I’ve been following these lectures for a while now and am impressed at the high quality of the teachings. There’s a lot of work that must have gone into preparing these lectures. Thank you so much, I learned so much in these already.

@CTechAstronomy

3 ай бұрын

We all are, that’s why we watch them.

@cpamacjd

3 ай бұрын

@@CTechAstronomynot all

@lborge1411

Ай бұрын

Amen!

Mathew 5:17: “Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfill them"

Thank you so much. You are doing a very unique & important service by pointing out that there were several different early Christian traditions, and that the Catholic/Orthodox versions of history are AT BEST a "gloss" that papers over actual historical truth.

Very Instructive, Bravo !

The disciples are consistently portrayed in the Gospels we have as being uncomprehending and totally misguided, including Peter. Remember the ‘get behind me Satan’ directed at Peter who he had just allegedly founded his ‘church’ upon. And as for the brother of Jesus why should he have any especial authority considering that Jesus had repudiated his family and warned us that his followers would find their close friends and family to be their worst enemies. Listen to Jesus not Paul, not Peter, not James the ‘Just’ and whoever else attempts to assume unearned influence. Where two or three are gathered in my name there am I in the midst. That is what he meant by his church. Proximity to Jesus in the flesh confers no authority whatsoever. That is the message of the Gospel.

One would have to say the Ebionites came first. Many scholars point them to being the original followers of James the brother of Jesus and Eisenman clearly shows it. The Jerusalem Church under James BEFORE Paul ever came along had a name, the followers just didn’t die off or convert to Paul’s church and give up their Jewish ways, they are the Ebionites. Both sects of Jesus and John the Baptist survived into our modern times over in the Middle East and have not died out

@donatist59

Жыл бұрын

Eisenman is a crackpot. His writings are actually hilarious if you know anything about early Christianity. My favorite Eisenmanism is his insistence that any use of the Greek verb "ekballo" (to throw something) is actually a coded expression of Ba'al worship. He's not quite in Baigent/Leigh territory but he's close. And... show me where the Ebionites are still alive! I'd love to meet one. Unless you're arguing that Muslims are Ebionites, of course.

Love these lectures, great job! Between John Hamer here, and James Tabor's channel, it's amazing to have this high quality education/discussion on theological topics. Thanks!

@angelawossname

Жыл бұрын

Have you watched Dr Andrew Henry on "Religion for Breakfast" or Dr Filip Holm on "Let's Talk Religion" or Dr Justin Sledge on "ESOTERICA" ? They are all really good as well. Dr Sledge is great if you want to learn about this stuff in more depth. His channel is probably my favourite.

@donatist59

Жыл бұрын

Sadly we live in a "conspiracy theory" age where every "dominant narrative" has to be prejudged as false on the simple ground that it is "dominant". A handful of rogue scholars have made a ton of money advancing esoteric theories that will be pre-received by an audience committed to the view that the consensus "must" be wrong. James Tabor and Robert Eisenman are two of the best known but there are dozens of others, and their "groundbreaking" theories usually conflict with one another. They are not quite in Baigent/Leigh territory but they are awfully close. Don't buy into iconoclastic prejudice just because it sounds "new" and "edgy".

thank-you, so well done, so glad to have found you.

Excelent presentation. Well documented and coherent. Well done John.

Terrific presentation. Thoroughly interesting with tantalizing clues betraying the diversity of early Christianity.

Good morning everyone blessings 🙌 🙏 ✨️ Happy Holidays everyone

@BeeskieBadAzz

Жыл бұрын

This is not the place for paganism

Brilliant. Thank you. I learn a lot by listening to you.

The Abba Father has a tendency to pick a nobody to become a somebody in front of everybody without asking anybody

@ryandavis394

Жыл бұрын

? Divines we are Chosen in the Spirtual Realm

@willempasterkamp862

Жыл бұрын

@@ryandavis394 Sponsiani, called ones. Paul was 'a called'

Thank you so much for sharing. God bless always!🙂

Greetings ✨From Florida 🐬 Thank You 🙏

Beautiful presentation, its a real work of art how you managed to compare the pre-synoptic texts. The spirit of Yacov the pious watches over you and smiles that he was not forgotten.

Very interesting.

Brother Professor John Hamer, this is one of your " Brighamite" cousins. I would like you to I enjoy very much your lecture series, and, enjoy very much you're insights, knowledge, expansive view of the teachings. This may not be the appropriate lecture to inquire re this I am wondering if you can give a lecture on the differing views of temple worship and ritual in the Mormon restorationist movement. I take the middle ground between the Jacobite stress and the Pauline emphasis. As you were covering the Jacobite emphasis on the Christian message, which I understood be more the Ebionites, Gnostics mysteries ( which I see as the higher knowledge in the Temples) In the Christian polygamist movement there is a lecturer, I enjoy listening to Peter Rambo , really , Rambo! , but he draws a lot on the Leveriate laws and knows the hebraic law very well so based on your lecture, I think he is more from the Jacobite traditions if I am inferring correctly, but certainly his christian precepts go back before the Maccabean dynasty and the rabbinical law. Although, his grouping of polygamist Christianity is not rooted in fundamentals Mormonism nor traces it's lineage to fundamentalist Latter Day Saint movements. ( Look him up on utube, I would be interested in you're take. Again, Peter Rambo) I am one Brighamite that would have no issue with a reunification of the Reorganized Church, I have no issue with women apostles, it's a tradition that goes back to Emma Hales rival Eliza R Snow. They both were wife's of the prophet Joseph. Emma will have to come clean one day and admit it ! I heard from a Carl Anderson that worked with your President Wallace " Walley" Smith that your President Smith " was one of the most Christ like men he had ever know" , President Carl Anderson " Kirkland, Ohio Stake President. I would have no issue with gay/ lesbian circumstances either , noting your invitation at the Center Place. Also, in the Mormon restorationist movement leaning more to the right. I have no problem with polygamist families returning to our SLC church nor with Community of Christ returning or any of the branches as long as they abstain from bloodshed which I really believe is a self serving misinterpretation by sociopaths of brother Brigham remarks. ( Brother Brigham was very kind and thoughtful to my ancestors whom shifted their fealty from the prophet Joseph upon his martyrdom and was loyal to brother Brigham. I really enjoy your lecture styles , your presentation and knowledge base. You're lectures are very appreciated. ( I am a practicing attorney but also I was an associate professor at a small college in silicon valley for many years. So I appreciate the effort you make to deliver your knowledge to students in a way that us students can comprehend and build upon our own knowledge base) Finally, I wanted to say, I was fascinated re JJ Strang similar experience with his scriptures to the prophet Joseph. And even more fascinated when you indicated to there appeared to be a cadence and organization re the language. I am sure you studied the Hebraic Chaism in the book of Mormon, and the writing style analysis done where the forensic experts indicated that the differing alleged authors in the book of Mormon in fact demonstrates thru computer analysis different writing styles. These non Mormon forensic writing style experts indicated there are a handful of authors which can write in different styles, Shakespeare, Elizabeth Barrett browning a few others.But they said, the book of Mormon has many different writing styles beyond what even these well known authors can mimic over a much longer sustainable period of prose. For example, Jacob has a different writing style than Joseph Smith or Isaiah whom he liberally quotes. This is from a non Mormon group of experts utilizing computer analysis. Anyway enjoy your lecture series. Your cousin the Brighamite!

Christian definition feeling remorse graditude unconditional love and the burning desire to help others

All the gospels are lost on me. But, I do like the Infancy Gospel of Thomas! How pissed off young Jesus kills two little kids and blinds the parents!

Super work, God bless you

Interesting how the fragments of "the Gospel of the Hebrews" on "reigning through seeking Rest" aligns with Romans 5:17; where Jesus (Grace & Truth [Wisdom]) is the One Who gives REST, so that seeking Truth (Wisdom), we will Find Him who IS both Truth (Wisdom) & Grace, whereby we Rest from our works of the law, finding Life which reigns "above the law" (Grace) & thereby (walking Grace out) Reign in earthly Life by heavenly / kingdom LIFE.

Great Channel Great Video. Just what I have been looking for.⭐⭐⭐⭐⭐

Fascinating talk. I hope the parallels between Ebionite Christianity and Islam could be explored more. Glad to hear the parallels between these gospels and other early Christian writings.

@ks-qu4kj

10 ай бұрын

we Muslims would certainly consider the Ebionites to be closest to the true teachings of Jesus. Like Muslims, they believed Jesus to be a man, the Messiah , send by God to the Jews to correct them from straying away from Judaic Law. However unlike Muslims, the Ebionites did not believe in the miraculous virgin birth of Jesus , without any father. If there were any accurate records of Jesus' teachings that existed today, Muslims would for sure agree with those scriptures. Unfortunately the New Testament scriptures today have been altered so much to fit Pauline Christianity ( ie a Trinity man- God) that they do not reflect the records of what the historical Jesus preached. I hope one day someone will discover the Gospel of Jesus!

The commission was the teachings. Matthew was the collective effort - it's very thorough and written somewhat like a textbook., For instance, the 'temptations' are not about common temptations, it is about uprightly handling the Covenant words of God and not tempting God or pitting one teaching against another - making total sense to use this focus throughout,

Centre Place, please open a location in the Greater Portland area of Maine. 🥺

@1:59 CORRECTION: It is traditionally believed that John was the youngest of the apostles and survived all of them. He is said to have lived to old age, dying of natural causes at Ephesus sometime after AD 98, during the reign of Trajan, thus becoming the only apostle who did not die as a martyr.

Another fantastic talk. Thank you so much for all the historical context and all the work you do. There is so much that people don't know about how all this came about. Much appreciated. Can't wait for the next one.

Fantastic

Excellent lecture. Anyway, I have different opinion regarding The Nazarenes and The Ebionites. The Nazarenes come first in Jerusalem, and the Ebionites come up only after 70 M.

thanks John, I've been loving your lectures! I even found a bible today, to read some of the books you've talked about. A New International Version, that belonged to my Grandmother, which she used in her final years once she gave up on being a Catholic and got into some "modern" church here in New Zealand. That sounds like the sensible version to read?

@angelawossname

Жыл бұрын

If you want info on different English bible translations, Matt Baker from "Useful Charts" has a really great video. NIV is pretty standard and easy to understand, though.

@AkAkAkNeil

Жыл бұрын

@@angelawossname awesome, thanks heaps, I was looking for a video just like that!! I'd heard NIV was good, but wanted more details :-)

@AkAkAkNeil

Жыл бұрын

@@angelawossname yep he had a great video, now I must get an NRSV version for the appealing flourishy use of language too, thanks!

@HistoryandReviews

Жыл бұрын

@@AkAkAkNeil “appealing language “ is NOT ACCURATE

@donatist59

Жыл бұрын

​@@AkAkAkNeilNRSV is probably the best scholarly translation.

amazing!

If one were to put together a most historically accurate account of what Jesus actually taught, it seems entirely possible that it would match up far better with what disciples such as Philip, Thomas, Mary, and the Ebionites/Nazarenes wrote of in their gospels.

@christinemarshall7777

11 ай бұрын

well the first word in the Bible had JESUS inside of it, I'll explain... Genesis 1:1 IN BEGINNING! THAT PHRASE IN BEGINNING IN HEBREW IF YOUR FAMILIAR WITH THE LANGUAGE OR NOT IT HAS 22 LETTERS THAN 22 SYMBOLS THAT MATCH EQUALL TO UPHOLD THE TRUTH. SO THE WORDS IN BEGINNING REPRESENTS 5 HEBREW SYMBOLS THAT SAY...THE CHRIST, DIED,BY HIS OWN HAND, FOR THE WORLDS DEBT, ON THE CROSS. SO THE WORDS IN BEGINNING ACTUALLY MEANS INSIDE OF BEGINNING IS THE CHRIST. THE ONE WHO DIED ON THE CROSS, FILLING THE ONLY SLOT THERE WAS TO FILL BY GOD HIMSELF SETTING A SLOT FOR HIMSELF. INSIDE OF THE WORDS IN BEGINNING ALSO REVEAL JESUS TO BE THE FIRST ALPHA AND OMEGA THE LAST. JESUS WHO IS YESHUA. So.. WHEN CHRIST CAME HE NOT ONLY PRECIEVED GODS WORD HE BECAME GODS WORD WHEN HE DUPLICATED AND BUILT ON HIS OWN WORD, WHICH EXPANDED THE TRUTH IN THE COMPREHENSION OF HUMAN MINDS, BY CREATING MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE,JOHN AND ACTS WHERE HE ROLLED THE STONE AWAY FROM RITUALISTIC SACRIFICES ON THE PHYSICAL ALTER AND CHANGE IT SO THAT WE COULD WORSHIP HIM GOD WITH A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP ON THE SPIRITUAL ALTER OUR MINDS, SO THAT WE WOULD MAKE PERSONAL SACRIFICES FOR THE GREATER GOOD AND THAT DROVE lucifer called satan the devil into darkness where he worships god in secret groups called secret society's where they sacrifice on the physical alter still to defy god. Human SACRIFICES are the high level SACRIFICES. I can go on and on if you want me to. I know alot of Bible secrets you can look up what's the Bible or pigmintation of skin have anything to do with it? First surface man was Black man including Jesus who was a high priest of the black peoples GOD and became the CHRIST. YACUB BRED YOUR FALLEN STATE TO BE MORE FALLEN WHEN HE played satan by playing GOD which was an ABOMINATION OF GOD SO JESUS CAME AND TOOK THE BATTLING YACUB AND YASMALS 720° reversal an ABOMINATION and REORDERED us out of disorder to become allign with GODS ORDER called his word. So JESUS killed the image of pigmintation and or skin with his image so that you would worship skin or pigmentation like the inner earth society was all colors together before the black headed scientists decided from them and isolated off as in the inner community also have blood lines of the black scientists and there elders who are blue and the darker black you'll ever see. You been tricked and told to hate your own image under GOD LOVE ALL. HATE ANOTHER YOU HATE YOURSELF. The First being is unknown to even them yet were all here down then and now and the future is in GODS IMAGE TRUTH TO LIGHT FROM THE HEART OF ABSOLUTE POWER OF GODS CONSCIOUSNESSculture has nothing to do with the one true GOD ARE YOU A PERSON, DO YOU CARE, THEN WE ARE THE SAME. HAVE YOU LIED? HAVE YOU STOLE? HAVE YOU LUSTED AFTER ANOTHER WOMEN? THEN WE ARE THE SAME. THATS WRONG BECAUSE YOU DONT NEED TO STEAL GODS WORD WILL FEED YOU HIS SPIRIT WILL GUIDE YOU. AND YOU WILL NEVER GO WITHOUT. YOU HAVE THE POWER OF GOD HERE ON EARTH STAND UP AND SHOCK EVERYONE WITH YOUR TRUTH YOUR RIGHTOUSNESS NOT EXCUSES. WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND WE DESERVE WHAT GOD HAS INSTORE FOR US. GOODNESS AND LOVE FOR EACH OTHER AND TO ELIMINATE ALL THE EVIL BS OVER MONEY and greed and withholding knowledge that's not GOD AND THATS WHAT YOU HAVE FOR NOW. I GREW UP POOR IM FROM MUSKEGON MI LOOK IT UP IT WAS #1 MURDER CAPITAL OF AMERICA IN 2017 AND ON THE LIST OTHER. JUST SAYING IM AT WHERE PEOPLE SAY IS THE BOTTOM AND THE LORD GOD HAS MADE ME FEEL LIKE THE RICHES MAN IN THE WORLD SO IT DONT MATTER. I WAS BEFORE MY CLEAR TRANSFORMATION IN ONE MOMENT I SWEAR I JUST HAD IT LIKE BOOM. BUT I BEEN TO PRISON TWICE AND MUCH MORE JUVENILE BEFORE FOR GUNS, DRUGS. AND I DID IT BIG KILLED EM WAS DOING GREAT 👍 SO THEY SAY. I BEEN A GANG BANGER FOR 20 YEARS, IVE HAD SAFE CTACKINGS AND MOBB BRUTALITY, REAL ROUGH AND I AINT LYING JACK. BUT I ALWAYS HAD A GOOD HEART AND SIMPATHIZED WITH MY PAIN OF MY ATTITUDE AND HOW IT WAS, INSTEAD OF MY APTITUDE AND HOW I CAN BE INSTEAD. IT WAS SO ROUGH WHERE IM FROM THEY TEACH EBONICS TO EVERYONE IN SCHOOL. WHITE CULTER WAS NOT ONLY SLAVES IN EGYPT THEY AT ONE POINT IN AMERICA WE HAD MORE WHITE SLAVES THAN BLACK SLAVES AND OR ALL OTHERS CONBINED. SO THATS THE TRUTH NOT WHAT YOU BEEN TAUGHT TO THINK WHERE EVER YOU ARE FROM IF YOUR NAME REPRESENTS WHERE YOU ARE e you from correcting you I will pre correct you so you don't have to go thru the back and forth. Who are the white people in the Bible? THEY were the jews they call the Egyptian slaves, that the black rulers defied thier own GOD ,called knowledge. And they not only made white people they enslaved them and controled them and made us fight each other and more. But they knew the lord a decendant of Abraham. He a Jewish/Islamic man adopted GODS TRUE WORD AND HAD FAITH WHICH lead Egypt to free GODS PEOPLE AND THE SLAVES WHICH MOST SLAVES BELIEVE IN GOD IN THOSE DUNGOENS, BUT SOME DIDNT AND THEY STARTED TO REBELL AGAINST PHARAOH'S RULE BY DEVELOPING SLIGHT OF HAND AND TRICKERY TO SNEAK FOOD TO FEED THIER PEOPLE AND PASS ALONG KNOWLEDGE AND THEY WERE RELEAST FROM EGYPT IN THE GUISE OF THE FREED SLAVES WHO WERE GOD'S PEOPLE BUT WHO SOME WENT AFTER THE RED SEA AND WENT INTO THE DESERT FOR 40 YEARS BUT THE OTHERS SPLIT DEFYING GOD WHO DILIVERED THEM TOOK THIER FREEDOM AND FLEED INTO THE EUROPEAN MOUNTAINS AND FORMED A SECRET SOCIETY IN A SOCIETY CALLED THE ILLUMINATI. SO THATS THE DEAL BUT WHEN JESUS CAME TO DELIVER THEM THEY KILLED THE STATE KILLED HIM. THE TRUE KHAZARIAN JEWS ARENT THE JEWISH PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE WHITE ZIONIST CUBES ON THIER HEAD, THEY ARE GATES TO THE THROWN OF THE SECRET OF THE CUBE THE BLACK SECRET RULERS WEAR THE CIRCLE ON THIER HANDS AND THIER HEADS, THE CIRCLE HEADS ARE BLACK THE CUBEHEADS ARE WHITE, YASMAL AND YACUBS IDEOLOGYS BEING RESURRECTED TO CAUSE EVIL IN THIS WORLD BUT ITS ONLY KILLED WHEN JESUS RETURNS. THEY HAVE JOINED TO KILL ALL PEOPLE BY MINIPULATION TO REVERSE WHAT IS TO RESTORE AN ABOMINATION THAT GOD HIMSELF HAS CORRECTED

Thanks

Great lecture, you should do a lecture on how the gentiles were the lost sheep of Israel.

The Trinity is not difficult to understand when we understand the music triad: i.e. C, E, G, in a C Major chord: C is not E, & G is not E. Keeping kosher allows us to distinguish between the clean & unclean. Other nations (Goyim) didn't understand circumcision & laughter distinguishes us from animal kingdoms!

Ok, bruh, I want this explained, wat is the One God that is being referenced?, what did IMMANUEL learn when HE was in KEMET?, HE went back to Jerusalem and spoke of ONE GOD, remember the region of earth they are, AND watt types of Dietes were around at that time

I think these lost gospels that potentially represents a jewish perspective of Christ's life are so important. For me as a believer, one of my biggest problems is the resurrection stories of Christ. from a passion/witness sense they are virtually none existent imo, because gentile sources seem separated from the original Jewish church.. We have Acts saying Jesus appeared to 500 people at one time. We have Paul saying Jesus appeared to all his disciples at various times and Paul says Jesus appeared to him too. And yet we have nothing of these amazing events apart from second hand accounts, why? Should this not be the greatest story ever told? I certainly think so. And yet these lost gospels could have had this vital information but lost forever. History proves, that early gentile church fathers, would have destroyed such works if there was a hint that subject matter conflicted with their own Pauline beliefs. No doubt, a authentic gospel from a Jewish source that claimed Jesus was not God, or the holy spirit was female or that Christian believers must live by Jewish law would have been enough for these books to be destroyed. To think, what may have been lost, through dogma and arrogant men? Let's just hope, that if such gospels exist, even through a chance find like Egyptian death masks made from papyri and scrolls etc, they can still be found. God willing, they will be found if they exist.

@bunchlead

Жыл бұрын

Sorry guys, Corinthians via Paul says Jesus appeared to 500 people at one time.

@sam-xb9yc

Жыл бұрын

Obviously something amazing happened with Jesus history and time are literally based on before and after his death. What more can we have than the apostles eye witness accounts it's not like someone could have snapped a photo.. there is more proof and evidence of Christ's life, death, and resurrection than any other event in human history. If we believe anything from the history books we would certainly be foolish not to believe the gospels that actually have many witnesses all with their unique separate accounts of the same events if everything was word for word identical it would seem copied and false but they do all tell the same story. These people did not suffer torture and death for a lie or a mixed up misunderstood story no they were faithful until death following the example of Messiah as part of his everlasting kingdom.

@sam-xb9yc

Жыл бұрын

The church has been corrupted religion is mixed up but the truth remains the same.

@donatist59

Жыл бұрын

In the age before the printing press, not every manuscript survived.

Well now I started Christianity in homes I brought it back in homes I have over 27000 young people preaching My gospel on Earth now

Very good

Great 👍

At minute 26 it appears that the end of all things did come to pass as to the law being observed and may well be what Jesus meant in John chapter 10 verse16; I have other sheep that are not of this fold. I must bring them in as well, and they will listen to My voice. Then there will be one flock and one shepherd. Especially since the high priest said to Pilate; we have no King but Caesar and All the people answered, “His blood be on us and on our children!”

@1:20:00 not sure of when it started, nobody really is given that the expectations of moshiach are not found within the torah (thus why Karaites and other non-rabbinic Jews don't have a messianic construct), but the concept of being vegetarian in the messianic age has long been a part of jewish thought so that may be at least partly their basis. The traditional answer is that when Moshiach comes we are to return to how things were in Gan Eden (which was prior to the permission to eat meat). HaRav Kook takes it further and says in the third Beis haMikdash there will only be the mincha and grain offerings. Many Jewish vegetarian advocacy organizations today, particularly those with a religious basis, point to being vegetarian as a way of hastening the coming of Moshiach. Major caveat though, we have to be really careful of anachoronisms here as while the concept of a Messianic figure and restoration of the Davidic line certainly existed in the second temple period (thus why most male line descendents were kept in Persia until the fall of the Abbasid Caliphate) the concept of who Moshiach would be and his qualifications or for that matter how many there would be were really not crystalized fully until the talmudic age. All of that is to say as a former orthodox jew, the ebionites being vegetarian is the one part that makes the most sense.

@angelawossname

Жыл бұрын

Thankyou for this, as someone who is ethnically Jewish, but not practising, I knew that many Jews were vegetarian or vegan, but I didn't know why.

Someone has removed the diacritical marks from the earliest Korans (which were added in 8-9th century by the Abbasids) to the original Nabatean Arabic brought in by the Umayyads and then translated them to Aramaic and they are early Christian hymns and psalms which might go back to the early preachings from the Nazarenes/Ebonite’s

When you take scripture literally confusion sets in until you have a sense of humor as found in the ''Wisdom of Solomon'' when he stated. "Laughter is a great medicine" especially when St.Thomas became "The Ruler over the All" when, in astonishment, he discovers the Christed sense of humor thus becoming the Tao-man/Twin of God!

@christinemarshall7777

11 ай бұрын

Laughing is domonic and is connected to evil, wicked, and soulless minds. Smiling is the feeling of good you get for the rightous just thought and accomplishment

@christinemarshall7777

11 ай бұрын

Laughter is a great medicine... is a thought. Inside this thought is the illness, and that illness is the hidden truth of that statement and that is Laughter sooths your disease. It manages the symptoms but doesn't get to the root of the problem. GODS word his TRUTH gets to the root of it and cast it up and out.

wow i just discovered that i know that gospel. i studied in a jesuit school, so oh as to study religion every year and i remember the “my mother took me from the hair to mount Tabor”…. never new where that came from….

@christinemarshall7777

11 ай бұрын

Mother took me by one of my hairs he said. Took him by "one" of his hairs and biblically and historically hairs is to hear its a thought, its to see, he saw. So mother took me by one of my hairs is mother took me by one of my pure visions to the Mount. The mount he always went to pray and attack demons. He took what he saw to the mount and prayed on it for the answer. I poorly explained that but if anyone ask me to expand I will in depth

Dang just tuned in a bit too late for the q&a

It's a shame how distorted and changed the gospels have been. Like Jesus's brother James, why was he written out?

Someone asked about Sidney Rigdon compared to Paul. I compare Paul to Joseph Smith Jr. Both saw visions (of the Christ?) And then later Strang claimed also.

( the Jerusalem church under James the Just is part of what James Tabor calls "The Jesus Dynasty" )

@willempasterkamp862

Жыл бұрын

James the Just = Germanicus = Paul = Camillus

With you standing in front of that mystic whorl bathed in different-colored light, I thought maybe you were some sort of semi-divine being. I kept expecting you to extend your arm and have powerful rays come out of your fingertips. Then you said you needed a glass of water, and I'm like, "Oh, he's just some dude." Excellent talk, though!

The Gospel of Jesus was originally one book, written by Lazarus in consultation with the Apostles [John 21:24] and published soon after Jesus left them on their own. The religion was hijacked by Rome, the Gospel was broken up scrambled adulterated into a bunch of competing narratives. Later four of those adulterated gospels were canonized with falsely ascribed authorship and a Gnosticism cover-story. It was the finding of an original Gospel of Jesus scroll in Jerusalem that gained the Knights Templar power over the Church and their eventual undoing when the church finally retaliated against them Friday 13th.

@termination9353

Жыл бұрын

If you only have a mention of Ebonite Gospel texts of one contemporary writer... how can you make any definitive claim that Ebionites were vegetarian?

@yahyaelmi8435

8 ай бұрын

So prophet Muhamed is right SAW

@termination9353

8 ай бұрын

@@yahyaelmi8435 But your Hadith writers are wrong.

@yahyaelmi8435

8 ай бұрын

@@termination9353 it’s not it can be traced back to the companions of the prophet . Go do some research don’t let the shaitan deceive you from accepting Islam . Always remember his attacks increase when you about to accept the truth . Prophet Muhamed believes in Jesus . The Jesus the nazaranes Jewish believed. We believe in the same injiil

( Episcopalians here -- that church, the U.S. democratic wing of Anglicans, claims to have bishops in Apostolic Succession back to St. Peter )

@willempasterkamp862

Жыл бұрын

Peter (simon magus/magnus) was the priest of Jupiter, and of the divined Claudius (Joseph) his co-priestess (female disciple) was Agrippina minor, the widow (Mary) according Acts of the Nazoreans. Christianity murphed from ceasarism, the flavians introduced mithraism including their own priesthood, when the flavians fell Clemens is appointed as head of the official cult.

4:20 They indeed are breakoffs of the Proto-Orthodox Church Marcionites came from Marcion, whose Father was a bishop in the Church. His own father excomunicate him and he set up his own sect. As Saint Iraeneus tell us, the Gnostic leaders of the many gnostic sects were all ex-members of the One Church. The Ebionite/Nazarene judeazers were a breakoff from the Church from the Council in Acts 15. Their side on the controversy lost the argumentation, even James, that they claimed was their leader, retrieve his position on circumcision and law keeping after a council decided otherwise. He stayed in the Church, but the more fanatics prefered to leave the church.

Fascinating... I do think James' "pro-works" discussion is more about "putting your money where your mouth is," ie. walking / working out what we profess to believe, than adherence to the law... because it is in the living (it out) that the testimony of our faith stands strong & as a beacon of Christ - which is where the Church has often stumbled. And in the "living it out," Always by the Grace of God, Not by a sense of "blind" obedience to the faith, the Truth of God's Word of Grace settles (as the unbreakable bones of Scripture) into our bones, empowering our walk unto longevity & strength, taking us from faith to faith, By Grace upon Grace. I do believe that what Jesus says in Matthew 5 (inc. 17-19) Not Only represents All the perfect holiness that "rests" on the believer's shoulders to bear, in representing Christ; But albeit the Redemption of the Cross is upon the whole world, the law stands True & Real for those who reject Grace - believer or unbeliever. For believers it is the "scourging" of the Father, because being under law ultimately will wear us out & near kill us with condemnation & after hitting our heads against that stone wall for long enough & when we finally come to the realisation that we're living under the law, Grace & Truth comes running to refresh & restore us unto sonship - even though we always were. For the unbeliever, it is undeniably alive & active in their lives Still to bring them to repentance - But Never to Stay under: the law Blinds us the Goodness & Mercy of God; & we fool ourselves if we think that we can attain to God's standard of holiness in our own strength; except for throwing our hands up in surrender, admitting our weakness so that His Strength to overcome, is Made Perfect IN our weakness; where HIS Perfect LIFE in us is Allowed to Live & operate IN & Through us. So that the law is indeed fulfilled in us, NOT by being mindful of the law, but of HIM, Who lived Perfectly, so He could be our Substitute for obedience; as well our Sacrificial Lamb in payment for our missing the Mark - a double Covering, which actually Transforms by the acknowledging of His Body & Blood. Where James 2:8-10 reaffirms what Christ (Matt. 22:36-40; Luke 37:36-37; Jn. 13:34) , Paul (Rom. 13:8-14; Gal. 5:14) & John (1John 2:10) testify: that LOVE is the fulfilment of the law; it is saying how impossible it is to live under the law, NOT championing that kind of life. And considering that God (therefore Christ) IS LOVE: when we are captivated by HIM & consciously allow / invite Him to Live IN & Through us ("have His Way"), we will "naturally" be so Acquainted with LOVE that we will LOVE unrestrained & unconditionally that His LOVE, LIFE & LIBERTY will be preached through us, even without us being overly mindful to do so (by Grace) - ie. bearing Witness to Who He IS.

I would love to see you do a lecture on the complex evolution of Jewish Christianity - - a tradition which has endured even to this day in the Mar Thoma (Indian/Kerala/Malabar) and Ethiopian/Eritrean "Eastern Orthodox" faiths - - neither Catholic, nor Protestant, nor Orthodox.

John wasnt martyred due to him being on patmos and wrote yahushua last sayings

I like this guy steady even tone, and the fact that he does not talk down to people. But I don’t agree with him on the idea that there wasn’t some sort of centralized Christian authority. I agree that it was not necessarily as tightly organized as later institutions, but I do think that, the apostolic body was the critical unifying element. And I notes that one of the early church fathers, Irenaeus , at a very early date declares that when all of the apostles were dead, the heretics sprang up like mushrooms. This matches the writings of Clement, Ignatius, and Polycarp, who, writing even earlier, indicated the concern that they had that the church was disintegrating, because the apostles were no longer found, and they advocated that members of the church should adhere to the bishops with the idea that they were not as great as the apostles, but they were all that the church had at the time. So to me, this indicates that there was a centralizing authority, the apostles, and that they had all died, and the result was chaos and confusion. Looking further backward, the apostles did not seem to always be in agreement but they did have an internal structure and they process by which they could come to agreement and because they were far fewer of them then there were bishops. It was easier for them to come to that agreement. And they represented the primal and basic and fundamental authority in the church. And this is not to say that the church was absolutely unified in the days of the apostles. It is quite clear that during the time of the apostles, there were people who rejected the apostles and started their own religious movements. I am thinking of Diotrephes who John wrote about. But I do not think that this means that there were multiple legitimate Christianities. Only that the breakaway movements started quite early. But, unless Paul himself represents a major breakaway movement (and the might), it is reasonable to show that the apostles were the early unifying element and authority of the church.

Syn /Sin Akkadian for the moon god Nanna father of the sun god Shamash with the goddess Inanna /Ishtar its where you get the word Synagogue from.

@woodygilson3465

Жыл бұрын

Except for that "synagogue" is of Greek etymology, not Semitic or Near Eastern.

Deceived and deceiving others.

It is easier for a camel to go through a eye of a needle than it is for a rich man to get into heaven. That's true but out of context. The fact is a needle or the eye of one wasn't invented yet. And a eye of a needle was an archway that divided town from town. So it's easier for a camel to get in for its bare less baggage so to get into heaven the rich would have to stoop low to fit all thier stuff through the archways that aren't avoidable in some places so it would be more dangerous also because in those days people were road side ancient stag coach robbers so it would be hard

@xp8969

3 ай бұрын

Imagine falling for that lie 😂

@christinemarshall7777

3 ай бұрын

@@xp8969 for sure race is an illusion to me...well the first word in the Bible had JESUS inside of it, I'll explain... Genesis 1:1 IN BEGINNING! THAT PHRASE IN BEGINNING IN HEBREW IF YOUR FAMILIAR WITH THE LANGUAGE OR NOT IT HAS 22 LETTERS THAN 22 SYMBOLS THAT MATCH EQUALL TO UPHOLD THE TRUTH. SO THE WORDS IN BEGINNING REPRESENTS 5 HEBREW SYMBOLS THAT SAY...THE CHRIST, DIED,BY HIS OWN HAND, FOR THE WORLDS DEBT, ON THE CROSS. SO THE WORDS IN BEGINNING ACTUALLY MEANS INSIDE OF BEGINNING IS THE CHRIST. THE ONE WHO DIED ON THE CROSS, FILLING THE ONLY SLOT THERE WAS TO FILL BY GOD HIMSELF SETTING A SLOT FOR HIMSELF. INSIDE OF THE WORDS IN BEGINNING ALSO REVEAL JESUS TO BE THE FIRST ALPHA AND OMEGA THE LAST. JESUS WHO IS YESHUA. So.. WHEN CHRIST CAME HE NOT ONLY PRECIEVED GODS WORD HE BECAME GODS WORD WHEN HE DUPLICATED AND BUILT ON HIS OWN WORD, WHICH EXPANDED THE TRUTH IN THE COMPREHENSION OF HUMAN MINDS, BY CREATING MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE,JOHN AND ACTS WHERE HE ROLLED THE STONE AWAY FROM RITUALISTIC SACRIFICES ON THE PHYSICAL ALTER AND CHANGE IT SO THAT WE COULD WORSHIP HIM GOD WITH A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP ON THE SPIRITUAL ALTER OUR MINDS, SO THAT WE WOULD MAKE PERSONAL SACRIFICES FOR THE GREATER GOOD AND THAT DROVE lucifer called satan the devil into darkness where he worships god in secret groups called secret society's where they sacrifice on the physical alter still to defy god. Human SACRIFICES are the high level SACRIFICES. I can go on and on if you want me to. I know alot of Bible secrets you can look up what's the Bible or pigmintation of skin have anything to do with it? First surface man was Black man including Jesus who was a high priest of the black peoples GOD and became the CHRIST. YACUB BRED YOUR FALLEN STATE TO BE MORE FALLEN WHEN HE played satan by playing GOD which was an ABOMINATION OF GOD SO JESUS CAME AND TOOK THE BATTLING YACUB AND YASMALS 720° reversal an ABOMINATION and REORDERED us out of disorder to become allign with GODS ORDER called his word. So JESUS killed the image of pigmintation and or skin with his image so that you would worship skin or pigmentation like the inner earth society was all colors together before the black headed scientists decided from them and isolated off as in the inner community also have blood lines of the black scientists and there elders who are blue and the darker black you'll ever see. You been tricked and told to hate your own image under GOD LOVE ALL. HATE ANOTHER YOU HATE YOURSELF. The First being is unknown to even them yet were all here down then and now and the future is in GODS IMAGE TRUTH TO LIGHT FROM THE HEART OF ABSOLUTE POWER OF GODS CONSCIOUSNESSculture has nothing to do with the one true GOD ARE YOU A PERSON, DO YOU CARE, THEN WE ARE THE SAME. HAVE YOU LIED? HAVE YOU STOLE? HAVE YOU LUSTED AFTER ANOTHER WOMEN? THEN WE ARE THE SAME. THATS WRONG BECAUSE YOU DONT NEED TO STEAL GODS WORD WILL FEED YOU HIS SPIRIT WILL GUIDE YOU. AND YOU WILL NEVER GO WITHOUT. YOU HAVE THE POWER OF GOD HERE ON EARTH STAND UP AND SHOCK EVERYONE WITH YOUR TRUTH YOUR RIGHTOUSNESS NOT EXCUSES. WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND WE DESERVE WHAT GOD HAS INSTORE FOR US. GOODNESS AND LOVE FOR EACH OTHER AND TO ELIMINATE ALL THE EVIL BS OVER MONEY and greed and withholding knowledge that's not GOD AND THATS WHAT YOU HAVE FOR NOW. I GREW UP POOR IM FROM MUSKEGON MI LOOK IT UP IT WAS #1 MURDER CAPITAL OF AMERICA IN 2017 AND ON THE LIST OTHER. JUST SAYING IM AT WHERE PEOPLE SAY IS THE BOTTOM AND THE LORD GOD HAS MADE ME FEEL LIKE THE RICHES MAN IN THE WORLD SO IT DONT MATTER. I WAS BEFORE MY CLEAR TRANSFORMATION IN ONE MOMENT I SWEAR I JUST HAD IT LIKE BOOM. BUT I BEEN TO PRISON TWICE AND MUCH MORE JUVENILE BEFORE FOR GUNS, DRUGS. AND I DID IT BIG KILLED EM WAS DOING GREAT 👍 SO THEY SAY. I BEEN A GANG BANGER FOR 20 YEARS, IVE HAD SAFE CTACKINGS AND MOBB BRUTALITY, REAL ROUGH AND I AINT LYING JACK. BUT I ALWAYS HAD A GOOD HEART AND SIMPATHIZED WITH MY PAIN OF MY ATTITUDE AND HOW IT WAS, INSTEAD OF MY APTITUDE AND HOW I CAN BE INSTEAD. IT WAS SO ROUGH WHERE IM FROM THEY TEACH EBONICS TO EVERYONE IN SCHOOL. WHITE CULTER WAS NOT ONLY SLAVES IN EGYPT THEY AT ONE POINT IN AMERICA WE HAD MORE WHITE SLAVES THAN BLACK SLAVES AND OR ALL OTHERS CONBINED. SO THATS THE TRUTH NOT WHAT YOU BEEN TAUGHT TO THINK WHERE EVER YOU ARE FROM IF YOUR NAME REPRESENTS WHERE YOU ARE e you from correcting you I will pre correct you so you don't have to go thru the back and forth. Who are the white people in the Bible? THEY were the jews they call the Egyptian slaves, that the black rulers defied thier own GOD ,called knowledge. And they not only made white people they enslaved them and controled them and made us fight each other and more. But they knew the lord a decendant of Abraham. He a Jewish/Islamic man adopted GODS TRUE WORD AND HAD FAITH WHICH lead Egypt to free GODS PEOPLE AND THE SLAVES WHICH MOST SLAVES BELIEVE IN GOD IN THOSE DUNGOENS, BUT SOME DIDNT AND THEY STARTED TO REBELL AGAINST PHARAOH'S RULE BY DEVELOPING SLIGHT OF HAND AND TRICKERY TO SNEAK FOOD TO FEED THIER PEOPLE AND PASS ALONG KNOWLEDGE AND THEY WERE RELEAST FROM EGYPT IN THE GUISE OF THE FREED SLAVES WHO WERE GOD'S PEOPLE BUT WHO SOME WENT AFTER THE RED SEA AND WENT INTO THE DESERT FOR 40 YEARS BUT THE OTHERS SPLIT DEFYING GOD WHO DILIVERED THEM TOOK THIER FREEDOM AND FLEED INTO THE EUROPEAN MOUNTAINS AND FORMED A SECRET SOCIETY IN A SOCIETY CALLED THE ILLUMINATI. SO THATS THE DEAL BUT WHEN JESUS CAME TO DELIVER THEM THEY KILLED THE STATE KILLED HIM. THE TRUE KHAZARIAN JEWS ARENT THE JEWISH PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE WHITE ZIONIST CUBES ON THIER HEAD, THEY ARE GATES TO THE THROWN OF THE SECRET OF THE CUBE THE BLACK SECRET RULERS WEAR THE CIRCLE ON THIER HANDS AND THIER HEADS, THE CIRCLE HEADS ARE BLACK THE CUBEHEADS ARE WHITE, YASMAL AND YACUBS IDEOLOGYS BEING RESURRECTED TO CAUSE EVIL IN THIS WORLD BUT ITS ONLY KILLED WHEN JESUS RETURNS. THEY HAVE JOINED TO KILL ALL PEOPLE BY MINIPULATION TO REVERSE WHAT IS TO RESTORE AN ABOMINATION THAT GOD HIMSELF HAS CORRECTEDthe word's in beginning litterally said the christ will die on a cross and it was the symbol of the cross. And this was long before Rome and Roman's who first used the cross to crucify people that rebelled and later they burned the cross to scare the peasants of the state to remind them to never think about rebbeling. And anytime someone was caught going against the state they would be crucified on a cross it was for revolutionaries only. So the 2 thieves are a lie, that they were enemies of the state beside JESUS being revolutionist so they crucified them to be seen by the people.They weren't criminals in rome they only put people against the state, aka revolutionaries only bore the cross, and for them to do JESUS this was ironically iconic and. And was perfectly planned BY GOD FOR THE CHRIST TO BECOME GOD AND IS GOD. Judas and the other 11 apostles were childhood friends they all grew up together along with John the Baptist being Jesus's cousin everything we've been told and taught is a fabrication a far stretch of the truth a lie a concealment a cover-up a counterfeit a evil replica in most cases just like reality reality is an illusion reality is not real it is a evil replica of God's ality your original origination is called ality that's your original pre-fall and State you're falling state is called reality is the construct of Satan's Matrix keeping you in a slave system with a psyop on your brain to keep you in a paradoxal form of double Asylum what's the saying mind is actually referred to as the double Asylum the insane mind is the asylum God doesn't want you to have a saying mind he taught us to have a sound mind and just like reality being the Matrix system of Lucifer called Satan the devil himself I will have to add that time is not real time is false time is an illusion time is a counterfeit of God's space. Space and time are one in the same except one is the evil replica of God's space time is a breakdown of segments in pixels the isolate moments to manipulate the whole event God said it is the space of a half hour not the time of a half hour and what was God coming to come do when he comes on Judgement Day he's coming to end time as a evil construct psyop of the serpent just like the Sabbath day the Sabbath day is demonic for that it worships time it's a Time worship which was a stumbling block in front of the Jewish people of Israel

Peter was just one of the five Bishops of the Christian Church. But, why was Peter the Bishop? Seems like Paul had done all/most of the groundwork!!! The 'Church' was composed of Gentiles (Paul), not Jews (Peter). Was Paul and Simon Magus one and the same person?

@xp8969

3 ай бұрын

Because Jesus chose Peter to run the Church

@veryoldjohnson

3 ай бұрын

@@xp8969 : Jesus chose His Brother James to run His Church!!!

They were never the same stories. All trips taken by JESUS that he traveled to the same places on different trips with different apostles that sometimes had different APOSTOLIC positioning and annointments for each trip. He walked alot and traveled around and about

We must not deny Christ yet Peter denied him 3 times !!

@christinemarshall7777

11 ай бұрын

Yeah that's the lesson and when he denies GODS thought over your own then you are wrong and must repent

Also something else very important, the word church and the concept is not even found in any original biblical text Bishops Deacons presiders, all these things are fourth century and were inserted into the book by the catholics, none of these things existed before the 4th century and those are historical facts all you have to do is an etymology on it.. So in truth these concepts of churches deacons and Bishops never came out of the Apostles mouth and it never came out of Jesus's mouth a single time.. What the original text is referring to is the setting up of the final Temple made without hands Eternal in the heavens which would be set up to oversee the New New Covenant levitical priesthood, It was saying nothing whatsoever about building a church, matter of fact these concepts of church and corporate ideology are false and have been inserted by people like the catholics, in an attempt to bring the people back under a corporate Covenant where mother Church rules over them. In doing so they are completely contradicting the New Covenant guidance found in Jeremiah 31:34 which clearly states in the New Covenant you would have no need to be taught by anyone or to go to church to learn, because those who were chosen have the spirit of God leading and guiding them in all truth. Mother Church doesn't have any lot nor part in the matter whatsoever

What do you think of the recently found Hebrew Gospel of Matthew ?

I am a former Christian but recently I went down the rabbit hole on early Christianity. I wish we learned all that in Catholic school 😂😂😂😂

@Gunni1972

2 ай бұрын

I am so glad, i realized i had morals way before i went into religion (Catholic) school.

@americanlostinvietnam3721

17 күн бұрын

You should refer to yourself as a former Catholic and not a former Christian.

@erinpilla

17 күн бұрын

@@americanlostinvietnam3721 No I really called it quits with Christianity not just Catholicism and yes, I've been Catholic, Methodist, Pentecostal. That's enough for an informed decision I guess

@americanlostinvietnam3721

17 күн бұрын

@@erinpilla sad

@erinpilla

17 күн бұрын

@@americanlostinvietnam3721 it's not sad people convert religions or even deny them because it's their spiritual journey.

The one thing that is immediately historically in accurate are the 17th century illustrations used by the presenter and retelling a story of the start of this religion. It may not be important. It is certainly a Blindspot, but the racial make up of those people during that time looked nothing like those paintings for the 18th century Europe, and definitely don’t look like the people who currently occupying that area today. Most people who care about these issues will likely never find this video. However, some have. At least in this particular comment we want that issue raised so that a discussion on pulling apart both the mythology around, the religion, parsing together the history outside of religious belief, and finally examining the conclusions of historians and the consensus that gets developed and promulgated because of it.

Ebionites Nazorenes became the Waldenses

I watched the Jones interview (he is a great interviewer) and it was very interesting. I have no way to judge Ammon’s scholarship in his primary sources, I’ll assume he knows his stuff as a classist. This chemical foundation of Christianity makes sense as that was common practice in some of the mystery cults at the time. Their mystic rites and philosophy probably overcame Jesus’ initial teachings being against dogmatic righteousness against Pharisees and Temple corporation in favor of simple “do unto others” loving kindness. So, did the historical Jesus, providing there was one, a practicing Jew, engaged in this venom activity himself or was it later Greek followers cosplaying Jesus into their worship rites? Dr Hellman is using narratives written after Jesus’ death by Greek Jews and pagans who had adopted a lot of mystery cults ideas into their worship of him as a god. Yet, we know Jesus wasn’t a god born to virgin via a god nor did the dead climb from their tombs and walk around right after he died. So it is possible he was never in that park with that kid, your honor. Hillman’s theory does explain a lot about the character of the Church once they started reading the original texts down in the Vatican vaults, as he did figuratively. This also explains the St Patrick myth driving out the snakes in Ireland. The Celtic monks were into something mind-altering, I daresay.

If you believe that the Holy Spirit guides Christianity, wouldn’t that mean that the view of the one true church going back to the apostles with heretical offshoots here and there is essentially correct, retrospective as it may be? Yes, it’s the view of the group that won. Had the Gnostics won, they may very well have told the same story with themselves in the centre. But they didn’t win. I can see how atheists may question the story. But I can’t see how Christians can. If the Holy Spirit guides Christianity, then of course the true faith will eventually win out. It would have done so in the past and it would do so in the future. If on the other hand the Holy Spirit doesn’t guide Christianity, then Christians may as well stop right there and give up. In that case, it would be a cosmic coincidence if any form of Christianity today had anything whatsoever to do with Jesus‘ teachings. Christian beliefs today would just be a random function of how well any given ancient belief system was adapted to convert as many people as possible. Truth wouldn’t have been a requirement for that. If anything, it would be a hindrance. A Darwinism of the faith if you will.

Love the critical history, loathe the liberal theology and worship. But thank you for this lecture!

@nosuchthing8

Жыл бұрын

What liberal theology? It's just a history class.

@Robert_L_Peters

Жыл бұрын

@@nosuchthing8 sorry, I was referring to the online services. If you subscribe (as I do, for these lectures), you will be notified of at least two each Sunday. I find them unbearable, but if you're curious you can check them out.

@nosuchthing8

Жыл бұрын

@@Robert_L_Peters Fair enough. I find them amazing.

@angelawossname

Жыл бұрын

Well be wouldn't be giving intellectually honest lectures like this if he was involved in conservative theology. But you don't have to watch the services, I certainly dont.

@Robert_L_Peters

Жыл бұрын

@@angelawossname true enough. I do hope that 'intellectual honesty' and liberal theology do not necessarily go together because I'm not there and I hope I'm not alone!

James reference in Thomas isn't conclusive of any historical figure related to Jesus Jacob being such a common name; all these different variants of the name implies different historical figures

One is entitled to one’s opinions, but one is NOT entitled to misrepresent the state of scholarly opinion to make it sound as if you are merely reporting a scholarly consensus - when in reality you aren’t. This video repeatedly makes claims about scholarly consensuses on certain issues on which there is no strong consensus. All of the matters he discusses are highly controversial and have been analyzed by many outstanding scholars over the past 20 years, all reaching different conclusions. I wonder whether this content creator has actually read any primary research done in the past 20 years, as opposed to merely repeating older, outdated secondary writings on these subjects. These Jewish gospels have been studied in great detail by many outstanding scholars of late, in doctoral dissertations, essays and full length published scholarly books. There is scarcely anything in this video that is reliable. The statement that “it is agreed” that G.Hebrews was originally in Greek is absolutely false, the issue being extremely controversial. The list of quotations from this gospel is highly controversial, as some scholars assign some of these quotations to the G.Ebionites or G.Nazarenes, which some of the early Church fathers evidently sometimes called G.Hebrews. The consensus of opinion that disciple Matthew did not author the original G.Hebrews does not exist. The consensus of opinion that Matthew and Levi were two different people does not exist. Furthermore, the claim that there was once another document today called Q - stated as if this were indisputable fact -- is hardly indisputable. “Q” arose in the 19th Century because leading scholars refused to consider any possibility that Luke used both Matthew and Mark, and it has since been demonstrated that there is no need at all for “Q” if Luke used both. Every decade fewer and fewer scholars believe in “Q” and the evidence against it continues to mount. It has further been noted by many recent scholars that G.Hebrews might well serve the function that “Q” was created to serve. To reiterate, it isn’t clear from this one video whether the content creator is deliberately trying to mislead his audience into adopting his positions on these issues by appealing to states of consensus where no consensus exist, or whether he simply has not read enough of the recent serious scholarly research on these issues. I strongly urge the audience to read as much as possible of the recent scholarly studies treating the Hebrew Gospels and “Q” for themselves. Much of it can be found on the Internet, and other publications can be ordered at your local library through Interlibrary Loan. Don’t even think about adopting any position on any of these issues until you have read 20-30 recent studies treating of them. It will not take you long to realize that these are all matters of great controversy and have not been settled by consensus as this content creator claims.

@bunchlead

Жыл бұрын

Interesting. If Q doesn't exist, then how does one explain that Mathew, Mark and Luke share the same sources in detail?

@nosuchthing8

7 ай бұрын

No he's in line with other experts. And it's not really relevant if Q existed or not.

@GeraldM_inNC

7 ай бұрын

@@nosuchthing8 You mean he's in line with the experts whose conclusions YOU approve of! When you claim that there is a consensus on issues for which no consensus exists, you are either being dishonest or you are exposing how little you have read of the scholarship on those issues.

OK Faith without Works is dead 💝 You hear , do this ,,, and you don't do it . The word that you heard is dead without performance . Look to SEE what He would say ,,,, look for the video that comes with a WORD ,,,, You hear ,,, Do this ,,, and you SEE yourself doing it ,,, Confirmation,,,,, Faith comes by hearing God talk to you personally 😮 Faith comes by hearing and hearing by the WORD,,, Word here is the Holy Spirit so faith comes by hearing the Holy Spirit talk to you personally ! All will be taught by God ,,, taught here is,, Sound Down into the Ears,,, Knock Knock Hear Yahweh's Voice and Obey so it will be well with You !

@Tom-cv7sf

11 ай бұрын

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Interesting. First time I have heard that Islam may be another version of the Jesus Way

@andrewsuryali8540

Жыл бұрын

When Islam first appeared the Romans thought it was yet another heresy, so Christians originally "knew" Islam was a continuation of the Jesus movement. Early Muslims made exactly that claim, after all. It was only after the 8th century that both sides decided they were separate religions.

30:47 ❣

The more I see of the videos about the early church, the more I am convinced that Christianity was a man-made religion only nominally based on Jesus'/Yeshua's teachings.

Devil is a mixed up Christian and Hebrews gospel together

Jewish thought, even at the time of Jesus, never thought of the Messiah as God, which even Jesus didn't subscribe to.

And before Constantine in 256 the popular religion of the day was arianism, the whole purpose for the Council of nicaea in 325 as well as the councils of Constantinople 381 the Council of carthage, all of these councils were comprised together to make up legislation to persecute the opposing religions, at the same time the efforts of the Catholic Church were to make up the new Triune God which is still being followed today even though it is a completely false narrative. So in conclusion the church system was responsible for persecuting real Bible believing Christians throughout all ages

@timcoil6224

Жыл бұрын

I agree with you in part, but there was no Catholic Church to begin with and we now know that Peter wasn't the rock Jesus was talking about building his church upon. Michael Heiser shows why this is and was always a falacy. Rather, "James the Just" was the patriarch of the original church after Jesus' ascension proving the point #1 that Peter wasn't the rock in which his church would be built upon and #2 the apostles knew this. #3 Had Jesus said it was Peter, the apostles would have immediately went against Jesus' instructions by electing James. Not likely. #4 Had Jesus given that instruction the Apostles would have immediately elected Peter according to his instructions. Therefore we can conclude that Jesus never gave those instructions. The implications of this are astounding. #1 The Catholic Church was never what GOD intended to be the church. #2 the Catholic Church would be a great imposter, intentionally misleading the flock based upon a false claim of authority that it never had. #3 it has been identified a long time ago among many early Christians that the Catholic Church was aligned with someone else OTHER than Jesus. Care to take a guess at whom it is aligned with according to those Christians?

@robertmcgee1771

Жыл бұрын

@@timcoil6224 well I would partly agree but then mostly disagree as well, when we look at the biblical text we can see clearly in Paul's letters he is referring to the close of their bloodline Covenant that started 430 years before the law was added this is found in Galatians 3:17 Paul is referring you back to Genesis 17: 18 the Everlasting Covenant with Isaac and his bloodline after him. Galatians 3 16 Now to Abraham and his bloodline were the promises made. He saith not, And to bloodlines as of many; but as of one, And to thy bloodline which is Christ. 17And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. In Galatians 4 it tells you the children of Ishmael are the man of sin, the scribes and Pharisees were the tears who were sown among Israel and in turn made Israel's sacrifices and Abomination that was making Israel desolate, Jesus tells them in Luke 11: 49 and following they have to pay for the sins of their fathers all the way back to the killing of abel, (Cain killed Abel) Paul also in Romans 9:7 States that just because people are the children of Abraham does not mean they are heirs to the promises, Paul goes on to say only the bloodline of Isaac can receive the promise ... Romans 9 7Neither, because they are the bloodline of Abraham, are they all children: but, In Isaac shall thy bloodline be called. 8That is, They which are the children of the flesh,= Ishmael ) are not the children of God: but the children of the promise=( Isaac) are counted for the bloodline. 9For this is the word of promise, At this time will I come, and Sara shall have a son. Genesis 17:21 But my covenant will I establish with Isaac, which Sarah shall bear unto thee at this set time in the next year Now Paul would not be telling gentiles this if they were not the northern House of Israel which were only counted as Gentiles through their uncircumcision and being scattered into the other nations.. Religion today is nothing but a pile of boo boo they had no part in any of it from the beginning, therefore there is no succession just like there is no church.. The whole thing is replacement theology the religious community has no part in any of it, you can't have part in a bloodline Covenant if you're not the bloodline

@timcoil6224

Жыл бұрын

@Robert McGee I again agree with you in part, with one exception, those who are grafted in are not part of the bloodline, the northern lost sheep of Israel are still part of the bloodline and don't need to be grafted in, but some Gentiles (non bloodline) are now part of the promise, equal inheritors. Those who are grafted in are clearly from a different (family) tree, different bloodline. In this way the promise would not lose effect but include other believers, those loyal to Jesus. This is easy to see, Jesus made a distinction between the lost sheep (part of the bloodline/family) and the Gentile nations (not of the bloodline) when he said to go to the land of the Gentiles to find the lost sheep who are scattered amongst the Gentiles, clearly they were not of the bloodline the Gentiles. Clearly some will be grafted into the house of Israel.

@robertmcgee1771

Жыл бұрын

@@timcoil6224 your reply is inconclusive, you have to address the scripture let's start with Galatians 3:17 Paul is specifically talking about the promises they would receive at the close of their bloodline Covenant. So in essence the letters are talking about the close Of The Bloodline Covenant and how they have been chosen as the scattered elect remnant the royal priesthood which was being set up for the New Covenant levitical system.. So explain how you would be included with the promises of their bloodline Covenant. Galatians 3 16 Now to Abraham and his bloodline were the promises made. He saith not, And to bloodlines as of many; but as of one, And to thy bloodline which is Christ. 17And this I say, that the covenant, that was confirmed before of God in Christ, the law, which was four hundred and thirty years after, cannot disannul, that it should make the promise of none effect. 18For if the inheritance be of the law, it is no more of promise: but God gave it to Abraham by promise. Also Ephesians 2:11 tells you the northern House of Israel were counted as Gentiles because they were cut off from God. Hosea 1:10 KJV - Yet the number of the children of Israel shall be as the sand of the sea, which cannot be measured nor numbered; and it shall come to pass, that in the place where it was said unto them, Ye are not my people, there it shall be said unto them, Ye are the sons of the living God.

@timcoil6224

Жыл бұрын

@Robert McGee well first we have to explain what it means to be grafted in.. to be grafted in, you are clearly NOT of the same plant/tree. The grafted in branches are foreign to the plant but not rejected by the plant. This is clear. They become one with the plant, growing and being nourished by the original plant and therefore adopted in, considered equal part of and nurtured by the original tree/plant/bloodline by the planter of all of the trees/bloodlines. Remember, with GOD, All things are possible. As to the bloodline of Christ, he made that perfectly clear when he was told his mother was near and wanted to see him. He said who is my mother, brother, etc but those who believe in me. (Mark 3:30-35)In effect he was saying those who follow me are my family, bloodline or not and this is made clear as he was talking with the centurion The Centurion wasn't of the bloodline either but he had great faith,(Matthew 8:5-13. Jesus was going to go to a gentile person's house!!! Neither was the woman seeking healing for her daughter (Matthew 15:27) were Gentiles. And the parable of the good Samaritan for an example as well while we are at it. Jews hated Samaritans and wanted no part with them, yet Jesus himself used the example of one as his hero in the narrative although they are of the house of Israel. Jesus himself showed, grace, mercy, love, healing and forgiveness to Gentiles. Clearly those who follow him that are not of the tree will be grafted in, otherwise there would be no need of grafting at all, that entire section wouldn't even be in the Bible as there would be no need for it as GOD isn't impotent to claim his people of the bloodline that are amongst the Gentiles today, mixed as they are. In the end Jesus on the cross to bring new earth, new heaven, new bodies, new names, new robes. Purified by the blood of the lamb. Would any of that even be necessary if ALL of humanity (Romans 3:23), including the bloodline wasn't contaminated!?

well the first word in the Bible had JESUS inside of it, I'll explain... Genesis 1:1 IN BEGINNING! THAT PHRASE IN BEGINNING IN HEBREW IF YOUR FAMILIAR WITH THE LANGUAGE OR NOT IT HAS 22 LETTERS THAN 22 SYMBOLS THAT MATCH EQUALL TO UPHOLD THE TRUTH. SO THE WORDS IN BEGINNING REPRESENTS 5 HEBREW SYMBOLS THAT SAY...THE CHRIST, DIED,BY HIS OWN HAND, FOR THE WORLDS DEBT, ON THE CROSS. SO THE WORDS IN BEGINNING ACTUALLY MEANS INSIDE OF BEGINNING IS THE CHRIST. THE ONE WHO DIED ON THE CROSS, FILLING THE ONLY SLOT THERE WAS TO FILL BY GOD HIMSELF SETTING A SLOT FOR HIMSELF. INSIDE OF THE WORDS IN BEGINNING ALSO REVEAL JESUS TO BE THE FIRST ALPHA AND OMEGA THE LAST. JESUS WHO IS YESHUA. So.. WHEN CHRIST CAME HE NOT ONLY PRECIEVED GODS WORD HE BECAME GODS WORD WHEN HE DUPLICATED AND BUILT ON HIS OWN WORD, WHICH EXPANDED THE TRUTH IN THE COMPREHENSION OF HUMAN MINDS, BY CREATING MATTHEW, MARK, LUKE,JOHN AND ACTS WHERE HE ROLLED THE STONE AWAY FROM RITUALISTIC SACRIFICES ON THE PHYSICAL ALTER AND CHANGE IT SO THAT WE COULD WORSHIP HIM GOD WITH A PERSONAL RELATIONSHIP ON THE SPIRITUAL ALTER OUR MINDS, SO THAT WE WOULD MAKE PERSONAL SACRIFICES FOR THE GREATER GOOD AND THAT DROVE lucifer called satan the devil into darkness where he worships god in secret groups called secret society's where they sacrifice on the physical alter still to defy god. Human SACRIFICES are the high level SACRIFICES. I can go on and on if you want me to. I know alot of Bible secrets you can look up what's the Bible or pigmintation of skin have anything to do with it? First surface man was Black man including Jesus who was a high priest of the black peoples GOD and became the CHRIST. YACUB BRED YOUR FALLEN STATE TO BE MORE FALLEN WHEN HE played satan by playing GOD which was an ABOMINATION OF GOD SO JESUS CAME AND TOOK THE BATTLING YACUB AND YASMALS 720° reversal an ABOMINATION and REORDERED us out of disorder to become allign with GODS ORDER called his word. So JESUS killed the image of pigmintation and or skin with his image so that you would worship skin or pigmentation like the inner earth society was all colors together before the black headed scientists decided from them and isolated off as in the inner community also have blood lines of the black scientists and there elders who are blue and the darker black you'll ever see. You been tricked and told to hate your own image under GOD LOVE ALL. HATE ANOTHER YOU HATE YOURSELF. The First being is unknown to even them yet were all here down then and now and the future is in GODS IMAGE TRUTH TO LIGHT FROM THE HEART OF ABSOLUTE POWER OF GODS CONSCIOUSNESSculture has nothing to do with the one true GOD ARE YOU A PERSON, DO YOU CARE, THEN WE ARE THE SAME. HAVE YOU LIED? HAVE YOU STOLE? HAVE YOU LUSTED AFTER ANOTHER WOMEN? THEN WE ARE THE SAME. THATS WRONG BECAUSE YOU DONT NEED TO STEAL GODS WORD WILL FEED YOU HIS SPIRIT WILL GUIDE YOU. AND YOU WILL NEVER GO WITHOUT. YOU HAVE THE POWER OF GOD HERE ON EARTH STAND UP AND SHOCK EVERYONE WITH YOUR TRUTH YOUR RIGHTOUSNESS NOT EXCUSES. WE ARE HUMAN BEINGS AND WE DESERVE WHAT GOD HAS INSTORE FOR US. GOODNESS AND LOVE FOR EACH OTHER AND TO ELIMINATE ALL THE EVIL BS OVER MONEY and greed and withholding knowledge that's not GOD AND THATS WHAT YOU HAVE FOR NOW. I GREW UP POOR IM FROM MUSKEGON MI LOOK IT UP IT WAS #1 MURDER CAPITAL OF AMERICA IN 2017 AND ON THE LIST OTHER. JUST SAYING IM AT WHERE PEOPLE SAY IS THE BOTTOM AND THE LORD GOD HAS MADE ME FEEL LIKE THE RICHES MAN IN THE WORLD SO IT DONT MATTER. I WAS BEFORE MY CLEAR TRANSFORMATION IN ONE MOMENT I SWEAR I JUST HAD IT LIKE BOOM. BUT I BEEN TO PRISON TWICE AND MUCH MORE JUVENILE BEFORE FOR GUNS, DRUGS. AND I DID IT BIG KILLED EM WAS DOING GREAT 👍 SO THEY SAY. I BEEN A GANG BANGER FOR 20 YEARS, IVE HAD SAFE CTACKINGS AND MOBB BRUTALITY, REAL ROUGH AND I AINT LYING JACK. BUT I ALWAYS HAD A GOOD HEART AND SIMPATHIZED WITH MY PAIN OF MY ATTITUDE AND HOW IT WAS, INSTEAD OF MY APTITUDE AND HOW I CAN BE INSTEAD. IT WAS SO ROUGH WHERE IM FROM THEY TEACH EBONICS TO EVERYONE IN SCHOOL. WHITE CULTER WAS NOT ONLY SLAVES IN EGYPT THEY AT ONE POINT IN AMERICA WE HAD MORE WHITE SLAVES THAN BLACK SLAVES AND OR ALL OTHERS CONBINED. SO THATS THE TRUTH NOT WHAT YOU BEEN TAUGHT TO THINK WHERE EVER YOU ARE FROM IF YOUR NAME REPRESENTS WHERE YOU ARE e you from correcting you I will pre correct you so you don't have to go thru the back and forth. Who are the white people in the Bible? THEY were the jews they call the Egyptian slaves, that the black rulers defied thier own GOD ,called knowledge. And they not only made white people they enslaved them and controled them and made us fight each other and more. But they knew the lord a decendant of Abraham. He a Jewish/Islamic man adopted GODS TRUE WORD AND HAD FAITH WHICH lead Egypt to free GODS PEOPLE AND THE SLAVES WHICH MOST SLAVES BELIEVE IN GOD IN THOSE DUNGOENS, BUT SOME DIDNT AND THEY STARTED TO REBELL AGAINST PHARAOH'S RULE BY DEVELOPING SLIGHT OF HAND AND TRICKERY TO SNEAK FOOD TO FEED THIER PEOPLE AND PASS ALONG KNOWLEDGE AND THEY WERE RELEAST FROM EGYPT IN THE GUISE OF THE FREED SLAVES WHO WERE GOD'S PEOPLE BUT WHO SOME WENT AFTER THE RED SEA AND WENT INTO THE DESERT FOR 40 YEARS BUT THE OTHERS SPLIT DEFYING GOD WHO DILIVERED THEM TOOK THIER FREEDOM AND FLEED INTO THE EUROPEAN MOUNTAINS AND FORMED A SECRET SOCIETY IN A SOCIETY CALLED THE ILLUMINATI. SO THATS THE DEAL BUT WHEN JESUS CAME TO DELIVER THEM THEY KILLED THE STATE KILLED HIM. THE TRUE KHAZARIAN JEWS ARENT THE JEWISH PEOPLE THAT HAVE THE WHITE ZIONIST CUBES ON THIER HEAD, THEY ARE GATES TO THE THROWN OF THE SECRET OF THE CUBE THE BLACK SECRET RULERS WEAR THE CIRCLE ON THIER HANDS AND THIER HEADS, THE CIRCLE HEADS ARE BLACK THE CUBEHEADS ARE WHITE, YASMAL AND YACUBS IDEOLOGYS BEING RESURRECTED TO CAUSE EVIL IN THIS WORLD BUT ITS ONLY KILLED WHEN JESUS RETURNS. THEY HAVE JOINED TO KILL ALL PEOPLE BY MINIPULATION TO REVERSE WHAT IS TO RESTORE AN ABOMINATION THAT GOD HIMSELF HAS CORRECTED

@nosuchthing8

7 ай бұрын

Too long

I pened 22 letters also acts of Paul and thecla

Hi. I am Greek and have an example to help you understand Elohim. Adam was made first and was alone without a mate or complement when he named the animals. Eve does not exist. Eve is Adam. A rib from Adam is taken to make wo man the compliment of Adam was initially Adam. The same with father and son formed directly by father from within himself. The son was initially his father but a part of father formed the 1st and only begotten God. The son is called 1st and last as he is also the last God formed by the father. The son is alpha and omega as he has a beginning and comes at the end. He is sent and subject to his father even though he is God and is given all authority by father and does his will. The holy spirit is the breath of father whom he sends forth and they are created. Pveuma is linked to pveumoves which are lungs the holy spirit is breath and as God breathes his breath permeates space and is in breathing souls. Soul is the person a breather. Also animals are souls. Humans go back to dust dust we are. No immortal soul/person. The breath of father goes out of a body, he becomes a dead soul without breath from father produced the Son. Breath/spirit is eternal and omnipresent. 3 bear witness. Holy breath dna or traits you are adopted sons you must display fruits and gifts of holy spirit naturally and learnt skills multilingualism is speaking in tongues.

Lost Gospels of the HEBREW(Abrahamic). NAZIRITES(Israelites), EBIONITES(poor), PEREGRINE(pilgrims), HAGGIZ(pilgrims) PENTECOSTALS (Walkers in the Spirit), Samaritan(Sephardic), Evangelic(Greek), Adventists(Roman). Christ did not do away with the LAW. He did away with the Laws of the sacrifices. But not the 10commandments. And the priesthood is now open to the believer head of house. Simon-Kefalu EFERIA-ZEPANIAT

@HistoryandReviews

Жыл бұрын

WRONG! Jesus never got rid of the sacrifices read Acts 21!!

Eating locust. Could that be locust bean & not insects.

A great book is the book of Enoch.

They weren't criminals in rome they only put people against the state, aka revolutionaries only bore the cross, and for them to do JESUS this was ironically iconic and. And was perfectly planned BY GOD FOR THE CHRIST TO BECOME GOD AND IS GOD. Judas and the other 11 apostles were childhood friends they all grew up together

“Who was Jesus? : Conspiracy in Jerusalem “, Kamal Salibi,1988 has the lost gospel of Waraqah Ibn Nawfal ( about an Issa)400 BCE in western Arabia . Paul goes to Arabia to get the special parchments- above?- to learn about Peter and James “ Jesus “. The latter 3 all came from Arabia to Palestine.

@Hananiah70

Жыл бұрын

False

@davidrandell2224

Жыл бұрын

@@Hananiah70 Speed reader or just prescient? Unless you are claiming omniscience. Do tell/elaborate.

Yea , there is no dove in that picture,,, the Holy Spirit, a man sized , cloud like figure decended like a dove would decend ,,,, floating down and went into Jesus 😮

Lose tribe means Lost custom Lost the name of God's Ancient times to this time

Paul was indeed a hypocrite and an extreme madman when it came to understanding the whole Truth. He believed that, ''Even though we live, we are crucified with Christ" but when faced with his execution by beheading or crucifixion he chose to identify with being a Roman citizen instead of an Israelite and chose to be beheaded rather than crucified like Christ. This is extreme hypocrisy as well as cleverness!

And I have to say that is the dumbest thing to say a trinitarian Christian is monotheistic, the biblical text tells you clearly in passages like Isaiah 9:6 the Christ is the Everlasting father the Mighty God. Isaiah 66 7 and following tells you the only begotten son is a corporate body which consists of the remnant of the nation of Israel who would be called back at the coming of the Christ 2,000 years ago,. In Galatians 4:26 Paul States clearly they are the corporate body born from Christ's marriage to Holy Jerusalem which represents the old Covenant people which was fulfilled in Matthew 27:52 the death burial and Resurrection.. In Galatians 4:27 Paul refers you back to Isaiah 54 Christ's marriage being fulfilled prophecy, I added this because most people will claim they today as a church or a bride, they're all guilty of replacement theology

I just wanted everyone reading this comment to know Jesus was Jewish. Just wanted everyone to know that. Have a merry Christmas.

@nosuchthing8

7 ай бұрын

Thanks. We all know that.

@maj27

6 ай бұрын

Yeah and a man

@marymagnuson5191

5 ай бұрын

Really glad I am not Jewish. No Hebrew blood lines.

Thorn in side God has two sons

@willempasterkamp862

Жыл бұрын

EL the dragon had two horns

Wheres your evidence that the Ebionites did not think of Jesus as Divine this rumor comes from an antagonistic source from Rome also they did believe in the Resurrection they wrote that Jesus appeared to James

3714, devil is spelled devel

@thomzwiefler6305

Жыл бұрын

The devel is in the details

@nosuchthing8

Жыл бұрын

@@thomzwiefler6305 I was waiting for that....👍

@Vivgirl

Жыл бұрын

(Past tense) Lived backwards is devil

@nosuchthing8

2 ай бұрын

​@Vivgirl and God backwards is dog

I personally believe that the original Jewish Christianity comes the closest to being the faith of Jesus and his disciples - - and that so-called "Pauline Christianity" (the basis of Catholic and Protestant faiths) is at best heretical, and at worst, an abomination.

@chapo148

8 ай бұрын

Christendom is too busy living by church traditions. Majority of christians do not even know they live by the grace of the roman catholic church who decided which books would be included in the bible and which ones were left out deliberately

@Marc-yh1rd

7 ай бұрын

You would be wrong. You just want to believe whatever lets you stay in your sin.

@robinstevenson6690

7 ай бұрын

That's a very intolerant and non-Christian thing to say, IMO. Pauline Christianity is only one of the ways to interpret Christ's message to humanity.

@chapo148

7 ай бұрын

@@Marc-yh1rd no I think he is right. Christianity lives in sin because it adopts and sticks with church traditions in stead of biblical traditions. Pauline christianity has never existed. Paul was the closest to Massiah and put him first in all his teachings. Christianity is twisting the word

@nosuchthing8

7 ай бұрын

​@@Marc-yh1rdwhere did THAT come from

Rabbi Yeshua Bar Yosef was Ascended Master a Angel 😇 he made the TWO ONE he was a level 9-10 being perfect or 10 the stuff HE did wasn't miracles it was this magical thing called Energy ...

in order to tell you the secret, I have to explain this first... when JESUS traveled, he always traveled to the same place a different time, and the apostles had different APOSTOLIC positioning and annointments for each trip. When JESUS went to Mt. Hermon it was 6 days his first trip which he revealed 6 fallen angels names and how to recognize it call it up and cast it out so he then traveled 6 days his 2nd trip naming 6 fallen angels and 8 days his 3rd trip revealing 8 fallen agels names and he on each of these trips taught and explosed 200 total fallen angel demons high principalitie law , which each day he was there he named a fallen angel by name he in the story teaches the way to kill 200 fallen angels anywhere they may manifest. So we have a hidden message by JESUS in the order he gave the names of the 20 fallen angels names and the meaning behind their name in order JESUS gave its a 10 percent message of the 200 angels it's 10 percent that were names in order.... I'm sending it next messagethis is the hidden message of the 20 fallen angels named by JESUS in order on his 3 trips which people call it a contradiction story not realizing there different stories of different trips made the same way same people most times but different APOSTOLIC positioning and titles and anointing. Fallen angels names and orgins of meaning. 1.) Simijagga means = cognitional 2.) Simyazazz = thinking 3.) Ericiiba = that which will 4.) Rameal = begin 5.) Cocabiel = the process 6.) Tamiel = reversing 7.) Rahmel = design 8.) Daniel = from GOD 9.) Ezequel = to be reordered 10.) Baraquiel = new design 11.) Asseiel = pathogen 12.) Aramoss = protein 13.) Batteriel = beginning 14.) Zakaeil = kingdom 15.) Esekiel = new government 16.) Samsapiel = back to heaven 17.) Setareil = to rule 18.) Tureiel = humanity 19.) Jonjaiel = reset 20.) Seriel = deception So it's there but listen to it when you read it JESUS says... cognitional thinking that which will begin the process reversing design from GOD to be reordered new design pathogen protein beginning new government back to heaven to rule humanity reset deception... that's the message isn't that something awesome... So this is the master plan of satan