It seems like modded umvc3 is slowly becoming the new MUGEN, one step at a time

@girlweird833

Жыл бұрын

The "New-gen" but I get what you meant.

@johanhernandez4870

Жыл бұрын

@@girlweird833 I think he´s talking about the game M.U.G.E.N

@GameGuy667

Жыл бұрын

@@girlweird833 Yeah dude he's talking about the game MUGEN lol

@SouLeozinho

Жыл бұрын

I'm pretty sure Magic is making a pun. I think they know.

@anzol4523

Жыл бұрын

@@johanhernandez4870 engine. mugen is an engine... like unity and unreal engine. the executable just builds the game up from the addons built with/for the engine

The combined efforts of both modders making the impossible happen and Max posting up the bounty to get modders the motivation to push forward. Everybody has won this day.

@maskoftiers77788

Жыл бұрын

2023 is off to a great start

@FluppietheRockruffFan

Жыл бұрын

And in the future we might get new stuff like custom animations, custom objects and effects, custom post battle quotes, heck maybe even custom stages too!

@anotherhumanbeing3300

Жыл бұрын

@@maskoftiers77788 wake up we are almost halfway there

@trise2033

Жыл бұрын

Everyone but Capcom

@Americanbadashh

Жыл бұрын

@@trise2033 If it gets people to buy the game on PC, then they win too

It would be cool if we could get an interview with Gneiss (if that interests them). I would like to hear their process, how much time per day they spent on this project, what motivated them (aside from the cash reward), etc. I think it could be very inspiring/motivational to/for other modders (and people interested in modding).

@anthonyrousseau8050

Жыл бұрын

For my part, I wanna see them share a stream with Max as they play UMvC3 together.

@brandonwilliams6119

Жыл бұрын

@@anthonyrousseau8050 YES!

Damn, that guy got paid more than 1st place prize at a Smash Tournament.

@SidneyMosley

Жыл бұрын

When you put in that kind of work you should earn as much

@Zadamanim

Жыл бұрын

he also contributed more to society than any smasher lol

@brandonwilliams6119

Жыл бұрын

Most modders do things for free in their spare time but Genesis scored big!

@Rukir

Жыл бұрын

​@@Zadamanim who wakes up this hateful

@TheMPERR

Жыл бұрын

@@Rukir ME

This modder made history 😮

@colerowe8890

Жыл бұрын

Exactly

@coolsquid22

Жыл бұрын

And 5000$

@poisonjam4564

Жыл бұрын

@@coolsquid22 that guy can take some really nice and deserved vacations

@555minestone

Жыл бұрын

plot twist: he was a original dev of umvc3 and just wanted to make a quick buck

As someone who came up and was in the MUGEN fighting community for many many years, this is def starting to look like 3D Mugen which is a glorious thing

@furyberserk

Жыл бұрын

I'll believe it if they add C Falcon. We all know Iron Fist or Nova is already half the character.

@picc9000

Жыл бұрын

​@@furyberserk Captain Falcon vs Captain Falcon (Marvel)

@coryeller

Жыл бұрын

Saaaaaaaaame. Used to do tutorial vids way back in the day. This looks amazing.

The next thing to mod into UMvC3... Rollback Netcode. This new roster mod and rollback would finally make this a complete game. Fingers crossed that we see those changes in the near future.

@shaqthegr8884

Жыл бұрын

I'm surprised they didn't put that already

@maskoftiers77788

Жыл бұрын

Rollback is a gift would love to see it

@brandonwilliams6119

Жыл бұрын

Not only do we need Rollback Netcode but we need Roll Back, Megaman’s sister😉

@G0rgar

Жыл бұрын

I'm don't know what I'm talking about and totally pulling this out of my ass, so takes this with a grain of salt, but I imagine changing something as fundamental as the netcode without access to the source code is nigh impossible.

@maskoftiers77788

Жыл бұрын

@@brandonwilliams6119 i see what you did there.

I'd say next big hurdle is custom animations. Would make it a hell of a lot easier for modders to more faithfully create the characters in their vision. The modder did an absolutely fantastic job of removing the limiter on how many characters that can be added

@TheRTDZ

8 ай бұрын

From what I’ve seen from twitter, that hurdle has almost been crossed. Still got some problems to fix, but it’s definitely possible.

As a former UMvC3 head who became a Smash Bros ProjectM player, news like this gets me so hype

@hollowowlyt

Жыл бұрын

Project M was the last time competitive smash was exciting imo.

@nothoughtsheadem

Жыл бұрын

@@hollowowlyt melee has been popping off post-quarantine, there's so much cool stuff going on in the comp scene rn with so many top players that can take home titles. the game is more competitive now than it ever has been at a top level

@FluppietheRockruffFan

Жыл бұрын

@@nothoughtsheadem nah...brawl has modding better imo, especially competitive wise

@nothoughtsheadem

Жыл бұрын

i wasn't talking about mods, both are great for their own reasons though. melee ofc has insane netcode whereas (for now) brawl still has really bad netcode. also melee has a way lower barrier of entry for getting into modding than brawl has. that said though the brawl modding scene has been way bigger for way longer so yea they've definitely achieved overall grander things like pm ex remix and the tag battle system with taunts and all that

@RockyTheThird

Жыл бұрын

@@FluppietheRockruffFan Brawl modding is definitely way better, melee will have cool stuff but filesize restrictions and sheer intensity of how much Brawl has been modded just laps it several times over. I wouldn't call it better competitive though, it's just a lot more open.

Thats really exciting i cant wait to see what a mvc3 roster looks like in a year or two

This is what I love about this community and about Max. Supporting this shit just because it's cool. And with Max, putting money where his mouth is, and where his passion is. It's infectious.

@brendaspence1824

Жыл бұрын

Capcom hasn’t said anything about I see.that’s good But what happens when the mouse catches wind of this…..

@madeuinheavan108

Жыл бұрын

@@brendaspence1824 bro what 💀

@brendaspence1824

Жыл бұрын

@@madeuinheavan108 ? What are you confused about? These companies could shut this shit down quick fast and a hurry if they wanted Capcom thankfully is good about fan games as long as they don’t overstep Disney however is a bitch about things,not so much as Nintendo tho

@pizza2639

Жыл бұрын

@@madeuinheavan108 Disney (The Mouse), They own Marvel. Capcom isn't likely to step in, they seem to be fairly lax when it comes to modding and such, rather hands off approach to Monster Hunter games at least. How ever Disney is worse than Nintendo when it comes to smiting people with Copyright.

@madeuinheavan108

Жыл бұрын

@@pizza2639 flew over my head, woosh moment

Maybe someone could mod more pages into the character select screen. Then you could turn the page on the screen like a comic book revealing blank roster slots that you could add the mod characters into them.

@maskoftiers77788

Жыл бұрын

That would be beyond 😎

@poptheweasel100

Жыл бұрын

This is what I'm hoping for too, since there's already a page turning animation for going back and forth between the characters and stage selects. That would make it much easier to have characters viewable

@maskoftiers77788

Жыл бұрын

@@poptheweasel100 at this point i have faith in the modding community but only time will tell

@nothoughtsheadem

Жыл бұрын

that would be great, another cool thing could be to just make it like the mvc2 css although then obviously u run into the issue of what happens when too many characters get added, that said as an aesthetic design choice that would be just as great

@huyphan7825

Жыл бұрын

If Max put up a $10,000 bounty for that they'll get that working yesterday.

A similar thing happened to the Dragon Budokai Tenkaichi 4 mod, where before they had to replace characters, now they can add without needing to remove character already in the game, and the newest patch they restored the content they had to remove. It's really cool and absolutely incredible the talent modders have.

Thank you Gneiss, for changing UMvC3 modding forever! This is a new age standing before us and I can't wait to see the results.

Side note on the modder: I don't know them, and perhaps they choose that pronunciation for some reason, but the word "gneiss" is actually pronounced "nice", not "genesis", and (for those unaware) is a term in geology to describe a metamorphic form of rock formed by changing schist, granite, or volcanic rocks through intense heat and pressure. I just want to make sure the modder gets the recognition they deserve, so that those who remember more from audio than visual won't miss out on following Gneiss by trying to find the modder "Genesis".

@kizzyrussell5041

Жыл бұрын

Totally agree

Who knows how far this game will go now. I don't play UMVC3 but it's been really amazing to see what people are doing with it.

Not a UMVC3 player but this is massive. Hats off to Max and Genesis.

@PAINNN666

Жыл бұрын

Gneiss

The fact that people are discovering new breakthroughs with modding UMVC3 really fascinates me, in MVC1 you also had to scroll off the character select screen on a certain character to select hidden ones such as Roll, Shadow Lady or Gold Ironman, some people even found out how to play as Onslaught which is pretty neat.

If possible, they should create winquotes for the modded characters, and have the voice actors (or really convincing replacements) to voice special intros and winquotes and stuff like that! That could be the next step

@blumoon131

Жыл бұрын

The creativity made possible with this feels unlimited

@K-Rocket

Жыл бұрын

@@blumoon131 Exactly! And more and more of this glory will happen! They could take suggestions one day, and we'll have a fanmade Ultimate MVC3 Dlx or something! Maybe one day they'll create new bosses.. not just galactus...

@FluppietheRockruffFan

Жыл бұрын

Maybe even use the new voice ai

@lolilikedragons3528

Жыл бұрын

Just us AI to get the voice actors voices for free

It finally happened. Goddamn, never underestimate the modding community/fans. With this much creativity, hard work, and endless amount of possibilities for Modded UMVC3, it's becoming like the next gen M.U.G.E.N.

First time actually commenting this early!! Modded anything on a game to make it stand out more and more is most definitely welcome, and this is a huge milestone for UMvC3!!!

Now that this is possible, I might get UMVC3 on my labtop and try all these mods out. 😆

Max is goddamn BOSS for this. EDIT: ITS WAS 3 MONTHS AGO 3? THESE PEOPLE WORK FAST

Props to this dude man I've always played not that good 😅 but max helps guests me even more appreciation for these games 👏👏

I'm absolutely baffled. Huge shout out to the modding community. This is the kind of stuff that gets me emotional, such a great effort

Thank you for doing this bounty thing. It’s so exciting to see a community driven Marvel vs Capcom being born. The latest Captain Commando from CaliKingz is so exciting. I can’t wait to see where this all goes in time.

This is genuinely fantastic news, can't wait to see what comes after!

Maximilian YOU ARE MAN!! Thanks for setting this in motion we already got tabs palette swaps working when kalli king and emcs mods are added not to mention others in the community this will be the best fighting game in existence😎

@Maximillian, Imo it looks like you have two approaches: 1. You create an entirely new UI and add the character slots you need that way. 2. Or you create a go to next page option for the modded characters, just use the page flip animation and add a new page.

@twistedgambit9084

Жыл бұрын

That second idea is kinda cool!!

@Egganopolis82

Жыл бұрын

You would still need a new UI though, because there are two players. So maybe condensing it to each players side and have pages? Realized the design flaw later after thinking more about it.

This was really awesome. Community def put in the work, n Max paid up🔥💪🏿

Capcom: You just don't know when to give up, do ya? UMvC3: I can do this all day

@dnmstarsi

Жыл бұрын

Capcom is fine with these mods, dude. As long as they don't profit from them, they CAN do this all day. FYI I know the reference, just saying.

Custom animations and rollback are what's needed to just make this game 3D MUGEN. Rollback is being worked on but custom animations is the next big hurdle IIRC.

This is a big get, the technical issues with character selection is solved redesigning character selection can now be an option.

Once Super Smash Bros Brawl got a roster expansion tool… that is when the modding scene blew up. That via the Project M dev team is when Smash mods truly began, and what lead to things like Melee rollback in Slippi, all the other game mods, and the variety of awesome tools and fan made features made since then. Seeing this for Marvel vs. Capcom… this could be the start of something truly special.

Remember when a blue and yellow model with no shoulders was the most impressive part of modded mvc3😂

A major modding breakthrough to be sure, I agree that an Animation Importer as the next goal would be ideal, the sheer creativity and options that would open up for the modding community would be excellent, to say the least.

The thing i love about this is that modders used a +10 year old, fan favorite platform and still found a way to improve the functionality to a point that was considered nearly impossible. It's stunning, nostalgic, and I love playing this game again. My only fear is now if the devs sees this and say, "well we can't beat that and there's no point if the players will prefer playing modded umvc3 over buying a new game, so we are axing production on any future mvc titles." 😢

A new golden age of Mahvel is dawning. Brings a smile to my face and a tear of joy to my eye.

Max dood, from the bottom of my heart, thank you for keeping MVC3 alive

Serious props to Genesis. I hope they enjoy a well deserved break after all this work. After this I hope the next breakthrough is someone figuring out how to do custom animations for modded characters.

Ooooooooh, I'm excited to see how much further this goes.

Maybe when someone works on the character screen it self, would be cool that the original characters be on the "front" page of the book and the modded ones on any other pages, using a with a button the change pages

I heard about this during the modded torny last week. I was not aware it was so close. This is huge. All the characters that were cut, all the ones we wanted. It's all possible now... wow.. That poster on that stage with all the missing people should be edit to 'Everyone WILL be here.". No apprehended, MIA or at large here. Edit: Go buy this game now people . Don't want to have this not be avalibe later down the line so get it in your libraries ASAP. Also, just cause it has to be said, "Genesis does what Capcom don't."

This guy literally went beyond

Just commenting to increase engagement and reward this series of events.

GG max, you helped move this game into the next level. I may not play fighting games stuff, but i love seeing the community take care of itself and the modders that push the game to the next level.

I love it man, Max really putting his money where his mouth is when it comes to supporting the shit we've all come to love over the years that's some next level shit man and right out of his own pocket.

Im no expert but im guessing its super close to just making a new character select screen with the positions of the new characters displayable, although this is about 99% all that matters, I'm ok with modded characters having to be secretly inputted, it's very charming and old school.

Finally, UMVC3 has a *GOOD* roster now!

Thanks for the support Max. The marvel vs Capcom fans salute you. And of course Gnesis too for the work put in. OUTSTANDING!

great job to both of you for doing something this important for mvc3

this opens the door to umvc 3 being the best mugen-style game ever now.

Let’s goooo! Here we are, in 2023 where dreams do come true. All that effort and hard work is paying off, Max! And Gnesis for going beast mode on the mod!

This is very impressive. I hope someday to be able to take on these sorts of projects.

Bro this is sick and reminds me of early Project M excitement.....they should if possible change the page on the CSS for the new characters that'd be dope

They gotta keep making characters as much as mugen. Cause this is the best fighting game to me. The art and color depth fighting style the pixilation everything way ahead of its time especially how mvc 4 came out lol.

@Aluran

Жыл бұрын

They literally could port models in from other games

@lajeandom

Жыл бұрын

I don't know, I much prefer mvc2 personally, never like the dark outlines around the characters of umvc3

@fishyboi98

Жыл бұрын

I totally get the MUGEN comparison but I think it's important to understand that UMVC3 and MUGEN are two VERY different things. MUGEN is not a game, it's a fighting game engine. People aren't modding MUGEN. UMVC3 is a game, and more importantly, there's a much more solid idea of how it plays. Modders are working within a confined structure to make characters that fit with the UMVC3 style. That's not a thing with MUGEN. Most characters people make for MUGEN are ports from other fighting games that were rebuilt using tools like FighterMaker that help streamline the process.

@brandonwilliams6119

Жыл бұрын

I wonder if we’ll get Roll from Tatsunoko Vs Capcom with her Broom

@topmugen1654

Жыл бұрын

I want to create characters in mvc3 but I don't know how... any tutorial?

i was not ready for that Riesbyfe PFP. Great job for the mod Gneis

An effort like this is honestly crazy, and I’m glad to see it worked out! And speaking of modded UMvC3, I wonder if they could add Star-Lord into the roster. It could be fun to see!

I can not WAIT to see the possibility and range of characters that we could now have, thank you Modders!🙏

Max lowering the volume on the intro music is the real story here, such a pleasant surprise

i'm glad the Modder found a way to add new character with replacing them as a Standalone functioning Characters for UMVC3's MT Framework Engine! now i can play Arcade in peace! heck we might get custom intros and custom endings Let's Go!

@Android-Twenty-One

Жыл бұрын

Custom endings are possible but not Custom intros yet.

Let’s go!!! I’m so hyped for it!

this is great and im glad great improvements are upon us. unrelated to THIS mod, one mod i still hope somebody does is for Vergil's DLC costume. the costume comes from one of his costumes in DMC3SE and when he goes devil trigger he turns in to Nelo Angelo. in UMVC3 he just also turns in to Sparda like Dante always has for his special costume.

Nice move! Hope the progress won't halt any time soon

You could have the comic book flip to another page to show all the modded characters! I'm no coder but that would be pretty awesome. I look forward to the future!

@dnmstarsi

Жыл бұрын

Yeah except that could mess with the other player if you were playing locally. Besides, the current setup is reminiscent of MvC1 and MSH vs SF where hidden characters were selectable off roster.

Insane. Thankyou for supporting and hyping up the modding scene! I can't wait to see the UMVC3 modding scene explode after this development

Give it about a week or so for Max to come out with another video for the most recent mod trailer.

I don’t know if the software has limits (unless it’s on an emulator) but if there’re zero memory restraints, this could be the next generation of mugen. I hope Rugal Bernstein is added to the modded roster!!

This is why we follow Max!

I suppose I may have over-estimated what constituted as breaking this bounty. I thought it would've been "hey here's more slots" but Max taught me we're a long way from just plain *adding* the slots to a character select screen. What we really needed was for assets to not conflict from existing characters, and now that that hurdle has been broken, UMVC3 is now on its way to actually having a MUGEN screen of its own. And honestly, I never thought about something like that, that existing assets could outright conflict with added content to the point you used to have to replace them and there was no getting around it. But now that base characters and mods can coexist, the floodgates have opened. Good on you, GNEISS. You've done us Mahvel fans proud.

I both can't believe it and am super happy to hear it!

It would be so cool to see the page turn on the character selection screen in the future

You ain't alone Max, we can chip in too

This is so cool. Wish I had access to it but until then I am happy for the community.

It's finally time to have fun, all of it

Well done im truly impressed, power of the fighting game community.

thumbnail really goes "I WOKE UP IN A NEW BUGATTI"

That's amazing. Modding community rebirthing this game again and again.

I mean, Max is right. This is a win for sure and no doubt a first in the world of modding where a niche notable internet personality openly spent a fair amount of money to get a very particular thing done but, in the scope of what makes a game it's very minute. Having done a small amount of game development work in art school these kinds of menu based issues involving assets working with selectable parts of menus as just a function in the game isn't exactly cutting edge given it's mostly finagling code and having the assets to plug in but, the thing that makes this interesting is that it's basically one giant work around for porting in characters that fit a programmed mold that didn't break the game at all and seemingly will allow for more work to be done in the future which is a rare animal in the world of modding given so much of it stays safe and cosmetic for most games. In the world of normies who pay attention to video games it simply sounds like a bunch of nerdy inside baseball which it is but, it's definitely an interesting turn of events especially for the fact Capcom hasn't done anything to stop it...yet.

@TheTrueProdigy101

Жыл бұрын

Who was this for lol

@SiouxTube

Жыл бұрын

​@@TheTrueProdigy101 I suppose anyone interested in what this represents but also for those starry eyed people thinking this represented some mod in-road to bring MvC3 into some new direction it probably won't achieve. I was also mostly agreeing but also bringing up something that Max brought up before he made the bounty for this game mod a couple times. Capcom doesn't seem to mind but, game developers and publishers might eventually take offense at this kind of thing if too much work is done such as it is. It sounds promising but, it can go too far eventually even if it's kinda cool, technically. It usually has stuff to do with legality issues for the IPs involved especially if this ever tries to get used in a tournament setting. Nintendo went hard in the paint to completely box out the Project M mod and it fed into the overall Nintendo attitude of just not wanting to allow Melee tournaments altogether. It's a slippery slope and should be kept in mind to keep the expectations low just in case development stops for some reason.

Watched that video but i didn't understand what was going, but thank you for explaining it to us

This makes me want to jump back in the game! You should make a video on your top five arcade sticks. I’m really interested in picking one up now.

you can swap the portrait to an portrait of both characters that can be chosen at that slot with the buttons to choose.

The page flipping over to a new page with all new character slots be a cool visual.

Alright!!! Let's Go.

I think one thing that is not really mentioned is the reason the bounty may have been needed. It's not just a "people will do things for money", it's basically that it is a LOT of work. Gnesis probably put a lot of other stuff aside to work on this. If dude is a freelancer, this could as well be his paycheck. I'm pretty sure there are people willing to do this kind of stuff for free for the games they like, but being willing and being able to are two different things, let alone finding someone with the necessary skills, and Max here was the key to make someone do the jump between the two. Huge props for both him and Gnesis for the mod work.

It would be awesome if it was just a page turn for more characters with new icons. Bonus would be if the new characters had unique character select panels but that’s a lot 😅

Part of me wonders if MvCI will ever gets Mods as well.

When I saw the tweet, I was confused about what it was doing, but this and a reply to my reply on that tweet made sense and glad to see this now in UMvC3.

Really cool dreams coming true this week.

Can't wait for updated character select screen, gonna look super dope 👌

Finally tournament ready ❤

The thing is, if we are going to expand the roster further, having a segregation of Capcom vs Marvel would be a relic; possibly a new UI would have a separate section specifically for modded characters.

Shout out to the guy and you Max , ggs n thanks

The Naruto storm community figured this out a few years ago also, because the character select screen is multiple pages, that you have to flick through to find your character, the modders would just add in more of those pages with the same amount of character slots for new and different characters, I never really thought about it untill now, thinking it was an easy thing to do, but after watching this video, it makes me appreciate the modding community that much more than I already do ❤

Nice! Look up rise of rookies, they run weekly tourneys and keep this game alive 🔥

WOW THX MaxDood 🎉

This is why max is Goat always working with and for the community to keep the games and genres we love alive

These mods are impressive. I like to think of this of secret character's (our dream characters that we wanted in the character select)

i hope this leads to a community release that combines all the best characters from the modding scene that does a tour at major tournament holders like combo breaker and CEO.

this is amazing, and first thing i was going to say was lets get a character select screen that displays everyone. max you out here doing gods work