According to Japanese table tennis magazine, Wang Ligin said that "I couldn't play well because I just blanked out when I received his service. I didn't have no clue about waldner"s service."

@Bork0r

4 жыл бұрын

To be fair, hidden serves are difficult to receive in the first place. And then imagine hidden serves by one of the best servers out there. Yikes

@jansenwang6679

4 жыл бұрын

Very difficult to read hidden service..

@dickn.ormous1064

3 жыл бұрын

@@Bork0rWang Liqin had notoriously bad return of serve.Especially reverse pendullum serves to his forehand.He certainly benefited from the new rules cause his game was too simplistic for the 38mm era.Liu Guozheng was considered the bigger talent by Chinese coaches.

@Bork0r

3 жыл бұрын

@@dickn.ormous1064 I didn't know. Interesting.

These games were played after Waldner won second times World Championship in 1997. It was also his second peak in his sport career. At that stage, Wang LQ had no capability to beat Waldner in terms of skills and mentality.

Respect to these greats, FIVE world championships between these two guys.

@samba2782

5 жыл бұрын

Doesnt JO have 6 himself?

@janovewaldner1

5 жыл бұрын

@@samba2782 Sorry if I was not precise, I meant World Championships, not junior, not world cup, not other events.

@benthekeeshond545

5 жыл бұрын

@@samba2782 WTTC is the tournament that determines the best player every 2 years. WTTC is where all the good players will participate and the hardest TT tournament to succeed.

@krzysztoflaskowski6110

4 жыл бұрын

@@samba2782 no mate, waldner 2 singles 1989 and 1997 and Wang 3 titles

@dickn.ormous1064

2 жыл бұрын

Waldner does have 2 WTTC in singles and 4 in teams.

You can see Wang is a little awe struck by Waldner and how much respect he has particually on his serve. Would of been a awesome match to see both in there prime. But Waldner was punching well above his weight after his prime for so long..that what made him so great. Waldner is pure magician.

I wondered how they allowed a white t shirt to Waldner (the greatest player ever in table tennis) but soon realized in a closer view that its an orange ball

waldner it's not just about fabulous technique & it all looks so smooth. the man is always supercomposed. deadly combination.

@aydenliam7454

2 жыл бұрын

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@armandocassius829

2 жыл бұрын

@Ayden Liam instablaster :)

This sport has changed so much since then. Waldner by far the best player of his era and Ma Long the best player of his era imo. So many fantastic players between including Ma Lin, Wang Hao and this player Wang Liqin and the europeans Timo Boll and Vladimir Samsonov.

@Bxrzoi

3 жыл бұрын

Ma long is boring compared to waldner... A lot..

@NoSpeechForTheDumb

4 ай бұрын

​@@Bxrzoiin general the game became boring after they removed the spin in order to accommodate silly audiences.

Amazing how different the game is nowadays.

@epic1053

4 жыл бұрын

​@@radjedi2010 back in 1997 players were allowed to hide the contact of their serve using their other hand, which is something Wang and waldner were using. By the 1997 top players were taking advantage of it and as a result many points were lost directly from the serve. Bigger ball has also helped to increase length of rallies however it's not as big of a change as the service rule.

Waldner is the GOAT in service skills. I wonder if Waldner's service skills changed the game from 21 points/5 service opportunities to 11 points/2 service opportunities?

Всё таки Валднер самый великий теннисист в мире. Он фактически уровнял подачу и приём. Сделал приём активным. Чем сейчас пользуються все теннисисты.

the shot that owned a decade

The Legend. Still growing tree!

OMG, the mispronunciation of Wang Liqin's name. Goodness gracious.

@jc9hole

4 жыл бұрын

they mispronounced Waldner's name too. these announcers are pretty terrible

@iuwdbwudbvhwduivhbwduivbii431

4 жыл бұрын

Vang Lee king 😂

the hidden services actually makes the games more attractive to watch. And also the 38mm ball. Sadly few people understand this.

Waldner, so good.

Excellent co-commentator!

@ttlegends3104

9 жыл бұрын

from what they say during the match i understand he is the former coach of the swedish national team his name is mentioned at the beginning of the third set. I am not 100% sure but it sounds like Sandstrom

@MarmaLagga

5 жыл бұрын

Appelgren.

@MarmaLagga

5 жыл бұрын

Mikael Appelgren.

@NightcruiserMA

4 жыл бұрын

@@ttlegends3104 Anders Sanstrom, I believe.

@paulbismuth10

3 жыл бұрын

Fortunately for us because the journalist knows almost nothing. I also remember how in the 90' table tennis could be often seen on tv like in France for some events live on the second main channel or on Eurosport. Today it's hard to find even an article in the press.

Waldner fantastic semplicity shot

@ttlegends3104

9 жыл бұрын

Waldner is a genius

This video would've been much more enjoyable if the announcers didn't talk as much (especially during points)

Time flies, 22 yrs ago.

waldner has inspired me to reach higher grounds

@andr101

5 жыл бұрын

have u started mountaineering because of him?

Waldner standing on higher ground on its finest level.....Wang little bit intimidated.

5:55 wait what, a backhand serve by Waldner?

man the game has changed a lot. we only play first to 11, and the matches are even longer now. the rallies in general are much longer than they use to be.

@andreialexandruparfeni7129

7 жыл бұрын

millionairejh I disagree. The average number of shots a rally is 3-4.

@pham1020

7 жыл бұрын

tteverywhere97 Not sure where you get that number from. I dont know the average number of shot per rally but 3-4 are the number of shots in among the shortest rallies. Most of rallies last 5-7 strokes. And just count the number of long rally with more than 10 strokes in a match nowadays you can see how long it is.

@andreialexandruparfeni7129

7 жыл бұрын

Q Pham That's everybody on the internet says, anyway. And what some guys that claim they went through many games in the WTTC said.

@pham1020

7 жыл бұрын

tteverywhere 97 Well, that doesnt sound convincing to me. But regardless, this match on this video has 7 rallies with 10 strokes or more though out the whole match and 115 rallies were played. While with the 11 scoreline, most of matches nowadays last for less than 100 rallies unless they played 7 sets. And Ive seen many matches with more than 15 of 10 strokes rallies and even matches with more than one 20 strokes rallies. Based on the time it takes for one match to finish, it still show that nowadays rallies are longer in general.

Where is that famous WL straight arm loop? Must have not been fully developed yet.

very good video!!! Do you have 1997 Qatar Table Tennis Open Videos?

@ttmasters5250

9 жыл бұрын

this is all I have

@flutehood

3 жыл бұрын

There is a huge problem with the creator of this video at the very end of it! Why? Mr Jan Waldner is Swedish NOT any American!!! It was the world final match of Japanese Open. Isn't it? Why the flag of Sweden is not appearing at the end of Video Mr TT Master???!!!!

freaking shots from waldner!!!!!@.@

6:46

wang li qin 19 tahun lalu

both these men have been in wold champion single final FOUR times! both have THREE finals in a row!

@TTCyger

8 жыл бұрын

Galimah Waldner 87', 89' and 91' (97 last time) and Wang Liqin once in 01' and then 05', 07' and 09'. Just to complete ;)

@zhefeng8441

8 жыл бұрын

+TTCyger Wang Liqin was runner-up for the 09' wttc. The champion was Wang Hao.

@zagrebnesh1875

5 жыл бұрын

the difference is liqin had 3 wins, jan 2

@souldesire5932

4 жыл бұрын

@@zagrebnesh1875 Everyone knows Waldner was better than Wang...no contest..Wang is amazing obviously, but in their primes Waldner would win 60-70% of the time at least..

0:00 Wang Liqin just so handsome

王励勤がまだ若くて細い この後あんなにムキムキになるかと思うと、物凄い練習をしたんだろう

Wang Li KING superb

Это было круто

Респект

Table Tennis rules of this era was better I cant stand the new era rules and regulation and changes.

Wow! Waldner really beat that Wang!

Yoooooo Henstridge!!

wang liqin looks like a Korean, face and hairstyle

Service had big advantage back then with hidden rules

Since when can you play in a white shirt? Oh orange ball.

老瓦👍

23:54

wangliqin?so cute!!!!

Wang Liqin's first international appearance.

@ttlegends3104

9 жыл бұрын

Thanks for info

@michautxavier9177

9 жыл бұрын

No he made the WTTC in Manchester a fews weeks before (he lost to Samsonov)

@Galimah

9 жыл бұрын

Michaut Xavier he made debut on swedish open at age 17 in 1995. he was noticed for beating Jean-Philipe Gatien, then 1 of the best players in the world in the first round before losing to Erik Lindh in the third.

How could you think wang would ever have a chance against waldner? He literally missed 20 serves over 3 games. Waldner looked so bored he was only playing on his own serve

@maxk880

4 жыл бұрын

Waldner serve unfair, wouldn't be allowed by today's rules

@jansenwang6679

4 жыл бұрын

That is the power of hidden service.. therefore it is not allowed anymore in today's TT.

@dickn.ormous1064

3 жыл бұрын

Wang Liquin had notoriously crappy return of serve.There's a match in 1999 against Kreanga and once Kreanga starts serving backhand serves to Wang's forehand he totally collapsed. As you may know it's pretty much impossible to hide the backhand serve.His short game was simply crap for the 38mm ball. He almost lost to an Australian at the 2008 Olympics because he couldn't read his tomahawk serve. Waldner wasn't even the worst match up serving wise for him 'cause he was particularly vulnerable to guys who liked to 3rd ball attack with their backhand like Wang Hao and Schlager.

@uchihadayne6506

3 жыл бұрын

@@maxk880 unfair? No it’s called a SKILL. Table tennis with a smaller ball, hidden serves required 10x more skill to play. It’s not unfair and people were actually good or bad at it. It was dumbed down to extend point length and rallies in the hopes it would bring mass appeal, which it still has not. Beyond that waldners real strength was in his point construction and strategy and variation in what he could do. The serves were just another strong point

@carlpeterkirkebo2036

9 ай бұрын

@@maxk880 Not unfair if the rules were different at the time.

Maby swedens best atletic of all Times...

When was Waldner's peak?`He still plays really well here, but when did he play his best?

@dickn.ormous1064

2 ай бұрын

Around the 1992 Olympics.He was clinical in 1997 but past his peak.

@dickn.ormous1064

11 күн бұрын

1989-1992.

The cat is playing with the mouse. At that time Waldner was way better than Liqin.

Los chinos le tenían un terror a waldner ...por años les dio sus buenas palizas...

waldner in his prime

@nicklasandersson5606

5 жыл бұрын

No that was 89-93

@Youtube_Globetrotter

5 жыл бұрын

@@nicklasandersson5606 Waldner won with out losing a single set. In 7 games. I think its fair to say it was his peak

@hejda3446

5 жыл бұрын

@@KZread_Globetrotter not according to himself,he was in better shape in 92,( he said in hes book,"i was in the shape of my life and i took at least 10 kilos in benchpress" ) waldner loved joling about the myth that he didnt train.and in thoose years he won exactly wich match he wanted.maybe you can call it second prime then,if anyone can have that its waldner 😀

but seriuously wang made his way. Isnt he considered one of the best players of all time after that? Come On, this was a kid

王励勤若い。。。

Wang prime I think would beat Waldner Prime. However, it's still very hard to compare since the rules and the game has changed so much.

@dickn.ormous1064

10 күн бұрын

Wang in Waldner's era would have a career similar to Ma Wenge.His backhand and serve receive would have been exposed by Europeans even more.

wow are the players of 1997 weaker than players of today or is that just a different play style?

@valiantsin1983

5 жыл бұрын

My Op: not only different style of play but different rules and equipment. Would FZD be there - I believe would loose to Waldner because of this, be Waldner here - FZD would beat him.

Woldner vs wank le king 😂

大人と子供の試合だな・・

What? Wang LEAKING??? That's hilarious!!!

@reinaldopessoa2603

5 жыл бұрын

Well look at how it's spelled, I think that was a simple mistake.

@sebastiannebe136

4 жыл бұрын

Lee-King

Protoze pouziva mozek.

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王励勤吃球吃饱了

Haha, I like how they bad mouth the Chinese player, you don't do that anymore. Ha ha today when a European player loses, you credit them by saying …"they're good, they play hard, yes they have a good back hand..."

I felt very sorry for liqin in 2004 olympics when he was forced to throw he match against wang hao because the chinese thought hao had better chance against waldner,though waldner didnt reach final and everything it became a throwback on the chinese with ruy min winning and then also liqin beat waldner for bronse.

@valiantsin1983

5 жыл бұрын

Hm, nice beat with Waldners pure mistake in serve. That timeout was actually the only way to break the Waldners song

Interesting Waldner was allowed to wear a white shirt with the white ball

@kl1172

8 жыл бұрын

Bigferg13 It's an orange ball :)

@dalerudder5606

8 жыл бұрын

+Bigferg13 The ball is yellow by the way

The commentators are so boring, they say nothing of value.

この頃のワルドナーと今の俺、どちらが強いのだろうか？考えさせられる💦💦

Waldner so boring omg you just sit there how are you best table tennis player?

@enematwatson1357

4 жыл бұрын

To (approximately) quote the master: "I don't have to move. I'm already in the right place". 😁

@maxbowie6074

Жыл бұрын

Because he reads the game so well he's often in the right position

wang liqin in his prime wouldve smoked waldner in his prime no doubt.

@SuperHammaren

8 жыл бұрын

+Jonathan Landeros No. No one evolved the game as Waldner did. 3 generations of Chinese players hunted down. At least. Given the same age, Wang could win a few matches initially, then Waldner would find the ways to beat him, evolve the game, and never lose again.

@johnnylanderos7067

8 жыл бұрын

So what youre saying is that Waldner was pretty good at evolving the game huh?

@SuperHammaren

8 жыл бұрын

Jonathan Landeros Yes me and most of the table tennis world,Lao Wa. Compare the game when he was in the quarter final in SOC in 81, age 15 with how it was in 2004/5. Including a ball change from 38 to 40 mm. Mozart of table tennis was not my saying. World top ten for 20 years. The Chinese newer bothered to try to read him because they knew they could not. 13 years older still he could beat Wang. Given the opportunity of the same age and no bad back, no question.

@TTTTCJGKS

7 жыл бұрын

While Waldner could beat Wang Liqin while both in their primes it would be tough still and maybe only a 50/50. Waldner was great but he definitely wasn't invincible even back then. People like Liu Guoliang gave him a lot of trouble and Jan was even feared by him and his serves during his time, he even stated this himself. Ma Lin was also way ahead of him in terms of skill and ability. But who knows for sure...

@andreialexandruparfeni7129

7 жыл бұрын

groudon4616 Well, Waldner in his prime was the 1989-1992 Waldner that won a WTTC, got a silver medal in the WTTC and won the Olympics easily. If Ma Lin was way ahead of him in skill, then why did Waldner beat him 4-1 in 2004?

Very boring Compared to 2018

@benthekeeshond545

5 жыл бұрын

I don't think so. The real TT game should be like this. The 40mm ball took spins away from TT.

@tomspice73

3 жыл бұрын

If Waldner's game or Liquin's is boring for You, You dont know what TT is