Ok, I'm gonna start with H2. 🤙

@papicholo623

3 жыл бұрын

no bro thats little bit small what you need is an h2r.

@zigmindana4426

3 жыл бұрын

Go for the turbo busa as a starter bike

@Michelrclife

2 жыл бұрын

i want one so bad!

@dory4498

2 жыл бұрын

2 is smaller than 7 so yeah that makes sense

@underarmpack6857

2 жыл бұрын

@@dory4498 maths

I’m a new rider and this is my first bike. I got it in black. I really love it and I enjoyed watching this video- very informative. It really doesn’t break your back it’s comfortable to ride on and yes you do have much better control gripping at the knees. At first I put my weight on the handlebar and it was very difficult to ride. Once it clicked using knees it made a world of a difference.

@PRHLDSHETTY

2 жыл бұрын

Congratulations 🎊 loving ❤ from India.. Waiting this baby in india

@thechapman4894

2 жыл бұрын

I'm considering buying one soon and this will be my first bike. Can you plant your feet on the ground? How tall are you?

@jiimmiij4428

2 жыл бұрын

Damn you got an Instagram?

@masongomes71

2 жыл бұрын

@@thechapman4894 facts I’m 5’5 & 110 pounds so I’m wondering if I can touch the ground on it and handle the weight for my first bike. It weighs a bit less then the Ninja 650 so I’m assuming we should be good

@aliabdi6094

2 жыл бұрын

How tall are you? I'm pretty short 166 cm. Just wanna know if it fits.

The term "beginner bikes" is always depending on how mature the person who is going to ride it is. But when that said, I would always recommend lighter and probably also more upright bikes as beginner bikes, cuz' it's easier to "learn" how to be a good rider on a lighter bike. But if you're mature enough, and don't think with the right wrist, then why not :)

@user-xf3sc6zf7j

3 жыл бұрын

well said, g

@alexturnqest6202

3 жыл бұрын

This is a great way of putting it! 👍🏾

@worldhello1234

3 жыл бұрын

Maturity has nothing to do with comfort and competency. :)

@Rabessey

3 жыл бұрын

Growing old is mandatory, growing up is optional.

@uchitvadher1836

3 жыл бұрын

👏🏼

FIRST THING YOU SHOULD DO WHEN YOU BUY A BIKE THAT HAS ADJUSTABLE SUSPENSION: Pay to have the suspension set up for you, your body weight and riding style. Learned this lesson on my Honda CBR600RR, night and day difference, made me feel completely connected with my bike after the suspension was adjusted to me.

@aliabdi6094

2 жыл бұрын

Where do I get it adjusted?

@MrKlein83

2 жыл бұрын

@@aliabdi6094 Either a motorcycle dealership, or motorcycle repair shop (motorcycle mechanic). If you buy a bike from a dealership try to negotiate them adjusting the suspension for free as part of the purchase deal.

@MrKlein83

Жыл бұрын

@Drew My local motorcycle shop charges about $40 & it's worth every penny. A dealership might charge you more. If you are buying (new or used) a bike from a dealer I'd ask them to include it in the sale.

@joek81981

5 ай бұрын

This is the truth. ^^ I paid a guy $50 to fully fiddle with it when I got it, and I've left it alone since. Its not a deal you play with throughout the day. My weight hasn't changed in 20 years, so I don't play with the dials, tempting as they are to turn.

Great video! Love the blue. So my experience as a first time rider and this as my first bike has been absolutely fantastic. I had literally never sat on a motorcycle until I got the r7. I have about 1200 miles and I’m hooked. I do agree about the aggressive seating position. Cheers

This bike looks like the bike I’ll be getting. Incredible value, styling and performance. Yamaha have been very clever with the R7

I had the opportunity to buy this beauty as my first bike. I’ve had it for about 2 months now and it was the best decision I made. I can’t speak for everyone, but as long as you have respect for the power of these bikes and you have ( right wrist ) control you should be fine. Like Chase said, you can’t start on any bike you want just respect it and know your capabilities. Remember the bike will go as fast as you want it to...

@Daniel-dj7fh

3 жыл бұрын

most people can't even mentally respect the power of a 300, that's the problem. Here in Germany, 9.5 from 10 125cc riders ride too fast, little do they know that their brakes suck and they lack the experience to stop a bike when it comes to the meat. A2 people, similar story but maybe we're talking about 70% of the riders. But now they can go even faster. And in the A category you'll maybe have 30% braindead riders.

@cosito628

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh I agree with you 100%; hence why I said you need to know your capabilities. If you have no sense of control then you should not be on a motorcycle, especially as a new rider.

@rajareegan3982

3 жыл бұрын

Are you having R7

@cosito628

3 жыл бұрын

@@rajareegan3982 Yes

@ChaoticMartian

3 жыл бұрын

@@cosito628 1 question is how? Isnt release in December?

I found an old, kind of beat up 2001 r6 for my first bike. It was stretched and lowered. I had no previous riding experience. Being set up the way it was really helped me feel out the throttle and learn how disciplined I needed to be while also feeling confident to accelerate quickly. By month 3 I removed those mods and put it to stock. It felt like a different bike. Way better handling, acceleration felt scary again because pulling a wheelie was an actuality and I was still afraid of a whiskey throttle wheelie. A month later my bike took a shit and I upgraded to a 2007 r1. A season later and I felt very confident in my ability to ride that bike within my limits and still had a lot of throttle to grow into. Just keeping it really low in the rpm range leashed it's potential and made it feel easy to ride.

I think you convinced me bro! Price point, look , ergonomics, this jawn is perfect! I don't have any experience on bikes but I've watched your page, motonosity , fast lane d , rpstv , max wrist for YEARS! i think im ready now 🤣🤣

@bruddamanlo9036

Жыл бұрын

Same here havent started yet but thinking what kinda fucking bike i want to start off with!

@filiplaskovski9993

Жыл бұрын

They got a great motor bro the mt07’s have proven to be super reliable !!! Their engines are tops

OC: Wait for a R9 to come out.. MT09 engine on an r6 body... yes please

@onewisedre

3 жыл бұрын

Go get your watered down sportsbike it'll go good with your ovaries.

@chriscoop5839

3 жыл бұрын

OC, yea R9 all the way!

@TheCyberMantis

3 жыл бұрын

R9 would be awesome, as long as it does not have the riding ergos of an R6. R6 was the most uncomfortable moto I ever test-rode. ( For reference: I own a 2012 CBR1000RR, which I LOVE. )

@jessaphillips2846

3 жыл бұрын

Careful you might make Chase have some problems in his pants

@onewisedre

2 жыл бұрын

@No_Name lol nerd? Better than a wannabe buying a bike that looks fast...

Outro Crew ... getting mine in 6 months (reasons). 2nd time watching, needed to be reminded why I set my heart on this bike. Cheers, Chase.

i turned 25 in june, bought a 2012 r6 as my first bike i love it. its more than enough bike for me

Loved how excited you got about the brz.😂 always makes me happy when someone gets excited seeing my car.

Pretty much agree with everything you said except for leaving the suspension alone. While I agree that suspension is something that new riders probably shouldn't mess with on their own it's definitely a good idea to have someone with experience set it up for them as everyone is a different size/weight and that will dramatically effect handling.

@Daniel-dj7fh

3 жыл бұрын

"suspension is something that new riders probably shouldn't mess with" you just said it again, newbies shouldn't mess with it. Newbies should also learn basic handling before given a bike which is tailored for their weight. Imagine someone pampered with perfect suspension and weighs abit more gets on a sumo, all their "learned" riding is half of worth because they'd not know what a bike with sloppy suspension does when breaking hard, or cornering hard or anything like that.

@Christian-Berger

3 жыл бұрын

You're missing the point. You should always have your suspension set up for your weight. Your suspension is the most important safety measure that isn't controlled by the rider. I'm not saying they need to go try to dial in they're compression and rebound or start replacing things but you should have it adjusted for your size so you don't pay for something the bike does or doesn't do in response to road imperfections.

@Daniel-dj7fh

3 жыл бұрын

@@Christian-Berger Surely it's a good thing to do, but it's not gonna benefit a newbie much. They have to learn how to ride first before caring about how the suspension sinks in in a hard curve because it's too soft or something.

@Christian-Berger

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh for me at 225 braking on my fz09 when I first got it was significantly easier to control without the nose dating a 6" dive everytime I thought about touching the brakes. No, at the time I didn't notice every little difference but it overall felt safer and easier to ride and learn on. I guess that the thing I'm trying to say if your new and your suspension is almost non exist and because you're either too light to make it move or too heavy for it to dampen anything it only makes it harder to feel confident, safe, and willing to try more to improve.

@Christian-Berger

3 жыл бұрын

@Shane Dorange I'm not signing up for anything. You've completely missed the point I was making.

Thank you so much for this info. I'm looking to get back into riding and love the look of the Yamaha bikes. I've been thinking between the R3 and the R7 but i've driven a 750 before so I think I can handle the R7. The reliability info is extremely valuable. Thanks again and hope we cross paths in the near future!

OC: It’s a pretty great bike that looks like it can be universally used by riders of all skill. And you seem to like it a lot. So maybe you should get it

I tried this bike along with the Ninja 400 and for my personal preference I was more comfortable handling the 400. I was able to flat foot and it wasn’t as heavy. As a beginner rider this is important to me because I want to crawl before I walk and be comfortable while learning. Plus if I upgrade who said having a little bike collection is a bad thing😉 this video was very informative and I appreciate this kind of content.

Bro thanks so much for this video. This was definitely the edge I needed to finally get one.

I started with an '03 R6, it's my first bike and this season is my first riding season! haven't "haddalayerdown", only gently laid the bike over when stopped or really slow (still getting used to the clutch!). some of the fairings, mainly on the right side, have road rash and a couple of cracks from being dropped at speed on a track by a previous owner, but is otherwise a beautiful bike! as everyone has already pointed out, you can start on anything so long as you're mature enough to handle it! love my psychopath bike, great content chase

Man. I have some riding experience from my younger days and am looking to get back into it. I think the R7 would be a great platform but i just cant get over those damn indicators. Why didnt yamaha put em in the mirrors? Hopefully some mods will come out to change em. Really love the bike and thank you for the info. New sub.

OC: You totally should i’d love to see it get track prepped and thanks for the video the R7 is gonna be my first bike (already preordered) and these videos excite me as i wait for it’s arrival

Dope video. Really consider this as my first bike. This video really helped a lot.

Had a MT03 as my starter bike and after almost two years I bought a R7. First ride was out on the rain and thanks to my previous knowledge it felt smooth riding it out of the dealership

@HumblePeon2

Жыл бұрын

Are you happy with your choice? Dou think the R7 is a big enough jump from the R3 after two years? I have an R3 as well, but am considering options for my next bike, probably in a year or so.

Idk but it sure as hell gonna be my second motorcycle. I've been on the fence on what to upgrade up to. (I started on a 300cc) but the R7 is just 😤👌 MMM exactly what I was looking for

Great video, I'm already waiting for my R7 to be available! :) What I'd love to see about this bike is like 'in depth' review which includes showing the storage capacity under rear seat, etc. Dunno why but almost nobody makes these!

@konto180

3 жыл бұрын

I didn't say these are important things and none of them were considered as pros or cons during my selection process. Although R7 is not available in Europe at all - you can't even see it in the dealership until October. So, for me, it would be nice to cover that :)

OC crew!! 😎 thanks for the advice I’m definitely debating on the R3 and R7

My first bike was my Ducati 848. Still alive. The thing with throttles, is you can always close them. I think the R7 is a good power level, for a beginner with a bit of restraint.

I saw an R7 for the first time yesterday and although it’s a quiet bike compared to super sports it’s actually pretty fast, so anyone wanted an R6 as a first bike I would think about the R7 as it’s probably gonna be better for beginners…thank you for ready my rant 😁👍

@drewmoto732

3 жыл бұрын

It is not quiet when you put an after market exhaust system. It is an absolute monster after that.

@lefrenchy9021

Жыл бұрын

its cuz of the exhaust, ive heard some r7s with aftermarket exhausts that sound amazing

@samvarney2319

Жыл бұрын

@@lefrenchy9021any recommendation for exhausts?

@qowh799

11 ай бұрын

@@samvarney2319m4, toce, yosuimura are some good ones

@RicegumRicebum

4 ай бұрын

@@samvarney2319akrapovic

Awesome keep that R7 content coming as I am still waiting for mine to arrive in October.

@derekanaya

2 жыл бұрын

How is it?

@devilmaycry383

2 жыл бұрын

@@derekanaya I had to cancel it as I ended up getting a hold of a Toyota GR Yaris Circuit Pack, I'll just have to stick with my MT-07 in the meantime.

As for the total beginner, this is the perfect video. I really like it. honestly, I had a few tears while watching. Voice, info, nice motorcycle. My choice was at R3 or R6, but I made my choice after this video. Didn't know R7 exist, and now this IS my choice. Especially the question about weight was tingling to me, and 414 lb or 180 Kg is woooh good for me.

Great hi-quality video as normal. I don't see anybody else mention it, but there is a lot of whistling noise in the audio when you hit around 50 mph. I think cause the audio is so good/clear it stands out. Maybe just me, but thought I'd mention it as constructive criticism.

OC my R7 reservation is set for delivery in September, would be cool to see you having one at the same time, mods and what not

Something I would like to touch on is for a new rider I would recommend buying used or pre owned certified and using the money you saved to make sure you get good gear.

@kevinc2332

Жыл бұрын

2nd that

I used to not care for the Yamaha blue but man it has grown on me. I really love this bike in blue.

Lookin' at this as well! Thanks for the amazing, informative information as always. OC

OC: I actually think it's an interesting idea to get an R7! Lmao I mean you've got the mt-10, a naked liter bike with 4 cylinders. Might be interesting to get a smaller cc with sport fairings and fewer cylinders. Also hasn't seen so much of R7, so I think it'll be a cool chase thingamabob, idk.

Great video Chase! As an experienced rider, I think this is the best thing since sliced bread, for both beginners and advanced riders. I will definatly have one in my stable when available:)

OC; just had my first day on the range at the local CMSP in southern California, and definitely looking forward to getting into this hobby/skill. Thanks for the great info.

Very good review. Thankyou so much!

I’m on a Drz400sm and when it was down I was put on a loaner Tiger 800 and I loved how quick it was but the 400 is lighter. All I’m saying is a lighter bike is easier to start on compared to a heavier bike

OC - I really want one next season as my first bike!

ive been watching alot of videos on this bike and been riding my LS650 around for a little over 2000 miles and had a detonation recently and while im rebuilding that i wanted to get something more funand sporty and ive been leaning towards an R6 then i saw this and immediately was hooked and wanted one my bestfriend has a Cb300R and it was a tad faster than my 650 and ive been wanting another sport bike and i can definetly say this is the one im going with thanks Chase and everyone else im gonna enjoy that bike my local dealer has one and im going to check it out on my next day off.

OC: Most definitely you guys’ shop is down the road from where I live. When you passed Charlie’s II I was like “Oh shit! Love that place!” 😂 Anyways- as someone who’s interested in riding, seems like a very informative and solid video! Thanks a bunch!

I started on a cbr 250 with 24 horsepower. It was perfect, highly recommend. I started off as a pretty good rider but man I made a lot of mistakes. It just takes time. I didn't lose a penny when I sold it, and learned how to really ride it. That's what your focus needs to be in the beginning, and low hp helps you to learn and actually ride. When I stepped up to a triumph daytona I was ready, it was appropriate, and it was so fun.

I have an R3 and I also love my R3. That being said...I really wouldn't mind upgrading to an R7 when possible! LOL

Bro I so agree with the 650 being a good beginner bike that you can keep for years!. I got my Ninja 650 as first bike in 2007..that's 15 years ago and still rides it for commute! oc

This won’t be my first bike but my first super sport. I think you sold me. Thanks for the informative video, extremely helpful man

Okay so 1st thing, if you have never been on a bike, an R7 is not what you want. R3 or ninja 400 at max. Stupid to say an h2 is fine, if youve never been on a bike an r3 will feel like a nissan gtr. Start small, learn how to ride and move up💯

I had the R7 for my first bike, absolutely amazing. Ate shit a week after I bought it when a lady ran a stop sign at a blind corner, She was at fault, so I think I might be getting it back. For all I know, I'm the first person to have crashed the R7 lmfaoo

@michiganmoto7687

3 жыл бұрын

Damn that sucks. Hope your ok. My bike tried to eat a deer 🦌 about two weeks ago. Deer dead and the plastics damage bill was $1100. Just waiting on a back ordered part so I can put it all back together. It’s a 2021 that I paid cash for and rather than turn it in to insurance I just bought the parts myself. Don’t want rate increase. Lol

Love your videos bro keep it up

I take that. R3 any day of the week for training and I won't look back and regret it for being a reliable and beginners ,user friendly bike .

The only pitfall with this bike is the price. I feel like 9000 msrp and 10000+ dollars out the door probably for a R7 is way too much. And them being so new that used bikes won't come into availability for a few years, I just wouldn't seem comfortable with 10K+ under my legs. Its also in a wierd place competition wise. 700 dollars more and you get an inline 4 cbr650 making 10 or 15 more hp. 1700 dollars less, you get the Ninja 650 which has the same longevity, similar engine smoothness, and that Supersport look. Plus a wide market of used variants.

@skippypeanutbutter9136

3 жыл бұрын

Or you can get a new or slightly used ZX6R with far more tech, more power and more aftermarket support for the same price or less. Obviously not the same class/category of bikes but people are definitely weighing the tradeoffs (especially as a "next bike" versus a starter bike)

OC awesome review. Really helpful. Was looking at buying an R3 as a starter bike, but I had the same thought you mentioned later in the video which is: I’m gonna be riding my first bike for years, and I don’t want to end up really comfortable riding and be stuck on a 300cc or trade up. I’m also really tall so I feel like I need a bigger bike. Your review made me a little less nervous about starting on a 700cc since the R7 is so relatively tame. I’m so excited to get it this week. Thanks for the video!

@miguel90744

2 жыл бұрын

What you get

Great vid. Pretty sure this is gonna be my first bike!

thank you for not having drama on your channel

650 and R7 are in the same category. Good power, smooth delivery. As long as you're not a total clutz they are perfect beginner bikes

@Daniel-dj7fh

3 жыл бұрын

similar category. hondas 650's make 20hp more and have a different motor characteristic, husquvarna's 701 makes more torque with about the same power i think?

@Daniel-dj7fh

3 жыл бұрын

What am I arguing you are right lul

OC: Most definitely. You should get an R7. Seeing as the price for an R6 isn't really gonna be coming down anytime soon. I say a R7 variant of Holly would be nice.

@2DRMAV

3 жыл бұрын

OC: I'm not sure if you did that on purpose, but if you did it was a really nice play on words considering that Chase's old helmet was an Icon Variant. Haha👍👍

@Frank_Torre

3 жыл бұрын

@@2DRMAV Yeah. Been watching Chase's channel since way back then. I started riding not long before discovering his channel. Always did like Holly and even got an Icon Variant cuz thought it was a cool looking helmet after seeing it on Chase's channel.

OC : yeah you should definately get it and keen to see what mods you would do with it. Sadly its not in Australia yet but i'd get this for my first bike thats for sure !!

I started with a ZX-10R. 6 weeks later went down a tooth in the front and up 2 in the rear. PC3 intake exhaust tuned it ohlins damper. Gold chain. Never wrecked the bike after 3 years sold it for more than I paid. Probably rare but it’s possible if you’re mature for your age and always think about the dangers of riding

Probably a bit much for a new rider, I’m completely happy with my R3 a year later. ECU Flash, R6 Throttle Tube, Toce Full System, Airbox/Filter. I think the sweet spot is 50HP, so the Ninja 400, ZX-4R, R4 would be the ultimate starter bike.

@Daniel-dj7fh

3 жыл бұрын

your r3 does 50hp? Omg shits faster than my cb500f (cant do big mods, Germany doesn't allow)

@clutchboi4038

3 жыл бұрын

My cbr600rr was the ultimate starter bike. A year later I wanted the cbr1000rr lol.

@Daniel-dj7fh

3 жыл бұрын

@@clutchboi4038 any crashes in the 1 year of riding you've done?

@keganjensen2605

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh I’ve been riding for about a year. Started on an R3 and rode it for a few months then bought an R6. I’d say if a new rider wanted to start on a 600 the r6 isn’t that bad cuz all the torque is in the high rev range. If you just know in the back of your head keep the rpms under 10k unless you wanna start flying haha. I haven’t had issues with keeping the wheel down even when I yank the throttle.

OC: man been looking for a good beginner bike and was thinking the R3 but I’m 6’2 and think maybe the R7 is a better choice. Might need to snag one

@Daniel-dj7fh

3 жыл бұрын

Just because a bike has more displacement, doesn't make the bike physically bigger. The R7 assuming it's similarly sized as the mt07 is borderline as big as a cb500f/cbr500r. Being 6,2 you'd be better off on a cb500x or a yamaha t7, but you'd have to like the looks of adventure bikes. Or go for the sumos/cross bikes like the Honda crf300, they usually tend to be pretty tall. You'll just have to believe me, when I first saw a panigale in person I was shocked at how small they were, would have been too small for my 5'11. But the v4's got width and length to compensate the height

Short rider here, I felt the MT-09 and 10 were pretty tall and fell in love with the R7 feel!

@deedle6073

7 ай бұрын

How tall are you?

I’ve done 90k miles on my R3 & This Bike with a MotoGp paint job would be amazing..Good review man..✌🏻

"I started on a 650".... It's still amazing to hear this as a Brit

@englishsteel-nz6im

2 жыл бұрын

I started on a 650 and still have it and have fun on it even tho I have a few more powerful bikes now. 650 really is a winner as an all around street bike. Don't know why UK is so restrictive about licensing and so on--- in one respect I do agree get the M1 license in the US with no exp other than passing a class and DMV test and buying an R1 is crazy..... but the UK stuff is the other crazy having to start with a 125 lol. A 650 is by no means overpowered in a mature beginners hands.

@seancrowe3353

2 жыл бұрын

@@englishsteel-nz6im the problem is most beginner motorbike riders are under 20. They can't afford a super fast car but they can get their hands on a 600 or litre bike. It's a recipe for death. I currently live in Taiwan and they have three tiers. The first goes to 250cc. The second is 250-500c. Third above 500cc. This is much better as even a 150cc can handle my weight whereas a 125 struggles. I'm trying to get a 250 but there's not much in the market here. When I get back to the UK I'll do my full A licence so i can get a 500 or 600. I'm 40 lol

@englishsteel-nz6im

2 жыл бұрын

@@seancrowe3353 Totally, I think it's rather crazy an under 21 with no exp in the US can go get an R1 or a Hayabusa lol(I've owned a GSXR750 and I wouldn't even want a modern R1, they're completely insane) -- but I was just stating that having it restricted to 125s or 250s for beginner riders is extreme too. A careful 25 year old can't get a 500 or a 650? I believe in personal choice anyway. Something like this bike an R7 is definitely not too much for a mature beginner that will practice skill and value their own lives lol.

@englishsteel-nz6im

2 жыл бұрын

@@seancrowe3353 You ought to consider the Aprilia 660 or the CBR650R if avail in UK. Nice bridge of sporty bikes with ample power for the street between a supersport and a 650 naked. It's really all about practical performance-- 600 supersport is amazing fun on the track but they aren't fun on the street. I wish this R7 in fact had a power profile similar to the CBR650R as it's a beautiful bike. Main bike currently is a Kawa Z900--- if something released fully faired and decked out with this engine it'd be ideal lol.

@seancrowe3353

2 жыл бұрын

@@englishsteel-nz6im cheers dude. I like the GSXR750 and I'm fond of Daytonas too

it all depends on the riders skill as u grow and experience everyday riding.. i ride a 600cc but im more having fun in a 300cc even at traffic im more comfortable

I'm a viewer from the Philippines 🇵🇭 Ride safe always bro. God bless

I started in 1985 on the Kawasaki ninja 600r but had years of dirt riding up to 400cc Yamahas and had my head on right for street riding saving the stupid for the track…….mostly. Made sure my stupidity wouldn’t effect anyone but me and geared up for it. It really does depend on your confidence and maturity level. If you think you’re gonna be a max wrist kind of rider when you first start that lesson is going to be painful if not fatal. Keep your head

I’m an amputee and still looking forward to getting a sport bike! Recommendation between the R3 and the R7? I’m probably going to have it about 6years until trade in.

@bawnix4700

2 жыл бұрын

R7 just so you don’t grow out of it :)

YAMAHA: So how much of RDNA do u want? MT07: YES!!

Starting on a H2, preciate the advice bro!

Dialing in the suspension is a huge benefit for experienced and New riders. Obviously New riders should be taking it to a shop so it can properly be dialed in so it's less worrying on them

Yes, it might just be the best 650 class sportbike to start on. The throttle response is butter smooth on the R7, I found it very easy to ride even if I found it a bit cramped (it is smol bike). The tuning on the R7 version of the CP2 is not jerky at all, may be the smoothest throttle I've ever ridden. And the power is so linear that it's not going to get away from you. If it was a bit more comfortable I'd totally consider one as it has near perfect handling in the twisties, maybe the best canyon bike ever.

@Yoursistersazz

Жыл бұрын

This isn't a 650 it's a 689 it's in a class of it's own really

Seems like kind of an expensive bike to start on and have your first couple drops on just to loose $2-3k+ on it when you sell it for something bigger. IMO if you wanna start on the R7 just wait until you can find them used and in the meantime get a used R3.

@ptacosnipe

3 жыл бұрын

This is good advice, you can absolutely rail on a used small displacement bike while you learn and get more comfortable with motorcycles in different situations.

OC outro crew… thanks for the advice I’m getting an H2 when I finally get my license 😁

Thanks for the info. I really like this bike.

I’m going back and forth between R7 and Ninja 650. Love the look of the R7 but the price tag and the larger fuel tank make me lean toward the 650. Would love to hear folks who know either with detail opinions! I’ve ridden dirt bikes by both brands so I don’t really have a brand preference.

@Yamabrah_YZF

2 жыл бұрын

The r7 is a true-to standard super sport regarding ergonomics and despite the 74hp power is there too. The suspension and quality is also on par with other super sports. The ninja 650 is a great bike, but it’s not a sports bike by any means. It’s what we would classify as a sport touring motorcycle, it’s still very sporty but it’s standard suspension, along with its upright seating position really puts it into a class comparable to the tracer 700, the Honda nc700, and other sport touring motorcycles utilizing a p-twin engine. The r7 is really a competitor for the RS660 and the cbr650.

Hopefully R7 will be available in malaysia 😆

@bebeKoRider

3 жыл бұрын

and in the Philippines..:)

OC - I just ordered my first motorcycle. Well, I put a down payment on a 2021 MT-09SP. They are on back order at my local shop. I wanted all the different mode, the 6-Axis IMU, a quick shifter and cruise control. I'm used to a clutch as most of the cars I've owned had manual transmissions, and I used to race bicycles so I'm comfortable leaning to steer. Just because it's a 'fast bike' - doesn't mean I have to wind it out in each gear. I can drive it like an old man, even though I'm extremely young at 63. My next step is to take the MTC next month. I figure it'll take at least 2 months for the bike to arrive, so I'm in no hurry. I love the videos - keep 'em coming!

@johnnygonzalez4209

2 ай бұрын

How much did you put down

@Rabessey

Ай бұрын

@@johnnygonzalez4209 I put down $3,000, but they'd have taken $500. I've got one payment left, then it's 100% mine

OC: i need you to get this as your track bike , my god , i need this in ya garage man !

OC: I think this would be a great bike to own and modify.

OC:You didn't make a single comparison with anything other than a Yamaha. My first thought was how it compares to the CBR650R and I'm left still wondering. This kinda seems like a Yamaha commercial.

@colbyd.5044

2 жыл бұрын

True the thumbnail did say he would compare it to other bikes rather then give his opinion on the bike itself being good for starting on or not.. some people

@WASTED__POTENTIAL

2 жыл бұрын

@@colbyd.5044 my bad. I forgot how unusual it is to compare a product to it's competitors when doing a review... some people.

@colbyd.5044

2 жыл бұрын

@@WASTED__POTENTIAL no worries man now you know. That would be better suited for a Yamaha commercial this guys just going over whether the bike in particular is good for beginners. Don’t beat yourself up easy mistake!

OC: can’t wait for mine to arrive in Aus in December. Upgrading from a Ninja 400 and think this will be the perfect bike to suit my new abilities and confidence moving on from my first ever bike

I have a friend of mine that has a 1st gen sv650 that he's had for almost 20 years now. He's rebuilt the motor 3 times and track days on the regular. I feel like the MT and the R7 are going to be the new SV650. OC!

Putting the weight on legs not hands, that's important. Hope I heard this earlier, learned it the hard way. 🤣

@Daniel-dj7fh

3 жыл бұрын

learned the hard way? Your wrists f*** for life now or?

@dearbulls

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh not that hard fortunately, just shifting the weight to handle bar at braking and the handlebar slipped and twisted down (it was a used ninja 650r) which pulled on the brake cable and fully locking the front brake. Luckily it was in a parking lot and speed is low. I involuntarily did my first front wheelie with the bike standing vertical, and then we both landed on the outside of my left leg. 🤣 All damage was a dent on the tank and a broken foot peg. I'm okay

@Daniel-dj7fh

3 жыл бұрын

@@dearbulls I wouldn't say it's hard but if you need to trailbreak you're probably going too fast for the public road to begin with. Also load at the front in a corner could wash that out. I'd rather have the rear wash out any day over the front doing that

@dearbulls

3 жыл бұрын

@@Daniel-dj7fh nah, it was very early when I first started to ride the bike and I misread the guide. Reading the DMVs rule book which said "70% brake force on front and 30% on rear", so I did exactly than using mostly front brake to slow down. It's not trailbreaking, just some stupid language barrier. I'd be better off if I didn't read it at all and just ride like a bicycle 😆

@ministerpillowes

3 жыл бұрын

@@dearbulls yeah the DMV’s 70-30 front/rear is not so accurate for sport bikes. Stoppies are 100-0 lol

I'd love to see a MT-07 SP with the R7 suspension, gearing, engine tune. As a bigger guy I did find the R7 to be cramped

@Rabessey

3 жыл бұрын

I'd have gotten an MT-07 SP, but they don't make 'em, so I got a MT-09 SP....WCYD?

Great content, im Mc Loving it! OC!

I bought a new r7 as a first bike and I’ll admit you gotta grow into how to ride it but it’s been a great bike and definitely fun to ride first add on you need is tank grips they are a game changer

Yes, it is. Torque delivery across rpm is linear which eliminates unpredictability. So, if you're not a complete moron, you'd know "if unsure, half the dose" which applies to rpm and throttle as well. 🤷‍♂️ Arguably, stalling is not as bad as an unexpected novice wheelie. (Arguable because if you're not the rider then it's usually quite funny)

@sebg2086

3 жыл бұрын

no its not

@blantant

2 жыл бұрын

An electric moto is linear feeling. This feels anything but linear despite the torque curve looking that way on paper. There is a subtle bimodal feel to the power. It is brilliant nonetheless.

We’re in the United States until freeway comes then we are in Mexico.

@chaseontwowheels

3 жыл бұрын

exactly lol

OC: GET IT! I'm currently thinking about selling my 04 R1 and looking at a used newer R1 or a new R7, I'm leaning towards the R7 since I dont track it and 90% of the time I never even get the R1 into half throttle, my buddies friend has a R7 and I'll be test riding it soon

The bike looks so good. I must have it!

It's a great looking bike and I could see a larger person starting on it.. Folks not comfortable on a R3.

@freebehindbars8654

3 жыл бұрын

They’d have more fun and save a good bit of money going the MT 07 route. Think the R7 was a missed opportunity. Not sure why they brought back the R7 nameplate on a bike that doesn’t live up to the original.

@mrvwbug4423

3 жыл бұрын

Nah, the R7 is a small bike. I test rode one and I'm a bigger guy and found the R7 to be cramped, though it rides amazing.

OC : Yes! Get the R7 AND a gym membership. That enginehawk jacket fits too tight on you

My R6 is the single best purchase I’ve ever made, I truly don’t find it to be uncomfortable (not that it’s the most economically mindful machine out there) and it’s brought out a whole mischievous fun loving side of me that I didn’t know existed

What do you think of upgrading from an R3 after 6 months to one of these? It comes out in December in Australia

That's Terrible advice......... new riders should absolutely get the the Sag/Pre-load adjusted to there weight. It's extremely crucial point of safety. Especially with Riders that tend to grad the front Brake to hard.

@chrispeterson1247

3 жыл бұрын

It’s also horrible to tell a brand new rider to get a brand new bike that they will more than likely drop 12 times in the parking lot on the first day! 🙄

Would this be a good second bike or would I be unsatisfied? oc

@p.chakraborty4453

3 жыл бұрын

You would definitely be satisfied

@jordanpoor8006

3 жыл бұрын

@@p.chakraborty4453 I’m coming off of a dr650 I’m about to pull the trigger on pre ordering one of these at my local dealer 🤣

@p.chakraborty4453

3 жыл бұрын

@@jordanpoor8006 hm, definitely double check by testing one before booking mate.

@jordanpoor8006

3 жыл бұрын

@@p.chakraborty4453 alright I’ll see if I can’t schedule a test drive somewhere

@jordanpoor8006

3 жыл бұрын

@@p.chakraborty4453 any other recommendations for a good second bike ? 🏍

I was fortunate enough to get an R7 as my first bike, and as long as you respect the right wrist it's a dream.

Thanks for this! 💯🙏🏼✌🏼

OC: No, you don’t need it. Besides, how many r7s would you have to go through before the universe allowed you to keep it? Ik it took a lot of stolen r6s before the universe just let you have it.