I did chemistry at university and I wouldn't recommend doing it. There are very few jobs and most of my friends ended up in low paid jobs or were unemployed after graduating. It is better to do a course like pharmacy where there are jobs. There are a lot of degrees that are worthless.

@bigbobabc123

6 жыл бұрын

tomlinid what university did you go to?

@throwaway9226

3 жыл бұрын

What about teaching chemistry?

@mrs.potatohead8471

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you so much for warning people!

I know people who have left uni due to debt to find a job to pay the debt. Says it all

@aiyanaela6480

Жыл бұрын

It would have been best if they just stayed to finish it before leaving to get a job, regardless of the debt.

No it’s not worth it, unless you want to be a doctor, Lawyer or Engineer the rest of the courses should be 1 year vocational courses

@yannie0101

2 жыл бұрын

Or Nurse.

No. BUT pretty much any entry-level white collar job these days will demand that you have a degree. Therefore - yes. This is the only reason I went to the uni in the end, having endured 5 years of bullying at a some bog-standard conformist comp and then 2 years in an ok-ish college, despite the fact that I love learning and reading and researching. University education itself is a colossal rip-off. You generally get about 8 hours of lectures a week, plus maybe five of seminars, the quality of both being completely at the mercy of the quality of the lecturer and the other students. The rest of the time you're supposed to be 'reading', which if it's education for it's own sake you're after you could do after work and on the weekends. As for the grand 'uni experience' everybody raves about - basically this consists of waking up at 11am, ignoring the obnoxious housemates you share some dilapidated shack with, attending an hour's lecture, then in the evening drinking half your body weight in alcohol whilst dancing to a top 40 remix spun out in some grotty club in a provincial English town on a Wednesday night, trying to score with anything that moves. When I look back at uni the things I most value are the practical ones - moving away from home, living in a different city, being independent, getting my head around 'adult things' like rent, bills and cooking etc. As for the actual education provided - meh tbh. I had maybe 2-3 lecturers I really felt I gained something from. Socially - I have some fun memories, but now 10 years after I'm still in touch with only one uni friend (and that sporadically). After graduation - a string of crappy temp jobs, but I eventually managed to get a few fairly respectable, fairly well-paid jobs, which required a degree despite the fact that they are in fact fairly routine and could easily be done by your average 6th form graduate. However that's the system, and if you're from an average background and with no private source of wealth, you have to work with the system as it is, flaws and all.

@Filip_eF

4 жыл бұрын

that's the thing! they are demanding the degree, without it my CV it is just rejected at the beginning of recruitment

@mindy-Jo

3 жыл бұрын

This is the most accurate depiction of the real life impact university has on an average person.

University is worth it for STEM. Everything else, not so much

@betsyrocks

6 жыл бұрын

I’m so glad my daughter got her degree in Philosophy. I’m much poorer but at least I can get free coffees when I pop into see her at Starbucks

@remlatzargonix1329

6 жыл бұрын

Kaptin Badrukk ....bullshit!.. ...I have several stem degrees and I have never worked in any of the fields! Indeed, after a masters degree, when I could not find employment, I went to a trade school, learned a non-academic trade, and then, after graduation, I was able to gain employment!....I had 1st class and Distinction level in my STEM degrees, but they got me nowhere!

@remlatzargonix1329

6 жыл бұрын

Betsy Rocks ...philosophy, like its cousin, mathematics, teaches the ability to think and make good arguments. Hence, a degree in philosophy means one can step into many fields and easily build an understanding of them! However, like pure mathematics, very few people will get an job, based on their degree....perhaps there is a bias against them? I have found that while the experts might like to hire an intelligent graduate, the HR person or department often screen out those types of candidates.

@jeremysmith8035

6 жыл бұрын

i went to bristol uni did a drgree in electronics engineering and got a high level security clearance and now work in spain for a major defense company at 70 quid an hour and retire at 60 while pensioners obsessed with the eu who left school at 14 after going through the 3R's education suited for a life of working in factories will see their kids picking fruit at 40p/hour with no rights

@jeremysmith8035

6 жыл бұрын

and the pensioners expect me to cry about it for another bizzare reason

I remember been 17 doing a levels and working out all the costs involved of going to uni and decided to leave college almost immediately. Went on to do an apprenticeship and now doing better than most I know who went to uni🥶

@myyt7590

Жыл бұрын

I wanna do the same what apprenticeship do you think is good and where shall I look for them

I knew people get there degree but working as a cleaner madness 😢🤯🤯🤯

@ismailakbar6449

3 жыл бұрын

Hi mate hope to ask for some quick advice if you dont mind. Would you recommend going to uni to do a business management degree, I dropped out first time alot of people tell me you need a degree and need to go back . Do you think it's worth if you end up in 60k in debt at the end of it.

Hope they teach him to iron his shirt.

@iamcleaver6854

4 жыл бұрын

I never iron mine.

The world of work has changed. In the past you could leave school and work in a factory. Today, the growth sectors are the service sectors. UK school leavers at 18 simply do not have the skills or maturity for these roles. So need something, which is University mainly at the moment to allow this process to occur. Then, most the actual skills you will need in your professional life are taught in the private sector anyways.

3:30 - He makes a couple of points that remind me of my time in 6th form. In hindsight, the reason that I believe high schools promote HE and degrees is it looks good on them when they can put in their yearbook and on their website that such a percentage of students went to Oxbridge and any Redbrick universities. Just as when they state their percentages of of students that pass their GCSEs and A-Levels. In addition, A-Levels carry more UCAS points are generally speaking the qualifications and level of education expected to be accepted to university in the first place.

@wiicow

4 жыл бұрын

Totally agree - I was the year they got rid of connexxions who gave advice on university and apprenticeships As well as increase fees I’m now considering launching an advice website for the students as it looks like it hasn’t improved since 2012

8:00 the man saying only 5% of people wish they didnt go to uni - complete and utter bs. I mean 5 and 50 (according to barclays survey) are as the reporter stated incomparable and i feel like he is just the lobbyist for education. a huge percentage of people are dissatisfied with unis, and imagine buying something that has 60-70% of satisfaction rate and costs £60k! Doubt you'd give £60k for a three star service😬

Unless it's STEM, economics, Oxbridge or a few other universities then the cost is v.hard to justify now. Too many joke courses, joke universities and, quite frankly, joke students. The whole point of university is that it's supposed to be for intelligent people, but now it's basically for anybody with a pulse.

@JR-iu8yl

6 жыл бұрын

old china hand 👏👏👏👏👏👏

@bigbobabc123

6 жыл бұрын

Seriously no point in going if you don’t have at least BBB at a level. Otherwise, you end up at awful universities with low employment prospects.

@Braavis

6 жыл бұрын

Some people I knew at school that weren’t particularly bright did uni and got rubbish degrees. If anything all they’ve done is wasted 3 or 4 years when they could have been getting job experience, they don’t seem to regret it because they have the ‘prestige’ of having gone to uni and feel sorry for the likes of me!

@jimsy5530

5 жыл бұрын

+ old china hand That was always the case - it was only because the Blair Government sold the lie that all should be able to go to university. All that did was make people who should have been doing apprenticeships go to terrible ex-polytechnics, and do joke courses. Bloody awful policy.

@yipengguo3100

4 жыл бұрын

old china hand math at imperial requires A*A*A&MAT, £28k per year, but I can tell it not worth it.

If you study Medicine, Mathematics and Engineering it shouldn't be a waste of time. For everything else it is. When a job calls for any degree then there is actually no point to that degree - the recruiter has used the degree to filter out others. (Other sciences such as biology and chemistry are a major waste of time.) As for transferable skills you learn those on most jobs where you interact with people eg sales being a major source of transferable skills. Most Universities should be scaled back, most MPs shot, employers encouraged to train on the job and people should generally start work earlier.

@ismailakbar6449

3 жыл бұрын

Hi mate hope to ask for some quick advice if you dont mind. Would you recommend going to uni to do a business management degree, I dropped out first time alot of people tell me you need a degree and need to go back . Do you think it's worth if you end up in 60k in debt at the end of it.

@kynchan3332

3 жыл бұрын

@@ismailakbar6449 Who says you need it? You might need one of these strange degrees for your first job, provided you are lucky enough to get through to one of these fast track schemes. Beyond that almost no one asks where you went to Uni or what you studied. I wouldn't do the Business Management degree unless my employer paid for it. There are plenty of ways round it to far better opportunities to get the experience you need without incurring debt if you are working. Find contacts that are above yourself, take the more successful colleagues out for a drink/meal and ask them how to improve, put into practice what they teach etc. If you are looking for work find someone else in the company you want to work in, who do you need to speak to, ask for alternatives if turned down, ask for someone they can recommend to you that is hiring, ask if you can use the person's name who recommended you call etc. Promise to return the favour if the recommending party is ever in your position. Keep building your contacts that can help you. Contacts will open the doors you can't. One day you will do the same for them if required. It is better to be able to make 60k+, have a growing bunch of very useful contacts and get the experience to serve your customers well, add to that customer list, pass deals to your contacts/and receive opportunities from them etc. That is infinitely more important than some none specific degree that has no market serving purpose.

They need to reduce the fees of going to university as the reality for most students landing a job in their degree or getting a job with high salary is a lie. The statistics of earning more then a person without a degree in a specific degree is not true either as many employers look for experience more and in this day and age job oppourtunities are low. The show is clearly being biased, I do not know if thats to trick you? Its your choice to be in debt or not.

@ismailakbar6449

3 жыл бұрын

Hi mate hope to ask for some quick advice if you dont mind. Would you recommend going to uni to do a business management degree, I dropped out first time alot of people tell me you need a degree and need to go back . Do you think it's worth if you end up in 60k in debt at the end of it.

@solrah8411

3 жыл бұрын

@@ismailakbar6449 Depends on your situation, I went to uni to study computer science and realising more than 3/4 of the criteria I could of learnt myself without getting into debt and the rest by getting actual work experience in the industry. I wouldn't say its worth it if you are going for experience regardless of how great it is.

@princeji4473

2 жыл бұрын

@@solrah8411 hlo mate im also thinking to go to uni about computer programming but i know the knowledge i get in uni is already available on youtube but the thing is its hard to get knowledge alone like sitting in room alone whereas in uni alot of other students are there

@solrah8411

2 жыл бұрын

@@princeji4473 In all honesty look for an apprenticeship or internship. You will grow further quicker in your career path. Just my opinion, but its all down to you. Wish you all the best.

80 % of universities just want the tuition fees....what a waste of time. Studying a degree was never beneficial to me.

@ismailakbar6449

3 жыл бұрын

Hi mate hope to ask for some quick advice if you dont mind. Would you recommend going to uni to do a business management degree, I dropped out first time alot of people tell me you need a degree and need to go back . Do you think it's worth if you end up in 60k in debt at the end of it.

@guitar999able

3 жыл бұрын

@@ismailakbar6449 The NSS, whatuni.com, youtube, google are your main research areas. Also, research the occupation such as staff turnover, benefits, pay, bonuses, hours, performance pay, long term career? Don't know much about business management. Go and talk to the third year students at universities or companies themselves.

@user-ih6vs3eg3o

3 жыл бұрын

What did you study if I may ask?

@guitar999able

3 жыл бұрын

@@user-ih6vs3eg3o Public Services

I graduated from St Andrews - a top 5 UK university. The degree did fuck all for me. 15 years later, I have forgotton all the shit I read. It's like a distant dream that never happened. Employers don't give a fuck what you read - no experience, no job. Simple as that.

University isn't the problem. The amount of debt people get into, the lack of financial support for students, and the lack of opportunities for people on graduation are bigger issues. Apprenticeships are good, but it would be a shame to see universities suffer and the value they bring lost because people don't see the opportunity.

@JR-iu8yl

6 жыл бұрын

Mr Banana depends on the university your referring to

@mylesmw

5 жыл бұрын

University is a big factor of the problem. Students post A-level have been pursuing degrees at record highs in the lat 5 years. The issue of this, is that it degrades the value of a degree. Degrees used to differentiate between the best students and the average, but nowadays universities are accepting students with BCC at A-level who go on to get a degree of the same honours as any top student. Everyone is getting degrees, many of which are pointless anyway. Equally, most students, upon acquiring a degree, enter a highly competitive saturated job market. They all have the same degree, which in turn decreases in value, and most consequently settle for a much lower paid job than they expected post-graduation.

@ismailakbar6449

3 жыл бұрын

​@@mylesmw Hi mate hope to ask for some quick advice if you don't mind. Would you recommend going to uni to do a business management degree, I dropped out first time alot of people tell me you need a degree and need to go back . Do you think it's worth if you end up in 60k in debt at the end of it.

@mylesmw

3 жыл бұрын

@@ismailakbar6449 In all honesty mate, I could not tell you. It depends on so many things. Are you aiming to be self employed and start your own business? Does the sector “expect” a degree from you? Similarly, is relevant experience without a degree just as valuable to employers - or would they prefer someone with a degree but no experience? - you’ll really need to ask employers in the desired sector. Breaking down the above question further, some employers like to see that you’re committed to your desired job from the beginning. In which case, would they respect you jumping into the sector early as an apprentice or not, and working your way up the ladder? Can you sell yourself? - being a generally desirable person is hugely important in networking. Will the degree enable you to push even further up the “ladder”, to earn more money and take on even more serious jobs? Go around asking employers for a bit of work experience. It can go on your CV, you can ask all the questions you wish, and if you’re selling yourself well - you may even be offered some sort of job in the future. Degrees still aren’t negative. STEM degrees are crucial, and the earning potential completely eliminates the worry about debt. But generic degrees simply aren’t as valuable as they once were. That said, they’re still bloody hard work, and if employers still expect you to have them regardless, what other options do you really have?🤷🏻‍♂️

If you want to work overseas, Japan for example, you need a degree (unless your company sends you there). That would be my main reason for getting one, I’ve done pretty well in my career without one.

My Personal Experience only so obviously will not be representative of all graduates, but I had little idea of truly how many doors my degree would open for me. Doors of opportunity that I hadn’t previously considered or that never mattered to me before they became an option such as living and working professionally in another country in some amazing industries. It’s not a golden ticket to riches and success but keep a long term view. Also don’t fall for University marketing that prey on ambitions youngsters and will sell you a pointless degree.

@RyreKS

3 жыл бұрын

What degree did you do?

Apprenticeships or University won't make a difference to a lot of people in the years ahead due to Automation and Artificial Intelligence..... sixty thousands pounds of debt at University for 3 years of study then coming out and finding the course you have done has no real relevance to the required skills you will need ahead....Online Courses are the way to go and are available to anyone who wants to study and not just a selected few people.

@dinsel9691

4 жыл бұрын

So online courses are immune to future automation and artificial intelligence then? Unlike University degrees, right?

@ismailakbar6449

3 жыл бұрын

Hi mate hope to ask for some quick advice if you dont mind. Would you recommend going to uni to do a business management degree, I dropped out first time alot of people tell me you need a degree and need to go back . Do you think it's worth if you end up in 60k in debt at the end of it.

@JohnHoworth1971

3 жыл бұрын

@@ismailakbar6449 i don't know mate i can't advise you on that , but i would be looking into all the advances going on with Technology and Artificial Intelligence starting to be used in every industry out there first before forking out money for a Degree that may then end up becoming meaningless and outdated in a few years time.

Unless you are studying STEM, nursing, medicine, dentistry, economics or law or aim to become an academic in the field of your choice at a good university then you're wasting your time. Too many people going to poor universities. The reality is is that you will live relatively poorly and at times be lonely but if you are studying something you love with good career prospects then you're doing the right thing.

@mylesmw

5 жыл бұрын

Actually, even law is now seen to be a waste of time. I can’t remember the exact figures, but there’s been a significant increase in self-representation at court. With information so widely available, most people have enough knowledge to go to court and win without the need for a lawyer. Equally it is believed, rather surprisingly, that the field could become automated. Simply by typing in a few key words relevant to your court issue, databases full of past court cases can be brought up. From there, it’s thought that computers will be able to deliver a system of necessary steps to take in regards to your circumstances, so that you’re able to represent yourself on larger cases in court. Not to mention that most law firms don’t even recommend law degrees as they usually cover the wrong/irrelevant content. Law apprenticeships are the way to go, but there’s no certainty for your future. Nonetheless, you could go into conveyancing, etc, but it’s not the typical “solicitor/barrister” type law people look for.

@ismailakbar6449

3 жыл бұрын

@@mylesmw Hi mate hope to ask for some quick advice if you dont mind. Would you recommend going to uni to do a business management degree, I dropped out first time alot of people tell me you need a degree and need to go back . Do you think it's worth if you end up in 60k in debt at the end of it.

@mylesmw

3 жыл бұрын

@@ismailakbar6449 there’s so many variables. I really couldn’t tell you, and the best advice I can give you - not to be rude - is figure it out yourself. You need to think critically, both about yourself and every single option on the table. Are you looking to be self employed? Then maybe the debt will hinder your ability to secure loans or make investments. Looking to work for someone else? Then you certainly need to ask around various employers and see what their preference is. Some places prefer solid experience in the desired sector over no experience but “qualified”, and vice versa. My suggestion would be get work experience ASAP. Even just for a week, at a bunch of different companies. That should be self explanatory. In my experience, although I’m 19, networking and relevant job experience has proven to be much more important than simply having a degree. I worked for 1 year full time at minimum wage in a relevant job, and now at 19 I’ve tripled that salary in my second job. I put that down to selling myself well, with desirable and employable personality traits. I’m by no means perfect, and I’ve still more than plenty to learn. However, if the job you desire tends to favour those with degrees, what other option do you really have? Lots of degrees lack value. But some really ARE important. They’re still bloody hard work. STEM subjects are excellent areas for a degree. But a degree that puts you into an already over-saturated job market, with a stagnant and ever-increasing pool of “qualified” post grads all competing for the same job.... you’ve really got to weigh things up. I don’t know anything business management degrees, but do YOU think that it falls in with the statement above? Shit man, if you’ve an idea for a product or service that isn’t on the market - just fucking go for it. You’re young. You’ve got time to be an entrepreneur and fail. And learn from the mistake. Or succeed. Alternatively, if you see things more black and white, and simply want to manage things - go back to the first points and ask around various employers. The work experience will help anyway.

@rahatahmed6188

3 жыл бұрын

@@mylesmw Yep, law is a waste of time as well

iron your shirt!!

@groslait7814

6 жыл бұрын

Shane Gavin I wish someone can help me with that.

University not worth it, the worse part of it is that the curriculum doesn't always apply to working in your field. They can cancel your work experience and get away with it. I learned more working a retail job and funding my own extra learning online through online academy's.

like everything, it depends, and context is king. my best friend got a degree in poli science and became an english teacher in korea. he loves his life. there's no money in, but he doesn't care. note also that no job that I can think of is available in canada for someone with a BA in poli sci. I guess you can deliver the mail. so maybe the right way to look at it is my friend HAD to move to korea to teach english. that's probably more likely. If I were to recommend higher ed to any young man today, I would say get a degree in business or engineering. these men are not forced to move to another country, and they can ultimately buy a house, get married and have children. undergraduate degrees in social science or liberal arts are deadly to a young man's future prospects. women don't want to marry guys wandering around their apartments in a housecoat, flip flops and a degree in Literature. Trust me, I speak from experience. I have a degree in English and it is my eternal shame. I had to change everything and learn a trade a few years after I graduated from uni. the great thing about the internet is you get the unvarnished truth from an anonymous commenter like me. Do not listen to these "experts" like the ones in this video. Racking up credentials that have no use in the real world is not good for your life, it is bad for it. Poetry is nice, but it won't pay the bills, and you will wind like me - a stoner with an English degree who had to completely re-evaluate his life and go into the trades to make a living. Higher Ed is not a scam if you study business or engineering. But if you do what I did and study art, poetry, and philosophy...you will deeply regret it. deeply. just trust me on this one. women will pass you over. here endeth the lesson, from a beta male with an Arts degree.

@ManchesterBlue1894

5 жыл бұрын

Would you recommend getting a degree in IT or digital technology?

@bensanderson7144

5 жыл бұрын

A degree never hurts, but if you want to start slowly you can always just take non-credentialed courses that are offered at various college's continuing education departments. Lots of IT jobs just want industry certifications, not necessarily the degree.

@goldeng4889

5 жыл бұрын

so would you recommend international management as a degree?

@giialiinh

3 жыл бұрын

tysm, i learnt something valuable

@coverupper1354

3 жыл бұрын

Reading this 2 years after you posted - thanks very much and hope you are in a better predicament

I majored history at Oxford (three years) and then went on to Harvard Law to get my law degree. I will say these years were the best years of my life, despite being constantly swamped with work

@JR-iu8yl

6 жыл бұрын

Harvey Bike nice , I'm about that head off to Manchester to study maths

Nobody ever mentions that Universities exist to further higher learning by people who have already achieved their place in academia. They do not exist for students at all. Students get in and then benefit from the brilliance of professors and lecturers and other members of the university who are already there. I never went to "Yuni" myself (I detest that abbreviation) but I respect these institutions for their cutting edge research and academic achievements. Good luck to the youngsters who get in.

I went through two IT apprenticeships and it was awful. The first apprenticeship I did made me redundant after two months. The second apprenticeship I did payed me the smallest amount they could and made me do everything a regular IT technician would do, they would get annoyed when I didn't know something and I later discovered that the manager was watching me constantly on CCTV. I know this probably sounds like a young person who doesn't want to work and is blaming the system but I swear it was the worst experience of my life. I also discovered that the qualification they gave me was completely worthless and literally worth 3 points on the UCAS system. A lot of people I've spoken too have also had very similar experiences. If you're going to take an apprenticeship beware that it is most likely a company desperately looking for cheap labor and that your manager will just be a regular person who has zero interest in teaching or dealing with an apprentice.

@ruijackson7697

3 жыл бұрын

Uve got to hang in there for at least a year then get out. At least then u have some skill as an IT technician and can work full time for a full wage

@wibble2482

3 жыл бұрын

@@ruijackson7697 No the qualification they were going to give me was literally worthless, it would have not helped me get a full-time in any IT position. The apprenticeship did not include any Microsoft qualifications, just a useless BTEC.

@ruijackson7697

3 жыл бұрын

@@wibble2482 I'm not talking about the qualification. I'm talking about the experience you would get working in the role of an IT technician. Sticking in that for a year would give you a chance of picking up jobs elsewhere. Notice in the previous comment i said "skill" not qualification.

@wibble2482

3 жыл бұрын

@@ruijackson7697 The experience was worthless because I wasn't being qualified for the job. I'm onto other things now. My original warning still stands, avoid the apprenticeship system.

@ruijackson7697

3 жыл бұрын

@@wibble2482 I'm not talking about being "qualified" I'm talking about having the competency to carry out the job. You can be an IT technician with no qualifications, as long as you have the skill to do the job

But back in the day, you really wouldn't need A Levels to work then it shifted to needing A Levels now more jobs require degrees (in this day and age) and who knows if it could be of even more value in the future? For example, to become a police officier a degree wasn't needed but more police departments are looking for graduates

Follow the money. The middle and upper classes advise their children to go to University because they know the long term advantages. That said, there were still a number of falsehoods propagated in this piece. The principle being that students 'don’t pay off their debt’. Students pay back far more than the amount they borrow, however when an interest rate of 6.1% is added to the debt from day 1 then it becomes quite difficult to catch up. Some nice free advertising for Barclays though!

@jimsy5530

5 жыл бұрын

Not just that, but also follow the money to the correct places. That's the problem, the working class are unable to distinguish between worthwhile and bullshit universities and courses. There's a lack of information in bad schools. Upper classes don't send their children to bad schools. That disparity of information leads to poor people wasting what little money they have, in order to chase a lie.

The problem is the kind of person who goes to university is selected for intelligence. Making it difficult to tell how much of their success is actually due to their degree rather than innate intelligence. In a world where everyone can access lectures by the smartest people in the entire world in a few minutes most professors are simply obsolete. If prestige and a piece of paper is the only thing universities are offering that cannot be found elsewhere the deserve to fall. People who have gone to university are also unlikely to say they regret it due to post purchase rationalisation, students invested three years and 27k+ in university it’s painful to say it was a waste. And even undermines the prestige of their degree.

Going to the right university is worth it,but for some universities its really a waste of time and money. My problem with universities is the amount of money that students have to pay and then end up in big debts,but the truth of the matter is that we don't really have to pay such amounts to learn all that we learn from college,why pay large sums of money when you are actually your own teacher ???

@ismailakbar6449

3 жыл бұрын

Hi mate hope to ask for some quick advice if you don't mind. Would you recommend going to uni to do a business management degree, I dropped out first time alot of people tell me you need a degree and need to go back . Do you think it's worth if you end up in 60k in debt at the end of it.

It really won't be "the best 3 years of your life". It can be living hell and a massive shock when moving away for the first time. I just started my degree last September in computer networking and I'm struggling mentally. I have highs and lows, but I keep asking myself if this is what I REALLY want to be doing for the next 4 years?

@MrBrettaxe

4 жыл бұрын

Dominic Bunn firstly id like to ask how are you getting on at uni now is it going well? Also just my opinion i found it slightly cringy in the video saying “ the best 3 years of your life” so everything after those 3 years is nothing but a tedious bore? You work hard so you can have a lifetime of enjoyment not just during your education years.

I left school at 16, got an apprenticeship in bricklaying and never looked back. Im now living on a healthy salary as aproperty developer and will never be out of work.I have 2 good freinds who went to uni,and have degrees.Both are in massive debt,both cannot find a decent job,both have no life skills and are like teenagers.And i earn more than both put together.If your going for a high payed job its not what you know its who you know. In my case though,it what i know

@kynchan3332

3 жыл бұрын

Have you taken it a notch further by putting assets into trusts to leave an amazing legacy rather like what mr fred thrump left to his heirs. He was a master carpenter turned property developed who then structured assets around trusts so paid little to no tax. While doing the above have you developed a curriculum for your own to follow in, that is far superior to what is taught at school and further education.

University ties you down for life, an apprenticeship opens up the world to you.

@matt4239

6 жыл бұрын

tigerspuds neither of those statements are correct.

@tigerspuds

6 жыл бұрын

Matt. I have a degree in chemistry and 35 years experience in industry. I am tied down to only working in that area. Every village, town and city in the world needs electricians, plumbers, mechanics etc. People who have served their apprenticeship and are qualified in a trade can go anywhere in the world and find employment. If I was going to go through it all again I would go down the apprenticeship route. Both my statements are correct.

@matt4239

6 жыл бұрын

tigerspuds I appreciate your insight but that’s a very general outlook as not all degree’s will tie you down like that. A decent business degree for example contains Economics, Marketing and Accounting all within it, amongst others, giving its holders many different avenues of progression either straight after graduating or further down the line in their careers.

@tigerspuds

6 жыл бұрын

Matt, The likes of economics, marketing and accountancy can be done over the internet and I reckon in the short future that will be the norm. But as you said "not all degree’s will tie you down" but all trades open up the world to you. I take it your background is Economics, Marketing and Accounting?

@MrFrankKelly

6 жыл бұрын

tigerspuds it may be possible to learn economist and accountancy on-line but the business skills and behaviours associated with marketing cannot be gained on-line.

The entry requirements for some apprenticeships are really high and competitive to get a place.

I have my University degree, no big deal of a qualification, Business in bla bla bla. In my own experience, a college degree is more a thing of status, than the actual monetary value said "qualification" would represent in your professional life. One of my lecturers said once, "with the degree you'll get from this course, you can automatically demand X amount of money more than any counterparts without a degree" This was an absolute lie, total BS, but we believed it at the time. In real terms University should be only for studies such as Medicine, Engineering, Law in which you need to have a certification to practice. Trade schools are far more productive and better value for money, you will be coming out with a useful skill with which you can start your own company as an electrician, plumber, hairdresser, joiner, landscaper, online marketing, photographer etc. For all those other jobs or careers out there, all you need is dedication, hard work, passion, positive attitude, ambition, maybe a good mentor and patience.

Apprenticeship schemes specifically within the accountancy profession are filled with graduates who were forced to do an apprenticeship scheme so that the firm can be reimbursed by the government for training they would have provided anyway. 1 day a week of training will be fillled in a useless bureaucratic way

@Kelvinaton

6 жыл бұрын

Lol if thats true then i have just wasted my time and money in uni as im studying an accounting degree

@saintprodigy9670

Жыл бұрын

@@Kelvinaton hey man, im starting uni this year. Can youpdate me on your post degree life please?

No it’s not, there’s so many lost people with masters etc. Are unemployed, it’s a joke. The way it’s looking, you are in a better position to get an average job but stay financially happy, than be in thousands of student debt.

If it is a good University,then it is worth,if not,it is gonna be waste of time and money...Self-studying is not bad too

@ismailakbar6449

3 жыл бұрын

Hi mate hope to ask for some quick advice if you dont mind. Would you recommend going to uni to do a business management degree, I dropped out first time alot of people tell me you need a degree and need to go back . Do you think it's worth if you end up in 60k in debt at the end of it.

Maybe if tuition fees were abolished students wouldnt go into 60k debt. Oh wait, they're free here in Scotland!

@throwaway9226

3 жыл бұрын

It also means that the numbers of students is limited so that joke students studying joke degrees isn't a massive problem (I'd hope)

This is utter crap, the market is so segmented, I am a developer, but because during the last 10 years I worked on a specific language and technology, other areas are now closed to me unless I go bellow seniority level

Olly, going on the tv where the world is gonna see him and he picks out the most oversized rumpled shirt he can find.

What they don't tell you is that student debt affects your credit rating. This is money you have borrowed and haven't paid back. Hence it is extremely difficult to qualify for a home or car loan while you have this debt.

All I have to show from university is a 16K debt

Why disable the comments on some videos ?

If what you want to do is a profession that requires a degree, then there's no choice. Too damn bad that those professional associations aren't required to PAY the shot to have their future members TRAINED. There's little doubt that a university education, in any discipline, provides insights into the world that perhaps you'd not discover on your own. There's also a caveat: you must critically analyze what any professor tells you. Profs are as open to bias and prejudice as anyone else... and they need to be carefully monitored for those times when they're just proselytizing some philosophy or other. There's plenty of bullshit in universities too.

The debt is still there, and must be paid off to get your credit rating back to a good level. You cannot borrow for a home or car if you have a bad credit rating due to student loan debt. Yes, university graduates may earn more than a high school graduates, but still not earn enough to pay off your student debt.

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A non-British European student at Lancaster University has reportedly suffered discrimination this year due to his greater concerns about the virus. Reportedly, this discrimination was first exercised by other students and then exacerbated by the university staff who reviewed the case. Against xenophobia: monitor, report, share. Never permit it.

University is what you make it because if you don't do any extra work outside of uni hours you will not achieve a high grade nor gain essential experience. People get into this bubble that if you have a degree even a STEM degree then you will breeze through a job recruitment process. Not necessarily because the vast majority of those who you are up agaisnt will have a degree, GCSES and experience so what makes you unique? That's what I bring to the table in every interview I attend. I'm 20 years old and not yet have been knocked back for a job, currently studying a degree at at a good university in Networking, Security and Forensics. BE DIFFERENT, BE YOURSELF. That's my point regardless of your back ground it will always hold more value than an education.

What is this guy on about “it isn’t debt”? Not only does the interest increase when you don’t pay it back but who goes to uni to work a job for 30 years for 25k and under to avoid paying it back? As an 18 year old who would have gone to uni, it seems unless you are doing stem subjects you must question whether uni is worth it. My view is no.

@kynchan3332

2 жыл бұрын

Even in STEM you have to be very careful because most are not relevant enough for the work required. For instance Chemistry degrees cover a lot quantum mechanics - 3 years worth, the rules behind chemistry, but you would need extremely powerful computers to make predictions for reactions, which is very niche, more academic than industry related and you would not be able to just buy the computer to make those calculations and there is little demand for the modelling. When you compare it to a trade for instance it tends to be much more relevant to the problems being solved, cutting down on learning that can't be used. Although, there is nothing stopping the student taking it further. But the market demand is usually far too great for the student to daydream about the theory behind it all.

I would like to inform students and parents in uk that China could be a great option when it comes to tertiary education. China offers excellent courses (in English ) and scholarship for overseas who want to take either university or apprenticeship route in China. You may wonder why they want to do that, as far as I know they want others to know their country personally instead of relying on the biased view of mainstream media. Another reason is they want to attract the best talents. The great advantage of learning in China is you can get jobs upon graduation and the fee is super low if you aren’t qualified for scholarships. Anyway, it is just my suggestion. You can take it or leave it.

It is in Scotland

@gavinturner5565

6 жыл бұрын

Andy M Absolutely Andy!!!

And the part in which he mentioned it would be written off lol!... in 30years mate

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Living in a cloud9 dosnt need to have a degree that cause thousand and thousanda of pound in your head just to study in uni then when you finish your uni you end up stress lookin for a job that you dont even want to do lol 😂😂😂 debt lol hahahaha

When transferable skills are mentioned what are they? Lets say one of the skills is sales. A person who goes door to door, makes cold calls, follows up, closes, gets the second sale (up sell and cross sell), asks for recommendations and understands human impulses and how to bring them out has bags of transferable skills already. If they have done it longer than the graduate then they are almost sure to be better and if they had a mentor it could make an even bigger difference.

It is a debt....

@user-ih6vs3eg3o

3 жыл бұрын

Exactly you still owe the government money and it’s a deficit whether you called tax or debt

I think the Vice Chancellor's argument is pretty lame when the poor individual student has to pay for it.

There's an older man in Adelaide with six degrees who cannot find anything, not even voluntary work. Frankly I wouldn't wipe my arse with a university degree.

Not everyone is going to like this, but unfortunately it's the truth no matter how much you don't want to admit it -- a degree is only really worth it if you go to, A) Somewhere VERY prestigious for the course, B) A Russell Group institution, or C) Oxbridge. So many people make the mistake of going to shitty universities, getting shitty degrees just on the offchance that they will be part of the 1% that manage to still do well for themselves. Even people at top universities don't always do very well for themselves, but the chances are a lot higher. If you're likely not going to end up earning more than someone who doesn't have a degree then honestly why bother? The same can be said for apprenticeships. They are so misleading and quite frankly, for the most part, a load of rubbish; so don't get conned into a bad one. Unless you can find some fantastic STEM apprenticeship at Jaguar Landrover or the like, you are basically working slave labour earning fuck-all to be trained up for a low paid job. If you're in Year 12 or going into Year 13 and have any ambition in life, pull your socks up at school, put your social life on hold for a few months around exams and get yourself into a top university! (Or indeed a good apprenticeship, if you're looking at a career in science.) They don't want to tell you this at school, because "some people still do alright," but if you don't get yourself into a top uni, you're going to have to work a hell of a lot harder to get up to the same payscale as someone who did. I am deeply sorry if I 'offended' anyone during my remarks and do feel free to reply below telling me how well you did after getting a degree from 'XYZ former Polytechnic.' I'm honestly very happy for you, but my point is we shouldn't be actively encouraging young people to waste their time in these places on the offchance that they emulate your success. (You are a fortunate anomaly.)

@JR-iu8yl

6 жыл бұрын

FIFA PLAYER FACTS UPON FACTS , WELL SAID 👏👏👏👏👏👍👍👍

@goldeng4889

5 жыл бұрын

Uni of Nottingham or Uni of Birmingham?

@ismailakbar6449

3 жыл бұрын

Hi mate hope to ask for some quick advice if you don't mind. Would you recommend going to uni to do a business management degree, I dropped out first time alot of people tell me you need a degree and need to go back . Do you think it's worth if you end up in 60k in debt at the end of it.

@fifaplayer6833

3 жыл бұрын

@@ismailakbar6449 in the current climate with the massive recession, I honestly have no idea. Under normal circumstances I'd say yes, go back. The debt doesn't matter, you'll be paying the same amount whether it's 9k debt or 90k, that's the good thing about the UK system. Wouldn't go back till teaching is in person though, students are being massively fucked over atm.

@capo9k

Жыл бұрын

Real shit💯. going into yr13 now. strolled through yr12 not taking it too seriously but reading this definetly helped

Teaching is one occupation where you can get away with callous disregard.

uni is a business

I think the notion that if you do not do a STEM at a prestigious uni, you’re doomed to fail is unfounded. In my personal experience, I find that many employers are looking beyond purely academic success and focusing more on professional experience, personality compatibility, and performance on their own tests. My personal experience, going to a business school at an ex poly, is that university has been absolutely amazing. I have just finished an industrial placement with a global PLC and received great feedback. I am really optimistic about my future too. So don’t limit yourself to a Maths at Oxford, uni really is what you make of it.

survey's are overrated

@mateuszrdultowski5316

3 жыл бұрын

Word

It’s not worth the money but if you don’t go you won’t earn the money so it’s the better of 2 evils. If you don’t go you will drive a seat at your peak

because education that doesn't pay is meaningless. what a horrific way to frame an opportunity for learning and intellectual development

@kynchan3332

2 жыл бұрын

The rich can take everything slowly. Most people have to work and if University is sold as some panacea to good work many people will fall for it. Most people should not go to University but the higher education industry needs the funds.

Rather than spend thousands reading 'ologies' (Maureen Lipman and BT were wrong, sociology, psychology, etc. are not sciences), we might fund apprenticeships which include an element of third level learning and qualification to underpin the practical aspect of the learning, such as languages to enable travel for bricklayers or hairdressers in time of recession. STEM is useful, if using hard science, accounting, engineering, teaching, law's and medicines are all STEM subjects and all quite necessary otherwise one is training shelf stackers, for which one does not need a degree and associated debt. My children read Law's and Engineering, both left University and straight into post-grad. then employment, like myself, dance, beetles music and sociology with social anthropology and linguistics are not in any way useful 'qualifications' and, I feel, we might better train our young in more appropriate, practical skills and internationally regarded qualifications, not dammed politics.

@ruijackson7697

3 жыл бұрын

@@NB-tk8nv U need a medical degree to be a physician physchiatrist. Psychology is one of the worst degree you can do.

Pay for your own indoctrination.

Why would u cap urself to earning less just so u don’t pay the debt .. lol!

@capo9k

Жыл бұрын

U still have to pay the debt, trying to avoid it only lets the interest go up

Don’t go to a shit uni. If you aren’t going to a Russel group or top 20 uni, don’t bother.

@JR-iu8yl

6 жыл бұрын

bigbobabc123 Exactly

If you can afford it, yes. If you can't afford it, no. Affordability and Worth are not synonymous.

@bigbobabc123

6 жыл бұрын

Harrison Clark everyone can afford it with student finance. It’s not a debt, it’s a graduate tax.

Degree apprenticeship are great but people will miss out with uni life. Good old days.

@karag4487

5 жыл бұрын

Dumbass £30k+ debt and you thinking about uni life? You must've had a depressing life before uni

@jamiemcivor8462

4 жыл бұрын

Tbh i don’t get the fuss about uni life

@kynchan3332

2 жыл бұрын

@The Krabby Kronicle If someone spent 30K traveling around the world for 3 years and working where they went they would probably have far richer life experiences than going to University.

@kynchan3332

2 жыл бұрын

@The Krabby Kronicle A very expensive party for sure.

YES. It's about the probability. Do you think Google, Facebook, or Microsoft will hire high school graduate as programmer? Maybe, but the probability is very small compared to them hire university graduate. I take that it is very dangerous and stupid to discourage people taking university education.

@crown9413

6 жыл бұрын

mzamroni as someone who works in that field, those companies would prefer someone with experience, who have worked on a number of projects already. Programmers perhaps are better off working at or starting small companies and working up. It is only dangerous if you are right, if it is you that is wrong, your advice is dangerous.

@stephenrochester6309

6 жыл бұрын

J Nigel typical arrogant nobody who read a book by Steve Jobs once mindset

@remlatzargonix1329

6 жыл бұрын

mzamroni ....agreed, BUT the cost of that degree, and whether the cost/benefit is worth it, is what is up for discussion. In the information age, an educated population benefits the country. Lower the cost of university, and then this achieves the benefit; it encourages higher education and the country benefits from higher taxes.

@remlatzargonix1329

6 жыл бұрын

mzamroni ....I have found that IT is one industry where "what you can do" is as important or more important than " what you studied". So, if you can prove to them that you are a great programmer, they don't care about degrees. Getting you foot in the door is the hard part, but that is also true for degree-holders.

@mzamroni

6 жыл бұрын

Crown9 I also work in IT since graduation in 2003. In early years, the hands-on things, that are not written in university books, feels very important. But recently I realized that what made me easy doing the hands-on and did design things in later years is the theory I learnt from university books and classes. People can grab university level knowledge by reading the related books, but sometimes university environment and challenges (competition, tests, quizzes) are helpful to boost the learning

Keep it Britishs