Wang Liqin is one of the best TT players ever. With 3 WTTC Single Titles, his record clearly indicates his position in TT hierarchy.
@tomspice73
2 жыл бұрын
I love hím, too. Bút the most important title. Is missing. Olympic champion. Waldner, Kong, guoliang and Long have it
@benthekeeshond545
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomspice73 The Olympics is a prestigious event because a player represents his country. But the Olympics does not include most of the world's best players. Each country represents by 2 of their best players, not necessarily the top players in the world. While the WTTC traditionally determines who will be the #1 rank player in the world. This is because all the best players in the world will compete and try to win this tournament, the toughest TT competition, once every 2 years. Wang Liqin is one of 3 players who won 3 WTTC Singles since the 1950s. I would say even Ma Long will have trouble winning against a peak Wang Liqin.
@TableTennisHero
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. World championship is the most difficult tournament. Olympics is diluted because only 2 or 3 are allowed per country. Wlq winning 3 wttc is amazing. He is the only player that could beat ma long or Zhang jike at their peak
@ShamyTV5k
2 жыл бұрын
absolutely he is one of the best
@benthekeeshond545
2 жыл бұрын
@@TableTennisHero I believe a peak Ma Lin would be able to beat them both. But we can't prove that unless we can manipulate time. In the 40mm era, the achievements of Wang Liqin and Ma Lin were just as good as over-achiever Zhang Jike and the Great Ma Long. But Wang Liqin was not as good as Ma Lin or Waldner when they were in the 38mm ball era. The 40mm ball has a lower angular velocity. That somewhat took away the effectiveness of both Waldner and Ma Lin's serves.
@cristovamjaques74915 жыл бұрын
voltei no tempo agora quando joguei exatamente neste lugar nas Paraolimpíadas em 2004 contra adversários poderosos...como o Chinês Ping au Pong ...um espanhol número 4 do mundo na época e outros mais....
@hanshuang64382 жыл бұрын
When the final match reached 9:10, JO reviewed every single match he played in his 21-year long career in few seconds to find a correct way to reverse the game. When he finally made up his mind, he tossed the ball highly into the sky. The ball went up, reached the peak, then fell down straightly in a high speed, just like every legends' career: when you touch the bottom, you leave. But JO missed it. Kind of dramatic, even seems like a dark humor. But the ball never truly left, so does JO Waldner. He lost to no one, he lost to time.
@borisgraell
Жыл бұрын
is that what Wang Liqin said?
@pingpong4620
Жыл бұрын
Lovely write up.
@gilekopi7296
6 ай бұрын
No way wang saying that
@olegnekhaev3 жыл бұрын
I admire Waldner's game! what concentration, precision of the shots. improvisation!
@dgv646
2 жыл бұрын
Especially his last serve...
@abhishekjaiswal93047 жыл бұрын
its sad watching that last serve fault!
@dingaling2007
5 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert!
@muri679
3 жыл бұрын
Right... but always like.jo.service
@faycalarioui1256 жыл бұрын
to lift up the ball to end his career as a respect for the tabletennis sport means just one word : LEGENDARY
@horodomiltd7346
6 жыл бұрын
he didnt do that for respect. he wanted to check the flight path because he missed the serve. probably wanted to check if there was any wind or the ball was dented or something. whatever it was he lost and i agree he is legendary!
@jyothim558
5 жыл бұрын
ha
@sandysun8520
4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂. ....this is the proof....we still have ppl who can say any act as legend act😂
@sandysun8520
4 жыл бұрын
@@horodomiltd7346 yes
@faycalarioui125
3 жыл бұрын
@@sandysun8520 Body Language is hard to understand.You need to level up your intellectual mindset.
@MrKexarn4 жыл бұрын
Missing the last serve and still looks like a winner, LEGEND
@dgv646
2 жыл бұрын
Except he lost... If you think his facial expression at the end was that of a winner, oh man you must be a total underachiever.
@victodead56236 жыл бұрын
Incredible match point !
@user-qd8db7ft7v3 жыл бұрын
Perfect games with speed and imagination !!! Its very sad that they made the balls plastic... Table tennis lost 30 years of technic evolution with this plastic non spin brick that replaced celluloid at 2013
@user-og7wh1ps6d5 жыл бұрын
38歳でマリン、ボル倒してここまで来ることが伝説。
@user-wr7bn8fy5p5 жыл бұрын
1:00 から試合
@antoncigur37272 жыл бұрын
He lost to Wang Liqin, one of the all time greats. Nothing to regret
@thyagtubes5 жыл бұрын
4:27 - WTF
@4m4lmini4wdhobbyshop76 жыл бұрын
Thats how the timeout work I guess...psychology game...
@marcusbrsp
4 жыл бұрын
Breaks the rhythm and flow, at the very least.
@niklastorshagen63659 ай бұрын
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
@hanzblicks63432 жыл бұрын
Every European would be happy and excited to win a bronze medal at the Olympics. Wang Liqin just walked away sadly and without joy.
@zerotalent191
2 жыл бұрын
Legend
@dickn.ormous1064
5 ай бұрын
China lost 2 medals to Waldner that's why.
@nofallsnoballs213 жыл бұрын
Legend
@guimakol2 жыл бұрын
j'ai eu l'occasion également de battre Waldner, ce fut en 1988, dans un camping de la cote d'Azur.Il était à 2,5 grammes et moi à 3 grammes. N'empêche, je lui ai donné une leçon avec mes services type"revers vrillé"... après on a rigoulé
@detskalldaltas1335 жыл бұрын
WHAT A MATCH! J-O KING OF SWEDEN! Fattade inte slutet,hade kineserna slut med ögontejp?
@najibasyrafi6617
3 жыл бұрын
king of world
@muri6793 жыл бұрын
I like jo w always
@alexmich77 жыл бұрын
вот если бы Ян подал подачу. был бы ком бэк ...
@user-io4ps8oq4l4 жыл бұрын
ワルドナーは1965年生まれ 当時38歳だったのか 私も頑張ろう
@holagame63084 жыл бұрын
Duelo entre leyendas.... me hace acordar a Espartaco vs Teocles.
@nedimgarip Жыл бұрын
mola alınca devamını waldner alacak zannettim ( videonun bitmesine daha vardı ) adam gitti servis kaçırdı : ) harbi şaşırdım,,, bu spor gerçekten çok tuhaf sürprizler barındırıyor.
@kyr15113 жыл бұрын
Good game GUys!
@minorboy48716 жыл бұрын
ワルドナーが審判に話しかけてたのってフラッシュかな?
@MrChenweixing3 жыл бұрын
ワルドナーのストップうますぎやろw
@Vario125HID4 жыл бұрын
Wang Liqin has defeated Waldner... but,, where's Wang Liqin now ? is there any update ? btw, i respect Wang Liqin that plays all out.. congratulation..
@suddenlee2336
4 жыл бұрын
he's a consultant to the chinese team now
@user-lq2nu6cn7y
3 жыл бұрын
Liqin retired around 2014
@mindrover777
3 жыл бұрын
@@suddenlee2336 what type of consultant.
@hanshuang6438
2 жыл бұрын
He's the president of Shanghai Center of Table Tennis and Badminton right now
@sh2309682 жыл бұрын
Whoever played better won.
@user-yg5fm6qj7f6 жыл бұрын
最後あせったな
@rodlewis8307 жыл бұрын
Windy conditions, someone must have left a window open
@AGT0M
7 жыл бұрын
Most likely strong air conditioning to blame.
@ongnarukami4451
3 жыл бұрын
AGT0M Most likely he just missed it himself and no one to blame
@dickn.ormous1064
2 жыл бұрын
@@ongnarukami4451 Nope,there was a problem with the air-conditioning, Schlager said so.
@pingpong9005
2 жыл бұрын
@@dickn.ormous1064 agreed...but wlq played better that day and deserved win.
@dickn.ormous1064
2 жыл бұрын
@@pingpong9005 He played OK but he never performed really well at the Olympics.
@galandjackson89012 жыл бұрын
7:24 XD
@RalphHund Жыл бұрын
Waldner in his prime and in form was pretty much unplayable. Waldner is the goat with the old ball. Ma Long is the goat with the new ball. Tabletennis was funnier with the old ball. Could switch up the game and Waldner was the master at it. Nowadays it's all about who is the best robot.
@dickn.ormous1064
11 ай бұрын
But Ma Long's prime should occur in the celluloid era,he was third wheel till the age of 27 which is ancient by Chinese standards.
@niklastorshagen6365
9 ай бұрын
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
@mrhdebater1607
5 ай бұрын
Waldner was good before 2000 when less countries competed, but was uncompetitive after 2000 against so many Chinese greats.
@afmirror01
Ай бұрын
Waldner certainly was not "unplayable", he in fact had a losing track record against top Chinese players even before 2000. But he was a very clutch player and can perform in big events. He is considered by many as the Goat due to that and his longevity (e.g. WTTC 1989, 1997 and of course the 2004 Olympics run).
@dickn.ormous1064
23 күн бұрын
@@afmirror01In fact he was 7-3 against Kong Linghui and owned players that beat the Chinese like Gatien and Kim Taek Soo.He was the most consistent players of the 90's.
@eerosiljander4622 Жыл бұрын
Jan-Ove is Best Ever. Finland says.
@ohc0igc0igc03 Жыл бұрын
What happened in 3.15 did opponent supporter flash laser to make waldner blind, this how they won then.....hilarious
@luisalbertogarciaprieto6518
6 ай бұрын
no tenial que a ver permitido al chino la parada tecnica, hizo trampa
@pjorkan7 ай бұрын
Hmmm, Waldner did win this but from what this video shows you would think the other dude won.
@josephrobinson8894 Жыл бұрын
I think this was the match when someone had aimed a laser at Jan to temporarily blind him. DIRTY PLAY FROM THE AUDIENCE 👎🏼 But Waldner is awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
@user-tx4rv3hy9x7 жыл бұрын
あれ?ユスンミンに負けたような気がしたんだが
@user-ng8hk5yu4x
7 жыл бұрын
3位決定戦ですね
@luisalbertogarciaprieto65186 ай бұрын
no se le debería haber dejado parar el.partido al chino
@detskalldaltas1335 жыл бұрын
WALDNER DONT LIKE SCREEEMING CHINIESE WITHOUT TEJP WHO HOLD UP THEIR EYES!
@jonathanmellqvist2
5 жыл бұрын
Swinglish showing its dumb side again
@detskalldaltas133
5 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmellqvist2 Kommentera då ej din höna. Hela käften full med Pride!
@hanshuang6438
2 жыл бұрын
Chinese are always admiring Swedish players like Waldner and Persson while Swedish people insulting Chinese players with arrogance. That's the difference between a Empire with 5 thousand years of history and uncivilized Viking pirates.
@niklastorshagen6365 Жыл бұрын
Waldner beats all the top chinese players with ease, and that means the best players in the world. But he usually have a hard time against any other countries players. It's a little weird
@djmix5000
Жыл бұрын
Waldner joked about communism
@dickn.ormous1064
5 ай бұрын
Cause Europeans are taller with better defence/backhand than Asians.
@mrhdebater1607
5 ай бұрын
Actually he couldn't beat any of the Chinese greats after 2000.
@dickn.ormous1064
5 ай бұрын
@@mrhdebater1607 Fake news alert!
@noakhaillacomilla61268 ай бұрын
Those who say Waldner is the GOAT are either biased or delusional. Ma long is the GOAT.
@dickn.ormous1064
5 ай бұрын
For beating minnows like Mizutani,Ovtcharov and injured Zhang Jike.
@DizXBear4 жыл бұрын
If waldner complained about the serve then it’s so stupid from him because he got far in table tennis only because he has a false serve
@pontusschroder8361
4 жыл бұрын
BearPlays There were other serve rules at that time
@DizXBear
4 жыл бұрын
Pontus Schroder I know that, and that’s why it’s ridiculous because all his serves are false and the one of wang liqin are more « legal » than waldner’s
@alberthuang4868
3 жыл бұрын
Waldner benefitted from hidden serve
@dickn.ormous1064
3 жыл бұрын
@@DizXBear Waldner had one of the most legal serves after the new rules were imposed, he immediately placed his left hand on his hip after tossing the ball.Wang Liqin served with his back facing the opponent,Ma Lin also cheated with his serve.
Пікірлер: 109
Wang Liqin is one of the best TT players ever. With 3 WTTC Single Titles, his record clearly indicates his position in TT hierarchy.
@tomspice73
2 жыл бұрын
I love hím, too. Bút the most important title. Is missing. Olympic champion. Waldner, Kong, guoliang and Long have it
@benthekeeshond545
2 жыл бұрын
@@tomspice73 The Olympics is a prestigious event because a player represents his country. But the Olympics does not include most of the world's best players. Each country represents by 2 of their best players, not necessarily the top players in the world. While the WTTC traditionally determines who will be the #1 rank player in the world. This is because all the best players in the world will compete and try to win this tournament, the toughest TT competition, once every 2 years. Wang Liqin is one of 3 players who won 3 WTTC Singles since the 1950s. I would say even Ma Long will have trouble winning against a peak Wang Liqin.
@TableTennisHero
2 жыл бұрын
I agree. World championship is the most difficult tournament. Olympics is diluted because only 2 or 3 are allowed per country. Wlq winning 3 wttc is amazing. He is the only player that could beat ma long or Zhang jike at their peak
@ShamyTV5k
2 жыл бұрын
absolutely he is one of the best
@benthekeeshond545
2 жыл бұрын
@@TableTennisHero I believe a peak Ma Lin would be able to beat them both. But we can't prove that unless we can manipulate time. In the 40mm era, the achievements of Wang Liqin and Ma Lin were just as good as over-achiever Zhang Jike and the Great Ma Long. But Wang Liqin was not as good as Ma Lin or Waldner when they were in the 38mm ball era. The 40mm ball has a lower angular velocity. That somewhat took away the effectiveness of both Waldner and Ma Lin's serves.
voltei no tempo agora quando joguei exatamente neste lugar nas Paraolimpíadas em 2004 contra adversários poderosos...como o Chinês Ping au Pong ...um espanhol número 4 do mundo na época e outros mais....
When the final match reached 9:10, JO reviewed every single match he played in his 21-year long career in few seconds to find a correct way to reverse the game. When he finally made up his mind, he tossed the ball highly into the sky. The ball went up, reached the peak, then fell down straightly in a high speed, just like every legends' career: when you touch the bottom, you leave. But JO missed it. Kind of dramatic, even seems like a dark humor. But the ball never truly left, so does JO Waldner. He lost to no one, he lost to time.
@borisgraell
Жыл бұрын
is that what Wang Liqin said?
@pingpong4620
Жыл бұрын
Lovely write up.
@gilekopi7296
6 ай бұрын
No way wang saying that
I admire Waldner's game! what concentration, precision of the shots. improvisation!
@dgv646
2 жыл бұрын
Especially his last serve...
its sad watching that last serve fault!
@dingaling2007
5 жыл бұрын
Spoiler alert!
@muri679
3 жыл бұрын
Right... but always like.jo.service
to lift up the ball to end his career as a respect for the tabletennis sport means just one word : LEGENDARY
@horodomiltd7346
6 жыл бұрын
he didnt do that for respect. he wanted to check the flight path because he missed the serve. probably wanted to check if there was any wind or the ball was dented or something. whatever it was he lost and i agree he is legendary!
@jyothim558
5 жыл бұрын
ha
@sandysun8520
4 жыл бұрын
Lol 😂. ....this is the proof....we still have ppl who can say any act as legend act😂
@sandysun8520
4 жыл бұрын
@@horodomiltd7346 yes
@faycalarioui125
3 жыл бұрын
@@sandysun8520 Body Language is hard to understand.You need to level up your intellectual mindset.
Missing the last serve and still looks like a winner, LEGEND
@dgv646
2 жыл бұрын
Except he lost... If you think his facial expression at the end was that of a winner, oh man you must be a total underachiever.
Incredible match point !
Perfect games with speed and imagination !!! Its very sad that they made the balls plastic... Table tennis lost 30 years of technic evolution with this plastic non spin brick that replaced celluloid at 2013
38歳でマリン、ボル倒してここまで来ることが伝説。
1:00 から試合
He lost to Wang Liqin, one of the all time greats. Nothing to regret
4:27 - WTF
Thats how the timeout work I guess...psychology game...
@marcusbrsp
4 жыл бұрын
Breaks the rhythm and flow, at the very least.
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
Every European would be happy and excited to win a bronze medal at the Olympics. Wang Liqin just walked away sadly and without joy.
@zerotalent191
2 жыл бұрын
Legend
@dickn.ormous1064
5 ай бұрын
China lost 2 medals to Waldner that's why.
Legend
j'ai eu l'occasion également de battre Waldner, ce fut en 1988, dans un camping de la cote d'Azur.Il était à 2,5 grammes et moi à 3 grammes. N'empêche, je lui ai donné une leçon avec mes services type"revers vrillé"... après on a rigoulé
WHAT A MATCH! J-O KING OF SWEDEN! Fattade inte slutet,hade kineserna slut med ögontejp?
@najibasyrafi6617
3 жыл бұрын
king of world
I like jo w always
вот если бы Ян подал подачу. был бы ком бэк ...
ワルドナーは1965年生まれ 当時38歳だったのか 私も頑張ろう
Duelo entre leyendas.... me hace acordar a Espartaco vs Teocles.
mola alınca devamını waldner alacak zannettim ( videonun bitmesine daha vardı ) adam gitti servis kaçırdı : ) harbi şaşırdım,,, bu spor gerçekten çok tuhaf sürprizler barındırıyor.
Good game GUys!
ワルドナーが審判に話しかけてたのってフラッシュかな?
ワルドナーのストップうますぎやろw
Wang Liqin has defeated Waldner... but,, where's Wang Liqin now ? is there any update ? btw, i respect Wang Liqin that plays all out.. congratulation..
@suddenlee2336
4 жыл бұрын
he's a consultant to the chinese team now
@user-lq2nu6cn7y
3 жыл бұрын
Liqin retired around 2014
@mindrover777
3 жыл бұрын
@@suddenlee2336 what type of consultant.
@hanshuang6438
2 жыл бұрын
He's the president of Shanghai Center of Table Tennis and Badminton right now
Whoever played better won.
最後あせったな
Windy conditions, someone must have left a window open
@AGT0M
7 жыл бұрын
Most likely strong air conditioning to blame.
@ongnarukami4451
3 жыл бұрын
AGT0M Most likely he just missed it himself and no one to blame
@dickn.ormous1064
2 жыл бұрын
@@ongnarukami4451 Nope,there was a problem with the air-conditioning, Schlager said so.
@pingpong9005
2 жыл бұрын
@@dickn.ormous1064 agreed...but wlq played better that day and deserved win.
@dickn.ormous1064
2 жыл бұрын
@@pingpong9005 He played OK but he never performed really well at the Olympics.
7:24 XD
Waldner in his prime and in form was pretty much unplayable. Waldner is the goat with the old ball. Ma Long is the goat with the new ball. Tabletennis was funnier with the old ball. Could switch up the game and Waldner was the master at it. Nowadays it's all about who is the best robot.
@dickn.ormous1064
11 ай бұрын
But Ma Long's prime should occur in the celluloid era,he was third wheel till the age of 27 which is ancient by Chinese standards.
@niklastorshagen6365
9 ай бұрын
J-O Waldner, The Mozart and The Ever Green Tree
@mrhdebater1607
5 ай бұрын
Waldner was good before 2000 when less countries competed, but was uncompetitive after 2000 against so many Chinese greats.
@afmirror01
Ай бұрын
Waldner certainly was not "unplayable", he in fact had a losing track record against top Chinese players even before 2000. But he was a very clutch player and can perform in big events. He is considered by many as the Goat due to that and his longevity (e.g. WTTC 1989, 1997 and of course the 2004 Olympics run).
@dickn.ormous1064
23 күн бұрын
@@afmirror01In fact he was 7-3 against Kong Linghui and owned players that beat the Chinese like Gatien and Kim Taek Soo.He was the most consistent players of the 90's.
Jan-Ove is Best Ever. Finland says.
What happened in 3.15 did opponent supporter flash laser to make waldner blind, this how they won then.....hilarious
@luisalbertogarciaprieto6518
6 ай бұрын
no tenial que a ver permitido al chino la parada tecnica, hizo trampa
Hmmm, Waldner did win this but from what this video shows you would think the other dude won.
I think this was the match when someone had aimed a laser at Jan to temporarily blind him. DIRTY PLAY FROM THE AUDIENCE 👎🏼 But Waldner is awesome 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
あれ?ユスンミンに負けたような気がしたんだが
@user-ng8hk5yu4x
7 жыл бұрын
3位決定戦ですね
no se le debería haber dejado parar el.partido al chino
WALDNER DONT LIKE SCREEEMING CHINIESE WITHOUT TEJP WHO HOLD UP THEIR EYES!
@jonathanmellqvist2
5 жыл бұрын
Swinglish showing its dumb side again
@detskalldaltas133
5 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanmellqvist2 Kommentera då ej din höna. Hela käften full med Pride!
@hanshuang6438
2 жыл бұрын
Chinese are always admiring Swedish players like Waldner and Persson while Swedish people insulting Chinese players with arrogance. That's the difference between a Empire with 5 thousand years of history and uncivilized Viking pirates.
Waldner beats all the top chinese players with ease, and that means the best players in the world. But he usually have a hard time against any other countries players. It's a little weird
@djmix5000
Жыл бұрын
Waldner joked about communism
@dickn.ormous1064
5 ай бұрын
Cause Europeans are taller with better defence/backhand than Asians.
@mrhdebater1607
5 ай бұрын
Actually he couldn't beat any of the Chinese greats after 2000.
@dickn.ormous1064
5 ай бұрын
@@mrhdebater1607 Fake news alert!
Those who say Waldner is the GOAT are either biased or delusional. Ma long is the GOAT.
@dickn.ormous1064
5 ай бұрын
For beating minnows like Mizutani,Ovtcharov and injured Zhang Jike.
If waldner complained about the serve then it’s so stupid from him because he got far in table tennis only because he has a false serve
@pontusschroder8361
4 жыл бұрын
BearPlays There were other serve rules at that time
@DizXBear
4 жыл бұрын
Pontus Schroder I know that, and that’s why it’s ridiculous because all his serves are false and the one of wang liqin are more « legal » than waldner’s
@alberthuang4868
3 жыл бұрын
Waldner benefitted from hidden serve
@dickn.ormous1064
3 жыл бұрын
@@DizXBear Waldner had one of the most legal serves after the new rules were imposed, he immediately placed his left hand on his hip after tossing the ball.Wang Liqin served with his back facing the opponent,Ma Lin also cheated with his serve.
@kungsverige1886
Жыл бұрын
Only jealous on Waldner...