Italians in the Battle of Britain - RAF Finally Shows Up

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• Italians in the Battle...
After the initial air raids of the Corpo Aereo Italiano (Italian Air Corps) against Britain in which no RAF fighters were met, things changed on 11 November 1940. Two Hurricane and one Spitfire squadron opposed the attackers and caused them significant losses. But how heavy were the overclaims? And did the Italian CR.42 biplane fighters shoot down any RAF airplanes? Find out in this video.
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- Håkan Gustavsson and Ludovico Slongo - Fiat CR.42 Aces of World War 2
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  • @simoncampbell-smith6745
    @simoncampbell-smith674513 күн бұрын

    One can't doubt the bravery of the Italian crews flying less than first rate aircraft against a well trained, veteran determined enemy.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    I agree, thank you for commenting!

  • @evanlevitan6835

    @evanlevitan6835

    13 күн бұрын

    Bravery or fascist stupidity?

  • @jozefbubez6116

    @jozefbubez6116

    12 күн бұрын

    Yes, but this was, I think, Mussolini's one and only attempt to show Hitler that he could 'do his bit'. Strategically, it acheived absolutely nothing resulting in loss of life that may otherwise have been avoided!

  • @luismartincagnonemendez3467

    @luismartincagnonemendez3467

    11 күн бұрын

    Sooo a los italianos se le puede pintar un avión camuflado en tonos verdes en minas el cielos es celeste o gris jajajaj

  • @roykliffen9674

    @roykliffen9674

    11 күн бұрын

    In all three military disciplines, the Italians actually showed real bravery but were often let down by incompetent leadership or subpar equipment , be it tanks, aircraft, or ships, although their submarine division was punching above its weight. As a result the Italian forces in WW2 are often ridiculed, just like the French, even though the latter fought fierce battles against the superior tactics the Germans employed, actually sacrificing many to allow the British retreat from Dunkirk to become a "success".

  • @frankguz55
    @frankguz5514 күн бұрын

    It takes some guts to attack a Spitfire in a CR42...

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    Yes, you could say so.

  • @honkhonkler7732

    @honkhonkler7732

    13 күн бұрын

    Should be an easy Spit win assuming the pilot uses vertical tactics instead of turn fighting as they might try with German fighters.

  • @timonsolus

    @timonsolus

    13 күн бұрын

    Well, at least the Fiat CR42 could out-turn the Spifire! (And the Hurricane.) So if the British pilot yanked hard on his control column and went into a tight turn, bleeding off a lot of speed (an evasive tactic which would always work against a Me 109), he might find himself a sitting duck with that CR42 still right on his tail...

  • @timonsolus

    @timonsolus

    13 күн бұрын

    @@honkhonkler7732 : Yes, but in November 1940 the RAF had a lot of inexperienced pilots, who were replacements for heavy losses in the Battle...

  • @cpj93070

    @cpj93070

    13 күн бұрын

    @@timonsolus Wrong Britain had it's well rounded batch of Pilots who by this stage were well trained as taking part in both the battle of France and Britain by this stage.

  • @trent847
    @trent84713 күн бұрын

    It is to the credit of the flying skill and determination of the Italian pilots that they all weren’t shot down during that encounter. Only one Falco biplane fighter was actually shot down with the other two were forced down due to mechanical problems. Those pilots of the Regia Aeronautica were just as brave as any of the Luftwaffe or Royal Air Force pilots who participated in the battle. The Italian fighter pilots and bomber crews didn’t want to be there but they did their duty in their weak under armed bombers and slow short ranged fighters with open cockpits while lacking radios only to be looked down upon with disdain from their German allies. They don’t deserve ridicule only respect.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Italian pilots were asked to do way too much by their leadership and I agree, they deserve respect.

  • @roymeadows1708

    @roymeadows1708

    12 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 Exactly this. Italian armed forces were not cowards..They were lead by idiots who couldn`t organise a piss up in a brewery.

  • @shaddaboop7998

    @shaddaboop7998

    11 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 They were fighting for fascism and terror bombing civilians. Brave certainly, and I respect that they were following orders, but this is bordering on veneration. Be careful with that.

  • @beachcomber1able

    @beachcomber1able

    11 күн бұрын

    What about the RAF "terror flieger"? They killed a few innocent civilians that never put Hitler in power.

  • @emergencylowmaneuvering7350

    @emergencylowmaneuvering7350

    11 күн бұрын

    Bologni. The missions were all a big failure. Minimum damage and lost most of the airplanes. And many pilots claimed failures and turned back for nothing. See at beginning most of the best planes "turned back "because of the weather". Paper Tigers..

  • @alvarvillalongamarch3894
    @alvarvillalongamarch389413 күн бұрын

    Those poor Italians didn't stand a chance with that kind of equipment!Shame on their superiors,who sent them on an almost suicidal mission.The CR42 was an excellent fighter for it's time,but underpowered and undergunned.You can outmanoeuver the Hurricains,but you can't chase them or escape.Sad story.Sorry for the Reggia Aeronautica.No match.

  • @CZ350tuner
    @CZ350tuner13 күн бұрын

    The BR20 had quite a sophisticated bombsight, when compared to the British WW1 era "Mechano, steel rulers & string" contraptions utilised on all British bombers, at the time. The BR20's bombsight was directly linked to the aircraft's altimeter and automatically self recalibrated, if the altitude changed during the bomb run. Something that neither German, American, British or Soviet bombsight could do. Anyone who has flown the BR20 in IL-2 Cliffs of Dover - Blitz, will be very familiar with this very useful feature.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for providing info!

  • @pierluigiadreani2159

    @pierluigiadreani2159

    13 күн бұрын

    Having great "optionals" but missing the bigger picture (for instance armament and engines) is a tradition of our military procurement.

  • @ThePhoenix198

    @ThePhoenix198

    12 күн бұрын

    @@pierluigiadreani2159 True, or at least until the Fiat G.55 and Macchi C.202/C.205 were developed, although they were dependent on imported Daimler Benz DB.601/605 engines.

  • @user-ij5lc1kw8r

    @user-ij5lc1kw8r

    7 күн бұрын

    Viva Italia!

  • @tacfoley4443

    @tacfoley4443

    2 күн бұрын

    Meccano is the correct name.

  • @Pablo668
    @Pablo66813 күн бұрын

    In terms of mono wing fighters, the Italian airframes were actually pretty good. It was engines and firepower that let them down. Later in the war the Italians put German in line engines into their fighters, and for a hurried adaptation performed very well, among the best of the war. I think a lot of people tend to focus too much on how well a fighter aircraft performed, particularly in a one on one furball. Whereas who wins a fight was more depended on who saw who first and who held the height advantage. Formation tactics were important too.

  • @teedub00
    @teedub0012 күн бұрын

    The Italian PoW's were condemned to five years of British food.

  • @claudiocalabrese3865

    @claudiocalabrese3865

    12 күн бұрын

    That has got to be worse than getting sent in a concentration camp…

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    12 күн бұрын

    They were already unhappy with German food in Belgium as one of them reported :)

  • @walterkronkitesleftshoe6684

    @walterkronkitesleftshoe6684

    11 күн бұрын

    Seemed they wanted a bit of the "action" against the British... shit cuisine or not. They fucked about and found out.

  • @xxxpoiled

    @xxxpoiled

    8 күн бұрын

    My uncle was prisoner in England...i can witness eng people was very correct find him a work in Manchester. Army catch them in desert...he was Flying on a Savoia marchetti as forecast guy

  • @MarkHarrison733

    @MarkHarrison733

    7 күн бұрын

    @@claudiocalabrese3865 The Allies used concentration camps and slave labour.

  • @alastairward2774
    @alastairward277414 күн бұрын

    The title suggests the RAF had to cut tea short and grumpily get to their planes.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    Well, if you watch the first part, it becomes clear 😁

  • @joeshmoe9978

    @joeshmoe9978

    14 күн бұрын

    😁

  • @photoisca7386

    @photoisca7386

    13 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 Just another foreigner hating the British. The title is designed to attract like-minded souls.

  • @aleks1939

    @aleks1939

    13 күн бұрын

    @@photoisca7386 No pudding for you! Not until you eat your meat!

  • @rainerbehrendt9330

    @rainerbehrendt9330

    13 күн бұрын

    @@photoisca7386 What's wrong? Not enough Tea?

  • @alexhatfield2987
    @alexhatfield298713 күн бұрын

    I’m English. I’ve been speaking English for about 60years and even after all that time, it’s STILL often grammatically inexplicable. Your pronunciation is just fine “Showtime.”

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the comment! I don't think anyone will ever find logical explanation for some of language 'rules'. English is not exactly the only such language but it tends to be a little more confusing than your average language 😁

  • @michaeldowd8422

    @michaeldowd8422

    12 күн бұрын

    Arse kisser lol

  • @ThePhoenix198

    @ThePhoenix198

    12 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 'Cough', 'though', rough', through' are examples of how 'ough' is pronounced differently according to convention. Now try 'Slough' ... 😂😂

  • @thisisnumber0

    @thisisnumber0

    12 күн бұрын

    No, it is NOT just fine. It is wrong. Stand in the corner with your underpants on your head and contemplate the error of your ways.

  • @martinbrode7131

    @martinbrode7131

    12 күн бұрын

    Experiences with it?😂​@@thisisnumber0

  • @ronaldhenderson8803
    @ronaldhenderson880313 күн бұрын

    Got to admit the Italians had a cool camo sheme

  • @razgriz380

    @razgriz380

    12 күн бұрын

    It's actually very similar to the German spring offensive camo. Likely took cues from their axis ally. Not all that's surprising seeing as it was intended for the Mediterranean. But attractive nonetheless.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    It's pretty original, that's for sure.

  • @chrisward7085
    @chrisward708512 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the video. When I was an ATC cadet at Biggin Hill, the CR42 was in the museaum hangar. We were supposed to clean the aircraft but actually played with them. I've sat in the CR42 cockpit!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you for sharing. I envy you for that experience :)

  • @luckyguy600

    @luckyguy600

    2 күн бұрын

    You lucky bastard. I am telling on you!

  • @thecrow3380
    @thecrow338013 күн бұрын

    That's right: Harwich is pronounced as "Harrich". There are many English place-names like this; my favorite being Happisburg, which is spoken as "Hays-borough". You get used to it, as a Brit, and if you're not a Brit, you never do get used to it (:>

  • @noelmajers6369

    @noelmajers6369

    13 күн бұрын

    True enough. Speaking as a British person, I have never struggled with them. Although the etymology is weird, there is also an indecipherable logic to British place names which arises from the evolution of the English language which is only partly phonetic. For a foreigner who really wants to get them right I would suggest that just learning them one by one.

  • @KABModels

    @KABModels

    13 күн бұрын

    *Happisburgh

  • @mwrkhan

    @mwrkhan

    13 күн бұрын

    Not just place names. Featherstonehaugh is pronounced Fanshaw.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    You might be right about never getting used to it 😁

  • @thecrow3380

    @thecrow3380

    13 күн бұрын

    @@KABModels How did that get by me? Age surely creepeth up!

  • @andrewstackpool4911
    @andrewstackpool491113 күн бұрын

    The grit and determination of both sides warrants admiration especially the Italians in what were obsolete aircraft. That said, as the Gloster Gladiator proved in the desert and at Malta, properly coordinated and with tighter turning circles, biplanes could hold their own against more modern aircraft including 109s

  • @DC.409
    @DC.40913 күн бұрын

    Look into the East Africa war, this commenced between Italy and DUKE forces (Dominion,UK and Empire) June 1940, the RAF and RAAF were outnumbered by the East African Italian Air Force. Interestingly whilst the bombers were quite modern, the fighters on both sides were biplanes DUKE fury, gladiators . DUKE quickly addressed this with Hurricane, Battle and Mohawk because the Fiat fighters outperformed the Gladiator. It was effectively an holding action until 6 November 1940, when the DUKE forces attacked.

  • @i.setyawan
    @i.setyawan13 күн бұрын

    Can't wait to see the last episode! Biplanes, when expertly flown can be hard to kill in a dogfight due to their agility. They may not be able to make a kill, though. Another excellent video. Keep up the good work!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    I appreciate your support. Yes, monoplane pilots still had to be careful when entering dogfights with biplanes.

  • @sleepingrabbit4011
    @sleepingrabbit401113 күн бұрын

    This is absolutely fascinating. I did not know anything about the Italians fighting over Britain.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you! Watch the first part as well, the initial part of their operations is described as well.

  • @ewok40k
    @ewok40k14 күн бұрын

    dont bring a biplane to a spitfire fight...

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    An old Latin proverb? 😁

  • @rainerbehrendt9330

    @rainerbehrendt9330

    13 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 An irish one. Mallone from the Untouchables.

  • @user-uy3bj9ue5c

    @user-uy3bj9ue5c

    13 күн бұрын

    😂

  • @Treblaine

    @Treblaine

    13 күн бұрын

    Yet do bring a biplane to a battleship fight...

  • @williamkoppos7039

    @williamkoppos7039

    13 күн бұрын

    @@rainerbehrendt9330 Also referring to italians

  • @aceshigh234
    @aceshigh23413 күн бұрын

    The Italian pronounciation is on point, very well done!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    12 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for the feedback!

  • @doktor_spritz9344
    @doktor_spritz934414 күн бұрын

    Always a great day when you load up a video

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    It's very nice to hear, thank you!

  • @bdleo300
    @bdleo30012 күн бұрын

    What a terrible decision to call off escorts but not cancel the mission.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    12 күн бұрын

    Agreed. A similar thing happened to Italian Tornado mission in Operation Desert Storm. The support was cancelled but nobody told them and one Tornado was shot down.

  • @waynemathias8074
    @waynemathias807413 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the superbly detailed sim reenactment. There were quite a few aircraft on all sides that were outclassed, but imagine the stories the survivors could've told afterward. "There I was, in a open cockpit biplane with two machine guns... Allorraaa!"

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you for watching and appreciating the video! I'm sure it was quite 'exciting' for the biplane pilots 😁

  • @ptonpc
    @ptonpc13 күн бұрын

    The courage of the crews should never be forgotten.

  • @ilaser4064

    @ilaser4064

    11 күн бұрын

    And the stupidity of their leader...

  • @user-ij5lc1kw8r

    @user-ij5lc1kw8r

    7 күн бұрын

    Nor their stupidity1

  • @rezzoc91
    @rezzoc9112 күн бұрын

    I had the pleasure to know Giuseppe Ruzzin. I made his wiki page in ligurian as well.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you for sharing!

  • @murrayangus
    @murrayangus13 күн бұрын

    A little known aspect of the Battle of Britian and very interesting indeed. Great video!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    I'm happy you liked it, thank you!

  • @tomriley5790
    @tomriley579012 күн бұрын

    Incidentally the reason for the variation in English pronounciation is easily explainable because of the various races invaded, built, named things and then had them renamed by others doing the same thing several times over the centuries. East Anglian towns and Northern English towns were originally roman, renamed by the Angles and saxons and then formed part of the Danelaw until their the various kindoms formed into England.

  • @mfuller1093
    @mfuller109312 күн бұрын

    RAF squardrons numbers are always described in numbers , for example ''617 squadron and are never described in words like ''six hundred and seventeen.

  • @bobdylan7120

    @bobdylan7120

    11 күн бұрын

    Not true, especially for those with double digit numbers and even some with triple digit. For example, 111 Squadron was always known as "Treble one" and 29 Squadron was referred to as "Twenty Nine" (Odd fact, their squadron markings are XXX, which is 30 in roman numerals).

  • @andrewwaller5913

    @andrewwaller5913

    11 күн бұрын

    41 Sqn and 54 Sqn are said as Forty One and Fifty Four so not always the case. There are variations.

  • @andrewmorke
    @andrewmorke13 күн бұрын

    The Gloster Gladiator, a biplane, clashed with Italian aircraft in North Africa.

  • @Heylanda-fb9xb

    @Heylanda-fb9xb

    13 күн бұрын

    As well as the Soviets on the Eastern Front in the early years with their Polikarpov I-15 and PO-2 "bomber".

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Also in Greece and Malta.

  • @raypurchase801

    @raypurchase801

    12 күн бұрын

    Read the biography of the South African RAF ace, Pat Pattle.

  • @travelbugse2829

    @travelbugse2829

    11 күн бұрын

    I believe some who flew both biplanes reckoned the CR42 had an edge over its British rival.

  • @rvieira8057

    @rvieira8057

    11 күн бұрын

    @@Heylanda-fb9xb You mean the I-153, I think. The I-15 was used in the Spanish Civil War.

  • @fastmover2598
    @fastmover259813 күн бұрын

    The little-known Regina Aeronautica's involvement didn't provide any definitive, lasting impact, but it did offer a benefit to its German ally. At the very least, the Italian involvement forced the British to dedicate resources (aircraft, anti-aircraft batteries, manpower, etc.) to defend an area that wasn't as strategically vital. Also, militaries, in general, learn valuable lessons from both minor engagements and short-term campaigns.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Good point, offensive action always ties down enemy resources.

  • @mikemontgomery2654
    @mikemontgomery265413 күн бұрын

    I had no idea that CR.42 in the museum at Hendon was downed over British skies. I have my own pictures of it. As for pilot Blatchford, he had an airfield named after him in North Edmonton, up until about 2015ish time frame. Very cool.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the feedback!

  • @ThePhoenix198
    @ThePhoenix19812 күн бұрын

    Another pronunciation thing: in British and Commonwealth forces, the rank 'Lieutenant' is pronounced 'lef-tenant' rather than 'loo-tenant'.

  • @user-uy3bj9ue5c
    @user-uy3bj9ue5c13 күн бұрын

    Why did the more modern fighter go back when the biplanes carried on in the bad weather?

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Not sure but I think they were not based in the same airfield so weather might have been better for the CR.42s and the bombers.

  • @jimboll6982

    @jimboll6982

    12 күн бұрын

    Germans thought " Fuck this" not being shot down on Harwich.

  • @MiG-31893
    @MiG-3189314 күн бұрын

    Excellent as always! You are getting much better at syncing the narration with the film! I was wondering if you could make a video at some point on the combat record of the Fiat G.55? Apparently it was said to be the best fighter in the axis. If the TA-152 was the ultimate German fighter, then the Fiat G.55 was the ultimate Italian fighter. The Fiat arrived too late to fight for Italy, but fought in the ANR forces agains the allies. Anyway I hope this video preforms well (it should do)!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the positive comment! G.55 would be an interesting story for sure. I have to check what kind of an info is available on it.

  • @yveaux500
    @yveaux50013 күн бұрын

    Truly brilliant stuff (as always) Hope you will do a video once on how the Dutch army aviation fought against the Luftwaffe in may 1940. Some heroic stuff here and there with outdated equipment.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you! The Dutch aviation against Luftwaffe is on my 'to do' list. I believe we have the airplanes used, I just need to see what kind of details are available.

  • @yveaux500

    @yveaux500

    13 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 that is truly great to hear. If you need any help with the research or things like prenounciations please let me know.

  • @0ldb1ll
    @0ldb1ll11 күн бұрын

    Faith, Hope and Charity. The RAF took delivery of Gloster Gladiators in 1938 and there was also the Fairey Swordfish, which helped sink the Bismark.

  • @ColinFreeman-kh9us
    @ColinFreeman-kh9us14 күн бұрын

    Thanks for the effort you put in brother, really interesting story of these men that is sadly not known.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    Thank you for watching and for providing a positive feedback! Yes, this story is somewhat overlooked.

  • @anselmdanker9519
    @anselmdanker951914 күн бұрын

    Great presentation thank you

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    I'm glad you appreciate it!

  • @akikominagawa2075
    @akikominagawa207513 күн бұрын

    Thank you for covering this topic! I appreciate this so much. It's not something we ever learned about in the UK curriculum and I doubt many people know back there.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you for watching and appreciating it!

  • @jdsaldivar5606
    @jdsaldivar560613 күн бұрын

    82ND AIRBORNE I am not an Ambassador...can I still watch??

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Nope, it's not allowed :)

  • @jdsaldivar5606

    @jdsaldivar5606

    12 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 82ND AIRBORNE Damn!! That was Strong!!

  • @joeshmoe9978
    @joeshmoe997814 күн бұрын

    Luigi sees Spitfires: "Mama Mia!!!"😯

  • @Pax.Alotin

    @Pax.Alotin

    13 күн бұрын

    Gutless USA wasn't even in the war at that stage - so STFU

  • @RealDarko
    @RealDarko13 күн бұрын

    Beautiful reenactment. Brave crews on both sides.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    12 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for the comment and for a pretty long subscription!

  • @bjornsmith9431
    @bjornsmith943114 күн бұрын

    The unknown Battle of Britain the Italian Air force vs the British Air force.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    Exactly. Thank you for another comment!

  • @jimsaintamour2
    @jimsaintamour213 күн бұрын

    Bang up job as usual! I can only imagine how long it takes for you to make these videos.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for the financial support! These videos are a full time effort. This one was slightly more complicated as there were many small and rather specific scenes to do.

  • @giacomomeluzzi280
    @giacomomeluzzi28010 күн бұрын

    It's rare to find someone making the effort of pronouncing our names correctly, thanks!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    10 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the feedback! I said it wrong in the first video and I got dozens of comments about it :)

  • @barrysnelson4404
    @barrysnelson440413 күн бұрын

    A very good and watchable video. Well done. But when you meet someone who believes the Battle of Britain extended into 1941 because the Germans were still bombing Britain you can explain to them that the Germans were still bombing Britain in 1945. The Battle of Britain refers to that action wherein Goering was trying to destroy the RAF prior to an invasion. Bombing was just to draw the RAF into battle to be destroyed. His motive in 1941 was not air superiority but to damage industry, transport etc - a different reason. The Italian actions were not part of the Battle of Britain at all because their motive was not to destroy the RAF. They didn't have a motive, at all, really, apart from Mussolini's ego.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Then why is the captured CR.42 exhibited in the Battle of Britain Museum? 😁😁😁

  • @barrysnelson4404

    @barrysnelson4404

    13 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 So when do you say the Battle of Britain ended, if you don't believe the official date? And should the pilots who fought these Italians be awarded the Battle of Britain clasp? And if so what should be the last date for one the most prestigious battle awards there is?

  • @barrysnelson4404

    @barrysnelson4404

    13 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 Showtime, I did enjoy your video and I have more time to respond. The reason the Battle of Britain has dates is because the Battle of Britain clasp to the 1939-1945 star was awarded 2,937 times to all aircrew who made an operational flight between 00:01 on 10th July to 23:59 on 31st October. It entitles the holder to claim to be one of "The Few" the single most famous fighting group of World War 2. Only one survives - Pilot Officer Hemmingway. He is 104. And I thought your video was very well made but the Battle of Britain does have defined dates.

  • @oscarvi3232
    @oscarvi323213 күн бұрын

    Great work Showtime. Love the detail.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thanks, details are very important in these stories (when you can find them).

  • @TheFergie9
    @TheFergie96 күн бұрын

    My father joined 603 City of Edinburgh in Hornchurch just after The Battle of Britain, and in 41 they returned to Turnhouse in Scotland..thrilled to see them mentioned

  • @cannonfodder4376
    @cannonfodder437613 күн бұрын

    Not exactly the most auspicious start if that is how one's first real engagement with the enemy went. Biplanes fighters have no place in that theatre against Hurricanes and Spitfires with modern communications. 1:26 Got a good laugh at that, the English naming convention is weird. Good video.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you for commenting! Biplanes could have augmented the fighter cover but alone like that, they couldn't do too much.

  • @exocet1
    @exocet113 күн бұрын

    Check out the book "Chianti Raiders" The British loved going through downed Br.20 because they carried loaves of bread and Chianti..funny now looking at video you can see British pilots holding captured Chainti bottles and italian helmets :)

  • @kevinl1492
    @kevinl14929 күн бұрын

    My late mother grew up in Maidstone, Kent. In 1941 she was only 16 but she would tell a story later about the Italian Airforce bombing the center of Maidstone trying to hit the bridges over the River Medway. The Italian Air Force roundal looked like the RAF roundal and some people thought the planes were British. So they ignored the air raid sirens - until bombs started falling. I am not sure if she was actually there or she just heard about it. She was evacuated to Yorkshire during the blitz.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    9 күн бұрын

    Thank you for sharing the story!

  • @leighrate
    @leighrate12 күн бұрын

    Well I'd say that anyone who thought the Italians weren't formidable antagonists had just been disabused of that notion.

  • @adamcooper2211
    @adamcooper221112 күн бұрын

    Great video!!! Please do the third part with CR.42s Vs Spitfires - the Italian participation in the Battle of Britain is so often overlooked!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the feedback, third part coming out this Saturday.

  • @dillonhunt1720
    @dillonhunt172013 күн бұрын

    "WITNESS ME!!!!" -Flight Lieutenant Blachford probably

  • @robijnbruinsma4489
    @robijnbruinsma448913 күн бұрын

    Thorough and fair account.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Glad you think so, thank you!

  • @1joshjosh1
    @1joshjosh113 күн бұрын

    The internet in my work lunchroom is so sh**y I will have to wait till later to view this video. Oh the humanity. 😭 But watch it later I will !!

  • @Spitfiresammons
    @Spitfiresammons13 күн бұрын

    The Italian air Force during the Battle of Britain campaign must be a total disaster for Mussolin great story. Please do the F-51 Mustang vs Yak-9P during the Korea war.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    It is generally considered a big failure. As for your Korea suggestion, yes I've been wanting to cover some of that stuff for a while.

  • @Heylanda-fb9xb

    @Heylanda-fb9xb

    13 күн бұрын

    The only branch of Regia Aeronautica that was successful in their missions was their torpedo bomber team utilizing SM.79 aircraft. Otherwise, they are remembered in the history book as a joke.

  • @anthroderick5383
    @anthroderick538313 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for the great vídeo!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you for watching and commenting!

  • @williamkoppos7039
    @williamkoppos703913 күн бұрын

    Your presentations are Very Good

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    I appreciate that, thank you!

  • @mediapartners9950
    @mediapartners995013 күн бұрын

    Another great video many thanks 👍🏻

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for watching!

  • @roberts1938
    @roberts193812 күн бұрын

    A very carefully prepared film. A lot of work. Thank you very much. In Polish materials, Karol Pniak shot down 1 and 1/2 Fiat Br-20 that day Exists a photo Karol Pniak with trophies from the second plane that was attacked. The first one actually fell into the sea. The pilots of 257 Squadron had a photo session with the same trophies. It would be nice if you included a photo of Karol Pniak with the film. He appears to be the most likely pilot to shoot down the BR-20 that day. I will send the links to your email because YT blocks other links.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you for commenting and for sending the email. I've looked at the links last night.

  • @brainyskeletonofdoom7824
    @brainyskeletonofdoom78246 сағат бұрын

    14:10 WOW! Ruzzin was a family friend and ive left a comment about his Memories of the Battle under the First video of the series! This shows that the videos are very well researched

  • @juancarlosperezcortes9259
    @juancarlosperezcortes925913 күн бұрын

    Marellous video. Everytime is a new history class

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    I appreciate your feedback!

  • @branka4226
    @branka422613 күн бұрын

    Nice video!

  • @leemiles3995
    @leemiles399511 күн бұрын

    This series is really good! Keep going with part 3 please 🙏

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you, Part 3 coming up this Saturday.

  • @r2gelfand
    @r2gelfand14 күн бұрын

    And the RAF Pilots went home to tea and medals.

  • @donparker1823
    @donparker182313 күн бұрын

    Thanks!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you once again for the financial support!

  • @JimmyPeaTV
    @JimmyPeaTVКүн бұрын

    Great vid, and full of great information. I was born on 11th November. We always celebrate Remembrance Day and my birthday at the UKs Battle of Britain Memorial 👍

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    9 сағат бұрын

    I appreciate your feedback!

  • @delcatto60
    @delcatto607 күн бұрын

    Two good books about Italian aircraft over Britain and East Africa: The Chianti Raiders by Peter Haining and Air War East Africa 1940 - 41 by Jon Sutherland and Diane Canwell. Great video, thank you.

  • @leighjones5551
    @leighjones555113 күн бұрын

    great video and a lot of research to produce this great work

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    I appreciate your feedback, thank you!

  • @ralphscholer7345
    @ralphscholer734511 күн бұрын

    Incredible !!! One more masterpiece of Your air war videos!! And You bring more Light on the operations of the REGGIA AEORONAUTICA in WW II . I'm interested espacially in the Italian Air Force.And I don't know about that bad experience of Musolini's pilot's agains't RAF. First Time ,You bring this to me !! Brilliant video and naration by Your smooth voice ! Also brilliant.the camouflage of the Italian planes ! As a model builder I love it,and now from Your video,I have some more new impressions for my Hobby. Many, many Thanks for this good stuff...YOU ARE THE BEST...

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for this inspired comment! Italian Air Force is often overlooked (and ridiculed) but I'd say they were an important part of the whole story. I seem to inspire model builders a lot recently :)

  • @nor0845
    @nor084513 күн бұрын

    Interesting video. Thank you for posting.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you for watching and commenting!

  • @falkonsix
    @falkonsix2 күн бұрын

    Interesting episode well presented............many thanks.

  • @tonyadeney1245
    @tonyadeney124513 күн бұрын

    have read accounts of spitfire pilots flying straight past stuka dive bombers in an attack ... not realising how slow they were ..... friend who is a pilot said a biplane is more difficult to hit than many realise -- and they can turn extremely well --- and even if hit bullets just go through as most of it is canvas ... harwich prononciation ----- UK --- many are surprised how many place names are spoken completely differently to spelling --- partly comes about because of origins of english which is a bizarre mixture of saxon french celtic roman ancient english and so on and a variety of other languages --------- we even have the same names said differently in different places gillingham kent ---- gillingham dorset /// add in regional accents -- BUT essex is odd as it has around 20 towns where visitors always say the name wrong ... ... my theory is that its done as a joke to annoy the tourists ......

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    I agree about the pronunciation theory, it definitely sounds like a joke 😁😁😁 Thank you for commenting!

  • @bobbyricigliano2799
    @bobbyricigliano279911 күн бұрын

    "Our state of the art BF-109 fighters are turning back due to weather. But those Fiat Biplanes should be just fine."

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    It's one of the consequences of not having radios.

  • @user-pi4wj7bm4z
    @user-pi4wj7bm4z10 күн бұрын

    An interesting historical video. The archive information is outstanding and I hope to see more of your work. Greg in Canada 🇨🇦.. 😊.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    10 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for the positive feedback! Check out older videos if you missed them and final chapter of this story is coming up on Saturday.

  • @soumadip_skyy_banerjee
    @soumadip_skyy_banerjee11 күн бұрын

    Another awesome video by my favourite Croatian! :)

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you, glad you liked this one!

  • @KABModels
    @KABModels13 күн бұрын

    The correct pronunciation of RAF Squadrons are as follows: from 1-100 Squadrons, 20 squadron, 55 squadron, 87 squadron, from 100-600 odd, one oh one squadron, two four two squadron, six one seven squadron etc. there is never a TH after the RAF Squadron numbers. there is no such squadron as 'the sixth hundreth and seventeenth squadron' its Six-one-seven Squadron, and no such squadron as 'the fiftyfith squadron' Its 55 squadron. Hope this helps :)

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Brits and their 'correct' ways to pronounce things 😁 But thanks!

  • @heneagedundas

    @heneagedundas

    13 күн бұрын

    ​@showtime112 It is correct for the RAF, but there's no suggestion or implication this is correct for other airforces.

  • @KABModels

    @KABModels

    13 күн бұрын

    @@heneagedundas im sorry, did i even mention other air forces?

  • @heneagedundas

    @heneagedundas

    10 күн бұрын

    ​@@KABModelsNope. But I wasn't replying to you, I was replying to Showtime and the possibility he thought this was a naming method we British think should be universally applied. I agree with everything you said, and have been making the same point myself over the years.

  • @lesterbuckman5493
    @lesterbuckman549311 күн бұрын

    Awesome! look forward to more great content

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    I appreciate your positive feedbaack!

  • @kruno1861
    @kruno186112 күн бұрын

    Great video as always

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    12 күн бұрын

    Appreciate that, thank you!

  • @gunnergoz
    @gunnergoz11 күн бұрын

    Excellent video, thanks!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    Glad you liked it, thank you!

  • @wolfganggugelweith8760
    @wolfganggugelweith876013 күн бұрын

    Brave Italian pilots!

  • @jerrymail
    @jerrymail13 күн бұрын

    Your videos often make me want to build a model. I have on my list the Honduran Corsair, Israeli Avia S-199, the Egyptian FIAT G.55 .... Now the FIAT BR.20 "Cigogna". 😃 Unfortunately, I have a lot of models to do and not a lot of time to do them. 👍👍👍 Keep up the good work 👍👍👍

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    12 күн бұрын

    Thank you again! I understand your problem, I have the same one with video topics. So many ideas and so little time to realize them :)

  • @danhubert-hx4ss
    @danhubert-hx4ss11 күн бұрын

    Very interesting vid as per usual.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    11 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the feedback!

  • @lorenzodelfino5894
    @lorenzodelfino58949 күн бұрын

    Excellent video (as usual)

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    9 күн бұрын

    I'm happy you think so, thanks!

  • @themajesticmagnificent386
    @themajesticmagnificent3869 күн бұрын

    Brilliant video and more please to complete this subject🇬🇧👍

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    9 күн бұрын

    Thank you! Part 3 coming up this Saturday.

  • @gemellodipriapo
    @gemellodipriapo14 күн бұрын

    Great vid! Thank you! But I think you need to highlight the obsolescence of the Italian aircraft ... biplanes with no radios etc ... otherwise you run the risk of this inadvertently becoming a wankfest for flag waving triumphalists ... What is interesting though is the success the Italian air force had in North Africa, the Med and East Africa with a variety of planes. There were several Italian biplane aces such as Tenente Carlo Canella and the better known Capitano Mario Visintini

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the comment! This video is pretty much intended to be watched after part one in which more details about the airplanes themselves are given. I made a video about Mario Visintini too, a while ago, maybe this will encourage people who missed it to watch it.

  • @grahvis

    @grahvis

    14 күн бұрын

    It was the end of the idea that agility would overcome speed. The Soviets made the same mistake at the start of their air battles.

  • @gemellodipriapo

    @gemellodipriapo

    14 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 I must watch! Thank you!

  • @sixgunsymphony7408

    @sixgunsymphony7408

    13 күн бұрын

    Brits were still using Gloster Gladiator fighters in the early years of WWII

  • @gemellodipriapo

    @gemellodipriapo

    13 күн бұрын

    @@sixgunsymphony7408Yawn! The RAF was indeed employing knackered old Glads but not over “this green and pleasant land”, They were employed in secondary theatres like East Africa where pilots like Visentini were shooting them down with gusto.

  • @iansadler4309
    @iansadler43096 күн бұрын

    For info - RAF terminology would be "2 5 7 squadron", not "two hundred and fifty seven squadron".

  • @capitanvonchickenpants8492
    @capitanvonchickenpants849212 күн бұрын

    The only planes that could fly backwards

  • @jebblinne3273
    @jebblinne327313 күн бұрын

    Excellent video!

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much!

  • @c.morees9698
    @c.morees969812 күн бұрын

    That CR42 was quite a plane! The fight also shows the arnament of the Hurricanes where more effective against the bombers than the arnament of the Spitfires.

  • @bryanwheeler1608

    @bryanwheeler1608

    12 күн бұрын

    It was common practice during the Battle of Britain for the Hurricanes to attack the bombers & the Spitfires take on the escort, which was normally BF109s, & the fairly ineffectual 110s.

  • @ryanbluer6098
    @ryanbluer60983 күн бұрын

    You have to admire the bravery of any pilot who is willing to get into a dogfight flying a Biplane again Hurricanes and Spitfires or like our brave Swordfish pilots attacking a modern battleship like the Bizmarck or the Italian fleet at Torantto

  • @SpookyFox1000
    @SpookyFox100011 күн бұрын

    To be truthful, after the Romans left Britain we have never been scared of Italy !

  • @luckyguy600
    @luckyguy6002 күн бұрын

    I liked that video! Thanks for all the effort you put into the production. Something different. I have seen the fighter at Hendon, but I didn't know the history of it. I always thought them rather cool bi-planes from another era.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    9 сағат бұрын

    Thank you very much for the positive feedback!

  • @donparker1823
    @donparker182314 күн бұрын

    I'm kind of surprised at the level of detail that's available about this conflict between the Regia Aeronautica and the RAF. And yes, the Britons have some very economic ways of saying the names of their cities and counties. My favorite is Worcestershire. I would say this in four syllables. They say it in two,. Woos-ter. I would go to war anytime with the Brits. Very professional, well led and funny.

  • @gwtpictgwtpict4214

    @gwtpictgwtpict4214

    14 күн бұрын

    Not quite, Woos-ter would be the town of Worcester which is the county town of Worcestershire which is pronounced Woos-ter-sher 🙂

  • @donparker1823

    @donparker1823

    14 күн бұрын

    @@gwtpictgwtpict4214 I stand corrected. It’s been 30 years since I lived there.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    Most details actually come from the British reports. This is in fact true in most cases, British or American sources are usually the most extensive ones. Or at least it seems this way when you primarily research in English language 😁

  • @gwtpictgwtpict4214

    @gwtpictgwtpict4214

    14 күн бұрын

    @@donparker1823 No worries man, 61 years old here, born in the UK and English pronunciations still throw me from time to time.

  • @grahvis

    @grahvis

    13 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 . I used to have a small book published in 1943 titled RAF Nice Types. It had cartoons and descriptions showing the various personnel on an RAF station. I seem to remember the Intelligence Officer who it was claimed wouldn't accept a kill unless the pilot brought back the enemy pilot to confirm it.

  • @pragmaticskeptic
    @pragmaticskeptic13 күн бұрын

    Biplanes be like bringing a knife to a gunfight!

  • @tomtaylor6163
    @tomtaylor616310 күн бұрын

    Wow thanks for this. I never knew about the Italians. I do love Italian machinery and women.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    10 күн бұрын

    Thank you for the comment! There was a bunch of older video about Italian Air Force in WW2, check them out if you missed them.

  • @mootpointjones8488
    @mootpointjones848811 күн бұрын

    Good video, thanks 👍 I have seen the CR42 at Hendon, a graceful bi-plane.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    9 күн бұрын

    Thank you for commenting, I hope to go to Hendon someday!

  • @ianbeale2527
    @ianbeale252711 күн бұрын

    Most British would pronounce Harwich in the way it is spelled, despite the W being silent. We have lots of names like Bicester being pronounced Bister etc. If you know, you know. Another great video. Now subbed.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    10 күн бұрын

    Thank you very much for that info. And for subscribing. The pronunciation it was a bit of a joke since in the first video, I pronounced the 'w' and I got dozens of comments explaining how the w is silent 😁

  • @eric-wb7gj
    @eric-wb7gj14 күн бұрын

    TY 🙏🙏

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    14 күн бұрын

    Thank you for watching!

  • @RedViking2020
    @RedViking202010 күн бұрын

    The Title is also misleading in saying the RAF FINALLY shows up. Their rapid interceptions gave Germany its first defeat and saved the country. The ' unexplanable' reason is entirely explainable. Britain has been around a very long term enduring failed and successful invasion attempts. Its language, like many other's has therefore changed and evolved absorbing French,Viking,Latin and Greek words to name a few. Some towns date back to pre-medieval times and so bare pronunciations from that period. Some letters in many languages are actually silent or 2 combined letters can create a unique sound as well. Psychology has a silent P, it is at the end a foreign word. The stress of word placing in a sentence can change the meaning completely hence the title has a negative slant to it. Great video,excellent research. Linguistics of another countries language and grammar is always a challenge,but not unexplainable. Great channel,keep up the good work, old chap ( PS a friendly english expression that doesn't refer to your age)

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    9 күн бұрын

    The title refers to the fact that first Italian raids were unopposed by fighters. Besides, videos need to have a provocative title or else they are simply ignored. I don't like that fact but what can I do. Regarding the Harwich pronunciation, that was a little joke coming from the fact that dozens of people corrected me in the first video (when I did pronounce the 'w'). So I thought, let's have some fun 😁. Anyway, thank you for the comment! I am familiar with the 'old chap' expression, having seen all the episodes of Poirot and Jeeves & Wooster 😁😁😁

  • @geoffreypiltz271
    @geoffreypiltz27113 күн бұрын

    Well done with the pronunciation of Harwich, particularly when the "w" IS pronounced in Ipswich. So may non Brits don't bother to get such things right.

  • @showtime112

    @showtime112

    13 күн бұрын

    I was only corrected about fifty times in the first video 😁

  • @geoffreypiltz271

    @geoffreypiltz271

    13 күн бұрын

    @@showtime112 Guessed as much. Here's one that almost no Brit gets right - Tintwhistle - the locals say Tinsel!

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