I would legitimately support this campaign monetarily

@alanfisherextras

5 ай бұрын

I'll be making details more public soon, but I will always be thankful for support on my patreon to push these topics/campaigns forward with others

@vinylcabasse

5 ай бұрын

same.

@realcanadian96

5 ай бұрын

same here

@johnmckiernan1177

5 ай бұрын

@@alanfisherextras you have me convinced, I’m gonna go subscribe to your patreon.

@vijfsnippervijf

5 ай бұрын

As A Dutchie, I love this campaign! Our railroads end up very well-maintained and very reliable in part thanks to NS/Prorail, which are 100% state-owned. Without them, it would basically be impossible to even live anywhere near a railroad because of derailments and accidents caused by preventable damage to tracks and trains.

Never have I expected to see a Conrail sigma edit, yet here we are.

@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45

2 ай бұрын

RETVRN TO CONRAIL

I just saw that video "Urban Planning KZread has a HUGE Problem," and I was rather confused as I always thought urbanist KZread seemed concerned with motivating people to get engaged in improving their communities. Maybe it isn't always at the forefront, but the intent is definitely there. Your channel was one of the first I thought of. It's important to think of how we can impact our communities on a local scale, but we should never stop dreaming big. Time to NATIONALIZE!

@alanfisherextras

5 ай бұрын

some of us are just built different

@jamescollins3647

5 ай бұрын

Nationalization doesn't work, just look at the shit show British Railways became.

@danielhutchinson6604

5 ай бұрын

Promoting Construction Company Profits, appears to be the purpose of Urban Planners. The development of more fancy buildings to produce exotic profits becomes the purpose of Urban Planning. When the Money expires the Opportunists will be thinned out drastically. The US Currency is about to face some harsh questions. Who supports the value of the Currency? How do they expect to cover $200 trillion of Nations Debts? Where are the profits to support the use of Capital now going to appear? The US is a Consumer Country, 70% of the GDP is determined by Consumer Spending. Consumers are now $17 trillion in the hole. This appears to be an unsustainable system.

@Madwonk

5 ай бұрын

​@@danielhutchinson6604sir this is a Wendy's

My only issue was they abandoned so many parallel routes. Many of which today could be used today to alleviate congestion or have dedicated passenger lines.

@danielhutchinson6604

5 ай бұрын

The "Profits" they produced were insufficient to keep the Investors interested. The Shareholders are served before any of the Customers. That is how the system failed to serve those it was chartered to work for.

@DiamondKingStudios

5 ай бұрын

Not even just parallel routes. Columbus, GA, a fairly large city (300k metro area, almost 500k including Auburn, AL and other outlying areas) one hundred miles from Atlanta, has had *both* of its main links between them abandoned since the 1980s. CSG-ATL would be a great intercity corridor but there’s nowhere to run the trains except maybe northwest to Opelika and then to Atlanta by the West Point Route. Need anything shipped to Atlanta? That’s I-185’s job. Need it there quick? There’s an airport I guess, but to restore the rail lines you’s have to rip out bicycle paths.

@joshuaw711

5 ай бұрын

@@DiamondKingStudios interesting how poor of choices that were made across the board. My specific thoughts were on removing the Erie Lackawanna specifically from South Bend to Chicago. Today that could be used to route less important trains over the NS Chicago line between Chicago and South Bend and especially running those through more rural, southern areas of Lake, Porter and LaPorte counties. Rather than the northern NS route that passes through many cities and towns.

@DiamondKingStudios

5 ай бұрын

@@joshuaw711 The PRR line between Pittsburgh and St. Louis via Columbus (Ohio), Dayton, and Indianapolis is partially abandoned. It would have been such a good passenger corridor, especially to compete with I-70. Also parallel lines that bypass cities would be really good. Wish they had kept the Pacific Extension and routed freight on that. Freight run by electric locomotives, too. Much of that was electrified before diesels.

@danielhutchinson6604

5 ай бұрын

@@DiamondKingStudios If the Right of Way still exists, the installation of Tracks is not difficult. The use of innovation in the new tracks is what can make them profitable.

The best day to nationalize the railways was yesterday, and the second best day is today!

Time to start calling in those land grants.

I hope this is the beginning of an informative campaign, not just hype. We need a well informed, sustainable plan & execution of a VERY long process with major legal & law changes & big budget expenditures that will have major negative returns on financial statements while it can be transformative for both freight & passenger rail of all types!

@danielhutchinson6604

5 ай бұрын

The ability to discuss how it became so limited in service to the majority of Citizens, now becomes an issue that should be discussed. Innovation appears to be the key to expanding Rail Services. Europe appears to be doing a good job .....

Conrail 2, Rail harder

@LGRW523

5 ай бұрын

Conrail 2: Electric Choo-Choo

@SalmanMentos

5 ай бұрын

Conrail 2: PRORail

@TheNobleFive

5 ай бұрын

Rail Connor

@railfandepotproductions

2 ай бұрын

The return of conrail

I live near the small village of Valley Falls New York which if you didn’t know had a train derailment a few weeks ago. While nothing was spilled that endangered the community most of the train has just been siting there on the side of the tracks right next to the main intersection after the rubble was cleared off the tracks. This has gotten a lot of people around here wondering why this stuff is happening and given me a lot of leverage to bring up things like nationalization with an a lot more open minded audience despite most people around here being fairly conservative.

Virginia apparently wants to electrify some of the rail lines it bought, and sources show VDOT supports it, but CSX won't let them because they claim catenaries dont work well with double stacked cars (SEPTA immediately contradicts this). Make sure to bring that up.

@Madwonk

5 ай бұрын

"double stack cars don't work under caternary" The entire country of India: am I a joke to you?

@GustavSvard

5 ай бұрын

Hidden nationalization option that would get it all done: Nationalize it all, but that nation being India. Not ConRail. Indian Railways!

@wta1518

2 ай бұрын

To be fair, the pantographs for catenaries above double stacked cars do look kind of ridiculous being so tall, but aesthetics aren't the biggest concern here.

We shouldn’t be so reliant on for-profit corporations to move our economy and maintain our infrastructure.

@TohaBgood2

5 ай бұрын

At the very least the government should own the infrastructure itself. We collectively own the highways, how are the railroads any different?!

@ahilltodieons

5 ай бұрын

For-profit companies built them in the first place. Maybe the government should just subsidize roads less.

@DiamondKingStudios

5 ай бұрын

Infrastructure in the 1860s: “all right you folks can build your rail line here’s $50 million dollars go right ahead” Infrastructure now: “we need a highway built can we contract you folks to build it”

The US had Conrail, and we had CN. When i found out CN abandoned the squamish - lilloet portion of the BCRail mainline, that for me was the final push to make me a nationalization extremist. If we ever get our way, i pray those haunting chimes may ring through the Breckendale canyon once again.

@northMOFN

5 ай бұрын

Wait, what? No, that can't possibly be. They were VERY clear that we, the people of British Columbia, still owned the railway, we had just sold off the right to USE the railway for 99 years with the option to renew 9 more times. I can't believe that the selloff of BCRail might have had hidden consequences. Shocked, I say.

@realcanadian96

5 ай бұрын

@@northMOFN I was too young to have feelings about it when the scandal happened, but my dad was so pissed he quit his job and we moved from squamish to maple ridge.

I'll be really curious to hear how we want to push for this since there are so many options for *how* to nationalize the rails. I'm not a big fan of state DOT's, but I can says ours has been building its rail department out more in recent years... Also to note, it didn't take a lot of public outcry to get our state DOT to formally consider interstate reduction/removal as parts of study proposals. We'll definitely need both federal and state pressure to do something like this. I want to believe.

@daniel6678

5 ай бұрын

this is important - we have to do it right. it would be really easy for a program like this to go off the rails (badum tss) and fail, and then conservatives would use it for decades as “proof” that public services suck and can’t work

@danielhutchinson6604

5 ай бұрын

@@daniel6678 How long will "Conservatives" have some money to conserve? How stable is the US Currency? What is supporting a Fiat Currency? How many G-7 National Economies report thriving GDP figures? US Currency actually seemed to be doomed in 2008. It got worse in 2014. The measure of Class distinction is now defined by Dollars, that are projecting Future Earnings . Seems to exist on images that are described by imaginary Dollars? Like Hollywood ...... how sustainable is that? Who am the Conservatives? Who are the Carnival Barkers? A lot of operators have failed already, we do need something to do while awaiting the next economic decline.....

@DiamondKingStudios

5 ай бұрын

Unless we get a new state government GDOT’s going to drag their feet the whole way through.

We can achieve Nationalization, and we can achieve it today if we work hard enough, and advocate enough! LETS BRING BACK CONRAIL AND LET AMTRAK UNLEASH THEIR TRUE POWER!

@fishofgold6553

5 ай бұрын

"...LET AMTRAK UNLEASH THEIR TRUE POWER" Yes! Let Amtrak say, "NOW I SHOW YOU MY POWER!" kzread.info/dash/bejne/doyK0c-Yhry7oLQ.html

@danielhutchinson6604

5 ай бұрын

Do you understand how much the Majority Investors in the two largest Railway conglomerations, East of the Mississippi spent on the Full Page Centerfold in the Wall Street Journal for weeks before they consumed Conrail?

I love Conrail!

Going to write a bill for this for congressional style debate over the summer!

@danielhutchinson6604

5 ай бұрын

That proposal appears to overlook the fact that Leadership decides who suggests what. Leadership positions are purchased not elected. Can You afford to direct the debate? I do not want to sound cynical but how do you suppose we got here? The elimination of the ICC was as infected as the creation of the regulatory body. Congress appears to be corrupted by the same Investors who now are screwing up the remains of the Nations Assets.

Not only did KZread decide to put chapter markers on a 25 second-long video, but somehow it chose to name the chapters “intro” and… “lettuce”. Great day for fans of both nationalized rail service and leafy greens

@danielhutchinson6604

5 ай бұрын

We are fortunate that Yoohootube allows us to discuss any topic.....

CSX is CANCELLED. Norfolk Southern is CANCELLED. Get ready for Conrail 2, RETVRN of Big Blue!

Blame NS. And CSX for buying CONRAIL trackage

Would it be better to base nationalization legislation on the Conrail model, or the nationalization of the railroads during WWI, if there was a substantial difference?

@alanfisherextras

5 ай бұрын

that will all be answered in this project (its going to be an hour long)

@cykablyatman6242

5 ай бұрын

those domkop fedbois killed steam we should take them back from the museums!!!!!

A better world is possible, and it's possible today

@bjf10

5 ай бұрын

A better world is possible, and it's up to us to build it!

@jamescollins3647

5 ай бұрын

@@bjf10 Not while it's full of humans dopey. If it was it would already exist.

hyperborean conrail

@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45

5 ай бұрын

Meccan Conrail Take back what the White man has destroyed

@ninyaninjabrifsanovichthes45

2 ай бұрын

Meccan Conrail before the creation of the White Man on Patmos

Like Rage said, we gotta take the (railroads) back!!!

Fuck yeah.

Name of song?

Nationalize rail! Double track! And Electrify! I to would help campaign for this

I hope you have more than derailments and service failures to corroborate your case - they will happen under nationalized carriers as well. Curious to see the final product.

I'm in DC now (we met on the BART Platform when you had a meetup in San Francisco), is there going to be any chances to get involved to convince legislators?

@alanfisherextras

5 ай бұрын

don't worry, we have some good people on our side 😉

@Madwonk

5 ай бұрын

@@alanfisherextras Let's hope so! We're going to need every ally we can get if we want to make this happen!

What we need is for the big guys to split back into little guys because it all went downhill when everyone got too big. We need railroads to become much more regional again!

What’s the song?

You should do a video about BC Rail. Seriously. British Columbia's railway history is mired in corruption.

In my country the freight trains have to be bypassed everywhere by passenger trains which have made it difficult to compete with the now 34 meter trucks. So you definitely need to keep both in mind. But in the US maybe there won’t be as many passenger trains and commuter trains so it might be fine for now

Can't wait!

After all....... we took the drinking water away from the private sector a long time ago, for a good reason.

I will support this, when can we begin

Disband ALL private rail, make it public again!

@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer

5 ай бұрын

Pribate?

@athenaclark2567

5 ай бұрын

@@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomerPirate?

@cryokeebs

5 ай бұрын

@@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer private..

@MicahtheDrumCorpsPseudoboomer

5 ай бұрын

@@cryokeebs Oh.

@J.M828

Ай бұрын

Tri-state? (Continue The Sound-Alike Chain!)

I would join If I was old enough

I will give my life to the nationalization campaign

I support this 100% I am sick of the class 1's

NATIONALIZE THE FUCKING RAILWAYS.

I'm gonna be honest, I don't see how rail companies being nationalized would magically make things better. It'd be easier for the US to subsidize the rail industry with the money it's currently wasting pumping into other countries.

For starters we can get our government to buy out trackage. Then the only responsibility of the freight companies would be to provide high quality competitive freight rail service. And we can put an end to monstrously long freight trains on the mainlines.

YOU GOTTA FIGHT FOR YOUR RIGHT TO RAILROAD NATIONALIZATION

one of your videos is featured, that must feel great!

train edit before gta 6

I absolutely love this idea. I hope this happens in my lifetime

So when are we getting this campain started? Let's nationalize the freight companies. Push pressure on our legislators to pass the US High Speed Rail Act!

A Mighty Horn’s a-blowin! This goes so hard!

heat

This is gonna be lit

I absolutely love it how the urban planners and train enthusiasts are all anti-capitalists! You guys give me hope

conrail: the last battle

so how would we governmentize like CPKC which is now basically Canadian Pacific but big and I’m 90% sure basically entirely in Canada with at least their headquarters and whatnot

Can we just train-pill Warren Buffet?

Private enterprise is always better than public. Amtrak (government run) has never made a profit.

hell yeah!

The hype is conreal

“Retvrn” but not cringe

Does anyone know why Conrail had to exist in the first place?

Based

@alanfisherextras Might be a silliy question, but whats the name of the Soundtrack? The Music? I like it quite much.

@alanfisherextras

5 ай бұрын

Here it is: kzread.info/dash/bejne/lqqj27mKosfLpqQ.html

Good.

Happy to publicize this event.

I think that this argument presents somewhat of a false dichotomy. The EU created multinational agreements that separated ownership of and maintenance of the trackways from operating the rolling stock. Since then, some of the countries had declines in railroad quality (UK and Germany come to mind) but more of them have been experiencing huge advances like the Chunnel, and high speed networks in France, Spain, and Italy, that have really revolutionized transport and are starting to zero out airline competition on short flights that are bad for the environment. Here in the US our most successful high speed lines today are running at a profit (Brightline running a private profit, and Acela running a public profit that bankrolls a bunch of other unprofitable service). I think the bigger need is not necessarily some kind of nationalization and more of stripping away the historical monopolies the rail companies never should have received during the 1800s and getting more serious about expansion of both public and private options with neutral and fair criteria that give the public more choices and authentic competition to provide better service. Right now the rail companies are the worst combination of privatized profit and socialized losses. That doesn't create a working market and a working product for the public because all of the economic incentives are distorted.

I was a libertarian. Now I just want the trains to run on time. Pete Quinones is my guy

STFO JERRY it’s not communist

Hell yeeeeaaaahhhhh

Don’t nationalize the rolling stock nationalize the rails.

👀

C O N R A I L

Please bring back Conrail and ATSF the railroads of nostalgia please bring them back my both favorite American railroads. 😢🙏

I agree 100% PSR needs to go!

So you're just posting urbanist memes now.

not that I'm necessarily against the message of this campaign, but realistically the rail lobby is too entrenched right now for this to have any immediate effect on anything. I'm highly skeptical this will make any big impact nationally, but if i'm wrong i'll be pleasantly surprised.

Honestly nationalisation would be a LOT beneficial They shouldve did it instead of invading the middle east

@maas1208

4 ай бұрын

FR

Happily would support in a heart beat. Down with private corporations and stinky diesels, up with nationalization and electric trains!

I have no problem with railroads being privately owned. What I have a problem with is them being purchased, owned, and directed by investment firms that exist solely to squeeze every penny of short term profit out of otherwise legitimate businesses (leaving the business as a dried up dead husk, shouldering the general public with the task of dealing with the ruins of the business after the investment firm kills it), rather than treating the business as a long-term enterprise that acts for the good of it's owners, employees, and customers alike.

@eleSDSU

2 ай бұрын

So you have no problem with them being privately owned, you just have problems with all of the repercussions of them being privately owned lmao.

@ViewpointUnique

2 ай бұрын

I have a problem with them being ran poorly.

I love Conrail, but I think the problem is less of whether it's private or public and more incompetent individuals being in positions of power.

@eleSDSU

2 ай бұрын

And you are entitled to be wrong.

Nationalizing things only works temporarily just look at Amtrak

@ViewpointUnique

2 ай бұрын

The problem is that government is run by the same leeches that run big business. Two sides of the same coin.

@theamericane2655

2 ай бұрын

@@ViewpointUnique no the problem is that they either A. Have bigger fish to fry or B. They Don't know a steam engine from a diesel

I take it you don't like Conrail? 🙂 (they still exist BTW, owning some tracks that are shared between CSX and Norfolk Southern). It is very unlikely to see any nationalization of freight again because the freight railroads are too profitable. (aka lobby money)

RETV/RN

Ok who gave the foamer a link to a bread tube stream?

I love conrail and all but like Government ownership leads to a monopoly meaning nobody else is allowed to compete and can also lead to poor infrastructure on the railroads because “if we’re owned by the government, it doesn’t matter if quality is bad because we literally can’t go out of business”

Is this a joke? Or a pipedream?

Bro decided to post facts and a w edit

lol and what, let the .gov run it? 😂

@eleSDSU

2 ай бұрын

Yes, ideally.

@AnontheGOAT

2 ай бұрын

@@eleSDSU lol like Amtrak? How’s that working out?

Norfolk Southern SUCKS!!!!

They were never yours to begin with.

@trainspotting_and_tech2023

5 ай бұрын

Your point being?

Stupid rarely fixes stupid, so to the other viewers I suggest watch a couple Thomas Sowell videos, or common sense soapbox, and come to the conclusion that any disabled veteran would know, don't let government run anything!

@TheNobleFive

5 ай бұрын

Fix the government and make it do it's job.