Jermaine Dupri, DaBrat & More Debate Atlanta Hip Hop With Big Tigger | Rap City Beyond The Basement
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From Outkast to Future, Atlanta rap has impacted hip hop culture. Have we given enough credit to the city for its impact? JD, Dallas Austin, Shanti Das, DaBrat, Jadakiss & JaeWon sit down to discuss
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It’s INSANE how accessible Jermaine Dupri makes himself. The man is on the level of Dr Dre, Puffy, Jay-Z and beyond, but is EVERYWHERE! This man moves around like he’s just a regular cat tryna to get out on… Respect to the legend JD! ✊🏾
@johnidoko7358
8 ай бұрын
Humility is the word.
@richardmiddleton7539
7 ай бұрын
Puffy ? 😂 keep that guy's name out of HERE .
ATL. Give them their respect. They helped pave the way in building generation of hip hop business ownership. Music isn't just art, it's also a business way of life as well. Dallas Austin and JD doesn't get enough credit like they should.
@kevinpettiford6950
8 ай бұрын
Affirmative
I love Jermaine Dupri, he’s so magical, youthful wise, creative, talented teacher, and a genius also underrated work speaks for itself and he’s rare!
@JayzoTheNextKobeBryant
9 ай бұрын
Same Here
@PaulSmith-vo3ge
9 ай бұрын
Facts
@Matrl343
8 ай бұрын
Snakeyes
@Matrl343
8 ай бұрын
Whats a 3rd coast,pacific or atlantic,guld of canada
@Matrl343
8 ай бұрын
Mediarranium style is no good
Jermaine and Dallas are both the forefathers of Atlanta's sound.💯
I’m an Old ATLien that graduated from High School with DJ Toomp and Raheem was a Senior when we were Freshmen at Therrell, long story short when Toomp was DJing at Jellybeans and making mixed tapes, we talked about the South will soon be heard! When Toomp and Raheem made the Song “Raheem The Dream”, I knew Toomp career was about to blow up and it did! Salute to all “Old ATliens! By the way that Atlanta Music Pop Up/Museum needs to be in the Atlanta Airport Atrium, it’s the truth and well put together! 💿💯🏆
Atl has been carrying the music industry on their back for decades ! 🔥💜 been saying this for years .
Atlanta deserves ALL the props, from the early 90s to now. The city been entertaining the world, but I think currently there's too much gentrification and too much of a housing and affordability issue for rap/hip hop. The city was at it's best creatively when it was flooded with housing projects and nearly all black. The city is undergoing and evolution right now.
@327Jhigh
8 ай бұрын
Sad reality but it’s true 💯
@327Jhigh
8 ай бұрын
That was true in New York also. Hip Hop was at it’sbest when New York was suffering from urban decay. Not saying that it still isn’t but it was certainly at it’s lowest point in the ‘70s and ‘80s when Hip Hop was created at the height of the crack era
@tamikad3535
8 ай бұрын
@@327Jhigh true, and so unfortunate in a way. Its like beauty comes from the struggle at times.
Brat is still so underrated it’s ridiculous, but she’s always gonna be fly, sexy and talented so she’s gonna always be rich she’s rich at her she’s pure. I love Da Brat ❤
I thoroughly enjoy this segment and seeing all of you together to talk about the Hip Hop culture of today. Coming from an era of Run DMC LL Cool J GrandMaster Flash Whoodini Eric B & Rakim EPMD MC Shan DJ Quick and the list goes on. The Rap culture in my opinion has drastically changed because of the young artist intercepting and integrating a new sound. We need to embrace and nurture this sound but at the same time we need to coach them and train them while not stepping on their toes and allowing them room to grow into Hip Hop. Whether you're from the West Coast, East Coast, South Coast or from the Mid West Hip Hop is here to stay and there is enough room for everyone. Thank all of you for your gifts and talents in making and keeping Hip Hop alive to this very day!!
Dallas Austin never ages just like his son's mother Chili and they're about to be grandparents
@Karl671
9 ай бұрын
FACTS
@ricflairWoooo
9 ай бұрын
Big facts
@IamLivingTheTruth
9 ай бұрын
That's the only thing he's really famous for really😅
@suigeneris886
8 ай бұрын
@@IamLivingTheTruth stop it, Dallas Austin gave us Monica, Sammy, was TLC's MAIN producer. That man is a legend
@IamLivingTheTruth
8 ай бұрын
@suigeneris886 that's inaccurate sir. Crystal Jones started the group, the original founder and concept creator. LA Ried, Babyface, and Pebbles developed them. Dallas was ru ning around with Another Bad Creation as an unofficial member going by the name General Austin at that time. I will correct myself and agree he is credited for writing and producing, but a lot of times, credit is not always given to ALL the people who are involved. If the industry wants to MAKE a name for someone they favor, they get the credit as if they were they are the masterminds. Where are the hits now, tho? Atlanta has several people who are trying to write their role into history to make it seem as if they were that instrumental to the Atlanta music boom, we call them Revisonists. Dallas is one of many. Media is the manipulator of the masses.
When you love the craft you'll respect history. Good stuff! @ 24:11
JD, Outkast, Goodie Mob, T.I, Ludacris, Usher, Xscape, Monica, Jeezy, Gucci Mane, Lil Jon, Ying Yang twins, 2chainz, and Pastor Troy are the biggest artists that took ATL to a whole other level in the game for hip hop...that kind of music and sound really changed the game....
This was a great discussion with the Atl and NYC OG's. I got Atlanta as my 3rd greatest hip hop city of all time. NY is number 1 and LA as number 2. Atlanta has two of the highest selling hip hop and R&B acts of all time in TLC & Outkast
I'm from Brooklyn but let's get it straight hip hop in its cultural form doesn't have a home New York may have been the first place to put it on display for the world but hip-hop is in US so no matter where you're from in this country or in this world you have been had hip-hop in your life before New York shine a light on what it is to be hip-hop let's not forget hip hop means knowledge movement
Dallas Austin and Jermaine dupri will always be part of hip hop especially in Atlanta Georgia
Why do regions outside of New York always seem to be seeking validation from other regions. Hip Hop is universal. Whoever has a place,, has a place. Hip hop is the only genre that argues and bickers over trivial matters. Everyone make your contributions and rock out, it’s a place for everybody.
@dawb86
8 ай бұрын
When you do something great and feel like you get shitted on just because of where you're from, you feel a kind of way. Not just from peers in your culture either. When the critics start trying to ACT like they know what they're talking about, all of a sudden they're mentioning as many 80s/90s rap acts from NY as possible and excluding a bunch of the west/south performers....
Dallas Austin, one of one. Period.
Love this sit-down 💯 big salute 👑👑👑👑👑👑👑
All those legends there right now have great work ethics‼️❗️‼️❗️‼️❗️
Dallas Austin is one of the best music Producers of ALL TIME period!! His work is KRAZY beside JD, salute music icons
I love when I get off the plane in ATL is so soothing to my soul! All it says to me is I’m home!❤❤
Stellar. Ps Peace to Kris Kross. Peace to The Dungeon Fam. Peace to Debra Killings. Peace to Tim and Bob. Peace to DJ Toomp. Pps That first and second Brat albums are classics to me. When The Money Goes by Jay-Z prod by Jermaine Dupri is amazing.
Fantastic video.
Big Facts!!!! Usher earned THAT !
I feel like the new generation don’t show the older generations that respect that they deserve because if it wasn’t for them it wouldn’t be this new generation of hip hop kinda sound the same in a way in my opinion
@jman1562001
8 ай бұрын
Social media made the sound accessible everywhere which kind of killed the regionalism. I think the respect in part ain't there because they have few to reference points to certain older artist. Everyone knows jay z because he broadened his brand outside of just music and stayed consistent during the height of hiphop popularity. Same with 50 or Snoop which is why respect 🙏 is afforded to them. Artist before them ain't make records or were relevant so their are gaps for young folks as far as certain artist. If you don't live with certain records or seek to expose yourself to older music, how can you even come to appreciate it????
Love this interview 🔥🔥🔥
@malikaarnsby8035
4 ай бұрын
See J.D. and his family and expertise and his vision yeah he da poppa!! BUT DA BRAT, IN ALL THE MIDDLE WEST!! ARTIST N LEGACIES! YES ITS DISRESPECTFUL THAT ATLANTA WASN'T TAUGHT TO US!! HERE ON DA WEST COAST UN COMMERCIALIZED
@malikaarnsby8035
4 ай бұрын
ATLANTA IZZZ HIPHOP, WELCOME TO ATL!! ST LOUIS LA NYC, Dirty dirty South!!
Every emcee was young when they dropped. LL was 16 on DEF JAM.
@chimezie7
8 ай бұрын
Was coming in to say this 😂. It’s actually easier to count the rappers who weren’t young when they started lol
Phenomenal discussion panel. Flowers to the A (my new home). Big thanks to Tigger who also needs his flowers.
🔥🔥interview
Memphis deserves it's props too it's hard to pop out my city so if you do it's a blessing plus we contribute a lot to the game music and culture as a whole
I like those type of challenges
So So Def Baby❤🔥
kiss is really timeless
Blessings
BEST INTERVIEW EVER!
Hold on. Respectfully. Mariah Carey. Got her style that she uses now from Krayzie Bone. She said it herself
For those who don't know. Shanti was there when Dre said the south got something to say. Before and after
Hip hop is growing international!!
It wouldn't be no Atlanta hip hop without kilo ali Raheem the dream mojo mc shy d ghetto Mafia Jim crow p.a. Jermaine dupri attic crew dungeon family
All facts!!! ❤
Life In 1472 and Instructions my favorite body of work during So So Def Era 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Life is not too short,you know why,i had 3 from bay city,and still have it
When the bratt came out,i was in the back
I wonder why Jermaine Dupri never mention Javier & the Str8jackers project when he mention his early production! I STILL bump that album!
Da Brat thanks again for putting me on artist boot camp
💯💯💯
We need a similar convo with Greg Street or Ryan Cameron.
The next 25 is going to be about the youth the younger people but then the next 25 after that is gonna be a 360 moment because it always be become a 360 moment with our people, with hip-hop and Black people. it’s always going to start where it ended and end where it started from!
I think they shoulda had a younger generation of Atlanta on this also to have both views on here
Love my city❤
Where did get the crunk sound from 🤔
Life is not too short
We used to have Atlanta bass, Miami bass, new York lyrical rap, west Coast gfunk and gangsta, the dmv had gogo, Texas chopped and screwed, Memphis and Chicago underground plus there was new jack swing, & real r&b if you liked that..damn where all the cultureful vibes go
They were the Atlanta industry in the 90s and 2000s.
If jermaine invite me to his studio,i need to come back home with a bag,lol
And make sure that the beat happens every second
Atlanta have good artist,its good artist everywhere
They tried to put me in an orchestra,my soul aint going no where
Hip hop was here before the 70's
I did gregg street
That's right I forgot Cameo is from Atlanta
@gregorygriffin6341
9 ай бұрын
FACT CHECK: Cameo is originally from NY. They relocated to record in ATL in 1983 after starting their own label ATLANTA ARTISTS. Aside from the fact the band had a huge fanbase there.
💯
My bratt was a church girl,the bible teaches you not to mock anybody,to all the Queens from down south
Let’s not forget, before ATL. It was Miami who put the south on the hip hop map
@GEVINCHYGAMEZ
8 ай бұрын
Nah bro...Miami is nowhere near Atlanta hip hop
You put them m&m's candy on sony,lol
Atlanta has taken over hip hop and rap too long not to create their own platform to tell their history.
@markjones5757
8 ай бұрын
Hip hop and rap? That's the same exact thing.
@dawb86
8 ай бұрын
@@markjones5757 No it's not. Hip hop is the overall culture. Rapping is one aspect of it. The rap game is the commercialized/industrialized version of that aspect. That's the reason people say all the time half these big "artists" aren't even the best rappers out. We shouldn't have to explain to anyone that Lil Baby/DaBaby aren't in the class of MC that Cole/Lupe Fiasco are....
@markjones5757
8 ай бұрын
@dawb86 Nobody break dances and does graffiti anymore...which were the only other parts of hip-hop. Hip-hop is predominantly RAP music in current times point blank period...anybody that says otherwise just simply don't know what they are talking about. As for that nonsense that you mentioned about Lupe and lil baby...that's nothing more than your little opinion.
@GEVINCHYGAMEZ
8 ай бұрын
We took it over for 25 yrs... Keep up...
@tiffxyz2532
8 ай бұрын
@@GEVINCHYGAMEZ Since Atlanta had took over 25 years, why are the people in the video saying the history of rap Atlanta isn't being told? It's Atlanta's job to get their history of rap out there.
My cousin is a retired piolot from the airforce,memphis and michigan,still dont know about being drafted
18:12 😮get ready Yo that’s why Jay Z won’t never give Two Chainz a feature
My pops already told me it wasnt going to be a goodyear blimp in the 2000,'s its met life for now
Hiphop is from your soul
I samples all instruments before i made on flatline
Just because the other two were capable or have the qualities or can’t get the job done or understand, the assignment does not mean that they automatically earned that position usher earned that position he earned that because it’s overdue and he earned it because he needed it and he earned it is his!!!
Big Tigger!!!!! Please, get Buju Banton and the Elephant Man back in the booth!!!!! Please!!!
And ATL is still a country city. Country is not a negative connotative word when you are country. Aint nothing big city bout that place but the train
Sections damnn right regions
My aye is crazy
When you know a producer,you could be one too
Usher was born in Dallas Texas!
Wolfman Jack popped up on me in the 90,'s from chicago,you know wht i told him,dont cross that bridge,lol
You no why i dont keep files ,what sharps a knife,lol
I messed the 3 bridges up,lol
Speaking of Usher for the Superbowl, I see Chris Brown coming next 👀 🤔 My prediction 👀
Which one is the best for your flowerbed,bark or pineneedles,let me know what color rose you might get out of your vines
I got some respect for JD. The south has always held a special place in hip hop for me
I’ve been saying same thing about Chicago rap ppl forget about old school Chicago rappers u tell someone name 5 dope Chicago rappers they don’t name twista , brat , Kanye, do or die they name durk, herb , von the young Chicago rappers
@jman1562001
8 ай бұрын
Lack of reference points and the timeframe leaves gaps for people. If you ain't make a record in 3 to 4 yrs, things change and move quick in hiphop.
Florida, texas, louisianna... come one JD... Atlanta is not the only southern city making stars and millionaires
I have to take my time to make a split decision
AMEN!!! WE ALL ON ATLANTA!! FAMILY IM FROM SOUTH CENTRAL L.A.!! CANT SPELL DA WEST WITHOUT THA E AND THA S!!
I cant never have a moment of silence,pump up the volume,im talking about encylepediers,not dictionaries,how bout that,,,lol
Whats the difference between a hook and a flatline
I think most rappers start young.. also entertainers
There’s something to be heard from watching they have to want to respect us in order for the older people to come out to be respected enough to want to give the game show you the game give me permission to be in the game it can’t just be younger, excepting the older generation they have to Give the respect for the other people who want to leave them and trust them with the game
I want to know why everyone from atlanta wants to move to spring tx. When they come out here,forreall
I love Atlanta and they do deserve alot of credit they get. Butt Atlanta needs to stop tryna take all the credit for the south. Acting like Memphis didn't play a big part in the south, Texas, Louisiana, Florida
Why you think the tuba is next to the drums
You know what i told cluest from atlanta,if you mess with my marsmellow fron chi-town,wolfies
Jermaine is a hip and Rnb legend non debatable !!!
I think they should’ve had another female rapper because wasn’t Da Brat born and raised in Chicago So does she really qualify as a artist from Atlanta? Or should they have had a music artist who is in the Hiphop industry that was born and raised in Atlanta. ? I think that would’ve made more sense
@vontesantos5981
9 ай бұрын
@DJMagicJay if that's the case Jeezy Gucci 21 savage Ludacris Soulja boy big boi bow wow rasheeda Shawnna latto drama Yachty DJ drama zaytoven metro boomin waka Flocka flame all put on 4 Atl but all are from different states & cities even usher & Ciara wasn't born there but raised there
@DjMagicJay
9 ай бұрын
@@vontesantos5981 But that’s totally different being born in another place and raised in the next is totally different. But if you was born and partly raised in one place like Da Brat did and then she moved herself to Atlanta. I love her I don’t live there that doesn’t mean she’s from there. That means even though she knows where she comes from. 21 Savage was born in the UK that’s where I’m from East London and his mum move to America when he was about 10 or 11 I just remember he still knows he’s 11 years when he was in London, but his teenage adult life was in America
@dawb86
8 ай бұрын
@@DjMagicJay DJ Premier was born AND raised in Texas until his teenage years. NY will NEVER let him claim anything but NY because they love him lol. It ain't where you're from, it's where you're at...
@DjMagicJay
8 ай бұрын
@@dawb86 Just like DOC of Ruthless Records and Death Row Records he helped write and make a lot of the hits for them
@dawb86
8 ай бұрын
@@DjMagicJay Yeah but D.O.C. never claimed the West, people just assumed he was from Cali cause he was down with N.W.A./Ruthless.
You forgot about okeefe
Jermaine Dupri makes me wanna clear my throat