It was nice to see the entire iSonic RCM setup actually going, I've not had a chance to see that. I do like their design compared to many others. Just some lowly suggestions, and you can take these as you wish : ) I use the exact same tank, although I don't have the cool black facing which I do like! I've done really extensive reading and research on this subject, and I was fortunate to be able to ask some of the guys who have REALLY done a ton of research and written extensive papers on it and learned a lot. First, if really helps to control your chemistry, and it's not hard to do. One fellow wrote an exhaustive paper about it calle Precision Aqueous Cleaning for Vinyl Records. I have a link on my video where I show how I set up my DIY system with the same excellent iSonic tank. 2nd, although I really do like their design for cleaning records, their spindle turns way too fast at about 2 rpms. With my unit, the spindle came with a 12v power supply which also turned the records too fast, so I purchased a 3v AC adapter and now the spindle turns at a much more effective .6 rpm which allows the cavitation enough time during rotation in order to be much more effective. 3rd, and very important, 10 records is far too many for the width of that tank in order to clean the record surfaces properly. There is a lot of research where it was suggested to have at least 1" between records, and preferably about 1 1/2. (The way I have my spindle set up it holds 6 records with about 1 1/2" between) which again allows the cavitation to be more fully effective in reaching all of the vinyl surface and to clean it effectively. So, FWIW, if you wish to check out my system which uses the exact same excellent tank, I have a video here on KZread (I don't wanna use your post to show my link, I don't wanna be TOO tacky : ) But it is basically entitled DIY Ultrasonic Record Cleaning Machine (the same tank that Kirmuss uses) In it I very simply and I hope clearly lay out the parameters of how I do it. Also, FWIW, if you do use some chemistry in the tank, you do need an effective rinse. I show on my Pt. 2 video how I added a simply dishpan where I set the spindle right after the records have been US cleaned, and spin them a few revolutions in distilled water. After that, there is NO need to 'let them dry overnight' Not at all... After the spin rinse, I merely set them on edge on a towel, give them about 15 minutes to air dry, and then just to get the last tiny bit of water that may have accumulated, I set a fan blowing on it for another 5 minutes. After this simple 20 minute drying process, the records are ALWAYS completely dry and ready to put away in nice 3 ply poly inner sleeves. I hope you don't mind my leaving these thoughts here, but honestly again FWIW I have spent many, many hours reading and researching and asking about these things, and I tell you truthfully that after going through about 2000 of my 2400 or so albums with this process, almost all of them have come out really clean and quiet, with the exception of maybe about 25-30 where I have had to set them aside for a more thorough and aggressive cleaning with my also DIY vacuum/rinse RCM. The results have truly been stunning and most satisfactory. So, please do feel free to check out my short 3 part videos, and I honestly feel that it might give you just a few more ideas that you may wish to add to your system that really could make it much more effective and efficient. Cheers! Jaime.

@ejcheck

2 жыл бұрын

I'll take a look at your video. Like anything else, there is a learning curve. I was not thrilled running 10 at a time either, and I now tend to run batches of 5. That said, running 10 at a time allowed me to get through my collection relatively quickly. Your idea on the power supply for the motor to slow it down is interesting. Are you noticing any overheating of the motor? I compensated for this by increasing the time. I started using Turgikleen in the solution. I thought the iSonic solution was too sudsy. I have made some changes to my solution filter for reuse. I will admit to using tap water, but I have not had any issue with residue and I tend to wipe down the records when done. The wipe down has surprised me as I have found some older records actually had mold come off on the wipes. Further, I have started using Groove Clean w/ Discwasher (type brush) on the record before a play.

@ejcheck

2 жыл бұрын

I watched your video and you did a nice job building a well-thought-out cleaner. But, what you went through is exactly what I wanted to avoid. The iSonic tank appears to be larger than yours, which gives me the option to do 5 or 10 LPs The Record separators have gaskets that do a wonderful job of keeping the labels dry. And I didn't want to deal with sourcing parts etc. I was able to get the iSonic for a great sale price on Amazon and the grief wasn't worth the difference in price. $693-$292(Amazon points) = $400 out of pocket

@latheofheaven

2 жыл бұрын

@@ejcheck Hey there! Thank you kindly for the nice reply. I'm glad that you have given thought to things that will help and enhance your cleaning, good for you! : ) Yes, that is a KILLER deal! Truthfully, although I would also incorporate the things I've learned, I honestly probably would have totally jumped all over that for that price. Absolutely great deal. The tank has the same capacity, 10L. The only thing that looked different was your cool black cover. Just keep in mind, that 'wiping' records after they've been cleaned *ALWAYS* leaves residue behind, no matter what anyone says. Now, like I had mentioned for the 25-30 or so out of the 2000 I had US cleaned and were still somewhat noisy, I DID indeed have to use further, more aggressive scrub/vacuum/rinse methods using my DIY vacuum/rinse RCM. BUT... the very last step should either be a complete distilled, touchless rinse and air dry, or after the last distilled rinse a good vacuum. THEN you know that there is absolutely no further residue at all on the vinyl when you are done (with the exception of whatever persistent noise/damage that may be in the actual vinyl) It is a very simple and quick step which honestly should be done. Now, what Kirmuss does (ad infinitum) is use a brush and cleaner and go over the record to get off that 'mold', etc., you were talking about, and then give it another go in the US tank. So, if you don't currently have a vacuum/rinse RCM, then just be sure that after whatever further scrubbing/cleaning you do, that the vinyl either run through the US tank again or at least properly and thoroughly rinsed with distilled water, and then let air dry. Like I had mentioned with how I do it, 20 minutes (with a fan for the last 5 minutes) leaves them completely pristine and spotless! I have a link on my Part 2 video I think where I found a really nice, very soft, dense makeup brush which is bloody PERFECT for scrubbing the records with a more aggressive solution (which I also list and show which ones I make/use) Now, when I say 'scrubbing', I do mean with some reasonable restraint : ) But, good circular motions (like the Kirmuss method) does a great job of working the solution into the grooves and leaving it ready for a good distilled rinse. Oh, and no, no overheating of the motor at all. It just runs at a slower speed. Best wishes to you then!

@latheofheaven

2 жыл бұрын

*Hey*, I think I paid more for just my tank, you lucky B@stard! :D

Thanks for your video. Definitely help me set up mine. Ran into same confusion with the 10 record shaft. Good video!

@ejcheck

3 жыл бұрын

Glad it helped. Now i know it wasn't just me

@WizardCow

3 жыл бұрын

@@ejcheck have you cleaned picture disc? Wonder if they would be ok in the machine.

@ejcheck

3 жыл бұрын

@@WizardCow You should research it before you try. I have no idea. Good luck

Thank you for the video.

@ejcheck

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks, a year later, it's still going strong and the records keep sounding better. It has rescued many old albums for me.

Thanks for posting, Elliot. Looking into buying one myself. I've read that some people rinse the records with distilled water after the cleaning to get a film left behind off. I've also read people say that they prefer to dry by wiping witha microfiber cloth. Any thoughts?

@ejcheck

3 жыл бұрын

First, I'm about 2/3 through cleaning my collection and I've learned much. 1- I thought about using distilled water but it would have been very expensive since the tank hold a large quantity of water. 2- I've reduced the amount of cleaner/surfactant to 1/4cap, a full cap was very foamy. 3-I CAN'T BEIEVE THE AMOUNT OF CRAP IN THE BOTTOM OF THE TANK AFTER CLEANING what I thought were clean records! I'm not talking an inch of sludge rather just hard to believe the little islands of crap I find after a batch. 4- I'm running 4 loads per tank. I think the water is clean enough for that and that is more than enough in a day. 5- Since this is the first run-through (I figure future cleanings will be less aggressive), this is the format I'm following: - Run the records for a few cycles to get them wet. - Degas for an initial debridment - 2nd Degasd - 15 minute run followed by a second 15 minute run - Raise the records to allow to drain then wipe/dry with lintless wipe (not microfibre). So far no spotting from the water Good luck, I'm sold on this device

@ejcheck

3 жыл бұрын

Just discovered an issue. I put a record on the TT and white fibers accumulated on the stylus. Needless to say, I was not happy. A bit of research and it seems the microfiber towels can do this. I just ran a batch and allowed it to air dry and no fibers. Still no spotting with tap water My next project may be to see if I can make a simple filter to run the water through between batches.

@ericdutt3582

2 жыл бұрын

All cloths called "microfibre" are not alike. Some are what you would use on your car or for cleaning your house, and some are what you use for reading/sun glasses and camera lenses etc. The second typ is for using on records. They are lint free, unlike the first type. Hope this helps.

I just bought one. I have some really dirty records. I plan on rinsing them off sink using a record specific cleaner and spray bottle. Then rinsing them with a spray bottle full of distilled water. Then using a spin clean with just filled water. Then ultrasonic. Do I need to rinse the records after the ultrasonic cleaning? I have seen some videos where they do. But then you have to use distilled water. Is this over kill? Any suggestions? I have a lot of records to clean. About 1,000.

@ejcheck

Жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for watching the video. I think you will change some of your ideas when you realize how long it will take you to clean 1000 LPs. I had about 500 when I got the iSonic and the machine was running constantly for a couple of weeks. The iSonic at least does 10 at a time, but you will have to do 1 at a time with your other devices/methods. That will really slow you down. The method I use for my collection is: 1- I do not use distilled water 2- I use either the iSonic cleaner or Turgikleen 3- 1st time I DEGAS 2x 4- 1st time I clean for 15minutes 2x 5- When done I wipe down with the Kimwipes (I had an issue with microfibre leaving particles in the grooves). I still use a dishwasher brush and liquid to clean the LP for playing

Did you put old albums in there? Just asking. I need to clean about 300 or so albums that are from the 70-80s

@ejcheck

2 жыл бұрын

I have about 650 albums new and going back to the 50s- 60's. I ran everything through and was stunned how much crap I'd find at the bottom of the tank

How do they sound?

@ejcheck

Жыл бұрын

This made a huge difference in the sound. I am still amazed at how much crap comes off the records. I have absolutely no regrets on this expense

@mrhoffame

Жыл бұрын

This thing is AMAZING!!! I am a beyond anal collector. My buddies, and people who follow my channel, know that condition is an absolute must for me. Of my 4000+ records, less than 400 of them would be classified as being very strong VG+. The vast majority are EX to NM across the board. I only say that to say not only do I only bring in stunning copies, but I also had put each one through a spin clean then to a rice paper sleeve. This Isonic cleaner STILL took my entire collection to the next level in a dramatic way. It truly is amazing what is hiding in the grooves of even brand new albums that brushes or spin cleaners just can't get out. One of the best investment any collector can make IMO!.

How many transducers?

@ejcheck

2 жыл бұрын

It has 2 transducers