Kai Hahto in his youth has lived in New York and been taught by some of the top Professional Jazz Drummers in USA and he played on multiple jazz bands and wedding bands while staying in there. So he is originally a Jazz focused Drummer who tried multiple other Genres and found Metal (like Wintersun and nowadays Symphonic Metal band called Nightwish) as his favourite, but uses those Jazz and other Genres drumming techniques in his playing all the time.

First time watching Kai in a Wintersun song. Now I realise why people keep calling his drumwork in Nightwish a lazy vacation in comparision...😀

@JasperSchwinghammer

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah I hope that these skills we be used on their upcoming album a bit more

@warem7018

4 жыл бұрын

It's not a vacation at all. It's not about how fast you can do singles. With Nightwish he's playing to a backing track the entire time. Any mistake is gonna be noticeable.

@BW_Drums

4 жыл бұрын

@@warem7018 Wintersun have at least as many backing tracks as Nightwish do in a live setting.

@juanrodm6406

4 жыл бұрын

WAREM you dont know Jari if you think he lets Kai makes mistakes playing the drums.

@janitor6669

4 жыл бұрын

@@JasperSchwinghammer They will. Trust me ;)

Kai played jazz at some point and has also trained with masters of various genres. He's more than just a metal drummer.

@JHX1

4 жыл бұрын

Yes indeed, played jazz and Bigband before metal.

@tommikarsikas1320

4 жыл бұрын

@@JHX1 Not before metal, while metal. He got into drums as a child and got his first kit at the age of six. The metal thing really started because of 'Iron Maiden - Killers' album given to him by his grandmother when he was 8 years old. He has always been very versatile in his playing, even as a child he played quite an array of genres. Yes, Big Band, Jazz, and Dixieland are genres that he has played in bands, but he has also played Finnish folk music, pop, you name it, he loves to play drums period.

@JHX1

4 жыл бұрын

@@tommikarsikas1320 thanks for the (much) info, I basically meant he also played jazz before he was famous in metal.

@Gibbetoo

4 жыл бұрын

tell me if i am wrong, but he is left handed?

@tommikarsikas1320

4 жыл бұрын

@@Gibbetoo Yes, he is left handed.

U should really check this song out live at Sonic pump studios, epic song

@Vampfy

4 жыл бұрын

LaPulga it’d be a good follow up! Edit: he did!

Listening to Wintersun without the rest of the music is a crime! You were spot on that all the cymbal flourishes were meant to accent the music, Kai really spoke at lenghts how hard it was to construct some of the lines around those tunes.

That groove after 3:25 is basically responsible for me falling in love with this band.

Yep, you should check the "live @ sonic pump studios" version.. better sound quality, and all players are worth to see 👌🤘

That’s KAI HAHTO!! The MAN

I was there back in 2012 and will always remember the feeling...what a night...Time I was released.

Kai is such a hero. Actually plays jazz aswell.

12:10 yes, thank you. I'm glad someone else recognizes the weirdly satisfying cadence of a human blast beat.

Oh yeah, context is super important. Those accents actually play a massive role in his style. He's so good, I don't even know where to start.

He mentioned in an interview that jazz is his favorite style to play.

@Nate-wn2ef

3 жыл бұрын

he comes from jazz

This song is a true masterpiece. You should see the live rehearsal video

Kai Hahto is a great guy and one of the better drummers in metal I know. Great vid :)

Yep. He's really good.

The guy from Crash Test Dummies.....bmjöööömhmh! Brilliant!

First time I stumble upon your videos, and I love how technical you get! I don't even play drums, but they are usually the first instrument that I pay attention to when listening to something as complex as this :D

They have a live rehearsal recording of this at sonic pump studios. Incredible song.

I just love these vids/your comments.. When someone who actually knows what there are happening and can explain it to completely noob like me when it comes to playing - i know that they are talented and that it sounds so good, but to hear your comments here and there in the meantime, its just very entertaining to watch. Thanks man! Keep doing what you do if you can, i know ill watch!

Really great reaction! I would like to suggest you to react Wintersun - Time live rehearsal at Sonic Pump studio. There you hear whole band. Also Sons of Winter and Stars are played in the same studio. Please and peace 🙏😎✌️

Im wintersun fan since 2008 and he is still me favourite Drummer.

best drummer ever

Quite a shame you didn't get to hear the guitars and vocals. Wintersun are very impressive from all points of view.

"Doesnt even look like he is really working that hard" trust me, based on those few live recording videos out there he is probably sweating buckets.. its a workout, this song lol. You'd actually have to be a god to not be in pain at some points during it.

@garrettmillerdrums

4 жыл бұрын

He makes it look easy. I'd need oxygen afterward

Check out Darkside from Mgla playing Exercises in Futility V drum cam from Brutal Assault festival this year!

Swing in metal is a really interesting thing. As a guitarist, playing against blasts you're generally counting in 4s or maybe 8s, so a slight move makes a lot of difference. In shit I've played/written I'm slightly behind the beat while playing fast. You get the combination of playing really fucking fast but having a chilling vibe at the same time.

MORGAN AGREN from the Mats Morgan Band. Enough said. Seriously one of the best drummers of our time. Hes just on another league. Any style he plays he brings complete originality too.

Kai Hahto - Obey is one of my favorite drum videos of all time.

@Blackerer

4 жыл бұрын

ALL of his work with Rotten Sound is absolutely amazing. And groovy af. Just going through the Murderworks is fantastic.

Never heard of this band, but I am definitely checking them out now. Loved hearing your thoughts on this. I'm not a drummer but I love learning about the techniques and some of the theory behind this stuff.

@juanrodm6406

4 жыл бұрын

Dkdevilkid if you love about techniques, you mist check out the videos of Teeemu Mantysaari (the second guitarist of the band) for Troy Grady. Put Winter Madness solo on YT. In another video he plays arpeggios and other stuff. The interview is mind blowing.

@rickgreenhalgh1357

4 жыл бұрын

I really like wintersun, there's some harsh vocals that not everyone likes but if you can live with that then theres noone else quite like them

You should watch Nightwish “Ghost Love Score” official live at Wacken 2013. Their drummer is awesome. It’s a long song but worth the epic journey.

Man i respect u so much. All the stuff u do is so real and fun, so i'm just gonna say this:all the love from finland man!

@PapaRandals

4 жыл бұрын

I´ll be following u man

"He just gotta change his socks" - refers to himself reacting to Tomas Haake playing "Bleed" when it looked like Tomas had changed his socks and he was joking that the socks were probably worn out already half way the song. Hilarious dude!

HOLY CRAP, you went to school with Danny Walker? I've seen him live numerous times. Dude's a beast.

Archspire - Remote Tumour Seeker [Live in Montreal]

Reason why Wintersun´s music sounds like " midevil " is that it´s music genre is power metalfolk, metal neoclassical, metalmelodic death metal and black metal. In 1997, Mäenpää served in the Finnish military as part of his national defense duty, during which he contracted tuberculosis. The diagnosis was late, and Mäenpää required surgery to remove part of his lung, hospitalizing him for months. The song "Beautiful Death" would later be inspired by this event. Dispite of that, he can sing pretty good.

Just found out he was in a grindcore band before. Now it makes sense

Fuck yessss. I love wintersun

The live video of Obey by Rotten Sound is my favorite Hahto video. Relatively OK sound for a live cam too.

So many guys I've seen can't blast like that with their left(right handed drummers) they use the right on snare/and the left on the cymbal but that screws everything up when they go into a fill because the lead hand is wrong. Imposters! THIS is how blasting is done. Also check out Dirk Verbeuren

@vernonpurdue928

4 жыл бұрын

Dirks the man!

Danny Carey of Tool doing Rosetta Stoned is incredible to watch, too

Kai Hato is now the drummer for Nightwish.

Little bit more relaxed here brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

Great react video, great band and great drummer! Couldn't find you reacting to Mgła - Exercises in Futility V -drumcam. Really recommend it if you want to see more metal drumming!

Ooh, got one for you, cattle decapitation, mammals in babylon, full band play through

Kai is a machine, he plays now drums for Nightwish.

Best eyebrows on KZread. Wish mine were half that thick.

Danny Walker have actually mentioned Kai Hahto to be one of his favourite drummers. This was in some drummer magazine over ten years ago.

A whole city's electricity can be supplied by one Kai Hahto. True story.

danny walker has played in some of my favorite bands like phobia, uphill battle, etc.

You went to school with Danny Walker?! Intronaut/Uphill Battle Danny? I love his drumming!

Nicholas Barker from Cradle Of Filth, Dimmu Borgir etc. Absolute beast!

Airwolf! Fuck yeah!

Check out, behemoth "ov fire and the void" john rice drum cam.. absolutely incredible double bass action,

"...and Airwolf" is the new T-SHIRT!

You went to high school with Danny Walker?! Danny Walker of Intronaut?!

@bed22455

4 жыл бұрын

I came down here to comment the exact same thing!

@behindthen0thing525

4 жыл бұрын

Hello!

@ultrahero2115

4 жыл бұрын

This is amazing cause I met Danny! One of the best drummers in metal period! Fast or slow!

@behindthen0thing525

4 жыл бұрын

@@ultrahero2115 he's great

@ElectricMonkey99

4 жыл бұрын

Literally one of my favorite drummers out there rn! Hes so creative with his grooves and he plays with so much power.

The whole song: Wintersun - Sons Of Winter And Stars (TIME I Live Rehearsals At Sonic Pump Studios) kzread.info/dash/bejne/hqBpto-gnLfKiNo.html

How about Devin Townsend - Hear me! drum playthrough by 666samus? (he also recorded the album version). Unreal speed and precision!

@satriadionika7140

4 жыл бұрын

Don't compare God kai with samus

I seriously LMAOd at the Crash Test Dummies -comment. Hilarious shit dude. And Kai Hahto is a fucking proven beast. He's awesome.

You knew Danny Walker in high school? I really love his drumming!

@garrettmillerdrums

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah he was in the drumline for a week. Had the cleanest rolls of anyone in the line, even the seniors. Then he left, probably because it wasn't challenging at all and went on to do other cool stuff.

@faithisdumb666

4 жыл бұрын

@@garrettmillerdrums I am such a huge fan of his,I wish he was still in Intronaut.

You are totally right. As the viewer it's nice to have context too. Would prefer playthrough videos over live ones.

Shuffle sounding!

Kai Hahto is a legit professional jazz drummer if I'm not completely wrong. Been following him since rotten sound days, I find it funny how is getting the nightwish pension now :P

THis is so sad. This song is so epic and the drums are epic in correlation with the music and the other instruments. You should definately listen to the song.

@henrywalton5967

4 жыл бұрын

The sonic pump videos would be perfect, they show a fair bit of drums too

Bit stoned now, but totally get that swing example you were giving about punk and this kind of metal.

And now he is drumming for Nightwish ;)

Kai has also history of playing jazz

i've only seen a couple of videos of yours so far , and i like the colourful language you seem to use to explain what's happening to normies like me

@garrettmillerdrums

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, I'm a bit of a potty mouth.

Please do a Video about the swing in matal and fast punkrock! Very interessted!

Byzance is actually a series of Meinl 😉

Kai hato used to play in a band called rotten sound. There's some drum footage on KZread around, that playing is even crazier

Kai Hahto is also the drummer in Nightwish

lol...Eyes light up at 3:07 CHIIINAAA!

Dude, you should really check out the full song, live at sonic pump studios :)

Kai Hahto has played some jazz as some people have mentioned he has even played with Jonas Hellborg

Hail murder by dark funeral. Best drummer in metal

Eloy Casagrande - Desperate Cry,it's a good one.

he should react to winter madness, thats straight 7 minutes of blast beats

Kai haito is also an excellent jazz drummer. Hes one of my favourites. Please react to gavin harrison sound of muzak. Probably.more up your street but the version at modern drummer announced by simon Phillip's. Nothing to not like :)

one metal drummer said something along the lines of making easy things sound more complicated than they are or just speeding them up... meaning that you have one beat going through, like the kicks here and you lay patterns and syncopations on top of them, like cymbals here. another drummer who does this is darkside from mgla check his cymbal game out, took me by surprise: kzread.info/dash/bejne/foCD2M1pfNrbd84.html metal is a very straightforward kind of music usually and almost requires nothing else outside 2/4 or 4/4 or sometimes 3/4 for the triplet feel, although a lot of modern bands start to incorporate more off-feeling signatures (5/4, 7/8 and the likes) or just play in a way that makes them sound like it, even when they are still 4/4. my point being: if it serves the song, nothing has to be overly complicated. the role of drums in metal is that of the time giver, so quite different from jazz where you can break out into a solo or the drummer responds actually to the band being the sort of "red line" throughout the song.

Now you should check the actual song. Epic song

Kenneth Shaulk of Candiria

Kai Hahto is so good! Nightwish nowadays btw :D

Ken Schalk and Candiria, especially Constant Velocity..., and I would love if you did some Deathspell Omega.

@ThrashJazzAssassin77

4 жыл бұрын

Ken, the Four Piece Beast

Kai is FINLANDS BEST DRUMMER!

Yeah, this is pretty tidious to watch and listen. Try out the Sonic Bump Studio -version.

You should check out the drummer of Cattle Decapitaion. He is an AK-47. This song reminds me of Blind Guardian. Super epic and huge.

you should check out the drum only video from Archspire. He plays on 350bpm ;) its amazing to look at him

Kai Hahto!

Please do David Gray of Akercocke! Either He is Risen or Valley of the Crucified !

One can program anything. But... to have enough knowledge to program it is entire another matter, which even to a drummer is black magic that they don't fully understand. And so, YOU can't program everything is true, but one can program anything is also true.

Check out baard kolstad's Illuminate!

You went to HS with Danny Walker?

@janihaavisto79

3 жыл бұрын

As you probably know already Kai used to be big Jazz guy before coming to metal genre. He is our Sen-sei. Or As many call he's foot work so accurate that he gotten human metronome adjective to he's name.

A fun fact: Kai is left-handed.

Kai Hahto plays some jazz... Kai Hahto-Some Jazzy stuff - KZread

Wintersun - mmm mmm mmm mmm

Please go check this young Indonesian drummer, Ray Prasetya. His drumming is really great for his age. Type down "Yamaha Music Experience - Splashing Water | Ray Prasetya Drum Cam | at SMEX 2019 ."

Is this the fastest growing KZread channel?? 4000 more subscribers in the past 2 days... 😳

@ShredST

4 жыл бұрын

Rock/metal fans always need that validation from other people.

WHAT DANNY WALKER BRO BRO RBOOOOOO BROOOOO ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT THE DRUMMER OF VALE OF PNATH

Kai played for Rotten Sound.