I did this awhile back bc my trucks were loose enough to where my whole truck fell off 😳. Really helps. It’s also hilarious when people ask to ride your board & throw down, only to find how loose your trucks really are.

This is a pretty common longboard bushing setup. Venom sells double cones as "super carve". I haven't regular skateboarded for a really long time, but you could do a ton of custom stuff w/ bushings. Riptide sells street bushing packs. You could do double cone, softer in the front truck, or do harder board side w/ softer road side cones. Endless combos.

as someone that skates with very very loose trucks as Ishod I think I will definitely try this ! Thanks dude

I tried this today at work and it helped a lot the balance is so good , my manuals are on lock

I have the same setup as Ishod, I like it.

thank you for what you do and everything you have done. I love your channel and videos.

much love and respect to you and your channel. I hope that all is well for you and your family and friends.

love the vids brodie 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾

Nice content and discovery! I bought some months ago new indies bushings. Can't remember how/why, they were like the ones in the vid, top bushings only. I admit I did not pay attention, but just liked it. It's been 3 months I have them and I really like this way, much better to me than classic bushings when it comes to feeling confortable on your board moreover when you like having a nice turning on the streets...Thanks for the vid!!

He lowered the truck but kept the turning ability with the 2 cone bushings . I have 149 thunders and I put ace low bushing in as well as the krux inverted kingpin conversion.. been doing this for 5 years. The ace trucks are bottom barrel and the top is cone

Always a dope breakdown. 👊

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

Appreciate that

I loved this concept. More truck set up from pros

LOVE the skate edit bro

Adding beats behind the skating i like it. Reminds me of NKA vids

I found a good in between with the bushings. Install the bushings how they come, except only use the top washer

Great vid, always down to try new setups

I just thought about the concept of your videos. First of all, I enjoy them very much. I had this idea that you may not only change the setup of your skateboard for a video (in this case) but also change the style. For example if some skater does huge drops on a specific board setup, it would be nice to see if it helps YOU when hitting a (smaller) drop. Just an idea. Nice vid and make every day a Friday 🤙 Ps: sorry if my english is a little bit skuffed😅

Love your content man, I was watching a few of your old videos, and then skipped to this one. Your progress is phenomenal!! Love the videos man keep the good vibes rolling

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

I appreciate that!

Used to do this all the time back in the day. The in between is only take the bottom washer off, you don’t need it because the bottom bushing has enough surface area to sit on.

@AdaptZehm

2 жыл бұрын

I just made the same comment, Ishods double top bushing is a bit much for me. Ditching the bottom washer and running factory bushings is like semi squirmy and I love it

I started doing this with a ML medium to and bones hardcore top, super lose and jiggly but I love it...

Dude, you’ve improved SO MUCH since the last time I watched one of your videos like a year ago. Good luck on the dieting. I can tell you from experience, when you’re a big boy skater like I was, losing a lot of weight is like a cheat code for skating. Obviously you get better pop, but I found that my style got WAY smoother. And I rolled away a lot more on landings that weren’t perfect. I think maybe your body gets used to being top-heavy, so when you lose weight your body still tries to compensate for that extra missing weight. It’s like your sense of balance is overpowered. That was my experience anyways.

Wow you're getting really good man,great to see your progression! Btw how about a tyshawn jones or nick tucker video(probably something about switch flips or popping higher)?

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion!

@matanaltjeacovson4117

2 жыл бұрын

@@localjoe thanks bro,good luck!

Yeah bro so sick video

Dude you are no longer average..

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

I mean in my head I want to be like a ishod so I’m pretty far off from that but average is subjective

i LOVE your videos

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

🙏🏼❤️

That beat is nuts

You got my like and sub just from the music thank you haha

Great tips… ☺️

Tried this today with two top bones bushings(no washer). I haven’t had this much fun in a while and Manuel’s were a bit easier

I'm wicked jealous of ur local park... where Is this

I am gonna try this sometime 🤙

What is it with pros and super loose tricks? Is it sort of like learning ping pong with spatula so when you use a real paddle it will feel like the size of texas? In the context of skateboarding I guess that would be your sense of balance?

Ishod skates Thunders which are not a flowy truck so the bushing hack is just changing the geometry to make the trucks more flowy. If you want a more flowy and turny setup then try a new pair of trucks like Aces then you dont have to go tinkering with the geometry of a truck, would be good to go at stock. Lol yea its fun to experiment and tinker to get set ups more personalized but yaa know just sayin.

@esoooanguleroo881

2 жыл бұрын

Aces are the best trucks for flow

Hella good sesh!!

I hope that everyone reading this comment has a great and memorable day today.

Just use the normal bushings and try to remove the bottom cup of the bushing i think that's what nyjah do just try it that's what i do for almost 2 years

eventually your board will be like a total melting of like 100 pro's life hacks. i think the two top bushings also makes the trucks lower and have a shorter wheel base. also if you're dieting buy lots of healthy groceries that take a bit of effort to eat. when i eat really bad it's because i have 5 bags of 3d doritos in my bedroom where i can just graze instead of eating real food.

how long have you been skating?

_Bushings? U do skate like him, I think u even look like Ishod. Practically his twin. I actually thought u were Ishod at the beginning._ 👍🏻👍🏻

The big issue with this is with that bottom bushing being shorter it changes the geometry of the truck. The truck is going to sit titled inwards towards the center of your board and will put more pressure on the pivot cup. Definitely not the best thing for the trucks even if it feels good.

@randoslapps4627

2 жыл бұрын

Is it that big a deal if Ishod throws down harder with it then a 12 year olds controller playing COD?

@Exploitedyouth2004

2 жыл бұрын

@Where's the curvature or cleavage? It's not just the pivot cup itself receiving extra pressure. It's the bottom of the hanger as well as the back of the baseplate and likely the kingpin as well. If it makes the trucks feel great for you or ishod or whoever, cool go ahead and do it. Just know it may lead to some earlier parts failures.

@Cnb132

Жыл бұрын

Dawg hearing all that makes me wonder what you ride cause I know Jack shit abt what’s a good set up. I just threw some indies on my shit and never looked back still feels comfortable but I’m interested in finding a better set up

@Exploitedyouth2004

Жыл бұрын

@@Cnb132 honestly man ignorance is bliss. Just ride what you feel comfortable on. I made the mistake of learning all the weird physics and nuances of board size, truck differences, wheel size and shape. All it did was make me obsessively try new stuff. I'm still a shitty skateboarder haha.

@ze2004

Жыл бұрын

@@Exploitedyouth2004 i have a friend like that and holds a huge quiver of surf boards..

Also check out Ishod Wair's trucks. He skates smaller trucks than his board. Example: Board size 8.25 with Thunder 147 Trucks. You can see it in his latest video part. Lots of pros like Andrew Reynolds & Leo Romero do the same. Big board riding smaller trucks. I also seen risers on his trucks...

@victorarregnelle8976

2 жыл бұрын

I hate the idea of riding magic carpet.

@fritzgeraldlee2181

2 жыл бұрын

@@victorarregnelle8976 magic carpet ride

Can’t forget the triple washers in the wheels

You should do the whole ishod setup: 8.38 twin tail with 147 thunders and 52mm wheels with 3 washers on the inside of each axle

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

I plan too I just don't want to start over with new trucks haha

@tuukkap2887

Жыл бұрын

Can i use independent red soft bushings is it the same as on this video

And in the next video you have to skate a whole ishod board :D he skates thunder 147 on a 8.3 or something:D and did you ever skated a twin tail board? Love your videos Much love from germany 🙏❤️

@sk8fm448

2 жыл бұрын

It feels good👍

Noticed that steez right away

never give up on your dreams.

You're skateboarding look so good now. Start learning tricks on switch

He’s on deluxe so he won’t do this but bones bushings would have the same effect. Especially the blue ones.

Yo if you bend your knees more when you skate you'll be 10x better no lie. Higher pop, better balance, board stays under you more easy. Seriously dude, try it out

@johnwhyte4971

2 жыл бұрын

Lol

@jasonoson_

2 жыл бұрын

fucking facts dude!! 110% agree with ya

@souhailbachlouch4961

2 жыл бұрын

Very true dude if you straighten and your back and shoulders when u do tricks it helps a lot

@mrsemifixit

2 жыл бұрын

You mean bending knees more before a trick or during?

@amdg01007

2 жыл бұрын

@@mrsemifixit all three points only rise when you're riding away clean

He got hella low risers too because the double top bushings makes the trucks lower and thunder 147s are 50mm tall stock

@jouhajohnny

2 жыл бұрын

49mm if they are lights or hollow lights

I did this dude and omg I'm as good as Isod Wair now!!![

Bro its not about the bushings do you think ishod cant skate a normal bushing truck?

found this cuz i use 2 bottom bushings but i saw some 90s japanese trucks by GUS and they had some really weird hourglass looking bushings on the bottom it looked like 2 top bushings facing against eachother so it was skinny in the middle so i want to try putting 2 top bushings on the bottom of my trucks to try and replicate it but i'm scared that they will break or something cuz im really heavy i'll update this comment after experimenting

I tried this and it’s awesome but I keep getting wheelbite

Do I need to try this to understand? My trucks are loose enough with the normal bushings for my front to only turn the board when I'm pushing? Someone please elaborate

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

it's a little looser than what you normally could achieve with a standard truck setup

This just reminds me of Bones bushings that look like 2 top bushings. I may give this hack a go. Doubt I'll skate anything like Ishod or even Joe.

I’m in class 😂😂

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

Real one

Can I ask how long you’ve been skating for? Also how much you weigh ? Please

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

like 20 years with a 12 years of gaps throughout it and I weigh 190 right now but trying to weight 165

you should try his truck size to deck size difference. 147s and 8.3!

@joejoe9o244

2 жыл бұрын

wtf

@feeeelz

2 жыл бұрын

Weird

@skatelife2013

2 жыл бұрын

3 washers in the inside makes it a 149, haha

@DesiredQS

2 жыл бұрын

with riser pads too

it’s been a day how have the bushings been? did u switch off of them or keep it like that?

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

I’ve kept them for 4 sessions so far trying to decide

@christy.2z492

2 жыл бұрын

@@localjoe NICEEEEE THX FOR THE REPLY BTW, love ur vids man👍👍

@trw45q

2 жыл бұрын

@@localjoe follow up plz ;) subbing rn

I don't know , ishod has a certain look on a board that is not copyable by most skaters. hes tall and slender first of all so he looks and skates completely different. what works for him i don't see working for most average skaters.

Imagine Daewon's truck setup!

@randoslapps4627

2 жыл бұрын

Just 3 washers, some wax, and some hole punched griptape circle cutouts

@nickmatthews7882

2 жыл бұрын

He does only one bushing on each truck thats why his are so ridiculous

@draineme

2 жыл бұрын

exactly

So you put a too bushing in the bottom and the top

Gotta skate and 8.38 and 147’s

every time I buy new trucks I use the bushings from my old trucks if they're not to cracked

I just wanna be able to heelflip consistently

@randoslapps4627

2 жыл бұрын

Keep trying! Concentrate on keeping your shoulders square :)

the setup is just called conical bushings instead of cylindrical bushings.

This is random but I fuck with beard it’s pretty sick 🤙🏽

that bs flip was 🤌🏼

This is just the opposite of Andy Anderson bushing setup. 2 bottom bushings so it isn't as loose

bro joe im sure ur a nice kid but respectfully, you are not seshing even a 1/4 of ishod in two weeks LMAOOOOOOO my homie russ knows ishod personally and skated with ishod on the same skate shop and told me ishod skated till 2 am damn near everyday, the man is FIEND for skating hahahaha but I like how you using him to inspire you to get better I think thats really cool

@AndyGrushinskiy

2 жыл бұрын

and he seshed till 2 am for years. Skating is life for him LITERALLY

Just buy Bones bushings and it will do the same thing. I cant skate anything else

seems like you'd break kingpins more often, no?

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

maybe... I think more the pivot cup would get worn down

@lazyk1751

2 жыл бұрын

Realistically how often are non pros breaking kingpins tho?

@shellbournian

2 жыл бұрын

@@lazyk1751 depends what you skate... I go through kingpins about as often as I go through decks. and they're not only annoying to replace, but it's not "fun" to replace like a deck is, ya know?

I hope that all is well for everyone reading this comment.

You need to be a bit more advanced to notice the difference a lot more, he mentioned control with one foot in tight places and better for landing tricks just more control in general

Can't stand loose trucks. I have to have mine tight as hell

No way in hell! I like a mid-tight setup being a heavier skater (185-190) I am not sacrificing my pop and stability even if it means slightly better pinch. Not to mention making thunders even lower and the wheel bite you'll get,haha.

@victorarregnelle8976

2 жыл бұрын

I'm 225lbs and can't ride conical bushings if my life depended on it. I also ride 8.5 though. I noticed the narrower the board the tighter the trucks feel. The less distance between the center of the board where the trucks turn, the less leverage, my guess. I can never get over how people ride their trucks so loose you can see the truck wabbling when they pick up their board.

It’s a placebo effect. You got used to it because if you do any kind of adjustment you will get used to it after a session. No diss but I don’t think you are good enough to really notice the actual benefits.

@localjoe

Жыл бұрын

Make a video about the benefits since you’re good enough.

now try riding trucks as loose as Daewoo Song and get back to me.

first jajaja

@localjoe

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks man appreciate you getting here so fast!

I hate loose trucks lol

Thats not a hack, as hole, just personal preference

You look like the guy from breakinh bad who helped saul do his bussiness, not huel but the other one