January 2024 - Advaita Vedanta and the Hard Problem of Consciousness - Swami Sarvapriyananda
#advaita #vedanta #sarvapriyananda
Swami Sarvapriyananda reflects on the five great unsolved questions in philosophy published by Oxford University Press, noting that the first four are directly related to consciousness. He emphasizes the centrality of consciousness to the three main branches of philosophy: metaphysics (what is real), epistemology (how do you know anything), and axiology (values and the purpose of life). From the Advaita Vedanta perspective, Swami Sarvapriyananda asserts that Brahman (existence), Chaitanya (consciousness), and Ananda (bliss) provide a unified answer to these questions.
The discussion then delves into the recent surge in interest in consciousness studies, attributed to advancements in imaging technology, artificial intelligence, and developments in information sciences. Swami Sarvapriyananda introduces the hard problem of consciousness, emphasizing the explanatory gap between brain activity and subjective experience.
Drawing on his experience at Harvard Divinity School and discussions with philosophers, Swami Sarvapriyananda suggests that the philosophy of mind has reached a point of stagnation. He recounts a bet between David Chalmers and Christoph Koch, where Koch predicted the imminent reduction of consciousness to brain activity within 25 years. However, upon reflection, Koch admits to no progress in solving the hard problem.
Swami Sarvapriyananda explores the limitations of AI, noting its success in tasks such as creating art and generating content but highlighting its inability to possess consciousness. He questions why AI cannot be made conscious and argues that consciousness is fundamentally different from other cognitive functions.
The talk concludes with a reference to Gallen Strausen's perspective on the hard problem of matter and consciousness. Evan Thompson's acknowledgment of the Upanishads as the origins of consciousness studies in Indian philosophy is highlighted, setting the stage for a deeper exploration of the Indian perspective on consciousness in the subsequent part of the discussion.
** Title **
Reality and Reality+ : Advaita Vedanta and the Hard Problem of Consciousness by Swami Sarvapriyananda
** Filmed **
Ramakrishna Mission Institute of Culture Golpark
Seminar on "The Re-Emergence of Spirituality in 21st Century Philosophy" held from 2nd to 4th January 2024.
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@estergaleotenadal5870
4 ай бұрын
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@renup2861
4 ай бұрын
Jai Maa 🙏
@michaeldillon3113
4 ай бұрын
God Bless you 🙏 for your commitment to not monetising the Divine ( from a ' devotee of Sri Ramana and great respecter of Swami Sarvapriyananda).🙏🕉️
@vedanshvedansh844
4 ай бұрын
There IS divinity within us all, but that is not any lord. That IS only, wthout any attributes.
@adkrella2692
4 ай бұрын
Thank you
This is one of the most profound speeches I’ve ever heard. Swami Sarvapriyananda you are a gift.
AI, philosophers, chat GPT, David Chalmers and the hard problem of consciousness, the brain itself - all are appearances within consciousness. It's as simple as that. EVERYTHING, forever and always, is an appearance within consciousness
@thyagarajant.r.3256
3 ай бұрын
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Swami Sarvapriyananda ji is such a blessing to the Western world! His wisdom , his sensitivity and convivial ity is such a boon for the propagation of vedanta in the west.! How wonderful for him to follow in the steps of Swami Turiyananda, the first president of RKM in the West and in New York.
Spellbound by your soaring intellect swamiji. Your words came to me at a time when I had become desperate with weird and strange experiences in my life. Your words have stabilised me. Abhaar !!!
What a formidable speech ,logic, argument,construct,..all speechless..Every sentence qualify as "quote"".
This talk of revered Swamiji is a conscious experience of consciousness.
Swamiji was truly in the flow in this brilliant exposition!!!
Swamiji just gets better and better. This is his best talk todate. Tomorrow it will be even better. His infinite mind has no limits. The Source is with and within him. God has blessed all who hear his talks.
Yes this orange guy really tackling the really really hard problem of Devid Chalmer.😊❤❤❤
After listening to the talk, I entered into turiya (तुरीय)...[Happy, happy, joy, joy.]
What a time to be alive! Swamiji ‘s talks are simply divine! ❤
Anando Brahma. Ananda is the essence of human endeavor. There's a subconscious striving to attain ananda, maybe it's written in the DNA. When you reach that level, that's Brahma... Consciousness explaining itself.
I went back to 49:39 in the video. "It's that to which all objects appear." This one line is enough. Swami Ji's lucidity is amazing.
@alisasachamuneewongse6546
2 ай бұрын
Hi
Fantastic! A much advanced discussion/explanation. We need to understand that "Consciousness" is a Devine Energy form. Cannot be measured, cannot be describe4d . Even a thousand years from now The question of What is Consciousness will still be debated. "It is Divine Energy"🙏🙏🙏🕉🕉🕉
@vedanta_philosophy
Ай бұрын
Jai Shree Ram 🙏
Conciseness cannot be explained it's is beyond the body mind only intuitively known not by mind ,as mind has to be still empty without thought concepts or ideas Conciseness just simply is as it is beyond words no words can explain the what Is, any description can only point to it but it is beyond words only via direct experience can it be intuitively known and realised by self realisation, om 🕉 namo Sri baghavate ramana maharshi om 🕉 namo Sri baghavate nisagadatta maharaj om 🕉 namo Sri baghavate pounjaji papaji om 🕉 namo Sri swami annamalai,
Amazing
So so so beautiful! Thank you swamiji and more power to you!
🙏🙏🙏🙏🙏 guruji
Unbelievable this talk sent me to a sublime experience. Thank you Swami
Thank you very much Swamiji🙏🙏🙏
These videos should be put into a podcast platform. It will be much better and easier to consume by the listeners.
@vedanta_philosophy
4 ай бұрын
Thats a very good idea. I will try to contact Vedanta NY and Vedanta California to pass your comment along 🙏
@Indiacareercentre
4 ай бұрын
@@vedanta_philosophy I can do that if I am given the permission on my channel.
This is one of many interesting speeches I've heard from the swami, also the most satisfying and as far as I can tell, he's not working from a prepared paper. Consciousness does appear to be qualitatively different from the the physical brain. Billions of electrical connections in a lump of grey matter do not give us the mechanism by which consciousness emerges. From the story he told of the two scientists who made a bet, one of them was indulging in Scientism, believing the sciences will provide an answer to all our fundamental questions about existence
Swami sounding like the absolute ruler
তুমি আমি এক। তুমি আমি সবাই চৈতন্যময়। ঠাকুর কত সহজ করে আশীর্বাদ করলেন --“ তোমাদের চৈতন্য হোক”। ঘুরে ফিরে সেই এক কথা-অখন্ড এক চৈতন্য। এমন সব বড় বড় দিকপাল মনিষীরা পারেন তা ব্যাখ্যা করে বলতে। আমরা কিছু বলতে তো পারি নাই। বুঝতেও পারি না। সম্পূর্ণ জীবন বৃথা চলে যায় বোঝার চেষ্টা করতে করতেই। প্রণাম প্রণাম প্রণাম।
I am sorry that the entire speech went on very brilliantly without mentioning the author or the fundamental and formidable logician Jagadguru Adishankara even after uttering his own concept Brahma Satyam Jagat Midhya. There is the greatest need to talk more about Adishankara than at any time before for, all the dialogue among several eminent modern scientists on the hard problem of consciousness was discussed at length in the Sankara Bhashya of Prasthana Traya where the extraordinarily brilliance of one human who is far more superior than any person at any time before or after that he could himself question himself which will not strike to the most modern genius and answer himself adequately and completely so that no doubt remains in the realm of the topic philosophy call it Advaita Vedanta and he is none other than Adi Shankara the Jagadguru.
No matter how sophisticated it may be, an idea is never the thing in itself. A highly complex idea about a bird neither sings nor flies. Therefore, knowledge is and will always be incomplete. It is impossible to measure what consciousness is. It is immeasurable and therefore infinite and timeless. There are no two infinities. Consciousness is one, and the instruments of consciousness reflect it to varying degrees. When all ideas become still, through the understanding that they are limited, there is pure consciousness, which is our true nature. Only consciousness is true happiness, because it is complete.
@vedanta_philosophy
4 ай бұрын
I wholeheartedly agree. 🙏
@MsDomminus
4 ай бұрын
@@vedanta_philosophy 🙏🏼
Namaskar Swami Sarvapriyanandaji Maharaj 🙏🏻 Thank you Vedanta Philosophy for sharing this video 🌹
@vedanta_philosophy
4 ай бұрын
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Pranams Maharaj. So good.... 🙏🙏🙏
How nicely explained the presence of Brahman within us.Swamiji koti koti pranam.🙏🙏🙏🙏
What a wonderful explanation! The Gospel of Sri Ramakrishna mentions, the phrase "Neti, Neti". Just a two word approach to reductionism as explained by Swamiji.. These kind of sessions are needed to comprehend great literary works like the Gospel.
@vedanta_philosophy
4 ай бұрын
🙏🙏🙏
Extremely fortunate to hear Swamiji's lecture 🙏
@vedanta_philosophy
4 ай бұрын
Jai Shri Ram, Jai Shri Krishna 🙏
wonderful video. Thank you Swamiji
Excellently explained by Maharaj🙏🌺..for more details we can go through the conversation between Bhagaban SriSriRamakrishna and Pandit Iswar Chandra Vidyasagar.."BHRAMA".. So simply expained by Thakur 🌺🙏..
Simply awesome Swamiji 🙏🙏🙏
Jai Sri Ramakrishna 🐚🌺🙏 Consciousness with truth realities 🙏🙏🙏
@vedanta_philosophy
4 ай бұрын
Jai Shri Ram, Jai Shri Krishna 🙏
One of the most enlighting lecture I have heard. Would like to have transcript of this lecture Does any one know if there are transcripts of swamiji's lectures?
Really wonderful
Wonderful speech,thanks to u sir,Appearance plus reality and Realise it how?Ego challenged non dualism,sader pranam
Consciousness IS. Capital IS fullstop. It can be experienced but cannot be conceptualised.
We are blessed guruji is with us
Absolutely brilliant. He is spot on
Pranam Maharaj🙏🌺🙏. Jai Shri Ramakrishna 🌺🙏
JOY THAKUR JOY MAA JOY Swamiji, Maharaj ji bhaktipurna Pronam neben 🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼🙏🏼
Namaste Swamiji 🙏
Jai Sri Ramakrishna 🐚🌺🙏
Pranam swami ji
Thank you Sir..(Maharaj)..
Beautiful salutations at the beginning itself! Beautiful!
Always feel great to listen to you Swami ji
Great insight and search within consciousness.
Great talk Swami
Pranam
Simply this great explanation Thanks
Beautiful lecture Swami jee, thanks for sharing your thoughts with us.
Fantastic, as always. What a treasure he is! Thank you!
Guruji pranam pranam at your feet I love you from my heart from my mind from my body and athma
such clarity of thought! I’m spell bound by Swamiji’s brilliance 🙏🏻
Chit is consciousness - chit is chaitanya - energy - with respect to a person, it is movement - heart beat - flow - flow of blood - no blood flow no life - brain can not work, body/heart loses movent.
So beautiful. Eye opener. Swamiji my sastang pranamam
Pranam Maharaj 🙏. This lecture is enough to explain the Adwait Vedanta in less than one hour. 🙏♥️. Our lectures have changed my life. I strongly believe you have the power to change many people also... Waiting for the time to see you only for once.
@vedanta_philosophy
4 ай бұрын
I believe so too. I believe one day Advaita Vedanta will be a household name/concept worldwide. Once it's slightly understood there is no going back to any other way of thinking. It's truly sublime. 🙏
@addalavenkataratnam5449
4 ай бұрын
@vedanta_philosophy How our Rishis have understood the concept of consciousness and the top philosophers or physicists could not or struggle to understand by using the latest technology to see things through the lens of magnified sensory organs, sir
Such a beautiful lecture.. I have to listen to it over and over, to dive into the Swami's ocean of thoughtful insights.. But I have what seems to me a harder question.. the question of 'Why'.. Why does Consciousness, Brahmand, Ananda exist?
Your Mind is your knowledge
We just have different levels in Consciousness ! 📚 📚 📚
Too good
প্রনাম গুরুজি ॥
Om.Swameyji come out of your body and see it from outside.Convert this body into light foram that the end of it
The questioner, doubter, seeker should go ( subside ) 🕉️ Then how can we think about consciousness 🤔🤔 We are Consciousness 🙏🏻
KNOWING external = 5 sences= reality knowing internal = conciousness= Truth Not intresseted in any question but only plesent experience = again CONCIOUSNESS❤
Thank you Swami ji. What happens to consciousness on brain death? Or when someone dies?
@vedanta_philosophy
3 ай бұрын
I wish I knew the answers myself but I am also a student like yourself. The best I have found is read here: www.swami-krishnananda.org/bgita/bgita_26.html and here: hinduism.stackexchange.com/a/46191. I hope this helps 🙏
Kesadaran adalah berfungsinya tubuh dan pikiran. Panca indra dari tubuh berfungsi dan otak berfungsi dan Roh membuatnya berfungsi alias hidup sehingga manusia bisa MENGALAMI. tq.
Om
Keep your brain active
Swamiji, please give a talk on the topics; "World/matter is nothing other than information assumed n experienced by the consciousness"
@vedanta_philosophy
4 ай бұрын
I will look for this for you and compile a video. I will comment here when its live. Thank you for watching. 🙏
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@vedanta_philosophy
3 ай бұрын
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🎉🎉🎉🎉❤
Guruji is very much from God
Vedic knowledge of conscious is relatable to modern quantum physics , there could be a god or a matrix.
Swami Sarvapriyananda is abhinava Ranganathanandaji
Profundity and spontaneity writ large
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It was Alan Watts who used “Nothing But-ery” and also disliked materialists who used “Merely” 😂 couple other good ones I cant remember. Terrence McKenna quoted Moby Dick saying “Reality always outruns apprehension” 💚
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It insults me that my opponent has anything beautiful, which is a testament against me revealing the Goodness that must be hidden from Jealous, who is God.
32:29 ❤
I greatly enjoy the Swamiji's wonderful talks :) Even though I disagree with him strongly on this point. There is no explanation needed for the subjectivity. The subjectivity is an illusion. Perhaps for evolutionary reasons, biological organisms evolved the skill of pretending that they are having a subjective experience. It helps genes propagate more effectively.
If the hard problem of consciousness is about How, it's not hard enough. The real question is Why. Why is there this first person experience? Not just How.
Guruji pl talk about these God's children
Could Consciousness be compared partially with sensory systems of these days?
'David Hume you are looking in the wrong place. The Self is not an object.' Henceforth the impasse.
Hard problem of consciousness. Let us start with the definition of an Individual (I) from an Automation Engineer’s perspective: An Individual is made up of body and mind with following functions. Body functions are mainly divided into two: (1) Production and utilization of energy for existence of the Individual and (2) Protect the Individual and preserve the species. Mind functions are (1) Receive information (input) from outside world, (2) process information and understand the need (3) decide and (4) take appropriate actions (output) for supporting the body functions. This definition of an individual seems to be agreeable for both physics and Vedanta. However, the decision making processes are different. From Vedantic perspective, Individual Consciousness (Jeevathma) is the one who understands (the knower) and the decision maker. Further, Jeevathma is illumined by the Universal Consciousness (Paramathma, The Creator). While in Artificial Intelligence (AI), the decisions are made by algorithms (software). Decisions are made with help of the knowledge base accumulated through machine learning and by comparison of accumulated data (from the knowledge base) but not by understanding the issue (First person experience). No consciousness (the ‘knower’) in AI. In our personal experience, we are consciousness, understand and make decisions. Hard problem of consciousness for physics is the identity of Vedantic Jeevathma, the individual consciousness . As there is no physical property / attributes (that a sensor can detect / identify), Jeevathma can not be identified by physics. And this is the challenge and the Hard problem of consciousness. I believe, currently this problem lies outside the realm of physics.
Swami vivekananda has told more than100years agothat 2) matter and mind are interchangeable3) in fact there is no such thing as matter!..jai swamiji maharaj ..
@harimenon8822
2 ай бұрын
Really even great men can say rubbish at times .
Cociousness is not BRAIN not MIND not OBJECT not MANY not DUAL (ADVAITA)
Could the date and the venue (place & occasion) be noted in the show notes?
@vedanta_philosophy
4 ай бұрын
Yes, they are there already. For your pleasure here they are 🙏 ** Title ** Reality and Reality+ : Advaita Vedanta and the Hard Problem of Consciousness by Swami Sarvapriyananda ** Filmed ** Ramakrishna Mission Institute of Culture Golpark Seminar on "The Re-Emergence of Spirituality in 21st Century Philosophy" held from 2nd to 4th January 2024.
@tzadik36
4 ай бұрын
@@vedanta_philosophy Thank you! Namashkaars!🙏
@smitashroff3787
4 ай бұрын
@@vedanta_philosophy whr can we find d notes. hve not gone thru swamijis talks. am scheduling it from monday onwards. ❤
@vedanta_philosophy
4 ай бұрын
@@smitashroff3787 Which notes do you mean?
all ques are everyone supposed to be asked oneself least once in lifetime ,Love this conversation I don't want to go in means and methods of branches such as values,reality,mind..etc already had written many thesis on branches :) but vedanta let grabbed the roots Mind rise n come to an existence only when if thers 'thinking' or ' thought occurred ' What's the thought ?or it came from ? sci,scientist, neurosurgn or philosopher can't define this although philosophy only works discussed over material physical existence With possible nearly fit solution n approximation but can't tell principal /facts base one crystal clear error free non bias conclusion that's the limitations of 'philosophy' which can just stretch the outward manner n goes forward direction ,. तत्व मसि While vedanta jumps on very roots that what was even b4 the thoughts like jungle lion grab sheep from n@ck ,by knowing the one ll know everything this is glory of vedanta ,. I do have little sweet concern n humble request plz call vedanta as just 'vedanta knowledge/wisdom' or just as 'vedanta' not as philosophy is different thing still people used to say this that's fine but philosophy is as I mentioned above is phil. hadn't reached/touched the all area with clear solution as compared to 'Vedanta' did,. philosophy is nail clippers while vedanta is sword can't use for nail when philosophy get tired ends gave up vedanti starts from Vedanta don't play role what has already been told or evey1 knows.. but plz let me end here you ahead Swamiji 🚩:)
In the realm where thoughts collide and dreams unfurl, Lies a riddle, deep, that puzzles every mind. It's the mystery of consciousness, a swirling whirl, A journey into the elusive, undefined. In the corridors of thought, where neurons dance, Where senses meet and mingle in a cosmic trance, There's a question that persists, a haunting glance, It's the hard problem of consciousness, a perplexing stance. - Chat GPT
Swamiji - by definition consciousness cannot be defined since that would make it finite. So it can only be experienced. So to even state that it IS non-dual is a category mistake. All the different models of consciousness are to be taken merely as tools to get to the experience of consciousness experiencing itself.
The way computing technology is progressing these days, in 25 years we will be able to levitate.
Consciousness 33:25
Sir, Arguments that machines though capable generating artificial intelligence are not endowed with consciousness may be invalid in future. Married people breed children who are of course endowed with souls and consciousness. We rear animals and grow plants and trees. What if they use bio chemical elements and produce living beings in future ? Should philosophers accept defeat for that reason ? The aims and paths of science and philosophy will always remain different .