James O'Brien meets Zeinab Badawi | LBC
Zeinab Badawi is an award-winning broadcaster, journalist and the President of SOAS University of London. Born in Sudan, she has worked in the British media for several decades. She has recently published her first book which promises to reshape our understanding of Africa. Zeinab tells James what led her to write her instant Sunday Times bestseller, An African History of Africa.
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I am from South Africa and growing up during apartheid I was aware of the fact that we were taught as little as possible about African history. The BBC series on the history of Africa, hosted by Zeinab, was one of the best history series I have seen, presented by an extraordinary woman.
@MJ-qc2zh
Ай бұрын
Check out the documentary Africa by Basil Davidson & the book titled When We Ruled by Robin Walker. Phenomenal human history.
@theblackstarnews9448
Ай бұрын
It's much more than that. There were Africans before Europeans or any other people existed. All other people were people who left Africa about 100,000 years ago and then over a period of about 30,000 years through climactic and environnental adaptation became Europeans, Asians and so forth
@vsedai
26 күн бұрын
@@theblackstarnews9448 Fun fact: up until about 9000 years ago there was only dark skin. So all the folks who discovered fire and made stone tools were dark. I am a US citizen and I just learned this in the last 10 years. My teacher in grad school told that he could not find any pictures where the 'cave men' are Black. I was so surprised. Check out the Cheddar Man.
@wayneb.johnson7573
25 күн бұрын
Read the book, "From Babylon to Timbuktu.." It's an incredibly informative read.
@wayneb.johnson7573
25 күн бұрын
🟥🟩⬛️✨️✨️✨️💖 KING SOLOMON. ___The Song of Solomon, the wise man. The words of Solomon, the son of David, to his friends: "I am black, but comely [graceful] oh ye daughters of Jerusalem. Look not upon me because I am black as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon. " Here Solomon describes his color to be as beautiful as the tents of Kedar, whose tents were made of black goat's hair... ✨️✨️💖✨️✨️
Her series on ancient African civilisation kept me mesmerised while at the same time furious, furious by the fact that the lie of Africans not having any form of ancient civilisation, which is unfortunately perpetuated in African schools, including the one I went to, was being told confidently and is still being told. I am thrilled to see the narrative changing through people like her and many others before her on a factual basis, not mere fables. Well done! Also, well done, James, for being bold enough to acknowledge that you had to unlearn quite a few falsehoods you have learned in the past, which is the mark of integrity!
@GogoDiop1
Ай бұрын
Which school did you attend to say that
@PatriciaAQ
Ай бұрын
@@GogoDiop1Dom Helder Camara - Pointe-Noire. I hope that provides you with much-needed info ❤
@GogoDiop1
Ай бұрын
@@PatriciaAQ mbote ma soeur. Nous on nous a appris au Sénégal l'histoire de l'Afrique. L'empire du Ghana Mali Songhai Kush Aksum et Kemet. Cst pq je demandais ou est ce que tu as appris pour dire que on nous apprend pas l'histoire de l'Afrique.
@PatriciaAQ
Ай бұрын
@@GogoDiop1mboté mon frère😊, vous avez été très chanceux, malheureusement ce n’a pas été le cas pour nous
@GogoDiop1
Ай бұрын
@@PatriciaAQ je comprends on a eu beaucoup de chance. Moi j'ai eu a lire Teophile Obenga, mais cst dommage qu'on a pas eu beaucoup d'ouvrages sur l'Afrique centrale et l'Afrique Australe.
James O’Brien thanks for inviting the honorable journalist Zaineb Badawi into your show,I respect you both.
@jackiefrances3272
Ай бұрын
Absolutely fantastic
@MJ-qc2zh
Ай бұрын
He needs to get Robin Walker for a 2+ hour discussion on Africa.
James O’Brien has a very big heart , kind man and what a beautiful brilliant interview , thank you
Zainab’s BBC history of Africa series was absolute amazing! It’s here on YT for anyone interested
@eggedon6112
23 күн бұрын
Yes, everyone should Netflix and chill this series...
Thank you for this! As an African American, I believe we must be a global people and understanding our history pre-colonialism is the way
@harvestcanada
Ай бұрын
I went to the so called Africa Day at the SOAS in central London, she is the head of the university, and it was mostly white with black liberals who didn't really get what they were really doing there, and trust me there are African female Professors who refuse to countenance the idea of re-establishing pre-colonial institutions, especially where African Women had some form of power that was central to the stability of their respective societies in many different spheres of influence. There are plenty of books that deal with the social history of African societies across the continent, in an in-depth way. Zainab Badawi, is a black liberal and promotes black neo liberal agenda. I went simply to hear what was going on in respect to updating my knowledge about the Africa and Africans in the present.
@Kango62
Ай бұрын
My friend even that what you said is a problem in the black community "african American" toy should say African and not African American because the Chinese who born in America won't say they're Chinese American.
@harvestcanada
Ай бұрын
@@Kango62 You lot left me with a legacy of powerlessness and ineptitude, all you do is talk, talk, talk.:(
@demetriusbriscoe9814
Ай бұрын
@@Kango62 we do have a Chinese American community , who call themselves Chinese Americans lol. I am an American but a decedent of Africa, which makes me a African American
@annemikestuurland1082
Ай бұрын
@@Kango62 The European is not even from America and call them self Americans without tell the European name.
Repatriate the artefacts not only from Western Museums but from Western Families who also have obtained African artefacts by nefarious means.
@MJ-qc2zh
Ай бұрын
Yup, it’s pure disrespect to human & African history
As a Sudanese British American lol, a someone with hyphenated cultures, I love Zeinab’s book, and how important Africa’s history is to the world. Some of the scholars she mentioned, I used for my thesis during my master’s degree’s studies in the US and now my doctoral studies, too. The world is really ‘missing out’ on our history and the great civilizations we had in Africa that predates colonialism in the continent.
@bigthangz5489
Ай бұрын
can we re-establish these marvellous civilizations.
@anyetitan8410
29 күн бұрын
Stop amassing certs and go help your people.
@MaryJaneJones.
28 күн бұрын
How can you be all of that? You're sudanese with a British or American passport?
@Vhlathanosh
27 күн бұрын
You are either Sudanese Brit or Sudanese American.
@lateiro6845
25 күн бұрын
A Sudanese British American?! Are u fcking kidding me?! 🤣 Now i know how crazy it sounds to say “African American” LOL.
Such a lovely moment when O'Brien tells her not to take the negative review to heart. He's really such a kind hearted person.
@jamesmcneil5760
Ай бұрын
We are told that very same thing in America, except that it is a bit more inhumane. We are told to get over it.
@betbet9596
Ай бұрын
Any time I hear “get over it” I wonder about all the African who were killed and being killed all over the world knowing they can’t get over death. Therefore people of African descent worldwide will never just “get over it”.
Zenaib Bedawi is a complete role model for many of us Africans. As a Ghanaian-British I am so proud of her
@naledimaani1535
15 күн бұрын
As-tu déjà essayé de t'asseoir sur deux chaines en même temps, est-ce seulement possible ? C'est ça votre "As a Ghanaian British", chercher à s'asseoir sur deux chaises à la fois.
This is the book ive been waiting for....thank you Zeinab Bdawi ❤
Great conversation. I am a Jamaican and I truly appreciate the fact that Africa is more than slaves .Africa was a real rich colony but was never challenged,because Britain and all are forced to see themselves as the real cannibals of our oppressed countries
@eggedon6112
23 күн бұрын
Africa is a continent consisting of many languages, religions, etc., not a colony. Her series on Africa is very educational and free on YT.
It's incredible since Africa is the cradle of civilization that Europeans have written thousands of books stating it's the "Dark Continent." People worldwide have been propagandized, miseducated and lied to about the history and greatness of Africa and Africans. The foregone conclusion is that it was Africans who laid the foundation for the civilization of the world. The first Greek philosopher, Thales, when to Africa for his education. He and other Greek philosophers encouraged their students to go to Africa for education. Those are facts that cannot be refuted by anyone worthy of the name.
@lammuri
28 күн бұрын
George Orwell wrote that the best way to destroy a people is to deny or destroy their understanding of their own history. Europeans knew what they were doing to Africans.
@davidlamb7524
20 күн бұрын
Thales went to Egypt and there is evidence he may have gone to Babylonia to study mathematics. To my knowledge he never visited Sub-Saharan Africa. Do you have any links ?
@Humanity2102
20 күн бұрын
@@davidlamb7524 What is "sub Sahara" Africa?????
@davidlamb7524
20 күн бұрын
@@Humanity2102 I am of course referring to Africa below the Sahara desert which is what early European writers were referring to as " The Dark Continent" It was rather describing their lack of knowledge of the bulk of the African continent. The 'darkness' was theirs. Not the Africans per se. It was symbolic of the unknown. It was later reinterpreted in a more derogatory sense as a land of ignorance. Current claims made for an enlightened Africa tend to mostly refer to North African states such as Egypt, Phoenicia and Babylon. Of course there were many African civilizations as Zeinab has demonstrated in her TV series. I have yet to read her book but it's on my list. I would wait for the spoken version if it is her reading it.
When an hour flies by quickly without noticing, you know that's a great interview.
Well done Zaineb and James from 🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲🇯🇲
As an African Caribbean/ 😅 British citizen, I am very proud of this author, for this reason; we were formerly known as an oral people. That was because many could not interpret our art work. Well done my daughter.
A million THANKS Zeinab Badawi for your immense contribution through this brilliant project and thank you tremendously James O’Brian for your generous accessibility to this incredible information on your platform! Bravo to both of You!
What an amazing interview James! Thank you so much for brining Zainab Badawi, my children and I are eager to read your book.
Brilliant interview. Being of a similar background/disposition Anglo/African I have always admired Ms. Badawi. Met her in my African neck of the woods, i.e. Gambia during our recent transnational period after dictatorship. The way is paved and she is one who has taken a huge step in the way. Inspirational in many ways since C4 news when we had only seen Moira Stewart. More to come from her I'm sure. All positive. Thanks you Ms. Badawi its all noticed and very appreciated from the African community in the UK.
Wonderful to hear someone as intelligent and respectful as Zeinab Badawi representing the voice of Sudanese 🇸🇩 who like the Palestinians, Congolese etc, also deserve to know the world is aware of their suffering and that by exposing more their circumstances, something could be done urgently with the support of people marching in the name of those who are hand tide or voiceless.
@eggedon6112
23 күн бұрын
We must have peace in this world, permanent peace.
Wow! What a wonderful way to spend a hour (he says 45 minutes into the interview). Lightbulb moment: there is a her-story, beyond & equal to history.
I come from Eritrea at the age of 16 in late 80 's. & to see zeineb on TV was fascinating. I watch her African travel, after a very very long time, (as I don't watch TV anymore!) I even think I knew her more & I loved her down to earth approach. I can't wait to read her book. BTW she still looks fantastic after all this years
The pandemic introduced me to this accomplished woman.The Africa series enthralled and educated me.
@eggedon6112
23 күн бұрын
Me, too 😀
This is such a wonderful interview, I must buy this book not just for myself but for the benefit of my grand daughter.
I have been a massive fan of Zeinab since I first saw her doing interviews in the early 1990's on Channel 4. Human life started in Africa 150,000 [roughly] years ago. The Europeans dominated Africa for the last 500 years. This is a blink of an eye in terms of African history.
@LK-ho1dg
13 күн бұрын
Great point, but Europeans did NOT not dominate Africa for the last 500 years! With a few exception (i.e. Angola) since the 15th century Europeans mainly built coastal trading/refreshment settlements and hardly ventured into the interior until the 1800s. Much of Africa was colonised during the "scramble for Africa" (1885-1914) AFTER the Berlin conference 1884-1885. Most of Africa was under colonial rule for around 70 years, a tiny blip in our history. 🙏
@TranquiloTrev
12 күн бұрын
@@LK-ho1dg There are many books written about Neo-colonialism in Africa. You should read some of them.
@LK-ho1dg
12 күн бұрын
@@TranquiloTrev There are many books about the European scramble for Africa should read some of them.
Fascinating conversation, I think the book should be introduced in Africa schools because we don't know much about our history, just heard some things from her for the first time .
@eggedon6112
23 күн бұрын
Whatever it takes.👍🏾
Lady meets my expectations by reeling off a long list of African scientists and explorers.
@AA-yc8yr
4 күн бұрын
Really? African scientists? Where? The whole continent had only two instances of written records, bar the Egyptians. No alphabet, no writing, yet 'scientists'? Get out of here with the idiotic re-writing of history to fit with your massive shoulder chips.
Thanks Mr O’Brian for inviting this Arab African treasure. Was very happy that she touched on Western narratives on “ our” women are not educated and also that Africa has no history !!!! Thank you Zaineb ! Felt vey proud of you. Greetings to you and James from a Yemeni 🇾🇪 brother
@soumailakonate9861
10 күн бұрын
Arab African??????
@buzzing8365
10 күн бұрын
@@soumailakonate9861 she is from Sudan and they are considered as Arabic speaking Africans
@soumailakonate9861
10 күн бұрын
Ok thk
@Galatians3_13
5 күн бұрын
@@buzzing8365 well the fact that they speak Arab, doesn't make them Arab in just the same way as Nigerians or Ghanaians don't suddenly become English because they speak the colonial language. She doesn't describe herself as Arab so let's stop with this. She said she's Sudanese and British! End of
Thank you James. What a wonderful discussion
Thank you for the insightful interview. I have always wondered what happened to the enormous chapter that is the history of Africa. I hate how much our colonial heritage has limited our view on fascinating histories and cultures.
Thank you Zeinab for your great contribution to African history. Indeed, the world should know that the foundations of Ancient Egypt is Black Africa. The lies and revisionist history must now be corrected and the truth be told ...
I’ll definitely read your book. Thanks James for who you are. Hand to hand for a better world.
Africa had history so rich and so phenomenal that they don’t want to talk about it.
@jb2736
19 күн бұрын
Yet, the West cherish and covent African Artifact, as their own possessions of worth to exploit and generate wealth displaying in their museums. 🤔🙄
An advocate for Black women of the world Zeineb 👌🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽You are our future 🙌🏽🙏🙌🏽🙏🙌🏽🙏🙏🏿🙏🏿
Thank you James for this intelligent interview!
As a Sudanese, I'm so proud of Zeinab. She is firmly grounded in both science and ethics. But much more impressive is how she can masterfully embrace both African and European identities and maintain a beautiful balance. I hope she can inspire young people of all creeds to follow her fine example. I'm not a scholar, but as a Sudanese who lived in the US and the UK, what she professes resonates so much with some of my own observations. I wish I get an opportunity to discuss with her someday.
When Zainab speaks you better listen to what she has to say. Much respect ❤
This book is a must read for me. Thanks for this interview
The fabulous Zeinsb Badawi - used to watch her on C4 news years ago but wasn’t aware of her full story - such a polymath !
Elegant, eloquent lady ❤
I will be buying this book for my granddaughter & she's 3 years old - obviously to be read when suitably of age.
In 2024 here in America, school children are taught that African history began with slavery. Not only did it “save” us from our pagan ways it also benefited us because it taught us useful skills. I know better, I have been a student of African/African-American history for decades. I do my best to educate others.
@rosam674
Ай бұрын
I got to learn that many of the people enslaved brought with them superior skills in diverse fields. And that is what seeded the success story of the USA, allowing it to bypass Europe. How could such highly skilled people come from no civilization? Surely. The lies peddled about Africa really hurt. Unfortunately, many people who have never interacted with Africans still believe them. We have a lot of work to undo the damage done to Africa by colonizers
@safeenachoud1903
Ай бұрын
👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👏🏿👍🏿
@stacycarlton2056
Ай бұрын
Seriously had a co-worker the other(half the room agreed with her)day who told me the reason why Jamaicans/Caribbeans and African-Americans sound the way they do is because of Irish heritage like it was hard to give the more than 85% of us who have been raised as a black ppl culturally with our own linguistic ancestry the credit for regional accents sometimes when I here ppl talk like that it makes me realize how white washed the world is history wise. Most privileged ppl won't look into it because it makes more sense not to for them just to keep there charred of global importance going
@eggedon6112
23 күн бұрын
Thank you for sharing your knowledge. Change is here.
Thank you Zeinab for the amazing historical journey. I watched the series and also read the book...it has really given me a lot of historical facts I did not even think about in Africa.🙏
And here's the very best thing ... Zeinab Badawi is such a wonderful example of a cultured, classy lady born in a vibrant and amazing continent, who will make all peoples sit up and take notice of a history of Africa with new interest.
Bought the book for an Afrikan friend and his family in Tanzania… I’ve exported 300 plus books on Afrikan “OurStory” past and current achievers that the world has been miseducated to overlook 🙏🏽
She’s a revolutionary to me! Thank you for hosting her.
Zainab is an inspiration.
I loved this! Thank you so much for bringing this to the forefront!
Absolutely brilliant interview James . Well done to my Sudanese sister we are proud of you ..
James, thank you for inviting Zienab. Her finding of African history is eye opening. I never taken face value of western historians about Africa.
She is such a remarkable and well accomplished journalist.
"Africa is the repository of knowledge and yet the material knowledge, some 95% of this, is held outside of the continent." - Zeinab Badawi
She is a legend role models women 🎉❤
Thank you both for this most educational program.
Great job Zeinab! Thank you for making us proud. You have always been my favourite news presenter. Will buy and read your book.
Great interview with an amazing lady. Thanks, Zeinab. I can’t wait to read your book. I’m getting copies for my nieces and nephews. Blessings!
Thanks for this incredible interview...
Zeinab is a brilliant Historian. loved her documentaries and looking to read her book.
@Galatians3_13
5 күн бұрын
She's not a historian, which makes her work even more remarkable. She's a brilliant journalist with a particular interest in African history.
Every African should watch her series...and it must be shown in the schools. Will be showing it to my grandchildren and their friends when I go home!
We are buying the book today for our own little family of 4! Thanyou Zeinab!
Among other things, setting people straight on educated Muslim women. Reading all of the histories of Africa is enriching. Want to read her book and see the series, and widen my knowledge base as a Black American with African, Native Indigenous, and European ancestors.
I have always admired her broadcast journalism and plan to read the book!
A VERY inspiring piece 🙏🏽
Thank you for a great podcast I learned so much. I will have get this book. Thanks James.
Rock on James. T & T's Fan
This is so wonderful ❤
Looking forward to reading. Thank you.
I’ve got to wait for the audio version. I’m losing my eyesight but I can’t wait.
Zainab is a living image of Queen Tiye, grand mother of Tutankhamun. The original north East African phenotype of the Queens and Pharaohs of Kemet and Kush. Now however, the same detractors who claim Africans are rewritting history, are simultaniously writing Africans out of History. Despite the faces on the great Sphinx and Royals who commissioned the Pyramid resembling indigenous Africans. They denied Africans had the mental capacity to construct the Pyramids. They denied Africans constructed great Zimbabwe and claimed the Ile Ife bronzes of Nigeria were apparently of Greek origin. And now anything to do with Africa and Africans is censored as Afrocentrist.
Am here for Zeinab Badawi ❤😊
❤❤❤❤❤ This should be available in every school around the world .
Great interview. Thank you!
Great interview. What a remarkable lady…inspirational ❤
Proud of you from Ghana
Another excellent British female journalist born in Africa. Reminds me of another who was recently on LBC. What happened to her?...
@cbtube1677
Ай бұрын
Where is she??
@grace_2022
29 күн бұрын
Britain
@PauloAdriano-zo2ng
28 күн бұрын
@@cbtube1677 Locke up in the deep, dank cellars of the LBC studios no doubt.
Amazing woman well done
Breath of fresh air! Thanks Zeinab!
This was one of the most intelligent and insightful interviews that I’ve ever had the pleasure to watch. I was riveted from beginning to end. Prior to this interview, I’ve never had the pleasure of knowing this gentleman. However, I’m now an enormous fan. He left a huge impression on me to say the least. The way he guided Mrs. Badawi throughout the interview with thoughtful care and due respect was a true masterclass. Job well done. I can’t tell you how much I’m looking forward to going through the vault of his previous interviews to find other gems such as this one. I know for certain that I’ll not be disappointed. In closing, Mrs. Badawi’s BBC mini-series on Africa was nothing short of brilliant. I learned a tremendous amount from each and every episode. I’m very much looking forward to purchasing Mrs. Badawi’s much needed book. Kudos to everyone involved for producing such quality work. Your efforts are greatly appreciated. Blessings! 🙏🏾
Do you agree that its about the time to rename british museum with Africans heritage and cultural museum because there's nothing about british in there. Without prejudice
@alostlove3336
28 күн бұрын
NO
@Vhlathanosh
27 күн бұрын
Rename? They should return them to their respective owners.
@muyadinmuyadin6133
27 күн бұрын
@@Vhlathanosh yes, they should these are stolen and looted items
Thanks for posting
I'm a big fan of Ambassador Zeinab Badawi....Can't wait for new history finds of African history...Queen of the Nile (nickname)
@Nigeria, beautifully written. Exposing our history in his true form is very admiring especially by an African. Some critics graduated from the school of self hating. If you are concern about her identity for you to authenticate her book, you are lost as an African. What has been your individual contribution to Africa as a critic, nothing.
Afrikan Queen Zeinab, i have nothing much to say to you with the Interview and more the book (which i am obviously going to lay my hands on and keep for Generations to come). I am Lesotho Native who lived in London for 15 years and i used to watch your Series on Afrika, which really used to uplift and revive me because the Afrika you showed was the one i knew and beyond, not what the West have portrayed us and still continue to. I moved back to Lesotho August 2023, as i was tired of the way Motherland & her Children depicted and demonised. As a Pan Afrikan i felt that pain and obligation to come and Awaken and enlighten Afrikans back home ( as i learn from great Afrikans like you) of The Greatness of our Ancestors from back in Kemit, Until Moors & Westerner invasions/Slavery/Colonisation. Danko= Thank u= Kea leboha (in my language Sesotho)
Another top-notch interview. Thank you both.
This is a great conversation. I feel that in addition to Afrians knowledge of history, African Americans need to have knowledge also.
Wonderful interview. Especially noted how James encouraged Zeinab to ignore petty book reviews. Inspired to explore African history!
Im glad this ended up on my feed. Excellent interview, amazing questions and I have learned a lot more about Zambia, and Africa through this. I plan to get her book and already have tabs open with the names dropped. Much appreciated. You gained a new follower.
I remembered that I watched her series couple years ago really amazing, thank you Zeinab Badawi looking forward to read the book
This was nice, loved the series, I met her in London and she’s absolutely brilliant. Thanks dude!
I have pre-ordered your book. A wonderful conversation. Thank you. Best wishes.
Fantastic interview. Thank you so, so much. Peace and love
Such an informative and clear and interesting interview .i love it
I watched a few of your BBC documentaries and ruled you out! Nevertheless, in this interview, I seem to have fallen in LOVE with your intellect. I must read your book. Thank you Zeinab🙏🏿
Turtle Island had a history thousands of years before the Europeans arrival also. Now it’s been colonized and given the title the USA.
When we talk about history, Human history, it is predominantly African. Europe doesn't show up in history until 800BC. That's yesterday, Europe is breaking news.
A number of the African American authors were actually from the Caribbean or wider Commonwealth . For example, George G. M. James - Guyana, JA Rogers was from Jamaica and Ivan Van Sertima who was from Guyana. I would also refer to Cheik Anta Diop and his student Theophile Obenga.
Every single human being, alive or dead, is of mixed origin.
Well yeah considering it was the birth place of homosapians who then left Africa and spread to every continent around the world. All of Africa had civilisations, most famous being the Egyptians etc. In the south and east like the ancient city of Benin. Then the Europeans destroyed them all, plundered it and brought their barbaric ways. Look what Christian’s did to ancient Britain which was a beautiful place before they came along.
This was such a fantastic conversation and I look forward to reading the book!
Brilliant woman. Thanks for having her on James.