For all of you that says it's illegal now: When Waldner played it wasn't illegal, so technically it's the same for every player that played during his time.

@samitavaroy6813

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly

@wolfganghuss3352

3 жыл бұрын

in this time you can do this ..under the arm ... you cant see what coming ..i do this in this time too !!! but the regular changed ..and than its illegal when you do this ... more time later you can play with vh and RH in red ... and stampfen dazu ...nobody see and heard what comeing ... (one side with long noppen)

Not just his serves... He could literally block down most/many players, drive-block on his BH for outright winners off the other guy's loop... very under-rated part of his game.

He was so good that they changed the rules so the others would have a chance.

@ermattia

4 жыл бұрын

Which rule did they change?

@tahmidahnaf3834

4 жыл бұрын

Which rule???

@Benlo

4 жыл бұрын

@@ermattia Service can not be hidden, must be visible to the opponent at all times. Rule was changed in 2003, before then you can hide it how ever you want.

@richardjochman2411

4 жыл бұрын

It's not a skill if you hide your serve

@rosamelfierro6093

4 жыл бұрын

Waldner is my all time favorite player, but I'm agree. It's not fair to hide your service.

This guy literally got nerfed.

@luigividal4224

7 жыл бұрын

hahahaha

@elijahmunguia8736

7 жыл бұрын

C-Moe Builds lol

@pontusolssonPrivat

6 жыл бұрын

Yep

@stew880

5 жыл бұрын

Nerfed to the ground👎

@iceman9867

4 жыл бұрын

Game dev note- V 2.0: no hidden serves

wow he serves under his own arm to disguise which way the ball is going to go and what kind of spin he gonna put on it, than completely abandons this technique to confuse them, and he does it so perfectly

@allenx4229

8 жыл бұрын

+vballmusicGod it's against the rules to do that now...i think.

@wambo6186

8 жыл бұрын

+Allen X yes today its agains the rules

@samitavaroy6813

4 жыл бұрын

@@wambo6186 stop talking about today.Video was of waldners generation

The greatest server, and one of the top 5 players, IMO, of all time. You cannot name one player the best as you cannot compare different eras. Waldner's numbers (match wins) over the years were incredible.

@analogsound

2 жыл бұрын

You can. Waldner is the only player in the world whose every video is watched. Which other player can claim that?

Amazing services. But to be honest, I'm glad these kinds of services(hidden services) are now illegal.

@TTTTCJGKS

5 жыл бұрын

Why? All it did was make the serve a less viable option in a game scenario. You can literally see what kind of spin is on the ball every time if you have a good eye and a good receive. Not so fun if you ask me...

@grenoliw8667

4 жыл бұрын

Xander Projections so you have an impressive eye and stunning spin effect reading skills.. and even a big audience has the same skills.. sure thing.

@westrussel7037

4 жыл бұрын

What is the problem, everyone could hide serve! Rules apply to everyone. 🙂

@turkarslan0811

4 жыл бұрын

actually he is not hidin' he just fakin'

@guillaumelecam6257

4 жыл бұрын

No that's a shame

Jan Ove Waldner has inspired me since I was a kid... he has and always will be the BEST OF TABLE TENNIS... I would love just to see him play... he has the BEST SERVE AND GAME OF ALL TIME!

@Natureforce8

6 жыл бұрын

He was the best table tennis player of his era and probably the third or fourth best player in the history of table tennis if you look at achievements. I think third best.

@khaledshinnawy5621

4 жыл бұрын

he is no. 1

@dickn.ormous1064

Жыл бұрын

@@Natureforce8 titles wise second only to Ma Long but ML had joke competition.

How we like to see today in day this kind of moves which today already are not made- Waldner gave table tennis that shine and brilliance that only the loved to do, and displays today continues to do them and everyone applauds! It is fantastic I personally try to imitate some things, but clearly the has a unique talent. And it also has a sense of humor that today is strange. Only have reached that level of humor lately Chuan Chi Yuan and Jean Michel Saive.

Jan Ove Waldner one of the world's greatest table tennis Players. Certainly the best player from Sweden. Great strategist, tactician, and maestro of the game.

When hiding the serve was legal...

@reformCopyright

6 жыл бұрын

Good or bad rule change?

@lykiamaster1846

6 жыл бұрын

Good

@talhasakar3349

6 жыл бұрын

I think good

@Hunter-gy9xn

6 жыл бұрын

yeah

@TheCsePower

6 жыл бұрын

They made it illegal because of HIM

This man is incredible! The best serve!

1:24 scorer's face = my face when I see in Waldner in person.

I wish more people would do Waldner serve compilations. I think they're amazing.

@SylvainBerube

8 жыл бұрын

They are illegal now (you can't hide the ball with your body).

@loveruoo1307

Жыл бұрын

@@SylvainBerube literally takes a skill factor away. They were just much worse then him. And they couldnt handle it.

Ce ga est une légende ! Il voit des choses qu’on ne voit pas

One word,, amazing..

wtf watching in 2018 still worth it not gonna lie this serve is insane

there are very good players. wang liqin, ma long, zhang jike, timo, and some others. but no one is as genius as waldenr. he is uniqe in the hsitory of tt.

he will be always the king of service :D

His service and blocking skills were second to none.

Jan Ove Waldner represents the rise and fall of the dominance of the Swedish men table tennis team. He was the man leading the Swedish men table tennis team to win the gold medals of Men's team event of World Table Tennis Championship in 1989, 1991, 1993 and 2000 (the only other time Sweden winning the gold mdeal of men's team event of World Table Tennis Championship was 1973). He is the last Swedish to win men's single world title in world table tennis Championship in 1997.

@pontusm

Жыл бұрын

Mmmm oki

@thehoogard

9 ай бұрын

Wouldn't call him the leader of the 1989 squad. Arguably that was Appelgren.

Did not know him before, but I found my services technique and servicing to corners and edges like him, although I am not so good spinning.

Follow JO Waldner since his Olimpik vs France player during 1980's.

These clips make me realize that JOW isn't as much "the master of placement" as that he just looks that way because he's "The master of deceptive telegraphs"; he has this way of making you think that he's going to place the ball at one place by looking at place and moving in a certain way while in reality aiming for another place; he does this a lot in rallies too where the balls goes to a different direction you expect it to go to.

The good old times. When the ball was smaller and spin played an important role. When TT was played from hand and arm because the floor was slippery, sometimes wood, and you could not jump around like today. When players had to combine brain and decent physics. When, unfortunately, the game was mostly hidden from the spectators. Nowadays, it’s pure athletics but, yes, for the regular audience it looks more spectacular.

@dickn.ormous1064

3 жыл бұрын

Banana flicking every serve doesn't look spectacular and certainly doesn't take much athleticism otherwise Harimoto wouldn't be a master at 14yo .

@wolfganghuss3352

3 жыл бұрын

in this time you can do this ..under the arm ... you cant see what coming ..i do this in this time too !!! but the regular changed ..and than its illegal when you do this ... more time later you can play with vh and RH in red ... and stampfen dazu ...nobody see and heard what comeing ... (one side with long noppen)

The original "You got Served"

J-O Waldner, best swedish table tennis-player that have been existed. Well, according to his accomplishments, he is one of the best. He should be amongst the top 10 in the world. I mean look at it. Swedish championships, gold medals and silver medals only from 1988-2010. That says alot. And yeah, most gold then silver during the time. That means, he was good even if the "hide the ball"-shit services was illegal in the sports. So nope, it was not his services that was his biggest weapon. It was his skills. Period.

@Natureforce8

6 жыл бұрын

If you look at achievements, he is the third or fourth best player of all time in table tennis. I think the third best. Anyway, he is the only European in the top 5 best of all time.

@jakeyn8301

5 жыл бұрын

gamerke X what about Timo Boll

@ecke9635

Жыл бұрын

@@jakeyn8301 not even close

GENIUS!

The best there was, the best that is ever going to be.

I miss when we could serve under our arm like this. It looked so cool and set up all kinds of crazy possibilities. If you ask me Table Tennis started going straight to hell with the 11 pt games and the nerfed serve rules. I got on board with the 40mm ball because even though it was awkward at first, you did have a lot more control eventually. But yeah, Table Tennis pre 2000 was the best. I haven't played in 5 years, so I guess....they have different materials for the ball now? And it feels different?

@RalphHund

Жыл бұрын

Now it's all about being the best robot.

Happy to serve

^^ everyone struggle like there's no tomorrow and Jan Ove Waldner played like it's a walk in the park...what a rascal, but in a good way... XD 😉👍

He is the reason why this type of service got banned... #legend

@hanshuang6438

3 жыл бұрын

LGL is

@dickn.ormous1064

2 жыл бұрын

@@hanshuang6438 LGL lost to nobodies in the 2001 WTTC while the old serve rules were stil in effect.

@hanshuang6438

2 жыл бұрын

@@dickn.ormous1064 So the bronze medal winner of 2001 WTTC is nobody. How interesting.

@hanshuang6438

2 жыл бұрын

@@dickn.ormous1064 Also I wonder how would you comment on the fact that Waldner didn't even reach as far as LGL in 2001 WTTC?

@dickn.ormous1064

Жыл бұрын

@@hanshuang6438 He lost to Chiang Peng.Waldner even at 36 still won all his matches in Teams whereas LGL warmed the bench after losing to a Dutch lefty who was ranked 150 in the World.

Very fast ,well done

He is so cool

c'est un des seul aux monde voir le seul a faire des aces en quantité c"est un génie !!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Respect...

much more than beautiful....

what a service

大好き！ワルドナー😍

the ever green tree :-)

卓球の神🐱✨

Excelebt!!!!

The era when hiding the serve was legal. It would have been easier for the opponents to pick these serves at present time. You can see the videos of Ma Long doing the same in serve without hiding it.

@Ander01SE

4 жыл бұрын

He was the complete package, not just serve. Defense, offensive, ball placement and innovative, always keeping the opponent guessing. kzread.info/dash/bejne/aqF8y5WSpsupdJc.html kzread.info/dash/bejne/iJlktaN-dMWfg6Q.html

They all just got "served" by God!

@nunezlover43

6 жыл бұрын

pbsmick hell yeah

@boybadbang8228

4 жыл бұрын

They were before the hidden serve is illegal

@nerminhuskic7182

4 жыл бұрын

@@boybadbang8228 He isn't playing for years :/

What i find amazing is his calm hiding an inferno ! Waldner body language should be studied in depth ...a lot to learn .

FINALLY!!!!!!!!!

King Of Table Tennis!

2:21 oh wow!

Bester Spieler aller Zeiten!

Good receive block and topspin

Very god your serve

2:48 was this like the first GoPro or something? Neat shot for the era.

Ahaha 2:37, anyone notice the man in the yellow top in the crowd, just above Waldner worshipping him!

Liu Guoliang todas esas partidas el las devolvía y además con remache

even i f it's not hidden it's hard to read

WOW

icon

I forgot this was an old video and got confused at 0:23 when the score was 19 to 10

He Is realtà Grest player!

Extremly hidden services!

@jperssonisthebest

10 жыл бұрын

they are correct tho

@mariusatyt

10 жыл бұрын

in those times this was legal to serve like this.

@jperssonisthebest

10 жыл бұрын

im aware of that Marshall17101972 ;)

@miltontordas

10 жыл бұрын

Gatien, lindh, Legout, Ding Yi and rosskopf were all players that were hiding the serves as much as Waldner. Waldner is the king of service because he was always variating his with a lot of topspin or with a lot of backspin while he made it look like it was the opposite spin

@gustavmardby9364

10 жыл бұрын

M Tordas ikr i mean look at 2:19!

seems like he blocks view of ball when serving. The ball drops behind his non serving arm. Anyone have any input on this?

So, basicly hes faking a diagonal serve by instead hitting the ball under his arm with the same techique.

Its good that you cant hide your serve anymore

I lost count of how many serves he uses

Ha,ha it was only Jörgen Persson who smiling when he was out of space.

Mah point.

Please slow motion videos

1:26 the Chinese behind smile kkkkkkkkkk

He's an alien! =P

38㎜ボールでの21点制でサービス5本交代でハイドサーブがありな卓球がラージボールみたいな別の種目で復活して欲しいな。

@DaigoParry

9 ай бұрын

Same. It's like it's not the same game anymore. It doesn't feel the same. :( They should do it like racing. Different classes of car racing. GT2, LMP1 class of cars, open wheelers.

dudes, you obviously dont know the rules back then. Hidden services were allowed everybody did that, its just that servers like waldner ma lin or liu guoliang had much more fantasy and creativity. Schlager also!

Now Sweden have SILVER in WM 2019! FALCK!

genius

Why was he so strong? I think many people who don't know table tennis well couldn't understand the reason .

@vika0194

9 жыл бұрын

strong? it is about skill and technique

That time these serves were legal but these days they aren't anymore.

hidden service rules... can you share some more light on it !!!

@chandiego

9 жыл бұрын

Ujjval Verma In the old table tennis times, this was legal. But yeah, you're right.

@RickAnderson1

9 жыл бұрын

before the new service rules went into affect a few yrs ago you used to be able to hide the point of contact...when the ball hit your paddle during a serve....and by not seeing the point of contact it was harder for the receiver to read the spin...since he never got to see what spin was imparted on the ball

Hoje em dia sim, a regra mudou em 2000 eu acho

Jagoan euy

Many a times he used to hide point of contact behind his left hand

Sorry I dont know much about table tennis, but why dont his opponents stand in the middle of the table to defend his possible services on the other side?

@bentonxavier5094

9 жыл бұрын

so the opponent has more space to play a forehand on the open part of the table

Waldner is the best 'gweilo' to have ever played the game.

Since the winning points of the set have been reduced to 11 from 21 I think that it the best call ittf could take by making these services illegal.Losing some points from serves back then is not the same as now with the 11 points required.

@righthandside1372

10 жыл бұрын

Agree with you 100%

Mozart! ❤️💯

Combination with his third ball attack.

I don't know much about tt but dont you have to serve onto the exact opposite side of the derver

@pruthivip8217

8 жыл бұрын

Server*

@lennythecat5870

8 жыл бұрын

nope

@lennythecat5870

8 жыл бұрын

it isnt like tennis

não é proibido esconder a bolinha do adversário ? in table tennis is not wrong keep the ball ?

@trazck

10 жыл бұрын

Essa regra é mais recente que os videos mostrados.

@samme79

10 жыл бұрын

Before you can hide the way you serve.. Now they changed it so that you cant

Iunno how I got here, but these serves make me sick. What a player.

wouldn't the serve on the 35 second illegal? he was covering the ball with his left hand.

il resteras le maitre pour toujours..même une armée de chinois ne peuvent le dépasser..

Miss old TT, I stopped watching it after they killed the craft by nerfing the rules to try and make it more rallies. Any proper fan would still enjoy the art, pongers just need to accept it's not going to be more popular outside of Asia whatever they do - people turned off by serving skill and the mental side of the game should go and play crown green bowling or darts. Same happened in Tennis making balls heavier, less pressure, bigger. I still enjoy hidden serves playing with friends and it's where the fun is.

We are not worthy! A god!

Its GrandPa Serve))

Why didnt the others just do the same instead of QQ and make rules changed ?

why illegal? the oppenent can do it too....its just about the skill. if both side can do it , why not"?

Claramente o braço encobrindo a visão (0:43) dificulta que o adversário perceba a tempo em que direção vai a bola.

@paulodecanini2902

3 жыл бұрын

Na época dele era legal, esconder o saque se tornou ilegal por conta de waldner

serves not allowed today;(

Nowadays only Par Gerell is allowed to do these serves.

Isn’t the serve at 0:56 illegal because of the arm

@sadrobot5501

Жыл бұрын

Not back then

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