3:09 That seems to be a running theme with great ape fossils. Then again, that’s what happens when you live in tropical forests, which are notoriously for how poorly they preserve fossils.

We carry ourselves, through our DNA and MRNA at least 15 now extinct hominids, including neanderthals, denisovans, homohabilis and homonaladi. And it's important to remember the great African rift Valley discoveries of hominids were largely based on fragments of teeth or part of a skull. Modern paleoarchaeology techniques will be partly reinvestigation of old fragments with newer, better preserved artifacts, and modern tech that will astound us

Are the fossils found in Eurasia closer to orangutans than gorillas? It seems likely that orangutan ancestors would have split off really early and lived in Eurasia before eventually making their way down to Indonesia.

0:51 It should be said that some of these numbers are out of date. Im pretty sure the lower limit for humans in Australia is up to like 60k years at this point, and its getting longer for humans in the Americas too

@suatchaglan7446

2 ай бұрын

The Americas is the true old world my brother

@farkasmactavish

2 ай бұрын

@@suatchaglan7446 No.

Fascinating thank you

EDGE Science? Not hardly! This was posted 2 days ago and you show a migration chart with the peopling of the Americas to be 12,000 years ago when it was demonstrated years ago that people were in the heart of North America 20,000+ years ago.

@nathanwolber4503

2 ай бұрын

Dates for Australia and Madagascar are also off. Overall point is correct though

@revolvermaster4939

2 ай бұрын

@@nathanwolber4503 overall it’s laziness and unprofessional

It took me way too long to realize what the thumbnail is!

I could be wrong, but didn't they recently discover a much older jaw bone and teeth from an human ancestor than the ones from Ethopia/Africa around the Eastern Mediterranean basin?

@BjornYggdrasyl

2 ай бұрын

You ar right

@characterblub2.0

2 ай бұрын

iirc they still need to run more studies and whatnot to properly confirm that, but that is what's being proposed

@midloran

2 ай бұрын

A ye 👍

@user-mb7sc1ob2w

2 ай бұрын

We are always one hole in the ground from rewriting history.

@wingedhussar1453

2 ай бұрын

There were so many humans and apes etc walking around tht it's impossible to say a link or split or where humans started .it's all bullshit apes we're everywhere around the world and they bred into humans somehow

I'm also confused on why you think that apes must have evolved in Africa, when the oldest divergent branches (gibbons and orangutans) live in SE Asia rather, which thus holds the present greatest basal diversity (by comparison Africa only has one branch). Sure: there are some fossils from the prolific Great Rift (a very peculiar orography that makes access to ancient layers much easier than anywhere else on Earth) but the fossils could mean anything: including diverse migration from Asia in the days Africa was much more covered in trees (and thus available for apes and monkeys to migrate in both directions: to and from Asia). Kenyapithecus could still be basal only to African great apes (hard to say from just a partial jaw), while proconsul could be anything: from a direct precursor of African great apes (us included) to a side branch that did not survive to leave any legacy.

@ryanmassey586

27 күн бұрын

Those are the downsides to archaeology and dna. They aren’t necessarily great at explaining the direction of migration. Sometimes they are but in many cases all they can tell us is yes there was a link and yes there were migrations around this time or that time but maybe less clear as to actually how.

@LuisAldamiz

26 күн бұрын

@@ryanmassey586 - This is all paleontology but you're right that fragmentary knowledge is definitely confusing about "direction": we get the dots, some dots, but we can hardly join them. If we'd actually have paleogenetics, then we could at least get a proper phylogeny.

That thumbnail coming from that famous painting from the opd testiment is pretty remarkable. Judith Slaying Holofernes

NICE

Lori's brother Simon is obviously the transitional species between gorillas and humans.

Now thats the kind of science i EDGE to

You don't need more baby steps, you need more baby reps.

Considering the date of c. 9.5 Ma ago, I'd go for Nakalipithecus not being a common ancestor of African apes but rather of gorilla. In my understanding the Pan-Homo split cannot be more recent than 8 Ma ago (and is maybe much older, 10 or 12 Ma make good sense, some have given max. ranges of even 17 Ma). This is largely because Sahelanthropus tchadiensis (Toumaï) is absolutely clearly already in our line and not anymore in that leading to chimps and bonobos (unmistakably bipedal but also with some human-like brain features in spite of the brain being small) and is from c. 7 Ma ago (thus the Pan-Homo split must be older). On the other hand there's some genetic evidence (a full chromosome's introgression) for the Pan branch (but not our branch) having hybridized with gorillas or rather proto-gorillas like could be this Nakalipithecus, so maybe it is partly ancestral to chimps and bonobos as well.

Gap is still huge. Still waiting on those links, starting to lose faith that they’re coming given we should be finding more recent stuff.

Cool

Also need to consider viral agents.

Return to Monkee

7:36 But bipedalism send to be the ancient vondition if great apes. All apes have descended from ancestirs similar to the gibbon species that they have moved and lived on trees, but between trees they used a bipedal walking. Knuckle walking has evolved in gorilla and pan independently later. They can be considered more evolved that way if you would like. Or fo you disagree with the papers in question? If so, why?

Monke

That would be my cousin

Out of Africa is eventually just about our more "recent" ancestors. If we go back long enough, we'll always end up with LUCA...or do we? ;)

@farkasmactavish

2 ай бұрын

Yes.

@ManahManah77

2 ай бұрын

Yes. I’ve heard it said that we are basically a vehicle for trillions and trillions of cells, all working together towards the same common purpose as L.U.C.A.; to survive and reproduce. I like that.

@farkasmactavish

2 ай бұрын

@@jonbinki9651 Do you not understand what LUCA is? It's the Last Universal Common Ancestor, which is the earliest living organism from which all extant organisms in all kingdoms--plant, animal, fungi, protist, and monera--are descended.

Yes the link btwn Gorillas n YTs👍🏾💯

@EDGEscience

2 ай бұрын

The first humans were brown.

@TeOriwaWaiariki-qr3ch

2 ай бұрын

@@EDGEscienceAbsolutely and shave a Gorilla it's as YT as it's YT Neanderthal cousins

@EDGEscience

Ай бұрын

Gorillas have black skin dude

@TeOriwaWaiariki-qr3ch

Ай бұрын

@@EDGEscience they have black fur and YTskin

Ummmm pananthrotropus?

No such link!

Mmmmmmm Monke

I can almost see them fighting for sneakers

@suatchaglan7446

2 ай бұрын

Wow maybe you should search up human zoos and scientific racism and think about what you just said brother

@reuireuiop0

2 ай бұрын

​​​@@suatchaglan7446 Wot racist about fighting over sneakers ? Any influencer hipster would, unrelated to that person's complexion, gender, religion or cultural conviction. File under _Über Woke about a joke_

@suatchaglan7446

2 ай бұрын

@@reuireuiop0 :/

@Map4ch3

2 ай бұрын

@@suatchaglan7446 what's more racists saying something about the behaviour of low intellect humans. Or? Immediately assume said humans are JUST ONE specific group. Everyone can be a dumb person just like you have proven right now

@markschuler1511

Ай бұрын

​@suatchaglan7446 No man, he made a reference that went over your head, and you automatically branded it as racist just because you didn't understand it. GTFOH 😅

First

@Schizz76

2 ай бұрын

Congratulations, what a great achievement. Marry my daughter.

@reuireuiop0

2 ай бұрын

​​​​​@@Schizz76 Dude refers to him being first hooman on earth ;) _you still interested in marrying off your offspring_ ?

Recent hominid speciation: Magapithecus trumpei.

@farkasmactavish

2 ай бұрын

Touch grass, this is a natural history channel.

@charlesmartin1121

2 ай бұрын

@@farkasmactavish Eat grass...politics are part of the natural history of humanity.

@farkasmactavish

2 ай бұрын

@@charlesmartin1121 Nothing natural about politics. It has nothing to do with fossils nor biology. Pull your head out of your ass and just enjoy the topic at hand without inserting political shit into it.

@kingslayya6876

2 ай бұрын

​@@charlesmartin1121​ biden lovers devolving into sheepus maximus

@Refr1

2 ай бұрын

Politics have no place in paleontology.

out of Africa is a theory

@m.r4841

Ай бұрын

It’s not

Monke