You forgot the Routing in the Slap Part. If you activate it only the Tail of the Slap goes to the Plate Reverb, wich is really nice!

@barneymiller5488

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. I think he would have found it interesting.

@MacReviewzOnline

3 жыл бұрын

Which is the point with this and Epic CLA. Putting the Reverb on the delay - to make it natural sounding. Delay by itself sounds close, and a bit unnatural. Gotta feed into the Reverbs, CLA couldnt be more adamant about it. He has a whole KZread show on it, lol. Mixing with depth.

If you watched the recent CLA videos where he talks about depth, routing your sends through other sends was his main point. Literally the whole point of this plugin is the routing capability, where you can run the delay through the reverb. This is why you either need to research a plugin more before you demo it, or actually read the manual because you completely missed out on the whole point of this plugin. That part where you were like "not sure what this routing button does" - that right there is what this thing is about and what makes it different from other standard reverb/delay plugins.

@overflowbeats6965

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I watched the video first and this demo doesn't capture the point of the plugin well at all.

@flgangcage6313

3 жыл бұрын

Facts!!!!!!! I was like bro you do not understand how clutch this is when it comes to routing. Yeah it better not be higher than $35 but the routing alone sold me... I can make my reverb and delay sound like what I want so I don’t see why he was fussing about that.

@diogofs25

3 жыл бұрын

How is it clutch? Simple routing that you do in 2 seconds in your DAW. This plugin does nothing besides give you the same effect as everyone else very quick, thats why its free

@overflowbeats6965

3 жыл бұрын

@@diogofs25 It's clutch because it does a job very quick like you just said.

@CoachBobbyFinstock

3 жыл бұрын

also good to test it on vocals, works well

When I heard how it sounded on guitar I was sold.

@blcsmith9080

3 жыл бұрын

Poor choice of words.

@cripesalmighty4744

3 жыл бұрын

Its free.

The routing button sends the delay tail into the plate. That's the whole point of the CLA workflow, at least as far as I know.

@bounded2426

3 жыл бұрын

Or just get a normal delay and plate reverb and route them however you want in your DAW. If that's hard in your DAW, consider switching DAWs and save your money towards that.

@MacReviewzOnline

3 жыл бұрын

it is!

He doesn’t seem to know how to fully use this plugin....

In the Waves's review, CLA states it was meant to be used for vocals mainly

@Madrrrrrrrrrrr

3 жыл бұрын

And check their example. It's sounds amazing on great vocals.

@DynamicRockers

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah there's probably a clone of the plate algo of the lexicon 480 with 2x pcm80 style delays.

I believe that CLA designed it for vocals. It emulates his vocal mixing chain.

@vincent3060

3 жыл бұрын

Thank you for letting me know that it's for vocals. I trust your review more, than his because he literally only tried it for 5 minutes and gave up on it.

Try NATIVE INSTRUMENTS “RAUM” REVERB, It is way more underrated, I think.

@SAFAMASTR

3 жыл бұрын

A bit different, but amazing indeed.

@Fuckingtwat

3 жыл бұрын

I love that damn plug-in man. Can get some crazy sounds out of it

@yony_music

3 жыл бұрын

Raum is howly🙏 I love using it on vocal chops👌

@jellewierda3828

3 жыл бұрын

On every project I work on!

@bryndayy

3 жыл бұрын

@@SAFAMASTR Yeah way different usage but very cool. For me I turn to RAUM when I really want to drown something in reverb or use it creatively. This seems like more of a "give stuff natural space" plugin.

When it comes to plugins like this, it would make sense to check out the presets. It's not as painful as reading a manual ;)

@barneymiller5488

3 жыл бұрын

I don't think this freebie has presets.

@BigMuff75

3 жыл бұрын

@@barneymiller5488 it does

I think you didn't get the whole idea of this plugin, it is more about sending reverb in to delay and opositte and blend it together. Check it and find out how cool stuff you can get. I'm not saying that it is not possible with other stuff but for newbies it is something new in my opinion.

It’s literally my favorite reverb plug-in now

CLA is doing this with analog gear, his video's, "mixing with depth" is combined in this plugin, but he uses 10(?) channels reverb/ delays in "flavors" that's what he calls it. These videos are pretty cool for seeing another approach to use FX in a mix.

Thanks for the nice review. I really like this idea: sometimes it's nice to have a plug-in that does one very important thing well and predictably. I think this is one of those.

my first thought was also a possible emulation of lexicon but quite different. but also not that bad for a free plugin. in any case no snake oil

We are setting up reverbs and delays how cla does it but just using our Midas digital console and routing Once you get static mix do passes with hands on faders to get that touch

“...and THAT is cool!” 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

It sounds great with the guitar. Quick and easy, it get’s the job done without much fussing about. Dang it, it gives an instant result! It’s like a magic caulking gun that fixes holes, glues stuff together and seals things with a smooth finish.

@bryndayy

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I would never use this for mixing but it seems great to just slap on while you are writing and don't want everything to just sound dry af.

This thing is fantastic!

If your videos keep coming up on my recommended, I’m gonna phone KZread and shout at them very loudly using this exact plug in so that they can CLEARLY HEAR HOW FUCKING GOOD IT IS

It's about time we see your plate Wytse 😄

@jellewierda3828

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah! Great idea. Would love to see a Wytse plugin bundle🤙 GUI without the screws!

@allenthomas182

3 жыл бұрын

😆😆😁😄😆😆

Dis fing is spectack-ular and spechal. Much love to your channel, and the plugin could be very useful. Thanks.

Judgemental review without knowing how it works how the routing works and how it sounds. Not checking presets,.. stop wasting our time!

@JordonBeal

3 жыл бұрын

I mean, that’s kind of the MO of this channel: shitting on products.

@BigMuff75

3 жыл бұрын

i have to second this

@cococo...

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah every plugin he reviews he doesnt even know how to use it lmao

@brucekai7462

3 жыл бұрын

What a tool.. the guy is shitting on plugins with his “snake oil” nonsense but never posted his music. 😂😂😂 I mean, who is he? Let’s hear his music, let’s see his accolades, let’s see how respected he is amongst professional peers. His opinion should matter as much as some random dick head down the pub who has no clue what he’s talking about.

@casillasscorer

3 жыл бұрын

The point of it is to show that you shouldn’t have to read a manual to work a plugin. Which I agree with. When I’m in a session at a studio I haven’t worked at before, I shouldn’t have to read manuals just to work a plugin

I think you sort of touched on it in your conclusion. These kinds of plugins are great if you are writing sketches and you need something quick to grab and inspire. Then in a final mix, you would probably replace it with your own chain. Also remember not everybody has a ton of plugins, hardware and knowledge, so this kind of plugin is perfect for them. It's also pretty good on CPU which for a decent sounding reverb/slap is a benefit. Overall, I think it is a great plugin to have on my laptop for mobile sketches and inspiration, but I would probably replace it with my own slap and reverb in a final mix.

@paulsaunders193

3 жыл бұрын

Every musician has a home studio these days, but most are not skilled mixing engineers, and don't want go be, they just want something quick and easy to make them sound good. Even if you are skilled at mixing, plugins like these are great to throw onto a track while you're writing andrecording, to give some inspiring ambience rather than recording everything dry. You can always mix it properly later.

@conanliquid

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulsaunders193 Exactly

Thank you

It´s a plugin for solo instrument and in rock it means usually vocal and guitar. It´s not made for snares. What so ever, I did find the routing system very handy and I´m not shame to say plugins with a quick fix is velcome. This sounds amazing on my guitars and vocals.

I don't have a good plate style reverb and it's free so I might as well get it I guess.

It's designed to work like CLA's SSL desk, he shows how it works in his video!

I am devastated that I missed this promotion 😵😭😭😭

@paulsaunders193

3 жыл бұрын

It may still be free - check here www.waves.com/plugins/cla-echosphere The FULL VERSION is on sale for $29.99 Four delays and four reverbs You can route any delay to any reverb www.waves.com/plugins/cla-epic

For some of my weird songs... I'm glad I could download it for free today. :D

@andywilliam367

3 жыл бұрын

Me too, at least it's free or would be price for $30 in the next 2 or 3 months 😅

I downloaded it. I am not a pro. It was intended for vocal, I used it on the Arturia Mini Moog instrument for a few hours. I like it, quick, free, sounds good. It said in the manual that it down samples the modulation down to 44.1 then back up to the DAW sample rate (I use 48), what does that do in a practical sense? I run Logic pretty streamlined without a million 3rd party plugins but like to use a few for their presets - because I can try to reverse engineer the sound with Logic effects - it’s a method of learning something about audio engineering. I think I’ll keep it around since I haven’t tried it on vocals yet. Not snake oil.

I was literally just heading to download mine when I saw you made this video. Guess I better watch this first! Slate is giving away a free plug-in today too! Fresh Air???? It looks great and sounds like it should be good!

@riyazsonday7025

3 жыл бұрын

air eq is good, I have the bundle from them and its in there

@matt_nyc_audioengineer

3 жыл бұрын

@@riyazsonday7025 It's called Fresh Air sorry. I edited my comment thank you.

Most important: CLA farted in the plate impulse sample. That's the real important feature!

@MFKitten

3 жыл бұрын

He snorted a few lines off the plate first. For texture.

@jannik-x

3 жыл бұрын

Goddammit. It's probably true though.

@MixChecks

3 жыл бұрын

It was a silent fart, but still added a little something to the IR.

........and syncing to the project tempo, quarter, eighth, sixteenh etc. which gives it another plus.

You didn’t mention that it’s not just a slap delay... there’s tempo sync note delays as well.

I got the ad for that plugin just before the vid

It sounds good and it’s free, not sure it’s worth downloading though. I’m pretty happy with Echo Boy, AltiVerb, and Seventh Heaven. Have a good weekend :)

@Skkyyyyyyyyyyy

3 жыл бұрын

Nobody in their right mind would compare this to Seventh Heaven lol

@georgepelekoudis

3 жыл бұрын

@@Skkyyyyyyyyyyy 😂 Just saying...used to have to putz around with those units, as an assistant engineer. I’m over them..

@mariotelaro

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgepelekoudis George! I guess that was at Morin Heights?

@georgepelekoudis

3 жыл бұрын

@@mariotelaro Mario! How’s it going bro? Yeah, by the end, the 480 and 224 were a nightmare. Even with calibration, the 480 pulled to one side. The H3000 was 👍

@mariotelaro

3 жыл бұрын

@@georgepelekoudis Very good thanks. Hope you're doing well.

Hey. Santa manages to spread toys to the whole world in one night, and you can't see your way to rating all the Black Friday plugins? Time to up your game! ; - )

@MixChecks

3 жыл бұрын

Seriously. Maybe it's time Santa got into the audio game.

Thanks, I would of missed this if it wasn't for this video!

I got the ad for the plugin when I clicked on this video haha

@MixChecks

3 жыл бұрын

Did you download the plugin?

@archologyzero

3 жыл бұрын

Sameeee

This seems easy to do on my own with my plate and delay plugins. I thought the plate on this sounded nice, especially for free. Delay didn’t do much for me.

i love it easy peezy to use

Looks like 480L

When is there going to be a review on the new Hofa IQ Reverb V2.

Try Slate FG-2a and Fresh Air!

Review the Wires Plug Hainbach just made. its really fun and actually interesting and unlike other plugins

Just putting this out there... Plugin Alliance has ANY plugin for $30! They put out three codes for a limited time so you can do it three times, unfortunately I found out too late and missed the one from yesterday (they expired at the end of the day). I just got the Brainworx SSL 4000 E (normally $350) and damn... it's awesome! Still deciding what I want for my next one...

@paulsaunders193

3 жыл бұрын

Lately they've been giving two of these coupons away at the end of every month. They also have four big sales every quarter, December is the big one - hold onto your wallet!

@Tekkerue

3 жыл бұрын

@@paulsaunders193 really? They've been doing the $30 code for months?... wow, I've missed out. I'll keep an eye on them throughout the month to see what they do.

@paulsaunders193

3 жыл бұрын

Yep. They usually give you a loyalty voucher each month (not on the quarterly sale months) which can be from $25 to $75 depending on how much you've spent with them in the past 12 months (these have a minimum spend, for example $99 for a $75 voucher). These vouchers expire before the end of the month and they often give out a couple of those $29.99 vouchers for the last few days (but maybe not on the quarterly sale months, I'm not sure). Also, if you're a loyal customer, when they put a plugin on sale they usually send you a personal email offer for an even cheaper price, so be sure to sign up for their emails. Not long ago they brought out a brand new plugin for $200, I think the introductory sale price was $150, personal sale price for me was only $100, used my $75 voucher and got it for $25! I recommend joining their Facebook group. They not only keep you up to date with vouchers (in case you missed the email) but people actually give away loyalty vouchers that they don't want! facebook.com/groups/pa.audiophiles

Please leave the link for the songs which you use as well. I love them but I can't find them.

Did you work out to use plate output instead of output ? :). I’m sure you did.

You are the cobra grease in this particular plugin review. You Didn’t use them both in tandem as intended. Lol no disrespect intended, I’m having fun buggin ya 😎

I'm ordering a white hoodie, yellow might be too hippie for me:)

Bro can you review the old school Nomad plug-ins? They have demos and I think they are still powerful. They just need to update on mac

it's for vocals mainly

None of these V12 plugins work with Windows 7 and I'm NOT installing Windows 10 for ANY reason-

I'm not even a huge fan of CLA plugins but Waves plugins are usually affordable and easy to use, compared to other brands, which makes us underestimate this kind of tools.

I have an addiction to Plugins and unfortunately i have spent thousands of euros listening to you. U need to make an episode on how to heal from this addiction :)

@marcelo_afonso

3 жыл бұрын

I was also like thT then i bought the soundtoys 5 and understood how superior they sounded compared to others. Never bought anything again

@JohnWuMastermind

3 жыл бұрын

@@marcelo_afonso Ι actually have them all but rarely use them 🤣

Pleeeease review gainstation

Please review gainstation, first plugin from Mike Dean

Always good to check with you first. Though this plugin is free, its still good to know there is someone keeping it real when doing reviews in general.

Valhalla... awesome free plug ins everyday. Very usable stuff.

Now try Slate’s LA2A emulation and Fresh Air!

Not tryin to be a jerk but the poanning in this video is a bit off axis (mostly left).

I could maybe use this maybe lol

The absence of a stereo expansion knob feels a lot, but hey, it's free, not much can be demanded.

@joshuamctiernan6063

3 жыл бұрын

I downloaded it. It actually comes with a second version that’s takes it from mono to stereo. Really cool

A man should get his delay times right .

what about the oneknob series?

CLA Vocal 👍🏽

he forgot the Routing the delay on the plugin ...

So, now, a few days later, we learn that this FREE plugin is basically a teaser for Waves' new CLA Epic, at an introductory offering of $29. Compared to Free EchoSphere, Epic is a much more complete sonic environment toolkit than the "Slap+Plate (only)" freebie. Looks as if CLA Echosphere is not really a "product offering", so "CLA Epic" is what really needs the review.

I'm pretty sure the plate is a Lexicon 480L emulation

CLA routes the Slap often to the Reverb

Great review. Bu maybe you could try it on "Darude" by Sandstorm? Just a thought

A slap back delay.. How innovative.

Please review Mike Dean GAINSTATION

Free is a fantastic price. I'm OK with the delay and reverb plugins I already have in my DAW, honestly. Plugins are getting to be like fonts - I'd prefer to have a small collection of great fonts rather than having 50,000 fonts to scroll through. But it'd be crazy to complain about FREE.

What’s up with the sudden helium voice at 6:16 ? “That little bit of...” 😉

@andywilliam367

3 жыл бұрын

...dodgy question

I don't get it, there's DDL+Reverb algos on every multiFX. Is it set like a feedback routing that we cannot achieve easily in a DAW? I watched the "Depth" series by CLA and this plugin does not relate to his technique, so I don't really understand.

@MixChecks

3 жыл бұрын

He kept saying in the series that it would be so hard to achieve in a DAW, but I feel like it would be pretty easy. I already send my delays to my reverbs all the time.

@DynamicRockers

3 жыл бұрын

@@MixChecks yeah I do so, all the time. I don't know why they show that like something revolutionary. I use Cubase for decades there's Aux sends on evey FX channel, maybe it's not the case on protools or other DAWs?

@MixChecks

3 жыл бұрын

@@DynamicRockers I'm in Logic and it's easy. I'd imagine it's pretty easy in most DAWs actually.

do the fresh air from slate digital next!!

@Whiteseastudio

3 жыл бұрын

Yes! Tomorrow

@jimashtube

3 жыл бұрын

So far I cannot hear the fresh air. Pretty subtle. Makes me feel old.

You need some black t-shirts!

By way of a suggestion write some of your own music and use that to demo plugins. Sandstorm by Darude has overstayed its welcome. Please for the love of Mike 🙏🏻

I just installed Echosphere. Free is good ! lol

your eyebrows are deceased

I got this but the UI was utterly confusing.

The CLA unplugged plugin is great on acoustic guitars. To dismiss as snake oil is unfair.

What is snake oil

But it's EPIC 😂

It’s a free plugin from CLA so you can’t go wrong. If it was from Darude though......

Hahahaaa "I really like nuclear things" , 5 minutes later "Knock Knock Knock"...... Hello.? --- Hi we are from MI5 & we need to ask you a couple of questions son......

You're point of view that it has a little value, but nothing that exceeds what you already have, is valid ... for you. What you are failing to take into account is that you are literally sitting in the middle of a top end, professional, completely impressive, Hollywood quality audio studio. Sure, given that, the plug-in fails to be life-changing. However, most of us have modest set-ups, and so a totally free plug-in with semi-pro, reasonable quality reverb and slap is a kind of wonderful thing.

Nice plugin, and many will appreciate how easy and quickly you can get a decent Slap/Verb effect. The modulation and routing add a lot, and it's all just a click away. Presets aren't bad either to be honest. The sound on guitars, acoustic and electric, on vocals, and on ambient pads is very nice too. But everybody who would need this already have a Slap/Verb aux channel in their mixing templates, don't they? So after playing with it for about half an hour, I like it, but don't think I will use this very often. I tend to grab my trusted Delays and Reverbs that I am familiar with over this one. But for people who like quick and totally acceptable results, it's a good plugin.

What “snake oil” means ?

These effects could be done with parallel processing delay reverb and a side chain compressor. but this plug-in makes the process faster. Which is great. but people should learn how to do it without this plug-in first.

Sanke oil for me, makes my DAW crash. Meh. Thank's for the review. Which is a real shame because I like it!

Not sure if this millenial reviewer understands... but Waves just 'gave away' here, for all for free, their models of the best studio digital reverbs & delays in history from Lexicon, Deltalab & more still... used in the best pro studios in the world today. Plus they are in one plugin where they can be used intertwined in unison, a studio pro trick of the finest engineers and producers that use/used them. These are the reverbs & delays heard on near all of the top records & classic songs from the 80's til 2000's and many today. These classic units today together would cost many many thousands if you could find working ones in decent condition.

"I like nuclear things" - what do you mean?

@Whiteseastudio

3 жыл бұрын

control panels

@ColonelClusterFunk

3 жыл бұрын

That Neumann console in the studio is in fact wired up to Iranian uranium refining equipment

@TheGARCK

3 жыл бұрын

@@ColonelClusterFunk Iran only wants uranium to power bitcoin mining.

Your funny man lol.

A FREE plugin that updates you to Waves V12 making all your V11 plugs obsolete.

@casillasscorer

3 жыл бұрын

Ohhh so I shouldn’t even download this for free?

@paulsaunders193

3 жыл бұрын

@@casillasscorer Just get it and register it, but don't download it. Wait until you're ready to upgrade.

auto thumbs up for making it easy to skip around the video!

Any other free plugins???

@feggyo

3 жыл бұрын

if you mean reverb plugin, try OrilRiver. the beast beating many expensive plugins

@jeremilicata

3 жыл бұрын

Any plug in that’s free for Black Friday

@jeremilicata

3 жыл бұрын

And thanks! @fegyo

its not any good for me wont work with win 7 64 bit dont get it

Again you are misunderstanding (on purpose?). This plugin is for lead vocals. Next time try how shit a mashall amp is for snare!

@JesseJuup

3 жыл бұрын

This is CLA’s go-to combination for lush lead vocals, based on his settings for two of his favorite hardware units. You can easily blend the two effects using the plugin’s faders - either in parallel, or with the delay sent to the reverb, as Chris does to achieve his unique lead vocal sound. Use this stellar-sounding slap/plate combination to turn any lead part - whether a lead vocal, guitar solo or lead synth line - into the standout element of your production