As someone who watched a lot of Marvel 3 in it's prime I never fully grasped how TAC infinites worked, but seeing it laid out like this really helped. The part with jumping just as you hit the ground is very similar to Alpha 3 crouch cancel combos and knowing how rough those are playing A3 so much, this really gave me a whole new level of respect for the shit I'd see these dudes pull off so effortlessly. Great video man!

@GodLovesMe666

Жыл бұрын

You just hold up to avoid any frames of going back to neutral, that's all. The logic is very simple.

@gamehhh012

Жыл бұрын

Yeah, basically. There's a specific frame of animation for each character that allows the infinite to happen.

@marcisarn2365

Жыл бұрын

@@gamehhh012 but you have to hold up and then a direction with S button ? i don't understand

@modest1989

11 ай бұрын

​@@marcisarn2365that's how you initiate the tac to begin with. When you press s and a direction to tag in your other character in the air your opponent can guess what direction you used and if guessed right they stop the combo. That has nothing to do with the infinite though since that takes place after you successfully air tag your second character in

MVC3 history: Doomface is the one who started Doom TACS in the first place. Even Marlin can attest to this as he was inspired and evolved the TAC game much further and did them in tournament for the world to see. Marlin then became a pioneer and came up with with his own tech like "Follow my lead." and new setups for years to come. They both deserve recognition.

@Wheatsolo

Жыл бұрын

And, I feel like TAC are still underused meta. Like people are good at the guessing game.

@accordingtoabe2211

Жыл бұрын

i came here to say this as i grew up with doomface. he was one of the ogs at the arcade i went to, where i learned to play from lots of tourney level players,before i even knew what the fgc was. i remember watching him experiment with what would come to be the blueprint that marlinpie went on to modify.

@slim3710

Жыл бұрын

@@Wheatsolo under used?

@Wheatsolo

Жыл бұрын

@@slim3710 under used is a term for things not over used. I think TAC is UU not OV.

When ppl mention the term swag in mvc3, Marlinpie always comes up he's one of the pioneers of style and swag in this game. And btw do u happen to do the nova dhc glitch to get those camera angles in game or is it through mods?

@PapaLobster

Жыл бұрын

There is actually a mod now that allows free camera. Look up UMVC3Hook by ermaccer

I recently got into marvel 3 and this video helped me grasp how tacs work, I didn't fully get it before this (I also didn't know the directions did different things). Your channel deserves more subs.

@destroyerofgods134

Жыл бұрын

You tryna play?

Good video bro marlin doesn’t get enough recognizing I feel like. He was godlike at xrd too

@TheMixedPlateFrequency

Жыл бұрын

I always liked watching his matches. What does Marlinpie currently do now or does he still play fighting games currently?

@forestlaw89

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMixedPlateFrequency he plays on stream. He mainly plays fighting games.

@Allothersweretakenn

Жыл бұрын

@@TheMixedPlateFrequency guilty gear at night, couple months back he came back to marvel and released a shit ton of high quality vids on his KZread channel

@TouchDirt

Жыл бұрын

Dude I remember watching him play XX back in like 07. His eddie was disgusting

@wideawakeanimal1

6 ай бұрын

Only because he isn't as active today but back then he for sure got his recognition. People couldn't wait for Marlinpie to show up on stream.

Awesome video. If I can put in a topic request, I've always wanted to see a retrospective on the history of Dark Phoenix and her counterplay (Ageojoe vs FChamp, etc) in vanilla MvC3 especially.

@PapaLobster

Жыл бұрын

OH that's a great idea actually! I'll add it to my list ❤️

MarlinPie was definitely a pioneer in terms of swag. The slight against him was his lack of tournament wins. He’s one of my favorites to watch because he’s so entertaining but he wouldn’t be so underrated if he prioritized winning over the more stylish yet riskier combos

Marlinpie Vs Alukard is when we first saw the TAC infinite tech. It was the at the Curleh Mustache for an exhibition.

When I first saw marlin do his thing I was instantly hooked, been 10 years and I still play umvc3 and still play doom because of this man. I even have a doom Tac infinite video I uploaded inspired by marlins combos. You have a new subscriber

Marlinpie was one of the 1st players I watched in MvC3. Back during 8 on the Break. Man was always a pioneer!

You don't get enough recognition. This channel needs more views with good content like this! Hope the algorithm blesses you soon 🙏

as a TO for BigE events and others i just want to say your content is amazing and well paced and its cool seeing clips from events from years ago keep it sick dude !!!

@PapaLobster

Жыл бұрын

There is a very high chance we have run into each other then haha! Went to 90% of BigE tournaments from 2012-2017ish

so happy KZread decided to recommend me your KBR video yesterday, otherwise I'd have missed this gem as well. definitely subbing and keeping a close eye on ya (:

Yo I don't know if you only do just marvel vids but this was awesome. You should do a breakdown of the comeback run that Gallileo made in Blazblue all those years back at Evo - for me personally it's one of the few Anime Evo moments that really defined what the future of the anime meta of the FGC that we see today.

Another absolute BANGER of a video, even as somebody not particularly familiar with FGCs it was a great watch

Dude love the Marvel content. Would love to sse you talk about Cloud805's Dante. He was wild with that character

@PapaLobster

Жыл бұрын

😉 You definitely will

This is one of the best videos talking about the Marvel 3 meta I've seen. A shame I never got the execution to pull of a TAC infinite at all, but the innovation in combos alone displayed by MvC3 players is one of the most impressive I've seen in a fighting game (if not the best straight up)

damn bro it's really awesome to finally see someone make content for UMVC3, i've been playing and watching this game for years but there's never been any super well made content for it that covers the history of the game's meta the fingercramp videos and ect are mad nice, but people don't do it up for marvel like they do other games imo

up tac increases damage??? holy shit you learn something new everyday!

This is a great basic explainer for TAC infinites in general as well. Great job!

Really enjoyed this video and the KBR vs Fooblat vid. Subbed hoping to see more old school umvc3 breakdowns!

Very interesting history lesson and deep analysis on mechanics of umvc3. I enjoyed your video a lot. Just to clarify something that would've been worth mentioning on the video. The TAC infinite was discovered by a player named JosixOverlord with Trish as he posted it in his first video, with the easiest to perform down tac infinite. Then he uploaded a side infinite with Trish too. After his discovery his video blew up just weeks before evo 2012 so people had little time to implement the tac infinite, let alone experiment with their character. As you mentioned on the video, Sentinel was one who could use that infinite reliably (more so than trish). Since the video is already done and the algorithm did its thing, maybe you can credit him in the description. Great content overall.

There will never be another fighter to get me as hype as watching umvc3 did.

@hkslug80

Жыл бұрын

Third Strike comes close for me but yeah, can't beat UMVC3.

@Ilyak1986

Жыл бұрын

GG Xrd. Strive seemed to nerf the spectator.

@user-ci2yr4wd7o

Жыл бұрын

Guess no mvc4 possible we're stick with mvc3 for the rest of our life.

@-8h-

Жыл бұрын

I think DNF duel has the potential with future changes and additions. Possibly project L

Love this historical perspective of marvel, please keep them coming! : )

This is some dope content. I definitely would love to seee more

All these names I forgot years ago are coming flooding back as I watch your videos. I'm glad Mahvel history has a keeper.

man, Disgruntled GOA, that's a name I haven't heard in eons.

UMVC3 is my favorite fighting game. Your video does a very good job at explaining and capturing the hype.

Love your videos bro. Brings me back to the good old days of MAHVEL

a sick video discussing sick tech, keep it up man

thank you for this video, I never understood very well how the fights work in marvel 3, this was very informative and well explained

Love ur MVC3 vids. I’d love to see your thoughts on some of the old Vanilla glitches, like quicksilver for Dante.

nice video im playing umvc3 on 360 nowadays but im not very good its nice to learn more about tacs im getting a little hang on hitting one or two tac executions

just got into this game and these vids are awesome. love it!

very nice content my guy! keep at it!

more videos like this please... i love this.

Enjoyed the videos man.

Great video man, you got a new sub.

This is a great video, I watch alot of marvel but never understood the intricacies

Thank You! Cherishful Memories!!

great videos man

This video was needed. Thanks.

I LOVE this video. thank you.

It's stuff like this that gets me into fighting games I'll never be able to do something like this, but it's fun to do cool stuff in these games

"You mad? Cause I'm styling on you!" always gets me lmaaoooo

Enjoy your marvel videos! Great watch

i cannot remember for the live of me what tournoment it was but there was a crasy FT15 between knives and nemo back in the day, that i would love to see covered

finally someone putting recognition on marlin pie cause HE DEFF was swag combing folks not knowing whole time the man was 1 step away from infinites!

Good shit. Just subbed

MarlinPie literally innovated the entire tac infinite meta. always will be my favorite MvC3 player!

Great video!

"You best start believing in cutscenes in fighting games, you are in one" -marlinpie

Ty for this video, I subscribed and liked off of this one.

great vid !

Keep it up bro !

Marlin Pie is even known in México

made me tear up like james chen rn i love the fgc just too much hype

you mad cause im styling on you"... a meme that was lost my brain recovered

great breakdown

Pie still have the best combo of all time!

Nice vid!

This man was ahead of his time lol

Fun fact, the TAC infinite glitch and some other glitches that are now used at high level play were 1st discovered/documented by AgeJoe/Kusoru. He uploaded a video on youtube/nico nico explaining them, and that video was submitted to the SRK staf that ran the front page, so they posted an article with the translation. How do I know? I was the one that provided the link to SRK since I followed him for his GG videos and at the time I thought it could be interesting for tech (little did I know it would be the tech, lol), so I contacted d3v on the forums since he was part of the staff/mod team. This was even before Marlinpie's showcase of the glitch. I don't know if Marlinpie learned about the glitch all by himself, or he learned it from SRK (he was active on SRK at the time) or due Kusoru (he already followed him at the time, since he is a GG player before playing mvc3), but I know if it was the later, he expanded on it, since when Kusoru showcaded it, he showed some infinite combos with Sentinel and I think Doom?

hey father lobster, question; is it required to play a top tier team to compete in mahvel 3 (or even mahvel 2)? I've been thinking about genuinely playing and learning the game for a while, but it's difficult to choose my characters when there's so many options

@nathanl8769

Жыл бұрын

Marvel 2 you'll get rocked. Marvel 3 you can compete but you're going to have a tough time vs top tiers. Usual stuff with lower tier characters

@supercoolfacething

Жыл бұрын

MvC3 basically every character can have some ridiculous niche use. Except for Hsien-ko. Nobody has figured out what to do with Hsien-ko

As someone with no expefience in this game, this bideo was hella entertaining, well done.

la primera vez que vi el combo de marlinpie de la vuelta al mundo con dr doom me voló la cabeza 🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯🤯 he pasado horas intentando combos similares pero sin buenos resultados, a parte de tener una gran tenacidad , la clave es la creatividad siendo uno con el personaje, conocerlo al 1000% marlin pie es un genio que convirtió a umvc3 en una obra maestra

Seeing my favorite game get attraction again, with a goated explanation as well, is enough to make a grown man cry.

Those were the times when the combo makes me go ooohhhhh!!!

Some analysis on usf4 matches would be cool

@PapaLobster

Жыл бұрын

Will do! I got a few planned actually

Amazing video

it was so hype when the Mics used to get cut off cuz of the loudness from the commentators and crowd

Marlinpie was always my favorite player to watch. His Viper was insane and so stylish. A legend.

tac infinites can still work even if the enemy gets knocked down, hitstun scaling only resets if the player doing the combo lands without being in recovery frames. chun li tac infinite knocks and uses otg

Me and my brother got into UMVC3 right after seeing MarlinPie Doom Tac Infinite.... it was so OD!

I witnessed the first time 🥧 pulled this out I lost it…..man this marvel series is so dope and brings back too much nostalgia these were truly the last of the golden era of fighting games…good job 🥲🥹

Good video. Great channel. Subscribed (127th) Few things- *NO ONE* says 'tac'. It's T-A-C. *Doomface* come up with the Doom TAC tech. Marlinpie combined other tech and his own innovations to add his style to (and optimise) it. *The first TAC infinite was discovered with Trish (I've forgotten who by). _LiquidMetal_ then discovered a Magneto infinite. Then the community began discovering ways to perform TAC infinites with the cast.

@Tombos

Жыл бұрын

The Trish video that started it all kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZYxlydaJeq2eiqg.html.

@ericalasagna

Жыл бұрын

I have never heard anyone spell out TAC, it's literally more of a mouthful to do that, but okay

@Yawdan

Жыл бұрын

@@ericalasagna then you're new to Umvc3, a *game that's 11 years old. Go watch a professional match; TNS (Tampa Never Sleeps) have weeklies.

@dreadpiratekiel

Жыл бұрын

El Gato had a large hand in this tech as well

@Yawdan

Жыл бұрын

@@dreadpiratekiel the OG

Holy shit how have I never noticed that the directions of TAC actually have more effects on the meter etc

4:20 great edit😅

everybody remembers seeing their first Marlinpie combo

Yeah i’ve heard this guy’s execution being quite impeccable

Take me back to the golden days ❤

Can you do a video on fullschedule? U got my follow

As someone who only started following this game in the Parsec era it really hurts my brain to see maps other than Bonne Wonderland 😅

I feel asleep to this video and my parents found out that I wasn't sleeping so they beat my ass. 100/10 video would watch again

I don't even play fighting games. I just love the story behind the meta of any game.

Man, I miss those moments...

i had time to finish a whole sandwich before Dooms combo ended. Not a joke. I was eating a sandwich watching this and i finished before the enemy died

Evo 2017 Pools Readman vs Jibrill is one of my favorite humilliations in UMvC3 history. Feel bad for the guy because he CRIES! But the Yipes commentary is GOLD 😂

History was made that Philly afternoon

This is absolute peak of rock paper scissors!

Sentinel TAC only on corner? I can do it wherever i want haha what are u talking about? 😭💔

Long live Marvel! Busted, but fun as hell!

I've always LOVED to watch this guy's gameplay..... When's Marvel though -.-'

You should do a video of F Champ vs Kusoru Ageojoe

It is 2022 and I just learned that Up TAC increases damage for the combo

Don't think we didn't catch you cutting to ChrisG as you said "It was time for a new era." SOUL SOUL SOUL SOUL SOUL SOUL SOUL God I miss old Marvel 3.

I swear ppl who say MvCi had no idea the hype and atmosphere of umvc3. Ty for the video.

0:28 lmao this combo. Fuckin first hit of l rocks into lv3 that is insane💀

@PomadaGaming

10 ай бұрын

0:55 yes 1:13 yeh 1:31 oh yeah i heard of these things just recently,really weird lol 2:12 yeah insane 2:35 ig so 2:58 golly 3:20 yeah 3:34 it’s not easy 3:48 oh boy sentinel mid 4:24 doom? I hear he has one of the best ones 5:23 alright 5:41 it does? 6:04 golly 6:22 gotcha 6:31 uh huh 6:45 yeah interesting That was infact cool

This game is fire. Never gets old watching them Og player swaggin in the game

Mvc3 was easily the most hype fighting game to ever watch WHENZ MAHVEL!!!!!!