my god, standard is just 1v1 EDH

@piper964

2 жыл бұрын

dont compliment standard like that /j

@bobwilson679

2 ай бұрын

Lmaooo suprised to see you here RhysticStudies

I've been jamming Vorinclex as my commander in Brawl and winning about 70% of my games not because the deck is good, but because opponents punt almost every single time. So many times an opponent spams "Good Game" and drops Ugin with 3 counters, then quits.

@hobocrab

3 жыл бұрын

Guess it was GG, but not in the way they expected 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@KiuhKobold

3 жыл бұрын

PFFFFT! I'mma be honest, that's nothing short of what the Ugin spammers deserve XD reminds me of how I beat a 5 color super value deck with 5 color Party in brawl. Hehehe, suck that Ugin!

@NoctaliSH

3 жыл бұрын

Call an ambulance.... BUT NOT FOR ME

Just wait till Jin Gitaxias shows up in Strixhaven as a crazy professor.

@lucidlullaby894

3 жыл бұрын

I wonder if Norn will show up in this sprinkling of Praetors, or if she’s gonna have a plot line to herself

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

I'm expecting we get some more Praetors throughout the year :)

@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514

3 жыл бұрын

It'll probably be UG, as simic cards are always trash! 🤣🤣🤣🤣

@neminem233

3 жыл бұрын

God this seems like such a great idea I hope they actually do that

@YourCrazyOverlord

3 жыл бұрын

I so called this happening

39:51 "Another one for the good guys..." looks at Valki, Vorinclex, and Liliana in hand "I guess."

Didn’t even think about the fact that Vorinclex just turns off your opponents sagas

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I didn't really either until I started playing with it. It's a big reason why I think Vorinclex is so good in Standard. Shutting down the opponent's counters (and Sagas) is actually a pretty strong form of protection in the current meta.

@poofypeanut0221

3 жыл бұрын

@@MTGGoldfish right on man, that’s means this also serves just as good against Atraxa in edh as in does IN Atraxa

39:47 Seth: Akroan War would kill us Vorinclex: Don't worry buddy, i got this

24:00 You just skipped a land drop for some reason

@Rzezio0

3 жыл бұрын

Was just searching for that comment. Sure it wasn't only me to see that.

@Kettwiesel25

3 жыл бұрын

It actually even punished him next turn not to be able to play the tapland for Ugin

So, I've been playing a list similar to this after seeing your version crop up on mtgazone. The list as-is is pretty great, but I made some alterations based on your Twitter recommendation, personal preference, and better BO1 consistency. My changes: I cut all 4 Lukkas. I know your Twitter recommended 2, but I didn't see the point when t4/5 Vorinclex is often good enough I added the following cards: Third Heartless Act [I like the instant speed] One Extinction Event [all our creatures are even] One Massacre Wurm [flex spot, I like the card but 4th Heartless Act is probably better] One more basic, bumping it to 25 lands to make it less likely to miss the 6th land drop for a foretold Ugin [happened twice when testing the original list]. This deck is super basic hungry and I ran out of basics more often than I'd like in the base version. My final land situation was: 1x Mountain [cutting Lukka meant you only need 1 red source at a time for Tibalt, and you can still play Valki if you don't have it] 4x Darkbore Pathway 4x Fabled Passage 1x Ketria Triome [so you can fetch red off of Binding] 1x Zagoth Triome [I felt I'd rather have an extra basic than more B/G duals for Binding] 1x Castle Locthwain 6x Forest 7x Swamp I cut all the red duals since the deck only needs 1 for Tibalt and it has 16 ways to find one past the two actual lands [Cultivate, Binding, Solemn, Fabled Passage]. I changed the Snow Lands to regular basics because I'm playing BO1 and not playing Blood on the Snow, so they're a liability on the off chance an opponent is playing Redaine. Edit: Additionally, I tried to make this deck work with Gyruda, since Lukka and Cultivate are the only odds, but losing Cultivate is a huge problem for the deck. Do not recommend. Edit 2: Beyond Ugin and Vorinclex[obvious], the cards that have most impressed me are Dream Devourer, Binding the Old Gods, and Valki/Tibalt. Dream Devourer is _way_ better ramp than I gave it credit for, and I was high enough on the card I crafted 4 day 1; it's been overperforming, especially vs aggressive decks. Binding the Old Gods is just a nice clean 2-for-1, but it feels so good to have an answer to everything that also helps ramp to Ugin. I've yet to drop a game where Tibalt hits the battlefield, and Valki on 2 to snipe Anax from Mono-Red is an absolute beating for their curve.

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Sounds like good updates. I'm current at two Lukka and added in Extinction Events to replace the two I cut. Also very much agree about Dream Devourer, it's really good and a lot more playable than I thought it would be.

@mroceanmtg8826

3 жыл бұрын

I too made a few tweaks that i think are really nice. I replaced the Lukkas with 2 Goldpsan dragon added 2 extinction event and instead of Lilliana i am running GB nissa. Foretelling goldspan is insane. Nissa and goldspan helps with even more ramp so now we have more ways to cast vorinclex and tibalt ahead of schedule.

@niceasmd9890

3 жыл бұрын

@@mroceanmtg8826 for these kinds of change (aka cutting Lukka), how do you reliably find Vorinclex?

@mroceanmtg8826

3 жыл бұрын

@@niceasmd9890 that is true I don't find vorinclex as much but nissa and goldspan help assist any hand. More options to cast tibalt and ugin faster.

@duesexistat5016

3 жыл бұрын

My first reaction was to remove all the luccas. What about an elspeth’s nightmare or two or a couple great henges for added bustedness ( vorinclex would double counters on creatures)

Can't wait to play this deck. I'm only 17 mythic and 18 rare wildcards away...

"Only thing better than winning in Magic is taking away your opponents will to even play Magic." This is why I love Seth

Binding the old gods is one of my favorite cards in the set

@maciek19882

3 жыл бұрын

Yes, Casualties of War light

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Card is insane (unless your opponent has Vorinclex ;)

@lucasenraraujo

3 жыл бұрын

Reminds me of Mwonvuli Acid Moss (except it destroys NONlands haha)

@natestrasburg

3 жыл бұрын

Card is busted

@oORoOFLOo

3 жыл бұрын

ngl, i think the deck would be a lot weaker without it. Almost wanna say it carried the deck. Non conditional removal and ramp on a card for 4 mana, when he plays deck that needs to hit 6 mana asap. How do you play against that?... Busted-oppressive.

"Tibalt is super good" as an honest statement is something I've needed to hear since og Innistrad block.

@kilpta4746

3 жыл бұрын

I unironically played it in modern mono red prison for a while it was passable. The old 2 mana walker.

I love this whole thing. The Vorinclex, the Tibalt, even the dream devourer.

Double Much Abrew! Thanks for getting this together, so quickly, Seth. What a sweet deck!

If I took a shot every time Seth said hideaway this episode I’d be dead. 💀 it’s foretell now lol.

*Thank you* !! Thank you for bringing back the initial deck tech, really appreciate it 😊😊

This is probably my favorite deck I've ever played.

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Glad you're liking it!

@cabrita1384

3 жыл бұрын

New to mtg?

@Yojimbothewookie

3 жыл бұрын

@@cabrita1384 No, I've been playing magic since 2005. This deck is just really fun to play.

Seth: "Only Preator in standard" Changelings: 😠

Well, and historic as well... Nissa's lands are 6/6 haste-vigilance creatures... :((((

@antischtick3502

3 жыл бұрын

Lmfao

@silverdeathgamer2907

3 жыл бұрын

Does it double the size of Krasis also?

@lagentemormora

3 жыл бұрын

@@silverdeathgamer2907 probably

@drumaboy70

3 жыл бұрын

@@silverdeathgamer2907 yes it does, it doubles all counters on permanents and players.

I love that you've gone back to deck techs in videos, they're usually my favorite parts

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I think the plan is to keep but, but also keep them shorter.

8:00 no reason to not cast lukka and ult to end on the spot

I'm pretty sure standard jund is more powerful than modern jund at this point Lol

@cabrita1384

3 жыл бұрын

Not even close, cascade + tibalt

@briankuczynski6884

3 жыл бұрын

Modern is still worlds better just on the mana base of shocks and fetches. The creature lands in modern are also the best

Running Blood in the Snow and Frostbite makes me feel like the golgari snow dual might be better than the two Triomes

OOH NEW VIDEO FORMAT SICK WAS SO HYPED TO SEE YA DROP KALDHEIM CONTENT LETS GOOOOO!!

This was great to watch! Love that archetype

This was great. Very excited about the new format!

Everytime Tibalt gets a new card, he gets stronger. He's too dangerous to be left alive!

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Next time Tibalt returns its going to be Oko-level broken.

You can just tell how much effort and love was put into that thumbnail art.

@Niuttuc

3 жыл бұрын

That thumbnail art is art from Vorinclex's showcase, because the video was to be uploaded and edited quickly to show off the deck, the usual thumbnail artist wasn't asked to work on a rush during a weekend.

@lucasenraraujo

3 жыл бұрын

@@Niuttuc aaah I see. :X And here I was thinking that the thumbnail artist flexed on us drawing something out of his usual style, oops. Nevertheless, it's a great art

Vorinclex is so good because so many things utilize counter mechanics, and by itself doubles the power of your own while hating your opponent's. I don't know yet if it's completely game breaking since the meta might be able to adapt to less counter reliant mechanics and since it's got zero protection, permission and removal could be enough to prevent it from completely taking over like Uro and Omnath did. Buuuttt, we don't really know yet though, there's so much ramp that Vorinclex decks could be too much. Either way, freaking great matches!

Two Much Abrews in one weekend? Heckin' sign me up!

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, the schedule is going to be a bit wonkey this week. I wanted to get this one up ASAP since the set just released :)

Tibalt got the best glow up in all of history, change my mind.

I mean Vorinclex has a wall of text, but that 6/6 trample haste pretty much wins on its own from my experince. 😅 the other effects are a really nice bonus though.

I've been running Abzan control with Vorinclex + Kaya + Garruk + Ugin and it is absolutely brutal. Eerie Ultimatum lets you put Vorinclex into play alongside all your planeswalkers, which doubles there starting loyalty and lets you ultimate all of them the turn you play the ultimatum. Once Kaya is ulted, you get a free copy of any of your planeswalkers or Vorinclex, every turn (e.g. you can -7 your free Ugin every turn to clear the board).

Nissa of shadowed boughs seems like it would be awesome here

Seth! Always love the content. Do you think there's any chance of you bringing back the the match-up titles and record counters? I feel like I've noticed them being missing for the past few videos, and I always really appreciated them! But, you do whatever it best for the channel, my man. Keep up the good work :-)

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, right now they aren't on Arena videos but are on MTGO videos. The problem we ran into is that we had to shrink down the overlay so much that it wasn't very readable (or keep it big and cover stuff on the screen). Hopefully we can make some more changes to get them back into Arena video as well.

Against the Odds: only Eldraine Cards in Standard ... Historic ... Pioneer ... Modern ? Running the Gauntlet

@Small_Panda

3 жыл бұрын

That's not even against the odds, not playing eldraine is the against the odds.

@joshwhitmire5753

3 жыл бұрын

Legacy?

@joshwhitmire5753

3 жыл бұрын

I mean legacy at least you get oko.

@Small_Panda

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshwhitmire5753 I mean I think your mana would be your biggest issue. As for the most part a lot of eldraine shows up in legacy looking at you 1 green cryptic command

@Small_Panda

3 жыл бұрын

@@joshwhitmire5753 though I think you would basically get crushed as legacy has just as busted as cards like force bolt path swords

These are some spicy meatballs, going to steal your idea, hope it doesn't become meta. ❤️

It would be nice to see this kind of a deck/mechanics in modern :)

Tbh I was surprised by Seth's full screen at the start. I almost dropped my phone

No meme at the beginning, so much better!

JUND IS BACK! Never thought I'd say that...

Seth, you're forgetting to make Valki become a copy of the exiled card

Super excited to see this one. Saffron Olive plays guitar? Will he serenade us?

9:00 listening to this at 1.5x speed makes you sound like a mad scientist 😂

Seriously: anything w Jund bc its so much silly sacrifice power... throw V in there? Ugh for sure- cant wait to try this!

Can i download that sideboard overlay somewhere. It looks great and very handy!

Vorinclex: make planeswalkers great again!

This deck is very fun to play, I dont have all the cards and had to change a bit and still so broken

what is the thing showing his deck on the left?

Ideas for future jank: Haunting Voyage Clerics (For Vito + Righteous Valkyrie combo kill). In search of Greatness + Sagas/Omens (there's also that red spell that requires you to sacrifice a creature or enchantment to deal 5)

I kind of hate standard, but if I ever play it again, I know what I'm going to play now. Thanks Seth.

I understand that its a meme to make fun of Seth for saying Names and words weird, but Seth come on how did Jegantha become Jin-gatha? 56:24

@tmakalpha1

3 жыл бұрын

Jin-gathatias

@neminem233

3 жыл бұрын

@@tmakalpha1 *wheeeeeze Jin Gathasis*

@firstandlast.1254

3 жыл бұрын

Trolling for engagement is a tried and true tactic. Personally, I wouldn't have it any other way.

@tortle1055

3 жыл бұрын

Well we have Vorinclex in standard, I guess now we have Jin-Gantha for our 2 praetor XD

Don't think for a second I dont see that Scoops plush in the background Seth! Where's mine to buy!

The synergies in the deck are awesome

Binding of the Old Gods was an all star the entire time. wow

I also made a deck like this one (or tried), and seeing yours makes me realize how bad I am at brewing

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

I've just been doing it for a long, long time. Keep at it!

@Frostgiantbutsmall

3 жыл бұрын

I feel the same way whenever he uploads lol

So i've been testing similair things but with the new kaya ultimate into ugin, also feels good^^

Lukka has an ultimate too Seth, you kept missing that!

Oh yeah sagas... I could picture him being a top end for a midrange deck with walkers and sagas

Rip my mythic wild cards

Is Dream Devourer actually gas for deck archetypes like Ad Nauseam?

Any reason you didn't drop your land after solemn in match 3?

The starship troopers line xD

Love the new intro style

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks! I'm trying to keep it shorter since a lot of people just skip through the beginning anyway, but still fit in the most important information. Glad you like it!

What would you exchange for the 4 lucca's? I have barely any of them and don't think they're necessary for the deck. More ramp? More early game removal?

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

More removal. Currently I'm down to two Lukka and have two Extinction Event in their place.

I really like this deck. What changes would you make for BO1?

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm, that's a good question. I haven't played any B01 since Kaldheim dropped, I'm not sure why you couldn't just run it as-is though.

I've run the numbers: The second mode of Heartless Act has only been chosen 4 times, including yours in Match 5

Vorinclex is like 3 Narset in a way - it has a passive that is so easily and frequently overlooked by people, even those who are well aware of it.

3:13 first land drop

Where can I get the video art? I want it as a background

@jjthesecond2801

3 жыл бұрын

It’s the showcase art for Vorinclex

Shapeshifters/Changelings are praetors, so you're good :)

That's a sick deck.

I think that pulling Lukka for a Klothys and 3 Kroxa mainboard would be my first alteration. The idea is solid, but this isn't Lukka's list. Also, I'm not sure about Blood on the Ice or Frost Bite here. I really love Scooze next to Vorinclex too... Man, this is a playable standard Jund and I'm stoked about that. And I know this isn't my list, I'm just thinking via text.

Game 2 against gruul adventures. You could've played vorenclex and the 2 drop foretell creature. Possibly stabilized

Hope your happy, in exchange for those land drops the powerful forces of magic decided to not print any more good white cards for 2 years.

gosh now i want to see emergent ultimatum with two planeswalkers and vorinclex since they either give you an emblem or two planeswalkers

@shmittywarbermanjensen1756

3 жыл бұрын

in historic you can do WAR lilliana and omniscience with vorniclex

@tonysmith9905

3 жыл бұрын

Fun fact: Emergent Ultimatum allows you to cast the other side of the dual cards from Kaldheim so you can search for Valki with it and get Tibalt. In fact I'm brewing up a list already for the deck!

You have a small typo in the title, Vorinclex Jund is spelled as Vorinxlex Jund. Keep up the good work, best regards

That opening to the video actually made me laugh out loud. Makes me want to craft some new cards.

Shouldn't Vorinclex also keep Brushfire Elemental away from becoming counters?

if the goal was to get a insta ult why not Garruk or the royal scions?

shirtless jayce in historic? :D endless jayces in arena, how much jayces you need to crush the client?

@nacricissa

3 жыл бұрын

Well, 250 Jaces, because of the recently implemented token limit, but I’m sure that’s enough

Seth you should try abzan with Kaya instead of lukka. If she ultimates you can keep looping pieces of the combo also your mana is better with triomes. You can get away with running a savai triome and/or a world tree and maybe a mountain for tibalt.

@tonysmith9905

3 жыл бұрын

Or play sultai with Emergent Ultimatum and cast Tibalt, Vori, and what ever else.

why no garruk cursed huntsman?

This deck is sick af

Seth what would you add to replace Lukka?

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

So far I've cut two Lukka for two Extinction Event.

great deck, loved it. Just dont understand the use of lukka, i think he underperformed.

Isn't it possible to replace Lukka with Vivien? This way the mana is easier to achieve and you can T5 Vivien get a blocker, T6 tick Vivien down, play Vorinclex, get Tibalt? Not sure about if it's working this way, but should be. Tibalt cant ult right away, but gets +4 with the Vorinclex on the battlefield.

@tonysmith9905

3 жыл бұрын

Unfortunately it doesn't work with Vivien. Just tested it on arena myself since I was already testing ways to cheat him in. I think it's because Vivien only allows you to put a creature onto the battlefield, where as other ways to put him in such as G-Wave or Emergent allow you to put any thing into play.

I had a game where opponent got turn 2 valki to take my kroxa, turn 3 copy it and start swinging in

Vorinclex is actually lowkey good into the meta. While he doesn’t counter the actual Adventure cards, he stops Sagas from working, makes it so Ugin cant reset the board, and makes it so Great Henge doesnt pump the team. Some notes after watching the video. Lukka clearly needs to go. He never got cast and felt bad to draw. It’d be best to likely replace it with either removal (Eliminate) or maybe Klothys just due to it providing both ramp and nice life gain to let you survive. Also I think Blood in the Snow should be Extinction Event. Its just a cheaper board wipe and you need board wipes asap when you need them.

@goncaloferreira6429

3 жыл бұрын

a positive view on things. nice.

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've slowly been cutting Lukkas (I'm down to two now, with two copies of Extinction Event in the main). Not sure if I'll cut it completely, but I'm heading in that direction I guess.

I play an Abzan version of this that is nutty

Wait a minute, you mean to tell me that WotC made yet another busted G mythic?! NO FUCKIN WAY!!!!!

@RandomPerson-mv8bn

3 жыл бұрын

idk, i think what actually made the deck seem busted is the dream devourer. A 6 Mana creature in standard is a lot when you have 5/5s for 3, but because Dream Devourer let's you foretell those big cards, you can double cast both the Vorinclex and a planeswalker. but I'm no pro magic player so let me know if that sounds like bs.

@snakeman830

3 жыл бұрын

Vorinclex is strong, but I wouldn't say broken. Dies to any removal that can hit a 6 drop except sagas.

@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514

3 жыл бұрын

@@snakeman830 literally same ring applies to Uro, and Uro is nowhere near as swingy.

@snakeman830

3 жыл бұрын

@@a_fuckin_spacemarine7514 Uro is a 4 drop self-contained value machine that recurs itself. Vorinclex solo is just a beater that can't die to sagas. Yes, you could argue that Vorinclex has stronger synergies, but you have to synergize to get the most out of him. Uro you can just jam into any UG deck and he's fantastic.

I can see standard being only this deck and Tibalt counter spell deck. Especially if Tibalt counter spell is your next video.

Match 2 Game 1, Tibalt can hit artifacts, so I think exiling shadowspear and putting it on Vorinclex was probably better than hitting the creatures.

After riding this deck to diamond I cut Lucca. I almost never want to see it and it does so little.

Im gonna need a lot of mythic wild card for this deck

24:10 weird to not play the land and be 1 land to Ugin!

I tried to ECD a Vorinclex on day one of Kaldheim and thought it was a bug that it didn’t work. Holy shit, I JUST realized why...

Is new green FIRE card good in magic? Did anyone need to ask this question at all?

Cursed Huntsman would be an insane addition for the deck

@MTGGoldfish

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I've tough about putting in one copy. The only drawback is we don't usually have that many creatures so the ultimate of giving everything +3/+3 and trample is only okay in this deck.

@genbu2870

3 жыл бұрын

Okay, that's a good argument But it would be a nice combo with the Liliana emblem

Damb the first game made me realise just how much Big V is good standard