Jesus and the Cynics
The Cynics were an ancient Greek philosophical school that rejected property and all social conventions to proclaim the pursuit of virtue in accordance with a simple and idealistic way of life. Popularized by Diogenes (c. 412-323 BC), by the first century AD the practice had spread, and cynic philosophers were a common sight in cities across the Greco-Roman world. Several scholars of the historical Jesus have noted similarities between Jesus’ philosophy and movement and that of contemporary cynics. John Hamer of Toronto Centre Place will look at the case they make as he compares ancient cynicism with the pre-Christian Jesus movement.
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This Chanel is gold. Thanks a lot for your teachings.
"All models are wrong, but some are useful."
@thomzwiefler6305
2 жыл бұрын
Ostentation!
@Grey-Elder
4 ай бұрын
Do you want to change that statement?
To paraphrase the Logical Song - My life seemed so wonderful, beautiful, magical, when I was a young child But then I was sent away to learn how to be obedient, sensible, Logical, responsible, practical. I joined a world where I am dependable, intellectual, clinical, cynical
André, from Ceará (Interior of Brazil): Guy I am sorry for so few comments you've got. Your material is amazing. I've been watched your lectures one after the other every free night I have for a month. They are the best in details.
35:00 the context for second temple Judaism was super helpful. 👌
John, I love you brother. Thank you (and crew) for all of these. Peace be unto you and your houses.
Great lecture
Thanks so much!
Imagine starting and spreading a religion in 30 AD, and in 2022 i cant even start a girlfriend....
very excited about this will have to set some time aside to watch
57:14 Same legend as the jewish sage that went to india and was buried facing jerusalem honour still to this day by the indian peolle around there
Always enjoy. Thank you. Appreciate all your time and effort that goes into these presentations.
When ever Mary was asked for the date of her son's Jesus birth. what would she reply?
I have no problem believing in a historical Jesus. It’s a huge leap with no evidence to suggest he was god who came down to Earth to sacrifice himself to himself in order to create a loophole that he created in the first place
@Tony-gg3nd
Жыл бұрын
@@maryjo5043 do you not see the logic behind that passive aggressive statement?
@Centre Place -- could you do a video explaining Matthew 25 please? It seems to be contradictory.
This is a very interesting paralel. There are many overlapping. Good presentation as always. I guess the common areas are not deliberate. Could be by accident or due to the fact that it was such current of though in the Helenistic area. The influence on Judaism was significant.
@gullybull5568
Жыл бұрын
Judaism ? Hahaha. A laughable mistake. ZEALOTS have ZEAL for the LORD . Not GOD because YAWHISTS and JEHOVISTS are MOON WORSHIPPERS to SIN the MOUNT SAI.NAI. - MOUNT HOREB is MOUNTAIN OF HEAT ? Not sainai. SIN. egypt. WE.ARE.NOT.WORSHIPPING.SIN. ARE NOT.SIN.NERS. ARE NOT .anti.sun.
Well, well, well, that ol' Diogenes had some unique behaviors.
About Diogenes getting a new barrel to live in from the Athenians after somebody destroyed it: that sounds more like protection of property rights to me, than giving of alms! - I‘m pretty sure they were sending him a message rather than receiving one…
@andrewsuryali8540
Жыл бұрын
Our understanding of property is different from theirs, but that isn't even relevant in this case. For context, Diogenes was living in a BROKEN tub to begin with. Basically he picked up trash dumped outside the city and rolled it into the market. The tub vandalism incident happened when he was older. He could have simply repeated the process but the Athenians respected him too much to let the old man roll his own tub back, so they simply got another broken tub and put it in his usual place.
Diogenes lit lamp was his searching for his mind
@yiannimil1
Жыл бұрын
ppossibly...! maybe he was also trying to reach yours. Apparently he failed at that.
This channel deletes fair comments.
It's not worthy of me ? Mathew 10: 34 - 37(anonymous writer) absurd invention. Jesus would never say some like that.
Cynicism - the philosphy of insanity.
@thomzwiefler6305
2 жыл бұрын
More ostentation!
@marktwain5232
2 жыл бұрын
And more cowbell!