Hey Guys. This video was focused on the behavior of the control link but what I also did notice is that the Goggles 2 had higher mbps vs. the Goggles V1 when I turned around and started to head back. This is the same behavior I saw when I was comparing and testing the Goggles V2 vs. Goggles 2 and I think it has to do with the patch antennas that come stock with the Goggles 2. Also, note that in Test 2 (Goggles left in garage), the Controller 1 did not reconnect until I was right outside the garage door. Similar to what we saw with the Controller 2.

Nice video

Hi Mangorille, Thank you for the extended comparison video. Is there a reason why you used your garage to conduct your test, including closing the garage door? From my perspective and limited experience, and I apologize if I’m totally in left field with what I’m about to say/ask, but hear it goes. I don’t see this test reflecting a true practical environment. The garages seems to contain numerous metal tools that could be effecting the signal and if your garage door is a metal door, than that adds to the poor signal in all cases.

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

Hey. No problem... It depends on the type of flying you typically do and where you fly. I usually fly around trees, light poles, fences, from inside the car, etc. so this was a representative test for me. The important thing is that I used the same garage and setup in all the tests so I can get a consistent comparison between the Controller 2 and Controller 1.

@samavella8831

Жыл бұрын

@@Mangorille You don’t have to, but it would be interesting to see if the results are consistent if you retested everything outside the garage. From my experience different systems behave different depending on the environment! Just my two cents!

Great thanks for doing the test! I was wondering what would the results be if tested with the DJI Controller 2 (gray) connected to the vista module with Googles 2? I think this is the only scenario to be tested by you to be complete. 🙂

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

I haven't tried, perhaps a future video ;)

if you update the firmware and fly vistas with the dji controller 2 will that cause the same problems as it does with the o3 air unit?

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

I haven't tried, perhaps a future video ;)

Did you do Test 3 with controller 2 as well? In the video only behaviour of controller 1 is show or did I miss something?

@Mangorille

3 ай бұрын

Yes, it was done in a different video. Link here: kzread.info/dash/bejne/faudzbqDmbfYY7w.html

Great tests! thank you for this information, on the (DJI FPV Goggles V2 with Remote 1) which component lost entire signal before? the Goggles or the Remote? great advice at the end of the video, I'm also waiting for DJI to fix the bugs on the Remote 2 before I jump on the 03 wagon. Best regards.

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

The quad got lots of rxloss warnings and failsafed before the video signal was completely lost. However, in practice, I most likely would have crashed given the blocky and choppy video before the failsafe.

@hknight007

Жыл бұрын

@@Mangorille Thanks! And also right on the spot with the real life crash example 👍👍. All my quads have Crossfire but I'm switching them to DJI remote 1 (the Cell Towers in country blows Crossfire away), I saw long time ago that the remote 1 failsafes before the goggles... but recently I started to do more research to give the remote 1 another chance and several people claim that the remote 1 is very solid and failsafes after the Goggles. I'll be performing test with Cell Towers and the Remote 1 (with Vista/Air Unit 1) soon, to be completly sure if Crossfire has to go :( Thanks again! Awesome videos 👍👍👍

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

@@hknight007 You're welcome. I've had no problems with the remote 1 been working flawlessly for my type of flying the last 3 years.

@hknight007

Жыл бұрын

@@Mangorille Thats great! Glad to hear that 👍👍. If the DJI remote passes my Cell Tower tests, then I was thinking to keep them both in the quad (DJI Remote for Urban flying, Crossfire for Rural and for Wall penetration). I do long range flying and thats why need the best range and quality signal, could this be achieved by having them both wired and then switching the config in Betaflight? (Activating one and deactivating the other with their UARTs). Thank you 👍👍

@rafaelm3404

Жыл бұрын

@@hknight007 in my experience with indoors real estate tours (and here what matters is penetration, not range), the controller v1 always had better connection than the googles v2 with my vistas. Its a pretty solid controller! Both in connection and build quality. Battery is also great, better than my new rc2 (for the o3). However the connection on my new rc2 is just amazing, it hardly ever looses a bar on the rc link. The smaller form factor is a very nice thing for me, coming from a big playstation gaming background lol But for this rc2 controller the extended sticks is a must. The rc2 feels sooo good with the bigger sticks

the link and transmission systems are separete that is way you lost control link, the googles and the controler bot put out their own tran to the drone and the drone recives both .

Out of interest, did you test what happens if the Video link is gone (ie unplug goggle battery etc), does the RC Link get immediately dropped?

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

On the controller 1, you don’t lose the control link when the goggles are disconnected. It’s the controller 2 that has this problem.

@dc-fpv1801

Жыл бұрын

@@Mangorille thanks for confirming, in my own testing I found the same, so it seems its some bug (or unfortunate intended behaviour) introduced in the design of RC2, as opposed to an inherent flaw in the DJI architecture.

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

@@dc-fpv1801 What I suspect is happening is that in the old system the controller would connect directly to the air unit as an independent link whereas in the new system, the controller can run a link directly to the air unit or through the goggles. When the goggles are on, it links through the goggles and then when the goggles lose connection, it has to "reset" and connect directly to the air unit, which takes a couple of seconds or actually doesn't seem to reconnect when you're far away based on the testing I did. Hopefully through firmware updates, they can make it so that the controller always connects directly to the air unit.

It's best time to buy V1 system used.

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

Yup or buy the v2 at a discount. Lots of places giving good discounts.

I have input in beta flight from my DJI controller 2 but im unable to get my quad to arm.Arm is set to aux 3 and prearm is set to aux 4

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

Do you see the arming mode activate when you look in Betaflight (remove your props for safety)? Turn on your warnings on the OSD and see what arming error you are getting.

@kalebpoe7008

Жыл бұрын

When I click my prearm button my prearm lights up correctly under modes and when I click my arm button it also lights up(obviously gonna be disabled since I’m connected to beta flight)

@kalebpoe7008

Жыл бұрын

I don’t believe I’m getting a arming warning in my osd because I have them turned on and when arming got nothing

@kalebpoe7008

Жыл бұрын

My flight controller also has a red light on and a blue flashing light

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

@@kalebpoe7008 Hmm, do you have the goggles connected as well? Some reported needing to "activate" the controller by having it to connect to the goggles the first time. I haven't had this happen but may be worth a shot doing the usual update firmware, connect all the components, etc. troubleshooting.

Hey, thank you for this video! I wonder if controller 2 is really better than controller 1? I got controller 1 with my o1 equipped drone. I'd like to update the hardware but do it in steps to spread the expenses. I know that controller 1 seems bulky compared to controller 2, other than that Idk if controller 2 is better than 1. Thanks in advance.

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

I don't like the controller 2. I'd go for something more like a traditional controller instead unless you need the controller 2 for something like the Avata. kzread.info/dash/bejne/g4akqpWcaaqTiZc.html

@yolo-cars

Жыл бұрын

@@Mangorille Thank you! I see DJI FPV Remote Controller isn't compatible with o3 unit. It's sad. I guess this is how DJI makes money. I expect the Remote Controller 2 won't be compatible with a future air unit...

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

@@yolo-cars That's the big unknown, you're at the mercy of DJI and how their compatibility roadmap.

@yolo-cars

Жыл бұрын

@@Mangorille I totally agree.

Thats me ❤

Still… We’re not all crazy pilots who fly 2+ kilometers away. The controller2 works perfect for normal people who fly let’s say max 500m away from the take-off point. Every system has his limit but if you fly more or less legally there is never an issue about range.

@Mangorille

10 ай бұрын

I lost confidence in the controller 2 when I fail safed about 5m in front of myself. This was when the goggles 2 first released though so possible that they have improved. I just don't trust it and moved over to ELRS.

The new system is not worth it.

@Mangorille

Жыл бұрын

It has some pros but I think it needs a bit more refinement. We had issues with the prior system initially as well that got resolved through firmware updates and aftermarket parts.