company Line as always... Bruce's nose doesn't half smell like Vinces Ringpiece

An evil clown and a red rooster are polar opposites. I don’t think the best wrestler ever could have pulled off the red rooster gimmick.

That killed Terry's career. Bruce is so full of it.

@avalond1193

2 жыл бұрын

To be honest terry was not a big deal anywhere else can't blame it on the gimmick after all Kevin Nash was wizard oz and Steve Austin was a Hollywood blonde..and they both had talent and got over.. terry didn't have charisma

@haljordan777

11 ай бұрын

Terry killed it.

Yes, a cocky guy says " ar-arar-arar...!" Rogers, Bockwinkeo an Flair all did that. Totally legit!

Can't be justified!

Prichard's podcast is entertaining but I take everything he says with a grain of salt.

Bruce Prichard is a WWE shill. Bruce would have probably told Cody to stay in WWE and make the gimmick work.

@ec5018

Ай бұрын

Funny since Cody hugged him at wrestlemania this year I n camera

The Rooster was one of the worst gimmicks of all time

6:45 This is one of my favorite stories

My grandma used to call Bob Backlund "a banty red rooster" because he had bright red hair and he was nimble in the ring.

Bruce Prichard; the human nap. This guy's pregnant pauses give me a headache.

so in other words, Vince saw terry as a reflection of himself.

@IsaacBeImont

3 жыл бұрын

I thought the same thing. People in glass house-shows shouldn't throw shitty gimmicks at their wrestlers.

@haljordan777

11 ай бұрын

Imagine an alternate universe where Terry Taylor had the Red Rooster name and the red spiky hair, but instead of flapping his arms and clucking like a chicken he strutted like the Mr. McMahon character.

Prichard is the biggest McMahon stooge ever

It was probably Bruce that did that.

I like how at the end Bruce says Terry wanted to be Ric Flair and that you have to get over as an original you can't copy someone else. Pretty sure Flair himself wasn't original he copied Buddy Rogers uh Hulk Hogan copied Superstar Billy Graham.

@toma.4808

6 жыл бұрын

John Easton yep , hogan AND jesse ventura admit to "borrowing" billy grahams gimmick and your also right: flair wasnt the original nature boy.

@bluhmer1990

5 жыл бұрын

And CM Punk was just a revamped Stone Cold minus the alcohol.

@hooksncrosses3419

5 жыл бұрын

And Dolph Ziggler is another Mr Perfect in look and ringwork. Plus, don't forget all the Road Warriors rip offs. Including Powers of Pain, Ascension and Authors of Pain.

@maxxdahl6062

5 жыл бұрын

The problem was Buddy Rodgers was no longer an active wrestler when Flair became a nature boy or at least a full time one. Flair was still working regularly when Terry was out there working. Why see a copy of someone who's still working regularly when you can see the guy he's ripping off?

@bluhmer1990

5 жыл бұрын

maxx dahl - That is actually a very good point. However, that's not the point Prichard made. It's sad that you made such a better point than the guy who is trying to defend Vince's bullshit.

Doink was over.

I can't stand it when people breath into a phone or a mic.

I love the Cornette laugh.

I want to know who told him to dye the top of hair red and pointed straight up and who was the idiot that thought it was a good idea for him to cluck.

His run in the York foundation was interesting. It sort of reminded me of VK Wallstreet.

funny bruce called ric an original when the first well known nature boy was buddy rogers

So the gimmick was one of two things: (A): Vince's attempt at getting even with a guy who was notorious for being a cocky difficult asshole behind the scenes. (B): The result of a slow day and a long meeting in creative that people wanted too end so they just threw something together.

@brianm2881

6 жыл бұрын

Vince was like, "Well, I'm going to give this guy a suck-ass gimmick in order to potentially harm the drawing power of any card he's on. As know, being a millionaire, I like to find ways to make less money. Tell Hulk he's now a half-man, half-rabbit creature named 'Hoppy Hogan"

@bigroaststyrone8135

5 жыл бұрын

The Red Rooster was originally a nickname I believe, bringing to light Taylor’s cocky attitude, however for one reason or another, maybe Terry couldn’t read between the lines, he took it literally and acted like an actual cock (pun intended)

Evil Doink was the best

Sounds to me like TT was supposed to just be a cocky, arrogant guy, but instead took the rooster thing a little too literally and ended up not doing well.

@johnkolko5199

2 жыл бұрын

I think that is how Bruce is spinning it, this was to rib / bury Taylor

Taylor actually believed that the Mr. Perfect gimmick was for him. Till they handed him the red jacket... 😆

Everything he used as a knock against Taylor was seen as ideal traits for just about everyone else. But those guys became stars because they had gimmicks that people didn’t point and laugh at.

@patrickstewart3446

9 ай бұрын

As for his “it was Terry’s idea” I call bullshit. If it was “Terry going against the gimmick” Vince would’ve put a stop to it after the first time. Everything from the hair to the crowing was all Vince, probably just for his own juvenile amusement.

An evil clown is cool, a human rooster is lame they should have made Terry Taylor a secret agent or anything else

This was Vince's bad idea no one else's.Blame Vince.

So a guy whose full of confidence and cocky becomes a FUCKING ROOSTER!!! bullshit

What if Red Rooster / Terry Taylor had returned as the Gobbledygooker

Terry Taylor was cocky. True. But they didn't put him on TV and have announcers go "man, he's so cocky", they literally named him The Red Rooster. In an era where they had bulldogs, killer bees, young stallions, "the birdman", and the rest of the zoo represented in human form. He was called The Red Rooster and they had him actually crow LIKE A FUCKING REAL LIFE ROOSTER. There is nowhere for that gimmick to go, I don't care what the thought process behind it was. Same reason Man Mountain Rock, Duke "the Dumpster" Droese, and TL Hopper weren't going to get over. Not every gimmick is going to work. Period.

@georgethemaninmalsteele515

7 жыл бұрын

Daniel Fraley ....totally agree!!! but you know how much Vince loves to shit on anything/anyone he didn't create, but droese was over for a little while during his run with Lawler

Red Rooster could only work a few years later after Alice n Chain had their hit.

I wonder if Bruce Pritchard knew who Buddy Rogers (the original Nature Boy) was? Ric Flair idolized that man growing up and eventually took on the same nickname and gimmick as him. Terry Taylor wasn't the only one trying to imitate someone's gimmick.

i can't say i blame terry for not taking the red rooster seriously it was a stupid gimmick

What's so funny is Vince himself has admitted The Red Rooster was a failure!! But Bruce is so in love with Vince he's still continues to try and champion this stupid character.

Alot of people liked the doink character as a heel..it died soon as they turned him face. They buried Terry. Heenan literally said "I csn take a guy of average size.and ability" they weren't trying to put terry over very hard.

@zenoftupac9096

2 жыл бұрын

Doink died when Borne was fired. The other Doinks were akin to Razor versus Fake Razor. They sucked.

@johnkolko5199

2 жыл бұрын

Then his name guy was the ultimate jobber Steve Lombardi who they made the Brooklyn Brawler

How does one purchase a box of gimmicks?

I mean, any "nature boy" gimmick

The red rooster is better then what they are doing now! That boy could wrestle !

The name itself isn't so bad. Third Basemen Doug Rader was known as The Red Rooster for years, just because he had red hair. Of course he didn't actually cluck or have spiked hair. If it were done more subtly, the gimmick could work.

Doink was the reason I stopped watching wwf.

@ahmeddemha6112

7 жыл бұрын

TheMr32hunter You've had far worse gimmicks in WWF that preceded and followed Doink and that was the deal breaker?

@johnstahlman9767

6 жыл бұрын

Face Doink was so bad, but Matt Borne as heel doink was awesome.

@EGarrett01

6 жыл бұрын

The Doink gimmick was overrated. He got to do some interesting stuff, but ultimately it was too over the top be beyond the midcard. Bruce actually wanted Doink to main event Wrestlemania, which shows you what an idiot Bruce is in reality.

@phrasesinner

5 жыл бұрын

For me it was the Gobbledygooker!!! The whole Guerraro family must have been so proud of Hector!

@alberthenley2062

5 жыл бұрын

Right? That Doink the clown angle sucked completely.

Doink the Clown was originally a great gimmick - evil clowns generally work. The Red Rooster was a absolutely stupid gimmick and he could have 'embraced' it all to hell and it still wouldn't get over. Do anyone recall roosters being a part of mainstream movies, books or the like...? It was a career killer. And oh yeah, the Nature Boy gimmick that Ric Flair did was 'original'. Bruce loses credibility in this one....

Giving him shit cause he didn’t get a rooster gimmick over lol

Well... Has to be a side effect from his missuse of Self Tanning Products, I guess

Watching old UWF from the 80's videos Terry was super over

Red Rooster, Isaac Yankum DDS, The Common Man, The “Natural”, Goldust, etc...all these bullshit gimmicks given to wrestlers who were stars in other organizations. I’d have been REALLY hesitant to come to WWF given that. I could only imagine what they’d do to Jay Lethal

@jefftaylor1186

2 жыл бұрын

Remember when they tried to fuck with Dusty Rhodes by putting him in polka dots? Yeah he was still over as fuck. His son was also over as fuck when he was Goldust. You have to have the mentality of “I don’t care what they try to do to me. I’m gonna go out there and still make money”

I agree with Cornette on this one. Red Rooster was the silliest gimmick there ever was. Vince shit his cheerios on this one. Doink the clown was great! Matt Bourne killed it. But Terry Taylor strutting around crowing was just STUPID

Anyone know where the rest of this podcast went? Really loved it

I've always been of the opinion that the gimmick could've worked if they'd had Heenan give Taylor the gimmick, Taylor starts out fine but after a short amount of time starts getting more and more pissed about being laughed at until he finally turned on Heenan, beat Heenan in the blowoff match still using the gimmick, and only after beating Heenan somehow symbollicly stuff something in his mouth or something then went on as himself.

Bruce is just Vince’s stooge… and will defend anything Vince created even the gobbling Gooker….

I remember that when he was on WCW he was a solid mid-carded but after he went to WWF his career die

It's a travesty that a lot of (WWF) wrestling fans' first introduction to Terry Taylor was with that idiotic gimmick. When Taylor made his debut in the WWF, I was expecting to see that vicious heel persona that he had in the UWF/NWA and World Class. Instead he came off as a buffoon with that strutting and squawking, acting like a imbecile who needed Heenan to micromanage everything he did in the ring. All that great work that Taylor did in the years leading up this got wiped out in an instant. Even I didn't know what this "Red Rooster" thing was supposed to be about until it was explained a few years ago. How does one make that gimmick work with a name like that and with no explanation?! "Red Roostered" should be the wrestling equivalent of "jumped the shark."

Matt Bourne The Original Doink was WAY OVER LOL!........2nd doink sucked.

red rooster ppl remember who remembers terry taylor the wrestler ?

I was around 15 when Taylor became Red Rooster. I first time I saw it, I honestly thought they came up with him that he would quit. Like maybe he contract was up or something. It might be even worse that it was meant as real/serious. I was embarrassed for him and I don't think there's ANY way he could have made that stupid gimmick work.

That gimmick was so bad but Vince has a career of doing that to people

Gonna give this one to Corny. That was as convoluted an explanation (or rationalization) for a character choice as I’ve ever heard and if you really thought Terry just needed to go out there and be himself, why would you need to call him a damn Red Rooster Dumb dumb dumb

This is why you can't take anything Pritchard seriously. He's been known as Vince stooge and proves it all the time.

So, would you say that Terry Taylor was a pheasant plucker?

Just for an update on the score. Bruce Prichard was made head of creative for both Raw and Smackdown! So all that corporate ass kissing and defending of Vince and Co's dumbassery finally paid off!

I get Bruce’s argument, but a rooster outside of a flock of chickens is not terribly impressive. In what wrestling scenario does a rooster appear to have the right to strut around?

RED ROOSTER ROCKS!!!!!!😅😅😅😅😅😅

Matt "evil Doink" Borne was awesome, the gimmick was ahead of its time, turning Doink face was the nail in the coffin

Since when did Hawk wear boots with laces.

It was stupid I thought id of been pissed if it was me so wonder how Bruce would've handled being called the red rooster

"Born again butt buddy." LOL

To Taylor's credit, it didn't kill his career as he had a good wcw run. Another story that shows Vince was never a genius

Terry Taylor was given the red rooster gimmick because he acted like a rooster Ok Then why didn't you give Hulk Hogan the gimmick of a double crosser.

@johnkolko5199

2 жыл бұрын

Or Triple H, the backstabber / shoveller

Taylor made money and is still working in the business today. Fair play to him. Gotta pay them bills

To cluck or not to cluck

If you had that attitude in Vinces company he would take you to earth real fast

Prichard will defend anything Vince does because he’s a Vinny Mac stooge.

They shouldve made Terry like a crazied Ric Flair want to be have him act like flair dress like flair win figure 4 and do Ric Flair promos

@clivet3252

Ай бұрын

I think that was the intention - to be a Flair parody. When he started as a heel there was no cock a doodle do and rooster comb.

nah it probably could’ve worked. while it was probably a rib, it had potential if terry didn’t think he had to act like an actual rooster for it to get over

What a mark🙄

Fun fact: according to Flair, the rooster came up with that angle for the nwo to mock Arn Anderson and the rooster was one of Arn's best buddies at the time.

Jim Cornette calls it the way he sees it, and it's true, this ridiculous chicken gimmick killed Terry Taylor's career. Bruce Prichard starts out, saying okay okay as he removes his lips from Vince's gluteus maximus!!! Where he then proceeds to mount a feeble attempt to create a supporting case for this ridiculous chicken gimmick. All because it was Vince's idea. The reasons he gave made no since because the fans you nothing about Taylor's personality behind the scenes. For that matter, most of these guys were cocky and arrogant. Bruce continues to prove he was nothing more than a tool for Vince.

WWE has always had a two-faced logic. When something turns out great(Hulk Hogan, Stone Cold) it's "Vince McMahon is a promoting genius!" When something flops (Ultimate Warrior, Red Rooster, etc) they blame the talent for not getting it over. As if they had no part in creating the character, gimmick, storyline, or producing the promos...

Had Taylor been brought out as a cocky heel or a cocky face that turned up all the elements to show his cocky nature, and THEN had his foe call him a rooster or had the announcers do it months after his debut, THEN he could have not only gotten over with it, he could have taken it to a highly competitive level. Instead he was called the red rooster from the very beginning of his run, and no context was given. He was killed before he could have a chance. It was bad creative on the part of WWF/E.

So, Brother Love here talking about how good gimmicks are an extension of the actual person's personality. Which, honestly, is true. Yet, beautifully ironic since the Brother Love was a lying ass kisser.

Bruce's family will have to cheapest funeral when he passes. An enamma and a matchbox isn't expensive. Bruce would push anything if but buddy Vince asked him to. Spwaking of arrigant Bruce, LOL

@glassheart97

Жыл бұрын

Haha!

I feel bad for anyone that thinks Terry Taylor was a good professional wrestler.

He just didn't have to have that hair style. Just the name would've been fine

Whoever is on the phone is annoying

As crazy as it sounds the Red Rooster gimmick could've worked. Gimmick's like Akeem "The African Dream" (One Man Gang) The Model (Rick Martel) The Genius (Lanny Pofo) The Demolition (Road Warrior RIP OFFS!) just to name a few. Dumb at the beginning, but ended up being good characters in the long run.

@baronvg

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I agree! Everybody acting like it’s not the performer’s fault?!?! Edge & Christian were part of a VAMPIRE stable!!! But their in ring work got them over. Goldust was bizarre when he first came out and guess what, he’s STILL doing it lol. And what exactly is the Red Rooster?? Other than the clucking and the cockscomb, Terry Taylor is just a guy in red trunks who can wrestle but he didn’t try. If The Rock can get over just being an arrogant ass and everybody loves it, it console worked had he just been himself, with a sprinkle of chicken lol

@outis439-A

2 жыл бұрын

@@baronvg the vampires were cool. They called it alternative- so they were just goths. Pretty cool.

@johnkolko5199

2 жыл бұрын

@@outis439-A Akeem was a snipe at Dusty Rhodes, a white guy acting black.

As the years have gone by the rooster has proven himself to be a stooge. A I see it he got what he deserved. I think he was always a stooge.

I get where BP is coming from, but I never realised that TT was (allegedly) given the Red Rooster gimmick because of his "cocky" behaviour. And the reason is that in my opinion he wasn't presented as being arrogant or a ladies man at all. He would cut promos and walk out to the ring with this ridiculous outfit and theme music that would make any rational person think he is a character designed to be popular with the younger generation of fans, Ala the Bushwackers.

Looking back i thought it was shitty for him to get stuck with that gimmick.that said to a nicer guy it couldn't happen.

That idea was bullshit