Some people would rather purposely miss the point rather than concede a reasonable point.

@darshanvictor8479

Жыл бұрын

People like that you just can't have on your team. No help at all.

@Jmsdean43

Жыл бұрын

This guy is a total duchebag. "I have a graduate and undergraduate degree." Who gives a fck.

@vagabondwastrel2361

Жыл бұрын

thats why debating socialists isn't to win over the socialist. Just prove they are frauds to the audience.

@Lewismarty1

Жыл бұрын

PBD super guilty of that here

@deang8910

Жыл бұрын

@@Lewismarty1 you’re joking right? U didn’t actually watch this and think PBD was the unreasonable one did u?

"who makes a better decision for your daughter? You or the government?" "What kind of decsion?" Everything you need to know about the mindset of leftism right there.

@j_jones_

Жыл бұрын

They’re all statists that act like they care more so they can get social or economic power.

@mrplow2843

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely pathetic

@trackingthecoreofstuffandm2310

Жыл бұрын

i much rather have my money go for a public service than go into the pocket of a globalist swap who lobby the government for more free trade agreements with china and try to turn this country into china by forcing corporations to suppress the wages of hard working Americans

@home4life505

Жыл бұрын

A.B.S.O.L.U.T.E.L.Y. leftists have so much trust in the govt they call oppressive.

@elchipiischipi

Жыл бұрын

🤣exactly!

P: would you like some water D: that depends on the water P: H2O D: is it in a glass or bottle P: bottle D: is it an 8oz bottle or a 16oz P: forget it

@ahambrahmas

2 ай бұрын

yeah, clarification and specificity is for libs

@mpup54

2 ай бұрын

EDIT D: is the bottle plastic or glass

@FirstLast-gk6lg

4 күн бұрын

This guy is nearly entirely incapable of having a productive conversation and it's so fucking frustrating

@cassieblack1776

2 күн бұрын

He over complicated everything and makes the conversation impossible so no point can be proven.

When you have to say wdym for every question you’re clearly trying to make your opponent consistently explain themselves… question the question “is that logical”, “wdym by that” the best way to rebut this is by either calling them out or keep dragging the conversation back to the original question posed

@chichiboo17

3 ай бұрын

I can’t tell which person your talking about

@mpup54

2 ай бұрын

he interupts way too much, but he shouldnt ask. David should come out and just say do you mean this (and then Patrick can restate or answer yes/no). You are correct, just being reactionary with more questions doesnt really narrow down anything, he is just trying to protect his ass in his response, but all this does is make for a horrible conversation that barely even gets any traction.

As a former Federal employee and current State employee i can reassure everyone they have absolutely no idea how much of their money is pissed away every year. Even if you think you have some idea I promise you, it’s 10X worse.

@dasse8717

Жыл бұрын

Yet we "Thank" our military which wastes a trillion a year, makes us less safe (the fake "War on Terror", why are we involved with Ukraine?). You think State Gov't and Fed Gov't waste, hahahahahahahahahaha Come to the Military-Industrial complex, where the people who complain about spending somehow totally IGNORE the waste here cause "FREEEEEEEEEEDUMB!

@rosgill6

Жыл бұрын

even the budgeted amount for office supplies is ridiculous, for example

@bt9704

Жыл бұрын

I agree - Govt employees are paid far too much, especially when you factor in their benefits and pension

@stevep112

Жыл бұрын

As a current State employee, and a friend of a Federal employee, you are 100% right... The waste is shocking.

@busterhoodstar6598

Жыл бұрын

All government run DMVs are a great example.

I love how the Pentagon can fail every single audit and people like this still exist

@Stix_Zidinia

10 ай бұрын

Bro he made 75k a year working 30 hours a week in 2003.. and he's complaining about the system, and yet - I wonder how much of that money he's donated.

@AdmoreMethod

10 ай бұрын

David is a Marxist. He supports the Globalist Agenda.

@Priss933

10 ай бұрын

ask Trump , he increase the military budget by $738 billion for fiscal year 2020. The Pentagon is nothing but black hole for special interest

@daMillenialTrucker

9 ай бұрын

​@@Stix_Zidiniahe ain't donate a dime except for donations to his onlyfans subscriptions 😂

@spinwheel100

9 ай бұрын

😢⁹0

Something that has always amazed me, I'm 66 years old, I have lived and worked in London, Miami, Dublin, Johannesburg and Paris, Many different countries on 3 continents and I have never been Polled.

Davids never been hit in the face and it shows. condescending, sarcastic.

@brettbrashers8423

3 күн бұрын

I was thinking about this the whole time. Getting checked once or twice is good for a man's humility.

@gerryperdigon152

3 күн бұрын

@@brettbrashers8423 David is such a weasel. Even when the other person is just having a conversation, David is trying to play his stupid mind games.

Not sure if Pakman is naive or willingly ignoring the absolutely wasteful government spending. His "govern me harder, daddy" energy is off the charts.

@twixt999

Жыл бұрын

He sam Harris light

@mrmagoozle

Жыл бұрын

I scared my wife in bed laughing out loud at “govern me harder daddy” 😭😭😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣

@ivywoodxrecords

Жыл бұрын

Ya he not centered with himself. Clearly possessed with some sort of ideology. Good content though.

@brandonwalters9437

Жыл бұрын

😂 I just watched the other clip and commented that Pakman is the poster boy for willful ignorance.

@tommydavidwalker2445

Жыл бұрын

Both

Patrick: “The color is blue” David: “What do you mean by ‘blue’?”

@MUSCLETAKEOVER

Жыл бұрын

😂😂🤣🤣 E X A C T L Y

@InfiniteValue

Жыл бұрын

So annoying 😅.

@chadclevenger4251

Жыл бұрын

Annoying a$$ knows exactly what he’s saying. Pointless conversation

@hanamlchl

Жыл бұрын

Fight over definitions because Leftist word salad is the only way to defend their garbage ideas.

@mrt737

Жыл бұрын

Feel sorry for his wife.

This kid is very privileged and has never lost anything or been burned from what he says. He says give more but won’t let someone borrow his leased car, just pay more. I can’t stand people like him.

@GozarianGozar

Күн бұрын

The. kid has never worked a real job.

The problem with taxes is it is human nature to not give a F about other people's money when there aren't immediate repercussions or any at all. The only acceptable income tax rate is 0% at the federal level, and the small amount of government we do need should can be financed through sales taxes, tolls, fees, etc.

@mautc1

29 күн бұрын

Unfortunately that wouldn’t be posible. The federal government is in charge of many vital things, think commerce, federal infrastructure, air traffic control, the military, etc. This simply would not be able to be funded with just sales taxes or tolls, unless they become 45+%. That just would not be feasible.

@cortlandmathers4970

3 күн бұрын

Yeah great idea. I have no interest in ensuring the food I eat is healthy, or the bridges I cross won't collapse, or the schools my kids attend will teach them something. Just give me my money and we'll all be fine.

“I have undergraduate and graduate degrees in economics.” PBD: Well, that’s concerning as well.

@mballer

Жыл бұрын

Did the government pay for his education?

@jamesbuchanan3888

Жыл бұрын

A graduate degree in statist apologia is nothing to be proud of.

@cryptojedi312

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣

@home4life505

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣😅😆😆😆

@st3ppenwolf

Жыл бұрын

@@jamesbuchanan3888 Yeah, let's all learn economics from Q-anon

PBD: Could you make love to your wife better than any of your neighbors? Pak: It depends. Which neighbor are we talking about? PBD: It could be any of them Pak: Give me a specific neighbor. Adam: I think Pat is saying that he wouldn't trust his neighbor trying to visit every time his wife is alone and Pak is saying he should bring more guys with him. Pak: I don't understand the question.

@marcussilva8440

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂

@cathalbutler

Жыл бұрын

Absolutely spot-on, that was so painful to listen to…talk about being paranoid

@youvasquez

Жыл бұрын

you got it, hilarious

@chrisw5275

Жыл бұрын

Hahaha

@danielrakic1852

Жыл бұрын

🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

It's like PBD has a word count. He uses 100 words when one sentence would do. Classic behaviour of someone trying to sound smarter than they are and over compensating.

You can learn MANY debate techniques amd emotional controls from this podcast.

0:28 PBD: Who makes better decisions for your daughter, you or the government? Pakman: What kind of decisions? That gave me all I need to know about this guy

@mrplow2843

Жыл бұрын

Pathetic

@rubyruby6358

Жыл бұрын

That was chilling. Glad I’m not his daughter

@Afellowotaku

Жыл бұрын

I fesr for these people have, they're sheeps. Like literally they'd gladly take anyone as a shepherd... submissive type of people are a true mistery for me

@prosandconsfilms6933

Жыл бұрын

I really wish he spoke to that douchebag Hack-linski like this also

@samsonstrong965

Жыл бұрын

That guy is a sausage

Problem is Government spending, leaving taxpayers and poor people fight each other as distraction.

@Westcoastrocksduh

Жыл бұрын

Government is just the elites piggy bank that you don’t have access to.

@MA1NMANMA1N1AC

Жыл бұрын

The problem is thinking any organization, government entity , corporation really gives a 💩 about you.

@gorkyd7912

Жыл бұрын

@Google Sucks Ass Why would wealth concentration be a problem? You're talking about fake dollars printed from nothing. Those are concentrated. Meanwhile 70 billion people lifted out of poverty, starvation brought to all time lows, and we live lives so comfortable we can chat about it on KZread.

@SK-fp4ed

Жыл бұрын

@Google Sucks Ass The problem is too many people on welfare.

@zadekeys2194

Жыл бұрын

Problem is that if you standup, they arrest you using people that you have paid for...

Universal health Care worked out real good for Canada 🙄

@arianduran1725

3 ай бұрын

Canada has doctors & nurses, but they have no specialist Dr. People needing surgery or treatment & they end up dying because of no enough specialist , bad on the health system. ❤🇨🇦🇺🇲🇲🇽

@mpup54

2 ай бұрын

@@arianduran1725 I have that problem in the good ole USA. Plenty of non-specialists primary care, but if you need something more than that, the county has nothing in the way of specialty even in terms of diagnosing difficult conditions. I think this is almost synergy to prevent people on govt programs to gain welfare by not being capable of diagnosing anything beyond basic primary care.

@CarlFredrik-uo1cu

Ай бұрын

To quote @enclave6285: "I few years back I had a skateboarding accident and was pretty sure I fractured my arm. I called multiple emergency rooms and asked how much an X ray would cost. They all refused to tell me because “we can only give you the price after.” So I didn’t get one. I could barely move my arm for a week. My friend was prescribed antibiotics for an allergic reaction. She was also prescribed antibiotics for covid. Neither time did she have a bacterial infection or any symptoms that indicate she was at risk of bacterial infection. The US healthcare system is not capitalist, it’s a cartel. A racket. A scam. Completely unusable."

@julionunez6855

16 күн бұрын

Yet it’s better than ours and cheaper

I don’t think I have ever found anyone to be more insincere in my life than this guy.

@mikefitzpatrick43

5 ай бұрын

He'd be a good Democrat politician for sure

I’ve worked in government at different levels and the amount of waste is astonishing and frustrating. There’s never a discussion to make government more lean and efficient

@Loganwolfen

Жыл бұрын

Everyone wastes an astonishing amount of stuff. We throw away all kinds of food every year, we buy stuff we don't need, use once then it's stored away in an attic for 20 years

@MrLuffy9131

Жыл бұрын

They spent 43 million on a fence because that's how much the contractor asked and probably they get kickbacks lol

@KsandrPann

Жыл бұрын

"Lean" and "efficient" sounds ridiculous

@Sport8721

Жыл бұрын

You should work in Corporate America. Much much worse and they have people believe that they are efficient.

@fleebertreatise1063

Жыл бұрын

Auditing is a thing the government can do, they should probably be made to do that (and have actual teeth in reducing waste via an audit) more often.

The patience that PBD has for this guy is completely insane. This guy is pretending to be unaware so he can keep living the lie that he believes.

@dustin2835

Жыл бұрын

This is what he always does when he doesn't want to lose the argument

@bobbyraejohnson

Жыл бұрын

Tep

@trentbillings

Жыл бұрын

The interviewer didn’t seem well informed, so David did simplify things a lot for him.

@sg5725

Жыл бұрын

No he is not your not able to understand what he is saying. Most people don’t even understand debt vs deficit.

@Ray-wu5on

Жыл бұрын

Well said, this pakman is clueless……what’s crazy he has over 1 million people following him on KZread. How can he not be able to see this……everything is a mess in government spending. And this dude doesn’t get it, you can’t make this up.

David you were absolutely amazing in this show. You had thoughtful, intelligent and rational responses to this gentleman. Your listening skills are impeccable as are your deductive reasoning abilities. It looked as though this gentleman was not hearing you most of the time resulting in this circular conversation that went nowhere. Outstanding on your part.

@gabriellazo2584

3 ай бұрын

Yes! Thank you! Finally someone with a 3 digit IQ.

@mpup54

2 ай бұрын

well it became pointless because David played this game instead of getting to any of the points. Instead of asking questions about questions he should have just stated what Patrick was trying to say, but didnt frame it very well.

@mack8154

21 күн бұрын

Kept waiting for the punchline..... Pakman is unbelievably disingenuous and dishonest in every single conversation he's ever had. It's so irritating to listen to, bc nothing ever gets actually discussed with him. Such a clown

PBD's ability to keep cool in this conversation is inspiring, David has made a profession out of acting ignorant

@ThomasShelby-xz2fk

6 ай бұрын

David is a smart man. Sorry your brain isn’t on that level

@slave0102

6 ай бұрын

@@ThomasShelby-xz2fk smart man? Pakman is slick. Difference. Difference. Pak obviously is intelligent enough to speak platitudes and tropes but when challenged with specifics that’s when his schtick begins. If that is smart to you, then you must be one of his subscribers.

@AppleOfThineEye

6 ай бұрын

@@ThomasShelby-xz2fk Pfffft.

@o.j.brathwaite7134

5 ай бұрын

@@slave0102 I mean, honestly, one of the smartest thing a human can do is play dumb. A very safe option in life and helps expose your oppenent into giving up more info without asking.

@Corn_Pop_Da_Bad_Dude

4 ай бұрын

​@@slave0102 He's not even slick you can see right through him he's that stupid

This guy has never been wronged. What a life.

@teslah2997

4 ай бұрын

perhaps he is wise enough to choose who he lends things to, and he treats people right and gets the respect he has earned.

@seanm7553

4 ай бұрын

HE doesn't have any friends and never lent anything to anyone.

@jasonchristopher5928

3 ай бұрын

@@teslah2997if only the government was trustworthy…..

@Fstate

3 ай бұрын

The typical pbd listener is not capable of understanding complex ideas

@realReagan

3 ай бұрын

@@Fstatetaxes are theft. we had roads, schools, military, whatever else you want to list as to why we “need taxes” prior to the implementation of the income tax. whatever you earn you should keep. that is too complex for you to understand tho i’m sure.

"Who makes better decisions for your daughter? You or the government?" I'm not even a parent, but the fact that he had to hem and haw and think that question through makes my head feel like it's gonna explode.

@GarrettBradfordTX

Жыл бұрын

He’s pure BETA male. He’d have died 100 years ago from his sheer naïveté

@ordoabchao4202

Жыл бұрын

"What kind of decision?" The fact that Pakman felt the need to clarify that almost made me spit out my cereals...

@billwilson9602

Жыл бұрын

It was an incoherent question and Pakman was being a gracious guest by asking and allowing him to clarify. The idea that public schools and universities should be tuition-free (paid for by taxes) in no way suggests that "the government is making decisions for your daughter". Just a very dumb question to begin with.

@austropunk3535

Жыл бұрын

@@billwilson9602 ok normie

@billwilson9602

Жыл бұрын

@@austropunk3535 Great argument lmao

I’ve come across this several times now on autoplay. What an exhausting (on purpose) guest 😂

It’s very simple. Give the people the power to decide what to do with their money.

This guy is the case study of what colleges are doing to our country

@colinvanzandbergen9377

Жыл бұрын

Seriously, it’s wild that a high school graduate like PBD who doesn’t have a clue how economics works can convince people he won a debate about the economy 😂

@MyselfStefano

Жыл бұрын

*Plus he's highly arrogant and thinks he knows everything*

@donjoseph9325

Жыл бұрын

Patrick isn’t that educated !

@zattu

Жыл бұрын

TOTALY AGREE WITH YOU. I HEARD THIS THEORY BEFORE FROM A SIMILAR GUY LIKE THIS ONE. OWNING MONEY IS AN ECONOMIC DISASTER. WHEN YOU CAN AFFORD IT THEN YOU BUY IT!!!!! THE GOVERNMENT LANDED MONEY IN THE NAME OF EVERYONE AND THEY ASPECT ME TO PAY FOR THEIR DECISION.

@TheMicahwitz

Жыл бұрын

David is the prefect college robot. Recites every single talking point with accuracy, and has a complete inability to think of new concepts or ideas. 😆😆😆😆

30min summed up: PBD: “let me give you another example” Pakman: “I don’t understand”

@Chris-mf6bj

Жыл бұрын

Liberals like to play dumb and do mental gymnastics anytime u catch em in a debate

@franciscorogel2099

Жыл бұрын

Packman: “show me the poll on that”

@Chris-mf6bj

Жыл бұрын

@@franciscorogel2099 lmao 🤣

@midlet

Жыл бұрын

The irritating thing is he absolutely understands and is pretending he doesn't.

@ddbanks8290

Жыл бұрын

But PDBs examples were all false equivalencies

It was either Sweden or Switzerland that cut their way to growth actually. Something like 90% of the jobs were government jobs and they cut alot of that out and now they have businesses coming back and their economy is growing.

@JonathanSmith-kz2jo

Ай бұрын

Sweden.

I worked at circuit city, and only people who were making money selling. The extended warranties were being dishonest, makes sense he did well selling them there lol

David Pakman: "I don't lend anything to anyone. Ever. So I never have to hold anyone accountable." Also David Pakman: "I don't understand why you don't want to give money to the government whom you can't hold accountable."

@dustin2835

Жыл бұрын

He also doesn't understand why all the followers on his KZread channel don't want to pay him extra money to hear the same bs he tells them for free

@psychonautpupildiallater7734

Жыл бұрын

@@dustin2835 His entire show is grifting anything Trump for his TDS echo chamber. He used to be so much better when I first discovered him about 6 years ago?

@psychonautpupildiallater7734

Жыл бұрын

@Mat I agree!

@dustin2835

Жыл бұрын

@@psychonautpupildiallater7734 l just stated listening to him .The followers in the echo chamber are unbelievable. l have to admit sometimes I enjoy triggering them

@psychonautpupildiallater7734

Жыл бұрын

@@dustin2835 It’s a guilty pleasure!😁

“Who makes better decisions for your daughter, you or the government?” “What kind of decisions?” “School” “What about school?” This reminded me of when Bill was interrogated for his inappropriate behavior in the White House and said, “It depends on what your definition of the word “is” is”. But the most diabolical thing about this is that he would argue that I’m wanting an oversimplified version of the discussions, and that he’s sophisticated in his higher assessment of the problem, falsely stealing the high ground while intentionally ambiguating the argument just because he doesn’t want to lose the argument.

@Rationalreason777

Жыл бұрын

Just because you agree with Bet doesn't mean he's a good debater or has any idea what he is talking about. He doesn't even understand the basic libertarian positions that he holds never mind be able to articulate them intelligently. This guy is like a very low rent Joe Rogan wannabe. Rogan at least can articulate his libertarian position saliently and doesn't act arrogantly like PBD. PBD is actually VERY ignorant about econ in general and sounds like someone who read Ayn Rand 40 years ago and thinks he knows something. Bet's analogies and anecdotes were absolutely ridiculous and had no basis in reality during an econ discussion.

@Peterdeskater100

Жыл бұрын

Normally the government never makes a decision about WHICH school your children go to. It's a complete hypothetical. In Europe for example, college is subsidized and you decide yourself, that's why Pakman reacted the way he does. You just look for all possible negative outcome when the government makes a decision on money. It's not about the government making a decision about your daughter, it's about every child regardless of the wealth of their parents being able to go to college.

@Joefest99

Жыл бұрын

@@Rationalreason777 And here we go! This is exactly the tactic I’m taking about. It’s like the person who says something that sounds perfectly reasonable if read from a transcript, however when it was actually stated, it was stated with a spiteful tone. The perpetrator can then say, “What are you talking about? You’re being overly sensitive. I didn’t mean it like that, all I said was…(restated in an acceptable tone). My point is that his tactics were disingenuous, yet it allowed himself the appearance of plausible deniability, so now I have to defend my calling him out from these disingenuous comments. He knew exactly what Pat meant by the initial statement, but we can play dumb and get nowhere collectively if you like.

@Joefest99

Жыл бұрын

@@Peterdeskater100 I used to work in education. Government OFTEN decides which school your child attends.

@MesserNomolos

Жыл бұрын

It’s called the Motte and Bailey argument fallacy. He has a habit of skipping around every single point and burying his opponent in minutiae. This strategy continually keeps the opponent off balance trying to clear up all the artificially introduced confusion while never being able to directly address the point.

these two are like the greatest comedy act without even trying to be.

First off our country needs to quit giving money to other countries as we have plenty of things that don’t get addressed or provided for.

@KKOPPONG

9 күн бұрын

That’d be disastrous for you. America doing that protects American interests in those spaces commercially. Americas strength is influence. If you allow other countries to have that influence more than you then commerce gradually moves from you to them. China being in Africa having a monopoly on mined resources is why the Chinese car market has surpassed the US. Russia being a massive presence in the EU for energy means the sanctions the US imposed on them are virtually useless, how dire would the US influence in Europe be if they weren’t overspending on NATO alliances? If the US wasn’t on friendly financial terms with the Saudi’s historically this great currency dominance you’re slowly losing would have never gotten of the ground to begin with. The US doesn’t have a choice but to spend on countries because the minute they don’t they become useless instantly. You can’t point at a single thing the world would benefit from if the US stopped spending. What value would the IS be to anyone? YOUR economy is backed by our spending with YOUR dollar being the focal point. If you then spend all the money WE give you on YOURSELVES only then what reason do we have to cooperate with you?

Good God. Imagine being his wife or mother. "Honey, what would you like for breakfast?" "Well, that depends, what do you mean breakfast?" "Are you hungry, when did you get up?" "You mean how long was I awake? I was awake in bed a while before I actually got up." "Fuggit, make your own damn breakfast, David." "Well hold on, you didn't answer my question."

@keemeister

7 ай бұрын

Now I see why people call him a weasel.

@calstanke6170

6 ай бұрын

That's how you respond when answering the question truthfully dunks on your liberal views. Painful to listen to. PBD should never have this tds liberal beta on his show again.

@mmafyasco

6 ай бұрын

meanwhile here’s how the conversation actually went: Pakman: Are you okay with paying more in taxes PBD: Have you ever lent anybody money?

@conservaliberal

6 ай бұрын

comical how apes get frustrated when asked wtf they're talking about. do you understand how a conversation goes or do you just ramble from point to point without ever getting to the bottom of the first one you brought up? most likely you ask uneducated questions that when confronted with an educated answer you pull a PBD. talk over the top of someone and make a joke to hide the fact you're completely ignorant to the topic. one could imagine what its like to be around a know it all who knows nothing. brutal

@jrparis114

6 ай бұрын

I guess you mean instead think like a Neanderthal and say I don’t care whatever will stop me from being hungry..lol 😂

You know you have successfully annoyed Patrick when he responds with “Buddy” 😂

@brianbozo2447

Жыл бұрын

and " I love your sarcasm".

@sudorights

Жыл бұрын

It’s commonly used when people annoying you, back then you would say friend not buddy

@talltexanintx

Жыл бұрын

Patrick has demonstrated that he doesn't have the capacity to formulate intellectual arguments but instead relies on how he "feels."

@marshmindset

Жыл бұрын

I was annoyed at 2 minutes and struggled to finish the video haha

@a.m.m.4592

Жыл бұрын

@MRTallTexan1 Agreed. I realized this when he asked Patrick to specify a program, and he said "any of them." Then he asked Patrick if he had an issue with all the programs and Patrick said "I didn't say all of them." Bruh...🤦‍♂️

Taxes started again in 1909 because the US started using a Central banking system. That's the problem.

Really good show, is awesome to have both narrative explained in detail.

Patrick: Ever have someone not pay you back? David: No Patrick: Ever been overcharged for something? David: Give me an example. Patrick: Ever have someone not do what they said they would do? David: Depends on the situation. Patrick: Ever have someone break your heart? David: I mean..., can you define "heart"? and again, No.

@denniswilder3014

Жыл бұрын

It's the democrat mind set.they can't take things out of context they have to be told exactly what you mean they can't read between the lines.thats why they are so hung up on trumps disinfectant talking point.and don't forget these are the folks that put the warning on laundry soap to not eat it.

@servantmichael2514

Жыл бұрын

The answers of a psychopath indeed.

@DaleGribble1

Жыл бұрын

@@servantmichael2514 not a psychopath but rather someone who knows their own limitations and the game they play. Pakman knows how to make himself appear smart and how to work every conversation into a narrow hallway or under a microscope to keep up the intelligent appearance to his viewers. He needs to keep up (intelligent looking) appearances to make money.

@francescoschettino5726

Жыл бұрын

@@DaleGribble1 sadly patrick doesn't know yet how to combat this behavior, fight fire with fire. I could write an essay on how to embarass people like packman. You gotta know what you're dealing with though. Topics have to be picked prior.

@DaleGribble1

Жыл бұрын

@@francescoschettino5726 I don't watch this channel much and don't know how Patrick normally debates on politics but I thought Pat was fighting fire with fire and that's why David kept acting this way, to keep from losing control. It created the odd back and forth. Each one was throwing punches at their respective levels and wouldn't concede any ground. I think David would get obliterated by someone like Ben Shapiro and wouldnt even dare to go up against Jordan Peterson or Noam Chomsky. I only watched bit and pieces of the video. On his radio show Pakman covered up the 2nd and 3rd wave of riots in my city and others. I think he's sketchy trash.

David wants everyone else to give everyone things. But won't lend anyone anything in his personal life.

@dustin2835

Жыл бұрын

He especially wants people to give him money

@TommyGunz327

Жыл бұрын

He is dishonest scum. Always has been. He is also absolutely clueless. I feel sorry for the people who actually follow him and take him seriously

@FazeParticles

Жыл бұрын

He’s a typical bourgeoisie socialist.

@SoulofNapoleon

Жыл бұрын

I’d be willing to lend my friends anything they REALLY needed. They’ve just never asked. Does that make me unwilling to give people “things”? 😂

@divBy0

Жыл бұрын

What do you base this statement on? Did you actually listen? I did not hear him say people asked him but he did not want to lend things out?

The government needs to balance the books and eliminate programs that don't benefit the economy

@mpup54

2 ай бұрын

well then the insiders pocketing all the extra money off the books would retaliate

By far, Pakman is the best debater. No brainer.

Can anyone imagine being friends with this guy, or being his wife? completely crazy. He needs a wake up call on his know it all attitude

@johnklsc2233

Жыл бұрын

I need to see the polls on this

@AFuller2020

Жыл бұрын

He's a limo liberal.

@mattaitken888

Жыл бұрын

and yet... you listened...

@gbassaisaac7553

Жыл бұрын

@@mattaitken888 exactly I don't find him confusing

@Andbil

Жыл бұрын

Know it all while deflecting from any real answers when someone else makes a good point. To him it is just "silly" because this manipulative narcissists need to deride you to prop themselves up, it is the only way their grift works.

I 100% believe he doesn’t lend people anything. No friends no problem kind of guy.

@manictiger

Жыл бұрын

I don't lend money to friends, nor do I rent to them or anything else business-related. Policy I made after someone I knew kept using me as a credit card. He always paid me back with interest, up until he didn't, but it wasn't worth the mental storage he was using. It wasn't worth any of it. I'll lend my help, I'll lend some things, but never money. Christianity warns of usury, and personal usury is the worst. Keep business and personal separate, always.

@Sigrafix

Жыл бұрын

@@manictiger I don't lend people money either, I give it to them and tell them don't pay me back. Saves relationships and prevents resentment of both sides. I give what I can afford tho, that's important.

@manictiger

Жыл бұрын

​@@Sigrafix That's fair. I guess I'm kind of fatalistic, but I tend to spend money on things that'll last. I would like to have someone I care enough about that I would share resources with and defend with my life, but if I have to be brutally honest with myself, I don't think anyone I know will still be around in, say, 10 years. So, I spend for myself, because I know I'll still be there. I want a community, but we've created a world, where work is more important than friendships. Ted Kaz was right. We ruined this civilization.

@Sigrafix

Жыл бұрын

@@manictiger No offense but that seems like a selfish way to live. I do work a lot.. 60+ hours a week and I do sometimes miss out on certain things when it comes to friends and family but it's all worth the trouble not having to worry about my bills and being in a position to help someone else in their time of need without any expectation of receiving something in return. One time, some vandal broke my windshield and the earliest I could have it repaired was 3 days, meanwhile I could not drive it. I can't tell how many people offered me rides without asking, some offered their own vehicles, one even told me they could easily catch a bus to work so I could have their car for 3 days. When you help others in good faith without any expectation of payback, I find that they tend to reciprocate. I've never told anyone "you owe me" nor is it something I've heard myself.

@manictiger

Жыл бұрын

@@Sigrafix I can't help anyone if I can't help myself. Should this civilization collapse, resources I squandered now will be punishment later. I am playing the long game.

Is there a poll for that?!?

Great debate i feel like both made solid points

I love the deflection. He's made a career out of talking a bunch of nonsense that tickles the ear but when pressed he becomes elusive

@nigachu8249

5 ай бұрын

Perfect

@Yoshi-Mooch

4 ай бұрын

“Uhm…. Uh… I need to see the polls” lol😂

@guyrandom6151

4 ай бұрын

talking about PBD eh

@christinalively8292

3 ай бұрын

Where has David been Elusive? He has factual and offers exacting examples.

@Yoshi-Mooch

3 ай бұрын

@@christinalively8292 when pressed for data and stats, which is his signature “gotcha” technique, he stumbles and says he doesn’t have the data in front of him. It’s easy to sound smart on your own show with no one pressing you.

PBD: 'Hi David how are you doing today?" DP: Exactly what do you mean by 'doing'?

@nashefore1912

Жыл бұрын

I laughed out loud😭

@harijotkhalsa9496

Жыл бұрын

PBD: 'The government is like this orange...' DP: 'How so?' PBD: 'Nice sarcasm. Well, since you are obviously an apple lover, do you know the true cost of apples?' DP: 'What are we even talking about?'

@DJ-ov2it

Жыл бұрын

Is it ok when Jordan Peterson does that but not ok when Pakman does it?

@Revolution3030

Жыл бұрын

😂😂😂😭🤮

@martinh1437

Жыл бұрын

Me personally, or my work persona?

9:08 sums up this entire debate

That's always their go-to. Are you willing to give more taxes for good things? What happened to my other taxes that were for good things? They never do the right thing with your money. EVER. WHY DO YOU THINK THERE ARE CAREER POLITICIANS? THEY'RE ALL FIGHTING FOR THAT POWER SO THEY CAN TAKE MONEY.

This guy makes Adam look brilliant!

@SpontaneityJD

Жыл бұрын

underrated comment.

@FloridaLivin_Christian

Жыл бұрын

😂😂

@morriswatkins5667

Жыл бұрын

This podcast is conservative propaganda

@SpontaneityJD

Жыл бұрын

@@morriswatkins5667 ur brain is oozing quackery

@kmarshie

Жыл бұрын

That was spot on.

I like how they keep saying they’re going to pull stuff up but nothing gets pulled up 😂

@mihneabulzan432

Жыл бұрын

they cant move past the first point cause of the huge amount of incompetence . How can you talk about economic prosperity when that kid can't keep a conversation going

@rayshamrock

Жыл бұрын

I agree. David came unarmed.

@cooldrop02

Жыл бұрын

PakMan came 100% armed like for real but he's supposed to bring all these links and everything together? Should he have made a flash drive for him? Because when oboy want something brought up it gets brought up. When anybody else asks for anything to be brought up to make a point, he ignores them.

@jamesblatchford3738

Жыл бұрын

David came and destroyed. Hosts were out of their league.

@kimocoloma4123

Жыл бұрын

Patrick is not being specific and he's allover the place.

There's no way that Pakman isnt a propagandist.

Did anyone notice how this all started??? About government funded college. And the question was asked “would you pay extra in taxes if you could decide where your daughter went to school. Or the government decide?”

Once he started asking questions for the questions on multiple occasions just shows me he's not interested in honest dialogue.

@maximustrolleus9860

Жыл бұрын

patrick ignored a lot of questions too

@Mrtgv7

Жыл бұрын

So you have the same opinion of Patrick then because he did it way more

@gerabadillo7889

Жыл бұрын

All he says is what do you mean by this and then he says what specifically? And goes with the tangent until he is told what he is saying and he says I didn't say that and then he tries to explain in super vague ways how they agree and are not so different. The guy tries hard to look smart by not being really interested in answering anything honestly because everything is so complex and minute to even start a discussion

@jacksparrow3490

Жыл бұрын

One person is using logic and reasoning to determine facts.. the other is ignoring facts to determine logic and reasoning.. not hard to see who's who..

@jeremyellismusic

Жыл бұрын

I’m a fan of Pat and he obviously answered with more questions and even explained that is how he answers questions; with questions. He does it every show. Have a nice day.

This is a good example of a conversation most of us have with someone else. Often they can't formulate a thought or finish a sentence, mincing words so they look smart, and you appear without merit. Circular conversations, very frustrating!

@martinh1437

Жыл бұрын

Just talk to someone else - say Excuse me, do you mind if I talk to someone else. Walk away

@MegaAfrosheen

Жыл бұрын

Yeah pat was really bad here and would get pissed when he would pay it back

@ivywoodxrecords

Жыл бұрын

Agreed. PBD is 100% convicted in his beliefs, they are grounded in real shit. This other guys lives in fairy land (probably brooklyn, North Chicago or a leafy suburb of ATL) However, I think PBD takes a limited view of government responsibility especially in America. Travel across this country you will see which states have higher tax rates, its in the quality of infrastructure. Look at the Rest Stops. The curbs, the pavement. All that shit is govt money dont forget it. The roads in Minnesota are 100x in quality vs Missouri. There is a reason for that.

@ivywoodxrecords

Жыл бұрын

Actually the roads in MN can suck due to winter lol But there are high standards there vs other places, and it is due to the tax base. Also public education. Shit fucking matters man, taxes are important.

@ivywoodxrecords

Жыл бұрын

I hate paying taxes too btw. Fucking hate it.

Its not healthy to repeat lies over and over. The devil continues to make his presence known

David "no simple analogy can derail my playing dumb" Pakman

This person articulates his ignorance well. That's it.

@FactsMatter999

9 ай бұрын

Brilliant …underrated comment

@joeyflorio7517

9 ай бұрын

Got eeem

@goodtalker

9 ай бұрын

Was Pakman once a trans woman?

@riseagain845

8 ай бұрын

​@@goodtalker Have you ever tasted curb?

@goodtalker

8 ай бұрын

I think I had Pakman confused with someone else. What doe's "curb" mean? @@riseagain845

This guy would make a great politician because he dodges questions in a much more enjoyable way.

@robertgelley6454

7 ай бұрын

I see him completely irritating because he blames Patrick for his question dancing.

@onemodapatia

7 ай бұрын

😂 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 30:18 😂 🎉

@WizOWash

6 ай бұрын

DP wiped the floor with DBP. I’ve never seen DBP play gotcha. He was on the defensive throughout. He does not understand data. He could not back up his anecdotes with any substantive data.

@PassengersMusic777

6 ай бұрын

Definitely a good obedient Democrat with apparent adhd

@herealittlewhile7448

5 ай бұрын

​@@WizOWashunbelievable, DP is like trying to talk to a dog.

What’s the poll on it ?

3:15 This guy has never lent anyone ANYTHING. The older I get the more I find that conservative leaning people are far more realistic in how they speak and generally more generous in actual actions than they seem. The. Left leaning folks talk big charity, but it always has to be someone else.

The real nail in the coffin for me was finding out about the grace commission report. Not one cent of your income taxes go towards anything you expect that it pays for. It all goes to pay the interest on the national debt. And don’t even get me started on what created that debt out of nothing.

@Dan16673

Жыл бұрын

@Google Sucks Ass high prices for all, they also have the pop out of large US city

@donsaviano5957

Жыл бұрын

Abolish the Fed!!!

@moopius

Жыл бұрын

Good to see someone else knows this piece of history... Notice it was never acted upon and has never changed!

@khalilfuller4939

Жыл бұрын

Not surprising to me lol…big league macro stuff we’re trying run a country over here

@mytruthslays1303

Жыл бұрын

@Google Sucks Ass norway is a capitalist society with social safety nets. Their tax rates and living expensives are thru the roof. You can find all this with an easy search, otlr find a norwegian online and ask.

Parents: We can’t afford to buy you a new toy, things are tight right now, and we don’t have the money Kid: What specific toy can we not afford Parents: Any of them, plus all the toys we’ve bought you in the past have just gone to waste, we have too many toys already! Kid: But what specific toy do you have a problem with? It’s just obfuscation through asking for clarification. It’s a way to utilize the infinite potential granularity of details to position the conversation where he can be more rhetorically effective. Where Pakman fucks up here is that he isn’t positing a example which builds his own point of view, and PBD isn’t playing his game so he comes off as just trying to be combative.

@Dino2GunZ

Жыл бұрын

Thank you I've been trying to put this into words and I couldn't even come close to doing it as eloquently as you so thank you good sir I thought I was the only one that seen what was going on here

@pohoheli

Жыл бұрын

If you watched the whole interview as well he would always ask for specific numbers and stats for PBD. When PBD asked him for stats back from David when he made broad judgments and statements about conservatives he would either change the convo or say that it doesn't really matter and that PBD was just trying to muddy the waters essentially. Even though PBD was just using his own weapon against him.

@carloseduardomondragon8052

Жыл бұрын

No it is not the same thing. What he is saying is that there are "toys" (bad metaphor btw) that we need to keep paying for in order to produce greater benefits in the future. An example of this is investing in education, which has a high likelyhood of repaying itself in the future and help you dig out of the debt hole

@Droselover-hu1gt

Жыл бұрын

This is not what happened. Context matters. Pakman was making broad statements that didn’t require backing from data. Patrick’s statements did require backing from data

@BD-me4nk

Жыл бұрын

@Carlos Eduardo Mondragón you are like Pakman, the metaphor is never good enough because it defeats your point. We know your point that we have no choice but to continue debt because one option (the wrong option) is to go further into debt to let someone else deal with it. Your side claims all victories and ignores losses.

The problem is that both of them are missing the key point that displaces the younger guys argument and that is that the gdp base growth rates that increased taxes followed are largely driven by inflation and so you are increasing taxes at an increasing curve with the spending you are facilitating by the increased spending! If you have a 4 % gdp increase but inflation also went up 4% and taxes go up 4% the tax burden went up 5%

Adult: did you drink the soda? Kid: what soda are you talking about. Adult: the only one that is in the fridge. Kid: is there soda in the fridge? Adult: No you drank it. Kid: when did I drink it. Me as the parent after the first question: I will literally end you if you don’t understand what I’m saying. I love ya but mom said do it! 😮

The level of patience Patrick has for this gentlemen is admirable.

@Mrtgv7

Жыл бұрын

You mean the level of patience David has with Patrick is admirable

@decadentia84

Жыл бұрын

I can't stand Pakman typically. But David was really hard to listen to hear.

@Vacerous

Жыл бұрын

"Are those cigars?" "Are these gummies?" "What specific program do you not like?"

@Southerngirl612

Жыл бұрын

I agree man

@fattonyd232

Жыл бұрын

Pacman was on the winning side of this debate...

The scariest part of this conversation is that this guy has 1.6 million minions following him.😢😢

@marvelousssssss

Жыл бұрын

Minions is a good adjective, although I am sure a decent portion of them are also numpties

@psychonautpupildiallater7734

Жыл бұрын

Bots

@robertjackson7590

Жыл бұрын

It looks like they've shown up here to counter with their superior intellect. Sad, a product of our college education system.

@WJBrown

Жыл бұрын

And Patrick couldn't give a specific answer on a specific program he doesn't like and you guys follow him lol 😆 😂 🤣..

@psychonautpupildiallater7734

Жыл бұрын

@@robertjackson7590 I troll Pukeman’s channel on the regular, he gets a mix of TDS dullards of all stripes. But I think a majority of his subscribers are bots that he’s purchasing? Seriously. He does have a lot of comment traffic, but it’s a lot of “Love you David. Keep up the good work” crap. And he has a lot of elderly retired fans with nothing better to do, they’re real, cause I troll snd piss em off quite a bit.😉

PBD you were warned about this guy.

"Taxes are as inevitable as death." The only question is how much, what do we spend it on, and why? This is a question we should ask ourselves at the beginning of every fiscal year.

"I'm OK with paying taxes as long as it goes towards free things for me." Or you could just keep the money, shop around and find a better bargain yourself. "But I want other people to pay taxes towards things for me as well."

@jorgemasvidal5834

Жыл бұрын

so no police no military no fire department etc.... you conservative dont live in reality

@ModeratelyAmused

Жыл бұрын

@@jorgemasvidal5834 i'm not conservative. Try again.

@Mirage4492

Жыл бұрын

Alot of people investing on your society like roads and other infrastructures via taxes turn out to be beneficial things for every single individual on that area. So yes people get "free things" that an average individual cannot get alone. What a stupid comment

@rekyks2220

Жыл бұрын

Bad faith argument right there Pablo. Everyone knows a fraction of our taxes pay for that. And we can all agree on that. So take your stupid comment and try again. You think it's some clever tactic to point out the obvious which barely anyone would argue against. You look stupid

@ModeratelyAmused

Жыл бұрын

@@rekyks2220 ease up a little bit. people will refuse to absorb new information if punch them while offering it. there are definitely those out there with bad faith arguments but what he said, is what they teach in school. doesn't make them a bad person that deserves being called names. show them the light. maybe point to a resource that shows what percent is listed. or give them a thought experiment. like someone that says we have to fund our military. i'd ask them if they know how much is spent on our defense at home and how much is spent on our "defense" in other countries. also point out with 400 million firearms in the U.S., who is a threat to invade us if our only defense is a military the size of Canada and 400 million guns in the hands of civilians. if they through out one word arguments back like "lies, racist, transphobe, nazi, etc" THEN they have bad faith.

Sadly to say these are the type of people running our country. He is clueless and a fool. It was hard to listen/ watch this clip. Thanks for showcasing and having this hard convoluted conversation.

@evan258

Жыл бұрын

Yep, they are in the highest forms of government and media and more are created in these woke colleges as well. These people think everyone else is stupid unless they are 100% lock step with them.

@d3j3s3

Жыл бұрын

Pakman says not all government spending is bad, the host tried getting him to say otherwise. I agree it was hard to watch but for me it was all of the bad questions the host was asking

@attackattack100

Жыл бұрын

Pat is the kind of long-winded, stupid example. Who remembers Joe Rogan calling him out on it because joe couldn't fallow his points, and Pat tried to explain, and joe interrupted him and moved the conversation along.

Lol. When the govt spends money to grow stimulation… that money has to be repaid with an interest, no? If I have 1 dollar only… and I loan it to you with 10% interest… where do You get the 10 cent?

I'm just curious if anyone knows. If our government was a lean, mean, muscle car machine, how much would our yearly budget be? Financially speaking, what does an efficiently and effectively working government look like?

Parkman I think did the most perfect representation of what it means to be a democrat. PBD: Can’t have spending without accountability. Parkman: What do you mean by Accountability?

@maccusmc

11 ай бұрын

That's what intellectualism looks like. The details and context matter. Did you think the entire tax system could be explained and debated in 30 min?

@derpestarzt

11 ай бұрын

​@@maccusmc "the entire tax system..." it's simpler than that, the government keeps doing an awful job at spending taxes and keeps getting us all in debt. If you continue giving money to someone who keeps on wasting it and getting themselves and you into more debt why the heck would u continue giving them money?? Lefties have such a weird needy relationship with government, like u guys literally believe the Estate is God lol.

@alejandromarquez3526

11 ай бұрын

If you make a claim that we need accountability, you better have a good definition for accountability ready

@KentBuchla

11 ай бұрын

Nice self-own, my dude.

@johnnyceagles

11 ай бұрын

​@@alejandromarquez3526how on earth does one not understand that basic concept without an explanation? "No government program should spend a dollar without an accountability system setup." "DISAGREE!!!"

Pat freaks out when he’s interrupted yet he interrupts David as much or more. And while freaking out says it doesn’t bother him. This guy is all over the place

@calundoconteal6851

Жыл бұрын

I think Pat may have been a little too assertive here, but I believe his philosophies regarding how we should conduct the economy are grounded way more in experience and practical knowledge, rather then David Pakman's academic knowledge.

@Ixnatifual

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, he's not interested in honest discussion. That's why he interrupts to veer off-topic before Pakman can answer.

@Tavat

Жыл бұрын

@@timperesada4269 Pat is the kind of guy who beat up nerds in high school.

@pcharm3711

Жыл бұрын

Majority of society

@hashish2020

Жыл бұрын

@@Tavat Pat was definitely a nerd who got his ass beat and is now so insecure he acts like this

I've always wondered if social programs were given a definitive cut off point and included skills or job training then were treated as loans where the recipient had to begin paying back a small fraction monthly, at least there would be a potential for money to be repaid into the system. The way some of them are set up now, they will assist with housing and child expenses if you quit your job. Why! My father had a co worker in government who suddenly lost her husband to a heart attack, they had three small children, she made too much on paper to get assistance but was told to quit her job and they would pay for food and housing she was moving up in the gs scale and had a bright career ahead her pay would increase in several years to the point she could then handle her own debts.The system is screwed up and needs to be modified to support not replace payroll,then re pay the loan at an ultra low rate,offer the women a contract and free birth control while on these assistance programs, remember they aren't a right the handouts are free currently with no end in sight and they are hemorrhaging cash,tax payers can't carry everyone.

3:30. David realized he sounded like a rich, spoiled, selfish man so he made up some bs about letting someone borrow something one time.

"My willingness to be taxed" is exactly the problem. At some point, you won't have the "willingness" if you give them the power to tax you heavily. They will heavily tax you and spend how they wish no matter how much you oppose it.

@adrianmachado1200

Жыл бұрын

They already do that bro

@ezekiel5946

Жыл бұрын

Would you agree that they are already taxing us way too much?

@leevy6753

Жыл бұрын

@@adrianmachado1200 Exactly!!!

@leevy6753

Жыл бұрын

@Ezekiel They tax us enough if they spent it wisely. But they dont. And this guy would be okay with being taxed more if it went where he wanted. Firstly, that's wishful thinking. Secondly, he is basically saying he also wants US to he taxed more if it were applied to what HE approves. To that i say, go flock yourself.

@trackingthecoreofstuffandm2310

Жыл бұрын

i much rather have my money go for a public service than go into the pocket of a globalist swap who lobby the government for more free trade agreements with china and try to turn this country into china by forcing corporations to suppress the wages of hard working Americans

PATRICK: HAVE YOU EVER TAKEN A SHIT DAVID: Never took a SHIT in my life, WHAT IS THAT?

@darekf77

Жыл бұрын

hahahahhh🤣

@jgpinto

Жыл бұрын

😂

@beng4647

Жыл бұрын

At a certain point... Patricks questions are dumb enough they don't deserve a response.

@beng4647

Жыл бұрын

David : Are you ok with paying more taxes if healthcare and college are provided? Patrick : Have you ever taken a shit? David : I'm not sure what that has to do with taxes. Patrick : Wait...wait....just roll with me here. You know how it gets runny when you think too much milk? David : ok Patrick : Are you actually trying to say your shit is always solid? David : What does this have to do with taxes?

This is the perfect sckit for Saturday Night 🎉

Rich people do it all the time it’s called investing I’d rather invest my million into a person I believe than a mob who’s not going to give me anything. This guy is killing me

He got him right from the start " You're living in a Frickin Utopia"

@jacksparrow3490

Жыл бұрын

Its called a cult..

@genericdeveloper3966

Жыл бұрын

Wealthy upper middle class liberal. Yup.

@RiaSwiftHealing

Жыл бұрын

He missed the deeper aspects. Patrick is dense.

@dijonpsalm6938

Жыл бұрын

It's is a utopia, but give it some years. Rome was considered a utopia once.

@CryptoChef99

Жыл бұрын

@@RiaSwiftHealing agreed

I’ve been listening to this guy for 30 seconds and he can barely get the governments D out of his mouth long enough to complete a thought. Like holy shit. These people really exist.

@spencerm5913

Жыл бұрын

It's crazy how ridiculous he has gotten over the last decade. He used to argue against censorship and he argues for it.

@trackingthecoreofstuffandm2310

Жыл бұрын

so you want the globalist swaps from davos to suppress laborers and this economy for their benefits

@Mrtgv7

Жыл бұрын

Think about what nonsense you just said😊

@allanthomas6097

Жыл бұрын

You must be deff then... PBD dis nkt articulate himself and his ideology in a productive way

@drewnashty

Жыл бұрын

@@spencerm5913 Sounds like most of the liberals that stayed on that side. Tribal, tone deaf and suffering from slothful induction.

He’s missing the point. The point is, it takes the government 100M to build a bathroom stall while it only takes 1M for a private company to do it.

David pakman never has debates in good faith 💯

@Str8Rippin93

3 ай бұрын

I noticed that too. Destiny is one of the few lefties who can have a good faith debate

How can someone defend the Government this much?!? So scary people think this way.

@solhigh1

Жыл бұрын

If you had no Government you would have nothing. Government as an idea is great, the problem is that the people you guys vote in are corrupt. That doesn't make the idea of Government bad.

@sareight

Жыл бұрын

It’s just laziness.

@arrowslinger2460

Жыл бұрын

weird how when he asked for examples Pat couldn't cough up a single one....

@AngelGonzalez-du7kn

11 ай бұрын

This foo shouldn’t have smart people on his show if he will get mad because he can’t make a point smh

@o.j.brathwaite7134

5 ай бұрын

Because it is working for them and their lives, they care not about how others get to the bag they are protecting their own interests.

I convinced a friend to come out for dinner while he had no money to spend while unemployed. I paid for dinner to treat him and his wife. He then put $50 into a slot machine on the way out of the pub. I never payed for anything for him again. He's basically the government.

@hebber1961

Жыл бұрын

Similar thing once with my niece and brother-in-law. He loaned her money for something fairly major and at a family outing she proceeded to make repeated trips to get instant pull tabs at the bar. He was seething. Some people have no concept of their actions.

@d3maccus

Жыл бұрын

I wouldn't be too hard on them, some people have real issues gambling and are always broke and any dollar they have they think they can make it into more. Its not the like the guy is betting thousands of dollars and buying high roller hotel rooms or some shit.

@marcusrosales3344

Жыл бұрын

@demaccus It's inconsiderate af though. I had drug addicts do similar things with me... They see your own money as disposable because it's NOT theirs.

@stevepatterson10x

Жыл бұрын

The government is actually worse. Your friend, although they were low odds at least had a chance to make more money, the government doesn't the way they spend.

@gugy68

Жыл бұрын

People who are broke for the MOST part waste money on stupid stuff.

Pat do you know the difference between the Group Rate vs Single?

I actually want to see a regular pod with Patrick and David. I believe it would work

This guy is the epitome of why we're imploding. It's frightening.

@DHEspana

Жыл бұрын

Why are the nordic countries doing so well?

@toshland5687

Жыл бұрын

@@DHEspana Are they?

@polishprincess8469

Жыл бұрын

@@DHEspana they're not!

@Kpizzo

Жыл бұрын

Yeah Patrick really puts the d in dumb in this one… he can’t even remember what his guest was saying half the time. He reminds me of so many of our gop senators and congressmen these days. Big reason why we are imploding. Can we get someone who can think for more than 1 second at a time?

@damon7562

Жыл бұрын

@@DHEspana So the only time you people will point out a country that is "doing better" is when that country is more white and has stricter immigration laws. 🤔

Change is needed in November.

16:39- thought that we had the great and wonderful Obamacare??? As far as us having to absorb people who don’t pay their bills. Make them pay their bills!!!

@user-se2tu9ry5o

2 ай бұрын

Yooo I didn't have insurance and apparently was signed up for it automatically. I was supposed to get 900 bucks for tax return. All that was taken plus I had to pay 150! Freaking unbelievable.

Patrick: ok so have you ever peed while standing on a refrigerator into the mouth of an alligator? David: I haven't Patrick: Have you ever put dirt on a tiny dog while gardening? David: I haven't Patrick: OK OK so APPARENTLY YOU DONT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT ECONOMICS

@LetsBendReality

Жыл бұрын

Oh shiiiite! I love this comment. Thank you for THAT.

@Angeni

Жыл бұрын

Legitimately a high level summary of this discussion! Patrick keeps trying to pull rabbits out of a hat to try to “get” David, but it’s not based in fact or reality so David isn’t going to understandably relate because there’s no rationale….

@jamesblatchford3738

Жыл бұрын

Summed-up perfectly…hosts took cluelessness to new heights.

@myamericans1112

Жыл бұрын

Right! David is awesome.

@charliebarboardingtraining478

Жыл бұрын

This is actually funny I respect Patrick but he does do comical shit like this haha good work

Patricks analogies are all over the place....

@michaellitten4538

Жыл бұрын

Not if you have a functioning brain 😂

@ProofintheDoof

Жыл бұрын

I think David was pretending to not understand certain analogies (he is brilliant at doing this) so Patrick started reaching for all kinds of examples to get on the same page.

@mikewoods1005

Жыл бұрын

Patrick isn’t debating in good faith. He’s using bogus analogies to paint David as a Biden supporter to deflect from his illogical views on Trump. Patrick always touts his rags to riches story yet supports a guy who would have kept him and his family from migrating to this country. I lost all respect for Patrick because he’s a rich dude that benefited from Trump’s policies and doesn’t care if the country went to shit because he can live anywhere he wants.

@Zylothical

Жыл бұрын

@@mikewoods1005because Trump’s policies only benefited the rich? Comparing them to now, 2023 seems like a much worse time to be an average American, not just a rich one.

@johnmullins1964

Жыл бұрын

Shows clearly Patrick has no idea to how debate but works in unclear analogies. I liked him until this video. Typical maga vague points

20 Billion here, 20 Billion there, and no one knows where it went. Enough is enough. Yet "We the people" know where 20 dollars are being spent.

Wow, this David Pakman just has no idea or ability to have a conversation. His default is, 'what do you mean' to avoid answering anything or conceding a point. He says he has degrees in Economics and can't understand simple points of taxation, accountability?! Whatever college he went to, it wasn't real.

The fact that he couldn’t immediately answer that he could care for his daughter better than the government tells you all you need to know.

@prosandconsfilms6933

Жыл бұрын

1000000%

@Dino2GunZ

Жыл бұрын

He knows for a fact that isn't true but he also knows the parallel that Patrick was making and that's why he couldn't give a straight answer that's why he couldn't say that he would be a better parent he did it through this whole debate he's a smart guy he knows what Patrick is doing and he's trying to avoid getting trapped and it just comes off as he's delusional he's not typical moves from the left

@rareosts5752

Жыл бұрын

Not only did he not immediately answer he actually said it depends. If I had to guess, I'd say he doesn't even really believe that, he was just intentionally being difficult and also he expects everyone else to submit to government, not him because he'll either be part of the nightmare government or have connections to it

@rareosts5752

Жыл бұрын

@googlenazicompany5935 are you really asking that question?

@justarandomdude6175

Жыл бұрын

There are a lot of people who would take worse decisions for them and their children than the government. It’s kinda silly that you think otherwise