Ma Lin vs Jan-Ove Waldner

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  • @ledorzejean-etienne3747
    @ledorzejean-etienne37475 ай бұрын

    2 of my favorite legends of table tennis with complete different play. Tt was great back in the 90s, with the 21 pts system, cellu and smaller balls, masked serves, glue booster. Everything which made this sport so intense has been thrown away. And the result is that every year less and less players in clubs

  • @JulienGaudfroy

    @JulienGaudfroy

    3 ай бұрын

    Although this is already 11 point bigger celluloid ball and no masked serves...

  • @ledorzejean-etienne3747

    @ledorzejean-etienne3747

    3 ай бұрын

    @@JulienGaudfroy yes you are right I saw my mistake after. Those guys were still symbols of the previous table tennis. Maybe they didn't care about those changes who knows... They had to do with it as professional players anyway. But most of the guys I played with didn't appreciate those new rules and material, even if we had to accept it.

  • @JulienGaudfroy

    @JulienGaudfroy

    3 ай бұрын

    @ledorzejean-etienne3747 it is important not to be biased either. I don't think table tennis is less popular with the new plastic ball, numbers don't lie, even outside of China table tennis is one of the most popular sports in the world, more than in the nineties. The new ball allows for more exchanges and less discouragement at the amateur level than with the serves and crazy spin of the 38mm era, so more fun at the end for most people. In terms of pure beauty of the game, I actually think the 40 celluloid ball era was the best to watch, it allowed more crazy and beautiful exchanges than the 38mm ball, but still allowed for many more different styles than today at the highest level. Comparatively players today have all similar styles, choppers/defenders/blockers have basically disappeared from the top 50.

  • @nulldemokratiezwei7773

    @nulldemokratiezwei7773

    14 күн бұрын

    @@JulienGaudfroy This is simply not true, just a repetion of the lies told by the officials.

  • @marielapencheva8475
    @marielapencheva8475 Жыл бұрын

    Super!

  • @marielapencheva8475
    @marielapencheva8475 Жыл бұрын

    Top!

  • @marielapencheva8475
    @marielapencheva8475 Жыл бұрын

    Уникални!

  • @pedrovoss7852
    @pedrovoss7852 Жыл бұрын

    Back when Ma Lin didn't look like he was in his 70's

  • @jorgealvarez4998

    @jorgealvarez4998

    Жыл бұрын

    ?????...... Ma Lin in the seventies?..... You know? in some ways your words make sense because at this classic match ma lin didn't look as a non born being, because, hey dear, he was born on 1980

  • @jorgealvarez4998

    @jorgealvarez4998

    Жыл бұрын

    And just by the record, Jan Ove Waldner was in fact a child when it was the decade you wrote

  • @jorgealvarez4998

    @jorgealvarez4998

    Жыл бұрын

    Maybe You wanted to say that about Waldner according to his impressive years so kind of distant in time when it was this tt match, but i don't care, i will remember him forever the way he was on his prime, most of all on 1997 when he was a TABLE TENNIS MONSTER !

  • @jorgealvarez4998

    @jorgealvarez4998

    Жыл бұрын

    You can see that monster nature from him in some flashing points he still did in this youtube video You're seeing : )

  • @Scarbosul

    @Scarbosul

    Жыл бұрын

    @@jorgealvarez4998 "In his 70s" means a person who is between 70 and 79 years old. He is saying that Ma Lin looks old (in an exaggerated way).

  • @maximstrategic7907
    @maximstrategic7907 Жыл бұрын

    Космос для того времени!

  • @1996Johnny
    @1996Johnny2 жыл бұрын

    master JO Waldner

  • @eerosiljander4622
    @eerosiljander4622 Жыл бұрын

    J-O Waldner #1.

  • @martinquinn3382
    @martinquinn33826 ай бұрын

    What year that match ?

  • @dadillo

    @dadillo

    5 ай бұрын

    2001

  • @stefandonev8406
    @stefandonev8406 Жыл бұрын

    O yea

  • @swagmoney1652
    @swagmoney16523 ай бұрын

    18:58 26:18

  • @user-dx8hs4lk7e
    @user-dx8hs4lk7e2 ай бұрын

    и никаких писков, визгов, фо, чоли, джоу и прочее.... и даже после последнего розыгрыша! Тогда считалось что возглосом можно отметить особо важное очко! А сейчас один в сетку подал другой кругами бегает по залу и пищит. По кадетам ездим, там парень из соседнего региона, понятно что он в призерах постоянно, но после каждого очка он повторяет все возможные возгласы да и не по одному разу.... кто такому учит и зачем я никогда понять не мог.

  • @mariusneumayer4419
    @mariusneumayer4419 Жыл бұрын

    Was it legal back then to cover the serve? Anyone know what year was this?

  • @-danR

    @-danR

    11 ай бұрын

    Yes it was, and JOW was one of the best at it. Timo Boll said Waldner was the toughest server he ever played against. It's clear in this match that Ma was thoroughly trained to read everything; Chinese coaches leave nothing to chance.

  • @if-constexpr

    @if-constexpr

    8 ай бұрын

    It was legal to hide your serves till late 2002, the serve rule changes went into effect around September 2002. This match is probably 2001 or 2002, judging from the fact that Waldner is using the Waldner Senso Carbon here instead of the Dicon.

  • @ledorzejean-etienne3747

    @ledorzejean-etienne3747

    5 ай бұрын

    It changed around 2000. When istopped playing in 99 it was still legal and when I came back in 2007 it was no longer

  • @sergioaguilar2908

    @sergioaguilar2908

    2 ай бұрын

    @@-danR Maybe Waldner knew Ma could deal with most of his services thats why he started to serve long fast services in both ends, to take Ma out of his confortable zone

  • @gilsoftcoder2387
    @gilsoftcoder2387 Жыл бұрын

    Waldner is already way past his prime in this match

  • @andreaseriksson8803

    @andreaseriksson8803

    7 ай бұрын

    That's right, but he beat Ma Lin in the 2004 Olympics so he still had something to give.

  • @perandersson6366
    @perandersson6366 Жыл бұрын

    Way to old - but no respect!

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