Jak and Daxter - Why Did It Change So Much? (Jak and Daxter Discussion)

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  • @Tigressa101
    @Tigressa1017 жыл бұрын

    The sequel was the result of people constantly complaining that it was too easy. So NaughtyDog reacted by creating Jak ll, one of the hardest platform games of 2003. Moral of the story: be careful what you wish for.

  • @CelianAscended

    @CelianAscended

    7 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @Rachebart

    @Rachebart

    4 жыл бұрын

    lol

  • @brian576

    @brian576

    3 жыл бұрын

    people thought Jak II was hard?

  • @brian576

    @brian576

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Treymarr Faucie I dont remember any mission that was particularly hard. Do you have a particular mission in mind that is of the pure cancer type?

  • @NeoRyck

    @NeoRyck

    3 жыл бұрын

    I see what you did there with the "be careful what you wish for" quote

  • @normwelthagen367
    @normwelthagen3679 жыл бұрын

    Jak 2 is what got me hooked on Playstation 2.

  • @nickmythong8908

    @nickmythong8908

    8 жыл бұрын

    it got me hooked on the the jak and daxter franchise

  • @Alex.Mihailovic

    @Alex.Mihailovic

    7 жыл бұрын

    norm welthagen L

  • @reach7020
    @reach70208 жыл бұрын

    Jak II is the only time in gaming history where choosing to go "edgy" with an already established family friendly game worked gloriously.

  • @duckduckgoose8049

    @duckduckgoose8049

    5 жыл бұрын

    It didn't work for me. I tried, I really did. I just missed the gameplay of the first one too much to get into Jak II.

  • @Agent-yw1kj

    @Agent-yw1kj

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nah, that was a bad decision as well

  • @samoslich8131

    @samoslich8131

    4 жыл бұрын

    Nah, Jak 2 II and 3 were HUGE missteps. The original game is amazing and legendary and the sequels are... forgettable at best.

  • @Agent-yw1kj

    @Agent-yw1kj

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@samoslich8131 Yeah. It would have worked better if jak 2 and jak 3 were part of a new OG IP

  • @1meme985

    @1meme985

    4 жыл бұрын

    I like how the minority says the sequels are forgettable at best, when the majority literally always talk about how much they loved the sequels, and constantly forget that the first game was nothing like them.

  • @tristan0312ify
    @tristan0312ify8 жыл бұрын

    Jak & Daxter: The Precursor Legacy was the best!

  • @misterbandip0wer753

    @misterbandip0wer753

    8 жыл бұрын

    I liked Jak when he didn't talk and wasn't pumped with a bunch of dark Eco. When I was a little boy I always used to compare myself to Jak because he was too shy to speak and so am I

  • @A_Random_Rat

    @A_Random_Rat

    3 жыл бұрын

    Mister BandiP0wer75 Maybe you should grow up with Jak and learn to be more out there, and talk more.

  • @xerenzank4786

    @xerenzank4786

    3 жыл бұрын

    For me it was jak 2

  • @Fools_Travels
    @Fools_Travels9 жыл бұрын

    can one simply say they enjoyed all of the games for their childhood? i though of the jak series as a huge tale. and the mechanics of the game reflected the story.

  • @IorvethTheXolo

    @IorvethTheXolo

    9 жыл бұрын

    Tristan Paulson I can! I loved all three. Obviously, I have my preference, which is the feel of the 2nd and 3rd games but it doesn't mean I don't also love the simplicity and innocence of the first one.

  • @Alex-444x94
    @Alex-444x949 жыл бұрын

    Its not really a mystery naughty dog have explained he change in a few interviews... They simply wanted him to mature and grow up a bit and be more aware of the danger that surrounded him. And as the devs grow up they wanted to work ona mature title.. Thats why theyre making titles like the last of us and uncharted now...

  • @Alex-444x94

    @Alex-444x94

    9 жыл бұрын

    they started creation of jak 4 but went with a very realistic vibe that they though wouldnt do it justice so they scrpped it... for now...

  • @philty748

    @philty748

    9 жыл бұрын

    alex nanton there just making excuses they can easily make another jak game there just being lazy

  • @Alex-444x94

    @Alex-444x94

    9 жыл бұрын

    phil ty they could literally use the same engine and just refine textures for 1080p and i wouldnt are

  • @progste

    @progste

    9 жыл бұрын

    django chubbinz I hope if they ever do it that they keep it colorful and cartoony like the others instead of falling into the common trap of "realism at all costs" that so many big developers seem to chase nowadays.

  • @thedaveanderson

    @thedaveanderson

    9 жыл бұрын

    progste I'm a pretty big fan of having really realistic games. But I agree with the fact that it's sucking the diversity out of games. What I really want, is a good 3rd person platformer with super crisp controls. Jak is a good example...uncharted can be a bit loosey-goosey (still like it tho)

  • @_Glamor
    @_Glamor9 жыл бұрын

    I personally LOVED the change. Jak 1 was fun to play, but 2 & 3 took the cake for me. The story felt like it expanded a lot more it had a more darker tone to it.

  • @JarelJay

    @JarelJay

    Жыл бұрын

    Especially 3

  • @ink1931
    @ink19319 жыл бұрын

    They shouldn't have called it Jak 2. It should've been called HiJak, amirite?

  • @hokage1997

    @hokage1997

    9 жыл бұрын

    BA DUM TSS

  • @saoisbad3158

    @saoisbad3158

    8 жыл бұрын

    Your profile picture fit perfectly with that comment

  • @myrkflinn4331

    @myrkflinn4331

    7 жыл бұрын

    XD was gonna say that Samiu haha

  • @takeastepback3333

    @takeastepback3333

    6 жыл бұрын

    Profile pic...surprisingly matches comment.

  • @Dagame51

    @Dagame51

    6 жыл бұрын

    Inkwell nah

  • @gabrielariassss
    @gabrielariassss3 жыл бұрын

    I like to think Jak 1 was a metaphor to childhood and Jak 2 a metaphor to growing up, noticing real life isn't as colorful as it used to be but still being able to find happiness

  • @carlosJinx
    @carlosJinx8 жыл бұрын

    I like to call Jak II "Jak Theft Auto", lol. I was surprised too, I mean, that was one big change, but, I have to say that it's one of my favorites.

  • @snapdraggon999gaming3

    @snapdraggon999gaming3

    6 жыл бұрын

    Carlos Guadalupe lol

  • @thewintersoldier8387

    @thewintersoldier8387

    4 жыл бұрын

    And Jak 3 was Mad max

  • @darkdaxter15
    @darkdaxter159 жыл бұрын

    I think the influence of Ratchet and Clank had something to do with the inclusion of firearms in Jaks 2 and 3.

  • @pronounjow
    @pronounjow8 жыл бұрын

    I thought the GTA influence was obvious...

  • @TheOnlyTristen

    @TheOnlyTristen

    8 жыл бұрын

    lol same didn't ever bother me.

  • @lbpotatoes9066

    @lbpotatoes9066

    8 жыл бұрын

    still pretty unique

  • @codacious14

    @codacious14

    7 жыл бұрын

    It was literally stated by the developer that they were going for the GTA 3 market.

  • @AxelReigns
    @AxelReigns9 жыл бұрын

    If you want a more drastic change, check out Saints Row 2 and Saints Row the Third, that is a very drastic change lol

  • @CaptainCJ97

    @CaptainCJ97

    9 жыл бұрын

    Yup

  • @V3X21

    @V3X21

    9 жыл бұрын

    Nah, I mean sure, that was drastic, but Saints Row has just been progressively been getting crazier throughout the series, and the overall formula kind of stayed the same in that. In J&D, it just completely changed after the first game.

  • @zacharyroach2067

    @zacharyroach2067

    9 жыл бұрын

    V3X21 No it didn't. The Formula was the same. They just changed the order. Like Y=X+Z. In Jak 2 they changed in to Z=Y-X. Same Formula. Different order of variables. Both Games still had the same core gameplay. Just instead of Collecting Orbs to play more missions like in the first one you played missions to get access to more areas to collect more orbs in the others ones. (Though the collecting part was opitonal in 2 and 3). And Yes of course they added new stuff in each sequel. Thats how games work. Games dont stay the same for each installment. If thats what they did they mind as well not even make a new game.

  • @V3X21

    @V3X21

    9 жыл бұрын

    Zachary Roach Not at all what I meant but OK.

  • @SuperGamer61499

    @SuperGamer61499

    8 жыл бұрын

    +V3X21 Well actually I think what they did was an example of an evolution franchise. Think about it why would it change so much you may ask simple as the audience grows so do their tastes in Gaming and I guess they thought that if the audience grows up so do they with their games so there you go for my theory. And think about it Naughty Dog was once probably a kid but once they got to Jak & Daxter 2 they became like a Teen and the games suddenly got more & more mature as they get older Uncharted I would say they were a Young Adult because I think of it like an Evolution Theory for Naughty Dog once they got to the TLOU they became an older adult and started to focus more on Story than Gameplay. So there you go I thought of a theory that could actually make sense why the company has changed so much with their games.

  • @SSP.L
    @SSP.L8 жыл бұрын

    Precursor legacy was my fave of them all, as it hade that classic collectable gameplay, and power cells for helping out villagers & such.. A Jak and Daxter 4 like the first one would be a dream come true for me and I'm sure a lot of you guys too

  • @elit3gam3r10

    @elit3gam3r10

    8 жыл бұрын

    ehhh, after JakX and The Lost Frontier, i just want Jak and Daxter back to how they use to LOOK.

  • @NickyDiesel

    @NickyDiesel

    8 жыл бұрын

    +ELiT3 GaM3R that's literally what that guy just said he wants

  • @elit3gam3r10

    @elit3gam3r10

    8 жыл бұрын

    King Nicholas No i literally meant how THEY LOOK, their appearance. Jak looks completely stupid in JakX and The Lost Frontier. They made them look to old and the voices for the lateset Jak games sucked.

  • @Tyrik73

    @Tyrik73

    6 жыл бұрын

    The Jak in Jak x is a year older than he was in Jak 3.

  • @Rachebart

    @Rachebart

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Tyrik73 only a year and he looked like shit in x and lost frontier.

  • @MadderCommotion
    @MadderCommotion9 жыл бұрын

    Obviously, GTA III had a huge impact on the Jak and Daxter franchise. The thing, is that Naughty Dog does games based on popular things for its time (when 3D platformers were popular, they made Crash Bandicoot; when zombies became popular, they make The Last of Us). Jak & Daxter 1 was developed in a time where Banjo 2 was the shit, and Jak 2 was developed when GTA III was the shit. Something similar happened to the Sonic series. When GTA was the shit, they gave Shadow some guns and a darker atmosphere and made Shadow The Hedgehog.

  • @tmonk98

    @tmonk98

    9 жыл бұрын

    lol.. I can't believe I just read this.

  • @MadderCommotion

    @MadderCommotion

    9 жыл бұрын

    tmonk98 Could you elaborate a little?

  • @tmonk98

    @tmonk98

    9 жыл бұрын

    Nothing to elaborate, this entire statement was just plain incorrect.

  • @MadderCommotion

    @MadderCommotion

    9 жыл бұрын

    tmonk98 Can you tell me WHY is incorrect?

  • @tmonk98

    @tmonk98

    9 жыл бұрын

    Where and why do you believe that GTA had any influence at all on these character designs? Maybe the artist was just thought up of a new design for when.jak got older. Plenty of characters go through the exact same thing. Saying that he changed it because of GTA III is just silly.

  • @random135246
    @random1352469 жыл бұрын

    I love Jak 2, it's actually the one I enjoy playing the most. But there's something special about the first one that pulls at that nostalgia. I feel they made the transition too early, and Jak 2 should have been the the third game. Too make such a huge change was bound to put off some people even if it was executed ( mostly) well.

  • @Hephaestus_God
    @Hephaestus_God8 жыл бұрын

    What i loved about jack 1 so much is that you weren't required to get all the power cells.. you could just get enough to get by which made wanting to collect all 100 that much more enjoyable and worth it, and by wanting to get all 100 you explored the world, talked to NPC's that you didn't have to if you just wanted to get to the end, and other cool stuff.. but in jack 2 you were basically forced to do every single mission.. you couldn't skip one, there weren't NPC's you could just go up and talk to, and it turned into a linear game where you never explored the world.. how many people just drove around the city just to look at stuff.. I can tell you that I didn't, and i'm pretty sure most people didn't as well.. besides the little challenges there was nothing to see, no hidden places to platform up to, no thrill of "could there be a power cell here from jack 1 or am i just wasting time", no environmental changes, etc.... To me it turned somewhat boring as i played on.. (Now don't get me wrong I love the game, and the whole jack series, but the feeling of jack 1 is something which made me love the game"

  • @DahSilliest

    @DahSilliest

    7 жыл бұрын

    jak*

  • @Hephaestus_God

    @Hephaestus_God

    7 жыл бұрын

    DarkestDawn2 Dawn :/

  • @SavageBolt

    @SavageBolt

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sorry if I sound a little offensive, but can't you read "Jak?" I really hate it when some people call him "Jack," and the same thing applies for Daxter if he gets called "Dexter."

  • @Hephaestus_God

    @Hephaestus_God

    7 жыл бұрын

    its pronounced the same way.. so it doesnt really matter, but I am just used to typing Jack that's why I accidentally did it that way

  • @SavageBolt

    @SavageBolt

    7 жыл бұрын

    Or maybe it does matter cause if you keep saying "Jack," then you're not a close/true fan.

  • @disfunctionalcyclist
    @disfunctionalcyclist9 жыл бұрын

    Jak 2 was the first Jak game I ever played and then I played 3, when the trilogy came out I tried 1 and wasn't to crazy about it... :P

  • @thechessclub8527

    @thechessclub8527

    2 жыл бұрын

    Jak and Daxter 1 was amazing as a kid

  • @McPatrick14
    @McPatrick147 жыл бұрын

    I played Jak 2 first and fell in love with it. I got The Precursor Legacy afterwards and was like "what in the fuck is this?" I guess it depends on where you started. Even as a little kid, I preferred the mature stylings of Jak 2 over the original.

  • @KSThoughtBubble
    @KSThoughtBubble8 жыл бұрын

    Dude, the reason is fuckin obvious, the game explain's that, first, jack is older, he has spent 2 years in jail, 2nd He has been subject to "dark force experiences" or some shit, and that actually explains his sudden (not so sudden since he has been in jail as I said before) change of personality.

  • @SuperKitty241
    @SuperKitty2418 жыл бұрын

    I remember being entirely surprised with Jak 2 especially when Jak spoke for the first time and I remember thinking it was super cool though unexpected I would say the only thing I was disappointed with in the series was the fact that most of the lore was sort of a mystery

  • @slevinkelevra6278
    @slevinkelevra62788 жыл бұрын

    I went from Jak 2 and Jak 3 to Jak and Daxter and was really surprised that it was so different. I had no idea it was going to be so different.

  • @tallgamerboy
    @tallgamerboy8 жыл бұрын

    The real difference was before jak II naughty dog only had 6 members, and the majority of problems they encountered they had the team head solve with particles, when they expanded and asked to join with sony, they had over 40 people on the team, which allowed for a lot more ideas to come forward, allowing for more stuff to happen in the game.

  • @brainer4194
    @brainer41949 жыл бұрын

    I think the change was completely necessary to continue the series, it's mainly the fact that there was an actual plot to be expanded on, and if Jak continued to be mute, it'd be really difficult to make the plot interesting with Daxter's sassiness carrying everything, the story needed a hero with somewhat of a character, or else it would've been more childish platforming and that would've been boring. Personally i'd love a next gen Jak by Naughty Dog, they showed a lot of potential for an interesting story and a well rounded game in Jak 3. Please no more zombie games and Uncharted..

  • @WillCawrse
    @WillCawrse8 жыл бұрын

    Even though Jak 1 and Jak 2 were very different, they were both still extremely great games

  • @denisgabriel4645
    @denisgabriel46458 жыл бұрын

    If you think about it, Sly Cooper 2 also changed a lot when compared to the first one, though not as much as Jak 2 of course...That's mostly because back then, games where slowly starting to become more Open-World style. Well, they're still becoming more Open-World in the present.

  • @MrOzzification

    @MrOzzification

    7 жыл бұрын

    Sly had much bigger changes in terms of gameplay. Jak had a bigger change in atmosphere and I guess target audience.

  • @denisgabriel4645

    @denisgabriel4645

    7 жыл бұрын

    jay kj Exactly, well said!

  • @brandornthegreatest9672
    @brandornthegreatest96729 жыл бұрын

    Jak 3 was my first ever video game. I find it super fun and challenge mode makes it harder for the people who get bothered by easy games. Jak 2 made me rage as a child took me 20 plus replays to finally beat it. I really liked the first one but Im not a collecting fest person but still amazing game.

  • @GameTheist
    @GameTheist9 жыл бұрын

    Anyone else think the first one was the best? 2 and 3 just didn't have the same feel and I couldnt really get into them

  • @Lamelaff

    @Lamelaff

    9 жыл бұрын

    I agree. It seems like everyone loves Jak2, but I prefer the first one. Jak2 just felt wrong to me and wasn't as enjoyable as the first one.

  • @metazoxan2

    @metazoxan2

    9 жыл бұрын

    I feel 2 and 3 had many good points but I feel the change was a bit too drastic. After playing Jack I played 2 and it felt like they were trying too hard to be serious. Like "OH LOOK! jack was all kidnapped and experimented on and now he's turning into a monster and OMG! He said he's going to kill someone! OH and you can kill people now!" so in the end it all just felt so forced. Also I didn't like how the Eco power thing was just scrapped for colored guns. Yeah you get the Dark transformation but didn't the first game keep saying that was a REALLY bad idea?

  • @TSW425

    @TSW425

    9 жыл бұрын

    I was about to say "HOW THE F*CK IS KH 1 BETTER THAN 2... and... 3?" Then I remembered that I was watching one of the 4 non KH related videos on this channel"

  • @thepoppets1052

    @thepoppets1052

    9 жыл бұрын

    TSW425 Dude, c'mon, step up your realization game. XD

  • @zachary5412

    @zachary5412

    9 жыл бұрын

    true, because i bought the ps3 hd collection, beat number one, and as soon as i got to number two, i quickly lost the spark and didnt wanna play it...

  • @Sweet9964
    @Sweet99649 жыл бұрын

    An interesting question to think about is, how would they have had the story that Jak 2 had, but kept the gameplay style of Jak and Daxter?

  • @AJMini557
    @AJMini5579 жыл бұрын

    Jak And Daxter The Precurser Legacy was my favourite not only because it was the original, but it was unique, the style was fun, challenging, kept you playing for hours just trying to get 100% completion (though I've never gotten so far as to complete it). One of my favourite aspects of the game is how atmospheric it is, in Sandover Village I felt happy as it was a colourful area, but then arriving in Rock Village took a dark alternative as it was burned, damaged, the weather was dull, it made you feel slightly more serious about the game, but all the way through I have to say the music is very uplifting, I also love the unique characters, even the ones that you only come across once or twice like the soldier in Rock Village or the fisherman in the Forbidden Jungle, it had a lot of cool minigames too speaking of the fisherman, fishing, shooting creatures and fending off ambushes in the Boggy Swamp etc

  • @MegaDrainProductions
    @MegaDrainProductions9 жыл бұрын

    In several documentaries that Naughty Dog has done from just going over Jak and Daxter or the history of the company in general, the people behind the series have said why they chose to go the route they did. If memory serves me correctly, the reason they decided to go with the gta look is because gta was very prevalent at that time and was very popular so they wanted to try to implement those features into the game while of course paint a story with fluent cutscenes, amazing dialogue, and a pretty interesting lore. As we all know, it worked amazingly well. So pretty much all you said was true except the Sony bit. Sony didn't push Naughty Dog for this idea, it was all their own stuff. Sony knows better than to push an idea onto the company that put PlayStation on the market. Bungie knows this especially well which is why they bailed away from Microsoft and decided not be be chained down.

  • @mega.exeogrewatch2658
    @mega.exeogrewatch26587 жыл бұрын

    I bought the collection and beat Precursor Legacy and just started Jak 2(blindly).My first 20 minutes were about me going THIS ISN'T SANDOVER VILLAGE,DAXTER and WHY AM I SO HAIRY AND BUFF?!

  • @Kro-RissaVirus
    @Kro-RissaVirus9 жыл бұрын

    Jak 2 is my favorite.... its infamously difficult, but the story is SO amazing

  • @Raptor302
    @Raptor3027 жыл бұрын

    It was a very noticeable evolution to a darker setting. The difference between Super Mario 64 and GTA (unless Mario time warped to the future, grew out his hair, started shooting guns and hijacking hover cars). It worked out fairly well though. For 10 year-olds who loved the first game, they were hitting their teen years at the release of the second and the change mirrored the transitions that they felt in their personal lives away from kid-friendly to more mature themes.

  • @eroll001
    @eroll0018 жыл бұрын

    Jak 2 is the hardest of the franchise.

  • @carlosJinx

    @carlosJinx

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Simon Huang Have you played it in "Hero mode"?

  • @eroll001

    @eroll001

    8 жыл бұрын

    Asking me that is like asking me if I even played the game at all. So, yes

  • @carlosJinx

    @carlosJinx

    8 жыл бұрын

    Simon Huang lol I'm still looking for some precursor orbs to unlock it.

  • @eroll001

    @eroll001

    8 жыл бұрын

    Guadalupe oh I used a map guide for them lol. Way too hard to be found while playing.

  • @carlosJinx

    @carlosJinx

    8 жыл бұрын

    I have like 163 now, I'm going to see how many I can find by myself then, maybe I'll use some guide lolol

  • @shaunosullivan111
    @shaunosullivan1119 жыл бұрын

    i loved jak 2. loved the feel, addition of dark jak etc

  • @PantakesVGP
    @PantakesVGP9 жыл бұрын

    So all of you wanted the same thing as Jak 1? The guy in the video even says "why im not playing Jak 1? it feels like its a different game". seriously? its the sequel, its supposed to be a different game. Otherwise u would bitch about Jak 2 being the same as 1. Each game changed enough for it to feel fresh and fun. I loved Jak 2, and Jak 3 was even better.

  • @sacredLaggan

    @sacredLaggan

    9 жыл бұрын

    Thank you someone who feels the same , the second game was different and yet amazing.

  • @linkheroofwinds

    @linkheroofwinds

    9 жыл бұрын

    Except they kind of changed the whole genre. Jak 1 was my favorite game ever. But I don't like shooters at all, so I was disappointed with and honestly hated the sequels.

  • @sacredLaggan

    @sacredLaggan

    9 жыл бұрын

    Link, The Hero of Winds i suppose i see youre point. Seeing a game change so much mustve been bad . Things have to change and sometimes for the better.

  • @daniellejean860

    @daniellejean860

    9 жыл бұрын

    Played all 3 of the original games, but not the racing games, or frontier, and that was my childhood and honestly 1 and 3 were my favorite along with the sly cooper series.

  • @zacharyroach2067

    @zacharyroach2067

    9 жыл бұрын

    Link, The Hero of Winds Ok... Just... no... the genre didnt change. The equipment did. It was still the same core game. There was still puzzles. Platforming. and Action. They just Updated the equipment they preformed these with. Which they should because it is a NEW and DIFFERENT game. Things must evolve. And to call Jak 2 or 3 a shooter is just... for lack of a better word. Stupid. They are not shooters. They have guns yes. But it is not a shooter. CoD is a Shooter. Halo is a Shooter. Battlefield is a shooter. Jak 2 and 3 is an action game with guns. And honestly If you hated the changes so much just play Jak 1 over and over again. Because they already perfected it right?

  • @JeannieLove
    @JeannieLove6 жыл бұрын

    I didn't know you played the Jak and Daxter series too! I found you through Kingdom Hearts, your videos helped me with the Ultima Weapon in KH 1 and 2, as well as the data battles in KHII. I'm going through Birth By Sleep, down to Aqua now, and playing Jak II during down time.

  • @Spiderdudu83
    @Spiderdudu838 жыл бұрын

    I loved Jak 2. It all began as a funny, simple and colorful Jump'n run, but then, wush, it went into an amazing Granth Theft Auto styled Action Game with a great dark and dirty Cyberpunkt-Setting. The character's became more complex and mature. I was between a Child and a Teen when I played Jak 2 the first Time and I LOVED it! I loved the bigger focus on a good and interesting story, I loved the Setting, I loved the Gameplay, even if the game itself was very hard and i loved the new grim and speaking Jak with an actual personality. I mean, we were made into thinking that Jak and Daxter is a childs Franchise, but then in the first minutes of the game we see how our beloved silent Hero is punched with a riffle, tortured fpr two years, turned into a monster with "I'm going to kill Praxis!" as his first words. THAT WAS AWESOME! But was I loved most was, that naughty dog understood that even younger Players can appreciate a deep and dark story and love playing as an anti-hero.

  • @jonh387
    @jonh3879 жыл бұрын

    My idea for Jak 4 must go like this. In my opinion the only way for Jak's story to make sense. Daxter and Tess taking a warm relaxed spa just outside the city. Jak getting pressured to become the leader of haven city. He drop Torn's suggestion to become the leader. And continues doing what he's good in Kicking ass in the arena and winning the races. Will all the people gets fond of him and admires Jak it becomes too much for him Eventually Jak needs to go incognito and tries to hide from the people and goes to dead town to Samo's old house. After sitting hours in the broken house of Samo's he recalls old memories when he was young playing in the house of samo's and meeting Daxter for the first time. A few seconds earlier the portal in Samo's house opens and will Jak is lurking in the portal. He see's the future were everything is in chaos and no one following the rules. The fight for leadership in Haven City turns out into a revolution. And will the rich and powerfull focus in becoming the world leader. The poor suffers and get beaten by thieves and thugs As he see's a innocent women getting attacked by a bunch of thugs. Jak jumps in the portal and will he looks around he find himself in the past. Will Jak knows he must not alter the past too much he must find a way to get back to the present. Will avoiding himself and Samos. He tend to go to the other sages to train him and giving him the knowledge how to go back to his own time. He tend not to use his name Jak and use his birth name ''Mar''. I can continu with this story but feedback? how do you think the story of Jak must go? He's Mar who created everything in the precursor's places but when and how did he ever made all this?

  • @snapdraggon999gaming3

    @snapdraggon999gaming3

    6 жыл бұрын

    John Velders Dude Amazing Storyline You nailed it

  • @DerColoHD

    @DerColoHD

    5 жыл бұрын

    Send me pls your full storyline. Want to read it xD

  • @SubscribersWithoutaVideo-cy3vz

    @SubscribersWithoutaVideo-cy3vz

    3 жыл бұрын

    Someone sign him please

  • @Jamesentmt
    @Jamesentmt9 жыл бұрын

    The game developers thought everyone who played the game was growing up and they thought the JAk series should be a darker story and grow up. thats a Fact look it up

  • @snapdraggon999gaming3

    @snapdraggon999gaming3

    6 жыл бұрын

    Retro Gaming Cool

  • @EVILBUNNY28
    @EVILBUNNY282 жыл бұрын

    Jak & Daxter: The Precursor Legacy was my favourite of the series. I just wish they made Jak II similar to the first game before changing the genre completely. I recently watched a video on what Nuaghty Dog had planned for JaD but they ran out of time and had to get the game shipped and boy do I wish they finished. There was another hub for yellow sage with 3 more levels to explore, plus Volcanic Crater had another level planned, plus Gol and Maia's citadel was intended to be a hub with 3 more levels before going on to the final battle against them.

  • @adamcoloretti4202

    @adamcoloretti4202

    8 ай бұрын

    One of the saddest things ever! Precursor Legacy still my favourite game ever probably but this would have put it so over the top. It’s a real shame too because the first HUB (Sandover Village into beach, jungle and misty island) is an absolute masterpiece with the side quests from the villagers and the level of detail with the power cells in the actual levels. You can tell as the game goes on it gets progressively less detailed (rock village is still great and the levels with this, but there are less side quests and more of them just involve buying the power cells). Once you get to volcanic crater you have only two levels instead of three and no more side missions from other characters. Again it’s a massive shame given they showed their potential in the first HUB at what they could have done with time…

  • @ZuleykaOrtega
    @ZuleykaOrtega8 жыл бұрын

    I remeber this when best buy selling this game and I played it in the store a little good times.

  • @pruhy1107
    @pruhy11074 жыл бұрын

    Jak 2 is the best in my opinion. The characters, atmosphere, Haven city and other levels made the second game the best one

  • @CXLV-
    @CXLV-8 жыл бұрын

    what's funny/weird is that after playing and completing Jak & Daxter: TPL, i thought that i'd instantly fall in love with the sequels but weirdly enough, i didnt take much of a liking to them at first.. it actually took me a few years to mature in my videogame taste to find Jak 2 and Jak 3 enjoyable which is literally a physical representation of how many years they matured the game from the first to second game lol. i literally had to grow up to find interest in them. that's just my personal experience with the franchise though. would love to see Jak 4 on the PS4 but unfortunately that doesnt look very likely

  • @GrayWoIf

    @GrayWoIf

    8 жыл бұрын

    I got all 3 for PS3 they had them all on sale for I think $15 anyways I loved the first one very Mario 64 ish the 2nd I absolutely hated but I really enjoyed the 3rd I'm currently playing Daxter on my PSP Go it's okay but repetitive.

  • @yonkoshah

    @yonkoshah

    7 жыл бұрын

    Ife Ade same thing happened to me :D I didn't like the dark tradition from when I was little but after a couple of years later, I started playing jak 2 again and it became my favorite game

  • @GamefreakRX
    @GamefreakRX8 жыл бұрын

    I can't say for the "Grand Theft Auto"-esk aspects of the game. But for Jak's personality and the storyark as it was they did so because they wanted to align the series with an older audience(Early to late teens) And games those players liked involved guns and swearing. They did an AMAZING job with Jak's character and its probably for the best they made this move as it gave Jak more of a character instead of just being "Silent protagonist with weird powers"

  • @randomps5guy315
    @randomps5guy3158 жыл бұрын

    my favorite is #3 jak 2 was awesome but some missions were hard but my least favorite above it is where's are the frickin checkpoints!

  • @Kjtherocker
    @Kjtherocker9 жыл бұрын

    third one was the best had so much fun with it

  • @AJwiththeAK
    @AJwiththeAK9 жыл бұрын

    Just think of when it came out. Games like GTA, cod, and other gritty action games were coming out and the colorful platformers were losing steam.

  • @BoyNamedSue4
    @BoyNamedSue49 жыл бұрын

    I saw an interview with the game director. Basically, Naughty Dog wanted to do a more story focused and didn't really like that Jak was a blank slate in the first game.

  • @Loginius_
    @Loginius_8 жыл бұрын

    Looking back at Jak 2 as an adult, maybe it tried a little too hard to be edgy. Still a great game tho

  • @SuperFirstSecond
    @SuperFirstSecond8 жыл бұрын

    Changing market tastes is why. GTA 3 came out and was a massive success, so there was a bigger, industry wide push for more open ended action games that skewed in a more mature direction. Naughty Dog sort of met those ideas halfway with Jak 2 and 3. I realize this video is over a year old, but Jason Rubin talks about it on the Devs Play for Jak over on Double Fine's channel.

  • @MrDennis21jel
    @MrDennis21jel9 жыл бұрын

    Naughty dog said that they were influenced by GTA3

  • @fredkotten43
    @fredkotten439 жыл бұрын

    Jak 2 is my favorite, I like seeing how dark the game gets its like a analogy for puberty and about boys coming into to adulthood and becoming a man, and how many choice you Have once you become an adult.

  • @docblack59
    @docblack599 жыл бұрын

    I'm tired of people saying during the change it became too serious. There was a lot of comedy mainly coming from Daxter interacting with other characters. Even Jak had some funny moments.

  • @LucatheDingo88
    @LucatheDingo887 жыл бұрын

    The first Jak and Daxter after all these years is still my favorite, I enjoy 2&3 but for different reasons then how I enjoy 1. I think there's no denying that GTA3 had way too much of an influence on the direction of Jak 2. Personally I would have prefered a Jak 2 that didn't feature GTA3 elements and had more of the colorful outdoor exploration and collectathon elements of the first game.

  • @thememeyestcat7294
    @thememeyestcat72945 жыл бұрын

    Jak 2 was my first game. And ironically it was the hardest game I ever played.

  • @dark-hh5ho
    @dark-hh5ho6 жыл бұрын

    i think the jak series did a good job of showing things like loss of inocence and growing up (he was 15 in the first and 17 afterwards)

  • @AionShanks
    @AionShanks9 жыл бұрын

    You can check the interview of the studio on the playstation channel they are going in-depth on every game and the studio :)

  • @dametime128
    @dametime1285 жыл бұрын

    Jak and Daxter: The Precursor Legacy was revealed at E3 in June 2001. The game had a budget of $14 million and a development cycle that lasted nearly three years. In that time, they managed to create a fully interactive world and conceived a narrative that would allow for more meaningful character development. The two central characters also went through a rigid design process that took inspiration from both Manga and Disney animation. They had initially planned on introducing a third character who would evolve as the game progressed in a Tamogotchi-style fashion. However, this idea was scrapped as it led to several unnecessary complications. The game's soundtrack was recorded at Mutato Muzika Studios, and was produced by Mark Mothersbaugh with Josh Mancell composing the score.

  • @FutureJacket
    @FutureJacket8 жыл бұрын

    Naughty dog said they were heavily inspired by GTA 3 and loved it.

  • @TheFatPunisher
    @TheFatPunisher8 жыл бұрын

    i loved jak and daxter. Jak 2 was awesome, but it was my least favorite. I was still pretty young when i got the second game and the difficulty really turned me off, specifically a few certain missions everyone knows about...

  • @youngbloodreach3913

    @youngbloodreach3913

    7 жыл бұрын

    The drill platform lmao.

  • @JacksonWestfall
    @JacksonWestfall4 жыл бұрын

    When Jak and Dexter Precursor Legacy came out, I played it nonstop on weekends (I was a little boy and Mom didn't allow me to play on weekdays). Despite this, I beat the game in about a month. When Jak II came out, my parents wouldn't let me get it because they saw guns on the cover, and they felt that it would be too violent. I ended up getting a spongebob game for my birthday instead. Fastforward to now. I am in my mid twenties and bought the game used from a locally owned dying used video game store. I can't believe what I was missing! I am about 70% complete with Jak II and I must say: it is WAY HARDER than Precursor! Hardly any checkpoints, no autoaim, and basically 3-4 shot death make it an uber challenge! It is also a nice expansion of the storyline I experienced while in my childhood. I am very glad to have picked up the series again, even if I am a little late to the party! I am planning on ordering Jak III once I beat Jak II. Cheers!

  • @alexmear5096
    @alexmear50965 жыл бұрын

    I always consider Jak 2 to be what yakuza was to sega as the gaming market was changing and was leaning more towards young adults and adults and so how yakuza worked well, jak 2 is the same

  • @Terszel
    @Terszel9 жыл бұрын

    According to Andy Gavin, the reason they went for the switch is because GTA was what was popular at the time and that's the direction they wanted to take the game because it seemed to them like a good change of pace. That's really the most official explanation on why there was a change, no one else on the team has come out and said anything.

  • @justsomeguy8385
    @justsomeguy83859 жыл бұрын

    The first Dynasty Warriors was a 1v1 fighting game. That's the biggest change I've seen in a game series. No one seems to remember that game though.

  • @Pippin03shiz
    @Pippin03shiz9 жыл бұрын

    Playstation uploaded a video a while back called naughty dog 30 years celebration or something like that and in the documentary they do talk about the changes in the Jak series and they mention how they were inspired by GTA 3 for Jak 2

  • @martinnguyen2458
    @martinnguyen24589 жыл бұрын

    I like the first Jak and Daxter game the best since it was simplistic to do. Jak II was completely hard and insane even though I like that game.

  • @natecarrasco7085
    @natecarrasco70859 жыл бұрын

    um, maybe it was the simple question where do you go? jak and daxter was a great game, but once the story was done...where do you go from there... it could also be people kept saying it was like crash bandicoot, which a lot of people loved, but naughty dog might have wanted to get away from that

  • @JacksonWestfall

    @JacksonWestfall

    4 жыл бұрын

    Sometimes it is good when they stop making new games. It means the old ones were sufficient. Plus, making a new game would probably have bigger shoes to fill in order to add to the already expansive storyline; if the game flops, it could even hurt the enjoyment of the older games. Just look at starwars as a brand to get an idea. After the new movies, a lot of people got turned off from star wars.

  • @NoireLaguna
    @NoireLaguna9 жыл бұрын

    I'd say they're trying to reach out to an older audience but I was barely in Elementary school when I got TPL and then I was 7 when when Jak II came along, who knows, but the series has come a long way thankfully.

  • @disfunctionalcyclist
    @disfunctionalcyclist9 жыл бұрын

    i didn't know you were into jak i fucking love you man!!

  • @banana4scale132
    @banana4scale1328 жыл бұрын

    I think you answer your question in the beginning. Precursor Legacy struggled because of how over crowding. So many other platformer collectathons. The series was good but needed something new to keep the property viable.

  • @Spark51001
    @Spark510018 жыл бұрын

    If Jak 4 was eventually announced, I'm not entirely sure if I would prefer if it to play more like Jak and Daxter, rather than Jak 2 or 3. For me, the first is and always will be my favourite, but maybe thats just nostalgia

  • @dawson6294
    @dawson62947 жыл бұрын

    As a kid I never even noticed the significant change. To me it all feels completely justified to create the fantastic story. Honestly I feel like the first game is much less fun to play, and prefer the second and third games much more.

  • @startainfection9736
    @startainfection97369 жыл бұрын

    with jak and daxter their philosophy was fun sells then after jak and daxter they saw a change in the industry, gta 3, then naughty dog changed the games

  • @RobTheBoss
    @RobTheBoss9 жыл бұрын

    The real reason it changed so much is because naughty dog thought it was too much like crash bandicoot so they changed the area and made it for older people and turned it into an action game like Grand Theft Auto.

  • @herosquad90

    @herosquad90

    9 жыл бұрын

    Robbie hackman Crash didn't have an open world. Or a collectable item needed to progress through the plot, powercells and precurser orbs. Or much of anything similar to Crash.

  • @disfunctionalcyclist
    @disfunctionalcyclist9 жыл бұрын

    Prince of Persia changes from Sands of Time to Warrior Within was a bit similar - I wonder if they were influenced too, Warrior within was such a brutal game...

  • @asneakylawngnome5792
    @asneakylawngnome57925 жыл бұрын

    I remember seeing Jak and Daxter 2 on Toonami and they did a review of it I think? But I remember being so damn excited for it after that. And it didn't disappoint at all.

  • @ttewelow1
    @ttewelow17 жыл бұрын

    It's kinda funny when you think about it. Jak and Daxter The Precursor Legacy felt like Banjo-Kazooie and Jak II felt like GTA III, Vice City, or San Andreas

  • @XxCoUrLeYxX
    @XxCoUrLeYxX9 жыл бұрын

    Maybe because if you listen to the story he travels far into the future when he goes through the teleporter on Jak2. I liked the change becuase it gave a better feel than just running around. But overall jak and daxter is my favourite its my childhood game id buy it if it came to ps4 just like I did when it came to ps3

  • @joshjones6410
    @joshjones64109 жыл бұрын

    The reason why it changed was because the guys who founders Naughty Dog made jak 1 and came up with idea and stuff BUT they left and gave the lead job of Naughty Dog to Christophe and Even Wells. Those two came up with the ideas of Jak 2 and 3. :) there's a whole anniversary video on the Play Station KZread channel talking all about Naught Dog from the beginning :)

  • @KatWarhound
    @KatWarhound5 жыл бұрын

    Jak 1 was so innocent and happy. It was just a real pleasure to play. Jak 2 just corrupted a couple of super amazing characters. They could have done a lot more with that game.

  • @fatherlucid4995

    @fatherlucid4995

    4 жыл бұрын

    I couldn’t agree more. That’s why I’m making a fan game. Set in an alternate parallel universe where the dark dystopian world never exists in the future and Jak never goes through a portal after the first game.. instead they find something else behind the doors on the citadel. I also wanted to explore Keira’s character more along with Jak. She learns to become a sage throughout the game. Maybe the orange sage or something like that.

  • @KR-lx4yn
    @KR-lx4yn7 жыл бұрын

    I honestly did not see it as a possible GTA involvement. I always saw it as Naughty Dog were at the time racing along side Insomiacs with Rachet and Clank an in that sense why Jak II included weaponry and such.

  • @dtpiers6136
    @dtpiers61369 жыл бұрын

    I'm so glad I'm not the only one that loved ye first one. The first was about exploration, collocting, and had a nice magic feel to it. It had a soul! I really wish 2 and 3 were in the same world as jak 1... but then again, 2 did have a phenomenal story... it just didn't feel like a jak game

  • @galaxy_kitten95
    @galaxy_kitten959 жыл бұрын

    For the longest time, I always thought the change happened just to compete with Ratchet & Clank. Their game came out the year after Jak 1 and Naughty Dog and Insomniac had a close bond with each other back then, so it wouldn't be a surprise. I love both series btw.

  • @mann-nova9392
    @mann-nova93928 жыл бұрын

    Jason Rubin (co-founder of Naughty Dog) stated this in an interview once: they were apparently playtesting the game, and they brought in some 8-year olds for Jak 1, the kids said that it was fun and all, but that it was something they'd give to their little brothers instead. Jason responded with "You're eight, what else would you be playing?" and they responded with "Grand Theft Auto". As GTA III had come out, Naughty Dog realized their audience was changing, and with that they would need to change their games too.

  • @adamcoloretti4202

    @adamcoloretti4202

    8 ай бұрын

    Fcking hell way more mature 8 year olds than I was. 12 year old me would have been content with TPL and would have seen Jak 2 as too dark 😂

  • @DemiTrusdale3
    @DemiTrusdale38 жыл бұрын

    Wow, I didn't even notice the change. They acclimated me so well to the gameplay, it just felt like banjo tooie in comparison to kazooie.

  • @GerryTheProdigy
    @GerryTheProdigy7 жыл бұрын

    They were all amazing!!!

  • @killachriz96
    @killachriz968 жыл бұрын

    nahh man all of them are awesome as a kid playing precursor legacies was gun but when i had jak 2 it was like dude fuck yeah this is awesome....and the map was big the story took a good amount of time to finish cuz you know kids go to school and what not so my childhood was filled with amazing memories and the punisher, predator concrete jungle, god of war man I miss them :( time to play them now

  • @keeganstormblade5456
    @keeganstormblade54567 жыл бұрын

    Old Comment: "From what I heard, Naughty Dog said that they're never going to make another Crash Bandicoot, or Jak and Daxter game again. This is terrible news!" Update: Well... since the Crash Trilogy is out now, I wonder if anyone will remaster, or at least continue the Jak and Daxter series. That would be great, but I don't see that happening for a while.

  • @PsycoCheese07
    @PsycoCheese079 жыл бұрын

    Another drastic change, Conker's Pocket Tales to Bad Fur Day.

  • @ShinPepsiman
    @ShinPepsiman9 жыл бұрын

    I love all 3 jak games, but A small part of me wishes they stuck with the first game's formula. They took a big risk changing the game the way they did in 2 & 3 but they succeeded in doing so. I sort of see the 2 & 3 games growing up with me. The first had me intrigued with all its colors and stuff as a kid, and the second and third had a little profanity and showed jak as a badass with weapons and junk

  • @michaellovisotto627
    @michaellovisotto6272 жыл бұрын

    I like your points, however if you got all the power cells in jak and daxter you got a cutscene at the very end of the game, where the rift gate opens and there is a rift rider. Essentially the story was planned to happen before jak 2 came out.

  • @notthatfastatcube43
    @notthatfastatcube439 жыл бұрын

    Maybe Jak 1's similarities to Crash are the reason that Naughty Dog changed up the formula. They could have felt that they had been making platformers for so long that they wanted to try something different. And with GTA3 being so successful, it could have served as inspiration for Jak 2

  • @NebulousWyatt
    @NebulousWyatt6 жыл бұрын

    When Jak 2 came out I thought he was absolutely badass! Love everyone of them and all of his styles. This game is a trip :)

  • @TheChosenOne_23
    @TheChosenOne_239 жыл бұрын

    2nd was my favorite its the best plus they had really hard missions

  • @rorybarber5076
    @rorybarber50769 жыл бұрын

    I think the core mechanics of Jak carried over from 1 to 2. The controls, combat, and platforming elements all remained in tact. The open world of haven city is similar to that of Jak 1, also Jak 1 did have "Missions" in a sense. The big difference is why your doing those missions. In 1 you did them for power cells, which where needed to advance, And you could choose which ones you did. Jak 2 however made the missions mandatory, and just cut out the power cells entirely.

  • @thewintersoldier8387
    @thewintersoldier83874 жыл бұрын

    Jak II : Grand Theft Auto Jak 3 : Mad Max

  • @brockrawlins1568
    @brockrawlins15688 жыл бұрын

    it aged and matured with their target demographic. lucky for me, I was smack bang in the middle of that. with the kiddiness of 1, the angstiness of 2, and eventually finding the light and what it's worth. (3)

  • @ventusxzephyr13
    @ventusxzephyr138 жыл бұрын

    "Big" is an understatement

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