Spectacular Spider-Man had so much potential, its stories were getting better, the characters were getting better and the series was getting better moment by moment & episode by episode. But it was suddenly axed for the stupidest of reasons.

@dzigayu4944

2 жыл бұрын

Another amazing thing that was ruined or axed by Disney.

@jamaalsmemesanalysis5491

2 жыл бұрын

Is it ever possible that they could bring it back?

@the_capitalist_pig

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamaalsmemesanalysis5491 It cant since Disney got the rights to make Spider-Man shows but the rights to specifically Spectacular Spider-Man are still with Sony.

@jujasname

2 жыл бұрын

@@the_capitalist_pig which is very good bro. Disney might ruin Spectacular Spider-man. I don't want any season if they don't bring back the exact writers, directors, voice actors, animators etc.

@SuperLeonBlade

2 жыл бұрын

@@jujasname Ah yes bro because Sony didn't ruin things at all

It's a shame Spectacular Spider-Man was cancelled so early. There was so much stories this show could've told.

@expendableindigo9639

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah it felt like it wasn’t even a third of the way done :(

@alenasenie6928

2 жыл бұрын

@@expendableindigo9639 anything based on comics can go on for a loooooooong time

@idunnolol4385

Жыл бұрын

@@expendableindigo9639 It literally wasn’t😂. We only got 2 seasons and there were 5 seasons planned

@expendableindigo9639

Жыл бұрын

@@idunnolol4385 Well that is technically more than a third lol.

I think the reason why Norman was reciting lines from the play was maybe because he had been practicing with Harry, especially with Norman proclaiming he was proud of Harry, their relationship had probably been built more

@Obi-Wan_Kenobi

2 жыл бұрын

Also, I think Goblin is just plain crazy. I don't think he needs any reason for reciting Shakespeare.

@prideguy3233

2 жыл бұрын

He could also be trying to make Spiderman think it's still Harry.

@R0-83-RT

2 жыл бұрын

I will take this headcanon

@R0-83-RT

2 жыл бұрын

@@prideguy3233 The problem with that is the Goblin did that privately while observing the prison, rather than in front of Spider-Man.

@arthurperalta104

2 жыл бұрын

Perhaps if this series wasn’t abruptly canceled it would be far more iconic for me the 1994 Spider-Man is still the best of all time

As someone who watched this series *as an adult* I think Lowart is being a bit hard on it. Yes, I am the kind of adult who can pretty easily enjoy a Saturday morning cartoon... but I liked not only the stuff Lowart didn't, but even some of the stuff that bothered him. I still day this is the best animated Spider-Man series. Just to be clear, I'm simply disagreeing with him, not disparaging him. ;) It was still a good, quality review.

@carbonated_salt9645

2 жыл бұрын

Woah thats crazy i found the first video just in time to catch this new upload and i didnt even notice till i checked the comments Great work my guy

@John-ct9zs

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah I watched this show as an adult in my 20s back in 2008. I thought it was one of the best Spider-Man shows ever made. It's weird hearing kids who were like 4 years old back then come back years later and pick it apart.

@alenasenie6928

2 жыл бұрын

there is a difference about critiquing something and liking something, for example, i watched mandalorian, i can recognize a lot of flaws, specially in the CGI, it is way to easy to see it, and everyone can see that disney was testing the waters in the first season, the budget didn't seem extremely good, opposite to clone wars season 7, where it was notorious that the budget was good, and mostly allocated to the siege of mandalor, you can see many flaws, some that seemed very big but where explained in other seasons that only fans would notice, i don't put hardcore fans because it is not in books or comics, is details layed out in series, the helmet thing was strange, since the most extremist about tradition, Death Watch, didn't follow that one, so it came out of nowhere, it was an explanation for movie fans for Boba, but anyone that had seen the animated series would see it as a flaw, and i still would argue that it wasn't intended to be corrected in further seasons, things like those happen a lot, and we obviously don't like those details, but the overall story is good, so i still appreciate it, i will stop adding examples because they add nothing, the point is, even when we can criticize it, saying that something specific was not to our liking, it doesn't mean that we didn't like it as a whole.

@RobotScarlet

2 жыл бұрын

I do agree and go beyond what he said on the whole love triangle Peter had going on with Liz and Gwen. Regardless if that’s what the writers meant, it made Peter look like an asshole because at that point he’s dating Liz but constantly bemoaning about Gwen. The group date they all had was absolutely painful to watch and made me view Peter in a very negative way. And it had nothing to do with the fact that he was juggling two different lives, which is far more understandable than this.

@56cea57

2 жыл бұрын

@@RobotScarlet Yeah I never liked that, nor did I understand why they did that

The crazy thing with Eddie and the videotape is that Greg Weismann said that Eddie filmed that before he got the symbiote back because he knew Peter was going to lead him to it, yet we see the recording AFTER he gets it. It’s a cool touch in my opinion.

Re: Norman getting lucky. His sloppy coverup was the entire point. Spidey blurted out “I know you’re Norman Osborn!” last season, which Gobby played off, but internally he was thinking “SH**!” Thus he had to throw the fight, fake an injury, and run home and try to come up with an alibi. Despite throwing the scent off of himself, the person he framed was still connected to him. This is why he couldn’t show his face after getting his spanking new crime boss position, as if Spider-Man so much as saw a pumpkin, it was “off to the Osborn house”; which is why he focused his efforts on killing Spider-Man rather than distracting him. As far as him not being crazy, he wasted military grade technology on gangbangers for the sole purpose of killing one guy…

@mastermitser5693

2 жыл бұрын

The last sentence made me laugh harder than i should have

@fightingmedialounge519

2 жыл бұрын

Wouldn't exactly say it was the point marsh. Even if it was that doesn't make it much better.

@static8813

2 жыл бұрын

@@fightingmedialounge519 man you must not like this show

@fightingmedialounge519

2 жыл бұрын

@@static8813 no, I just don't think me liking it requires me to defend every criticism thrown its way.

@fightingmedialounge519

2 жыл бұрын

@MaestroClumsyLoser except that's not the same thing at all. Not only because defending a show is not literally the same as defending a person's critique, but also because the latter is coveying the idea that one person's enjoyment of a product and another persons issues with it doesn't have to conflict with each other, while the former is trying to argue that any give critique is not valid.

While there were a lot of moments where I felt like your major issues were merely nitpicks for me, I feel like most people would agree with the notion that the cancelation of this show was a major disappointment all in all.

the thing about osborne is that while, yes, it was convenient he encountered chameleon and harry in ways that could benefit him, he took advantage of the situation, rather than the situation just unfolding in his favor. he was the one who hired chameleon on to keep up the charade, he was the one who framed harry, he was the one who made both the villains and the prison for them. he's a guy who, when presented with an opprotunity, abuses it for his own gain, at the expense of others. he was an active character the whole time.

It's still, to me, the best writing for an animated superhero cartoon ever. No other series pulled off character growth and continuous storylines as well as TSSM. I really wish that it could someday be brought back. Obviously it probably won't happen, but the fact that it would be so comparatively easy for Disney and Sony to work out compared to the way they had to sort out the MCU compromises makes me still wish it could.

@shockwavespider3942

2 жыл бұрын

It’s on par with the dc animated universe

@alenasenie6928

2 жыл бұрын

i give you the best spiderman animated cartoon, or even maybe best marvel animated cartoon, but not best superhero cartoon, that one goes for young justice, what they did with season 1, specifically the training simulation for failure, and more important, the episode right after that, i have never seen any series that was able to pull something like that, and what they are doing in season 4, i dont remember, ever, that in any series, they have shown superman crying right after he showed a facade for others to not be afraid, they took the strongest character, and they showed the weakness everyone has, with him retelling his mistakes that we saw playing out during past seasons, how those mistakes where overcome, and how it affects him, and he is not even part of the main cast, in the main cast there is exploration of severe depression, how people in that state cut everyone that might help, because they don't want help, they feel they deserve their misery, there is an exploration of how it starts, how it is developed after that, people seem fine, until they aren't, there has been so much in that series, and something that is impressive, they have managed to make a background thing that was in season 1, i think it was also in 2, and it definitely was in season 3, part of the main plot for season 4 in a flawless manner, that kind of cohesive continuity is not there in most animated shows, and much less in superhero shows usually. I will se the previous seasons again to see if the background thing (a bus, like the pizza planet truck in pixar movies) is also in season 2

@THEAMAZINGSPIDERFAN

2 жыл бұрын

@@shockwavespider3942 no.

@fightingmedialounge519

2 жыл бұрын

I wouldn't go that far alen. Young Justice struggles too much with putting its plot before its characters. Lowart actually goes into greater detail on it in his videos taking about the show. I would say the 90s Batman series still is the best written superhero show.

@kevinboros7427

2 жыл бұрын

@@THEAMAZINGSPIDERFAN You're right, it's better.

Bro, that bit about “let’s see where this goes in the next episo-“ hurt me. Uncool man. I can understand a lot of your problems with Spectacular. Especially the one about Norman’s twist in the final episode. But I can still enjoy the show for what it is. It’s still one of the best adaptations of Spider-Man we’ve ever gotten and I have my fingers crossed for a season 3 revival. Loved that you did one of my childhood favorite series.

One detail I do like about the Chameleon reveal is that in his first episode it was shown the Chameleon had a Norman Osborn disguise. Granted I will admit the fact we only see the Chameleon properly after the first Goblin arc does make it feel a little contrived, like all the clues weren't given to us from the beginning. But, it still happens relatively soon after, making me think the writers did have this scape goat planned, especially since most of the Goblin's actions make more sense for Norman than for Harry. In general I like how both Norman and Harry are pretty much given an equal amount of hints. In the comics both characters have been the Green Goblin at different points, so neither character is automatically more likely then the other.

@alenasenie6928

2 жыл бұрын

In all versions i can remember it is always Norman first and then Harry taking over, so there was always more reason for it to be Norman, but it would have been so easy to say that he hired the chameleon in the first place, i think the whole breaking harry's leg had to be lucky, but it would have reduced it to one lucky event instead of many, the problem is that a character that does not rely on luck is relying on luck too much, i dont remember, but it also would have been good if they didn't to have him say sorry to someone when the goblin steals the glider, then when Harry points out that Norman doesn't say sorry we would have feel dumb to not see it before, because to us is such a normal thing to do.

@R0-83-RT

2 жыл бұрын

@@alenasenie6928 @Alen Asenie I know the Amazing Spider-man 2 has Harry but not Norman as the Goblin. Granted TASM2 came after Spectacular. Regardless one could always infer an artistic liberty that they switched it around a bit. Still having the person be the Goblin from the comic but get it at a different time. I don't think there's anything wrong with this Goblin being a bit of an opportunist observing a situation and taking advantage of it. Though I agree it probably would have been better if Norman just hired the Chameleon in the first place.

Im sorry man i just CANT get over how you haven’t commented on how FIREEEE this shows opening is

I totally forgot Flash got some great development, kinda rare for the bully type. Never thought I'd actually like him as a character later on. Too bad the last season was rushed and couldn't continue, much like Young Justice (at the time). Another show that had seemingly innocuous setups here and there for future arcs for supporting cast members. I really wish Greg Weizmann's shows would stop getting so abruptly canceled/put in hiatus lol

@funnyfunnyvalentine7991

2 жыл бұрын

The Amazing Spider-Man gave him great development too, by the 2nd movie they were really good friends

@radicallaruby

2 жыл бұрын

@@funnyfunnyvalentine7991 ahh okay. Beside the Ramie trilogy, I've only seen the first Amazing Spider-Man film.

@ccelite3782

11 ай бұрын

Better than Ultimate Spider-Man Flash. He wasn't seen for a whole season and then suddenly he's Agent Venom.

Spectacular's fate was very tragic. We had a kind of spiritual successor in Avengers Earths Mighty's Heroes where the creative team wanted to form a connection with Spectacular by respecting his essence and bringing Josh Keaton back to record his lines as Spider-Man. The bad thing is that Disney actually replaced Josh at the last minute and they brought in Drake Fucking Bell. and they also canceled EMH, damn, Marvel can't let their good series shine

The series is supposed to have 65 episodes which will be up to five seasons according to Greg Wiseman the showrunner of this show and Young Justice. The third season is supposed to have introduced the Hobgoblin and Carnage. It will solve some of the issues that you had, but it didn't because of the whole Sony and Disney rights of the show.

@fightingmedialounge519

2 жыл бұрын

I don't know for sure if it would solve some issues without creating others, but it still probably would have been enjoyable watch for him.

Mysterio wasn't some random guy from a boat, he was one of Chameleon's henchmen. I noticed that you tend to miss or skip on details like that.

Channel should be called Nitpicks with lowart

Looks like it's time for the 90s spiderman review

@DoodMcAwesome

2 жыл бұрын

Yes please

@mcurran6505

2 жыл бұрын

I agree.

@Outdub

2 жыл бұрын

@AJ Adams spectacular didn’t cram all of that into 2 seasons. They had planned for 5 and the show got cut because of the Disney Sony fiasco lol, and the 94 version doesn’t even touch spectacular tbh

@Jack91790

2 жыл бұрын

As someone who grew up on 94...its terrible. I love it for nostalgia, but if the guy found this many issues with Spectacular, 94 would be a massacre. And no, Spectacular didn't cram anything...the problem at the end is how slow and patient they were with all their stories, because they thought they had more time, which makes for an anticlimactic sudden ending with many hanging threads. Not their fault, but literally the opposite of cramming anything.

@R0-83-RT

2 жыл бұрын

Guys even if you think 94 has aged a bit, it still is probably the second best Spider-Man Cartoon out there. Especially looking at the competition. The 1964 series while it has done a lot for pop culture, has aged even worse than the 90s series. From what I've seen of Ultimate Spider-man it is pretty bad, with all the cutaway humor and completely ruining the tone. I heard it gets better later but that still seems like a pretty big hill to climb up to get the good parts. Pretty much all the good ideas in it can be seen other Spider-man media such as the original Ultimate Spider-man comic or spiderverse, given me little reason to view The Ultimate Spider-man cartoon specifically. I admittedly have not seen 2017's Marvel's Spider-Man, but from what I have heard it is even worse than Ultimate. Considering I am already not the biggest fan of that series,.....yeah.

The show is crazy good. Its has fantastic characterization of a lot of the main cast. Its certainly hard to balance out the goblin twist between surprise factor and effective foreshadowing

As someone who absolutely adores the character of Kraven, they reaaaaally did him dirty with the animal form, all the way up to the transformation it's was perfect, but then it was ruined

I've watched this show 13 times by now. The show never gets old.

I love this show so much, always liked it when I was younger, rewatched it all earlier this year on Netflix in full. I realised how amazing of a show it really was but I feel like it was only just getting started, I feel season 3 could have been the knockout that takes this show for me from a 9 to like a 10. I wish that it got that 3rd season it's a shame it will probably never happen.

@phoenixero8161

2 жыл бұрын

This sums it up pretty well to be honest. Watching this show in its entirety leaves you feeling like you watched the BEGINNING of a masterpiece which then ends abruptly before it was allowed to really shine. Still, what it achieves in those early stages alone is beyond impressive.

I kinda like the disconnect between Norman's personality and Goblin's; it's a different take from many of the adaptations I've seen where Osborn is simply a victim his other self. Here it's a pretty fun idea in my opinion that a man like him would turn into a psychotic man flying around, killing people and thirsting for power when he is given the chance to do so. He is just having fun in his façade but when spiderman reveals his identity he doesn't really have a reason to; but yeah sure, maybe he should act a bit crazier before being blown to bits (which I assume was all too rushed due to the show's cancellation) Overall I just really enjoy this version of Norman and Goblin, even if it is a bit questionable that they'd be the same person, it still enhances the idea for me

I heavily disagree with the Norman quoting lines from the play as a negative. To me that just puts a new interesting thing to think about because following that logic, that would mean that Norman also listened to and judged Harry while he was performing which is such a Norman thing to do so it must've stuck with him. I don't see that as a problem, in fact I think it's kind of cool that they've added that since it puts a different perspective onto the show

there is one thing that i have to address about this show. At the end of the day it is still a cartoon for kids. that prevents it from leaning into darker stuff like murder and drugs, the fact that we enjoy so many years later is an achievement of itself. to me along side death note and fullmetal alchemist BH will always be my favourite

@fightingmedialounge519

2 жыл бұрын

Ok, that doesn't much to do with what he said.

@Asterx5

2 жыл бұрын

@@fightingmedialounge519 Cartoons tends to remove heavy emotional and moral dilemmas too

@fightingmedialounge519

2 жыл бұрын

@@Asterx5 yeah, depending on the cartoon

@kirbyfazendoummoonwalk9214

2 жыл бұрын

@@Asterx5 Baby Cartoons do it, not Kids Cartoons

Did anyone else notice the carnage tease when we got a quick look at Cletus kasady when he was in the same therapy room with doc oc and electro?

I’ve never disagreed with someone’s takes on the internet as consistently before.

Wow I’m actually surprised at your feelings on this. To me this is the best spider-man cartoon we have ever gotten and even though short I found the arcs and characters to be some of the most interesting development we ever got on screen for these characters in a show format. It is a shame though it got canceled so early it really was getting better and better. Hope one day we can get a continuation for this show!

@joshuafult84

2 жыл бұрын

+Dante is Animonk take of the nostalgia lens. This series came off like a teenage mutant ninja turtles writer wrote it very vanilla series and childish. Not bad but very basic

@ItsSupercat94

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuafult84 nah

@thatsprettyfarfetchd9888

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuafult84 I watched for the first time this past week and truly think it is one of the best superhero shows I've watched, period.

@joshuafult84

2 жыл бұрын

@@thatsprettyfarfetchd9888 that's laughable . It's so corny and childish .

@thatsprettyfarfetchd9888

2 жыл бұрын

@@joshuafult84 Ok

You know when you're a kid and you can't handle your emotions at all; Specially feelings of lost or sadness. I was 12 when this show was cancelled and I mourned HARD. I spent what felt like a whole year after its end feeling really sad about it, signing petitions, going on forums, goggling it's name every day to see if there was any news about it. I can still legitimately feel heartache when I look back on it. I was so upset that when it's replacement came around "Ultimate Spider-Man" I was bitter and refused to watch it for quite a long time. It's sad cause even if the show comes back now it'll probably never be what it was originally intended.

I would love this show to be continued in a comic. I know the rights are murky but I think a lot of people would want to see it

@fum4491

2 жыл бұрын

that would be great... Tho I guess it may have different people working on it and it might end up kind of bad. But if they have a written script already, then sure

I had really hoped that Spectacular Spider-man would continue long enough to see the set-up for Flash joining the military after High School and starting down the path that would lead to him joining S.H.I.E.L.D. and becoming "Agent Venom" one day. Alas, ot was not to be.

@fightingmedialounge519

2 жыл бұрын

Some of that was probably never going to happen do to Sony's relationship with Spiderman when it comes to Spiderman adaptations.

@merlumili

2 жыл бұрын

I was so happy with the little nod to Flash having a symbiote, seeing him become Agent Venom would've been incredible!

I like that green goblin was wearing his costume and still wore a trench coat and fedora over it to try and remain incognito

resurrection of christ will be on the day spectacular spiderman season 3 drops

I want so much for this show to come back. It was one of my absolute favorites back when it was still airing it's so depressing we never got to see a proper ending

I love that John Jameson became Colonel Jupiter and not Man-Wolf. He's more interesting as a dark combination of Jonah's fatherly pride and vendetta against Spider-Man than a classic movie monster villain.

Nice work man, happy new year!

Good Review Lowart. This video was very good. It's quite a tragedy and disappointing that the show was cancelled after only airing for 2 seasons. I think we all feel like this Spider-Man animated series could've been something more, if it wasn't cancelled. You did a good job in this video. I for sure look forward to your future uploads!!

Have you considered reviewing the 90s Spider-Man cartoon? That’s also a classic Spider-Man cartoon that’s almost as beloved as Spectacular Spider-Man was. I’d be interested in seeing your take on it.

@DoodMcAwesome

2 жыл бұрын

I’d actually argue it’s even more beloved than Spectacular. Though I think Spectacular is a better show. Not to take anything away from what made the 90’s series great. Would love to see a follow up video tackling that series, though.

@funnyfunnyvalentine7991

2 жыл бұрын

I also like the 2017 one.

No matter how many incarnations of Spider-Man we get, Spectacular Spider-Man will almost always be my favorite. Only things that can top it are ITSV and the PS4 games, simply because Miles is in them.

@Clyde975

2 жыл бұрын

I know it's your opinion, but I straight up hate that opinion.

@tariqthomas9090

2 жыл бұрын

@@Clyde975 Cool😃

@Kermthefrog

2 жыл бұрын

@@Clyde975 good for you

@Clyde975

2 жыл бұрын

@@Kermthefrog Thank you

@CometStar100

2 жыл бұрын

To me PS4 Spider-Man is my favorite adaptation of the character of all time and I think Yuri is almost perfect as Spider-Man but Spectacular to me is my favorite Spider-Man TV series. I hope one day it will come back cause I think the show had the potential to become of my favorites if it had more seasons but as it stands it's a really good show in my opinion.

I just wanna say that I haven't watched this series in totality. I caught a few episodes here and there as a kid but I never watched it through. So the end of this video was a total hit out of nowhere and really left me feeling unsatisfied with the cancellation. Your series really did have me craving to know what was coming up and happening next. Good job and F to what seems like a good Spidey.

@R0-83-RT

2 жыл бұрын

I was the same way until I recently binged the series in full, due to the spider-man hype. Made me realize I had actually seen a lot more of it than I thought I had, and made me appreciated how everything connected.

The Venom and Molten Man episodes this season are my favorites. They were just spectacular.

GREATEST SHOW OF ALL TIME NO DISCUSSION REQUIRED

Lowart, thank you for uploading this on my birthday

this is my fav Spiderman show tbh. I love the long form story arcs with interwoven character development. I wish more writers used that in the serialized format

It’s crazy I just watched this show and you’re doing a review on it, incredible

Holy crap man. I already loved your content because I discovered your FMA videos, but now I am finding you talking about my entire childhood. Going from gems like Mario & Luigi Superstar Saga to this Masterpiece?! I'm sorry I didn't subscribe sooner.

I just watched the first part a few hours ago, luckyy

@jbmsonicxd

2 жыл бұрын

Same

How is the criticism about Goblin seemingly “flipping a switch” when he takes the mask off even brought up when that’s never been a point of contention for Spider Man 1? Not to mention that we don’t know the extent of Chameleon’s time as Norman.

Kinda nice there's a Spider-Man series where Gwen Stacey lives through it despite the fact that she only lived because the series was cancelled lol

I would argue it's perfectly fine for Gwen to have been the damsel in distress. She was out of her league by a long shot when she died. Her ressurection was one of the biggest slaps in the face Marvel's ever made, to the core audience who cares about her as a character and particularly her very definable influence on Peter. She wasn't helpless in their relationship - but these are super powered individuals, her boyfriend was a super powered individual and whatever skill sets she had (as far as I know lisenced pilot was never one of them) weren't going to match up in a combat situation. She works better as a character if you honor who she is. Who she was written to be. Full on morale support. Mary Jane doesn't even always have that. It's fine to argue times have changed, but as of Sins Past; no. You don't get to change the character's backstory. You can't just make Gwen Stacy who you want her to be, because you regret what happened. I do think MJ is a little too much fanservice; Gwen suited Pete best as an actual wife (he is very much like a cop or a soldier in that it IS a calling. Not just a job) and Felicia appeals to the darker side of him, but if those two were EVER given a decent shot regardless of her backstory and his neurotic insecurity they could make a decent go of it. I've got nothing against MJ personally, but One More Day can bite every part of me. So if they're just going to string the audience along in the will they won't they - don't. They had the shot, and MJ LET him throw it away. To save a woman who's realisitcally dead in five years at best anyway. Who had X teen number of ways in high science capability and literal magic to be saved outside of a literal devil's bargain. So go ahead, and try with Silk. Who despite the weirdness of the draw thing, also never really got a fair shot. She can be her own hero in due time, but that doesn't mean she had to break up with Pete. "Strong" does not have to mean "independant" especially when that more reads to the audience, you're not good enough for me. Try honestly, with Spider Gwen since we can't put that back in the box, and she's honestly not decided on Miles yet. Try with Felicia, and have it be the way to show DC how you really do Batman seduces Catwoman into being "tamed." (Not entirely; but enough to keep and that should be good enough for both - it's not that hard. It's just compromise on both ends) Really he's got several paths they could put him down that would be mature enough to show growth as a character past the Peter My Name IS NOT Pan. [it'd be kinda funny to me if he somehow ended up with kids from all four...It'd be Fantastic! Then it'd really be into the spiderverse] I'll also say, Kraven works better as a human character. Not some mutated lion hybrid a la Ninja Turtles. The compelling aspect of him and his arcs is always his primal mindset at jarring odds when faced with Peter's abilities, compared to what his vaunted physical prowess as a Hunter can put out. He's actually a much more interesting villain when he plays the Lex to Pete's Clark. (Like a true hunter would have to, really. Considering what most animals people hunt can do to a human body) * Also, Pete doesn't have problems with the ladies. He has so many he only has problems either choosing, or keeping them. (Not bad for a science geek, really * That's one way to get more girls into STEM : ) )

Sad thing is, I had this gut feeling they were setting up a flash venom anti-hero arc. The symbiote got away, flash has a severe leg injury and we know he idolises spiderman and sometimes even follows in his footsteps. Wouldve loved to see this show tackle that

Because of DC and it's Multiverse shenanigans with Crisis, when ever I watch a DC or Marvel, or any media in general, I consider it it's own world. they are all connected, especially since its the same character, just a different person (Actor), characters may differ, even full one stories can be rewritten, I just go with it. I was prepared to take on Harry as the Goblin, even though in other medias (I'm more of a comic guy, screw you I love Shocker) it's Norman, Just like Ethan Bennett becoming Clayface, I was ready for a Harry Osborne being a Goblin. Then it went to Norman, which kinda made me sad, but hey, maybe in another universe.

If y'all don't mind reading, you should check out the fanfic "Fighting Crime, Spinning Webs", by thebandragoness on AO3. It's a completed attempt at continuing the story and the writing is pretty neat from what I've read.

The show pulls a lot of stuff from the comics. if you know the comics you can see stuff being set up that never got to paid off, like Miles Warren and Hobgoblin.

I honestly think people like because he's Spider-Man, Nostalgia, and the intro. Other than that, it was as good as young justice. Basically a teen drama

@boobah5643

2 жыл бұрын

_Young Justice_ had a Spidey knock-off villain who was voiced by the same dude that voiced Spider-Man in this series. Not that he had more than three or four lines, but still.

Well, i was rewatching and what do you know, in chapter 8, when doc octopus starts, there is small scene that shows that Norman is the green goblin, no theories needed, when the experiment starts is the goblin in costume that uses a safety key to start the experiment, when Norman arrives the key is not in the machine, so, the goblin took it, since no one can use it to get to the doctor, then Norman uses the key to release the safety mechanism allowing the door to be open, that episode puts heavy hints to Harry, but it clearly shows that is Norman, because, if it wasn't an unique key then other scientists would have one, he also does this immediately, and, more important, why use the costume when no one is there? he has access to the recordings, so he can just delete them, or disconnect the system, but it was to have proof for "the big man" that he was not the goblin, that is a blink it and you miss it moment, but there was direct evidence in that episode. I will edit to add if i see another interesting thing. Well, the Chameleon was also hinted, not that obvious, but it was not too much of a jump, the comments of the guard "didn't expected to see you BACK tonight, and trough the front door no less", so, it was at a time he usually is not there, and by an entrance he rarely, if ever, uses, that combined with moving files to a removable drive it was espionage, and the only one to do it in that manner is the chameleon, as i said, hinted, but not in a definitive manner.

Happy New Year, Lowart. I'm just minding my own business enjoying TV with the family and eventually playing Spyro 3 on PS1 for the 30th time. :D

This was a great discussion video and I’m glad I watch this Spider-Man show

honestly these reviews had so much nit picking I don't understand how it could make you like the series less, that just makes me like it more since there really wasn't any big issues.

I watched it somewhat when it came out, but I really consumed it like 4 days ago. Finished it after No Way Home. I think it's one of the best Spiderman material out there I've consumed, probably not beating Spiderverse tho but maybe a strong second. Feels incredibly genuine and what Spiderman should be about. I haven't read any of the comics, so I have no bias on what's "comic accurate". And I'm incredibly sad about how it probably never get a chance to be finished properly. Also, I think the last episode is really rushed tbh, probably because of that.

@HSuper_Lee

2 жыл бұрын

As a massive comic fan I'm just going to tell you right now that comic accuracy is massively overrated. The comics have had their fair share of bad writers over time, and a lot of the comics aren't really even worth adapting, or are just overly convoluted. I say this as someone that loves the comics, but every new adaptation has the opportunity to do better than the comics that inspired it did, and for that reason comic accuracy isn't all that important.

I love how this show created a stable of villains and then let them exist in the world in the second season. RIP. also, I always took the Norman framing Harry as intentional rather than coincidental. I figured Harry had passed out before, which is why he knew to fake the limp while running away (maybe I just love the line, "Do you know how easy it is to fake a limp?")

A great review and nice to get your thoughts on the show. On how much Flash is a chad. I hope to see further reviews like these! (A small suggestion is Transformers Animated since you should give it a chance. It may have robots, but they are as human as anyone else. It was one of the best show that the Derrick J Wyatt had worked on. Rest his soul.)

This recently got put on netflix in the netherlands and I rewatched the SHIT out of it

You forgot to mention how they lead us to think that MJ was Black cat, there’s a few details really, her voice, eyes, and the way she acts around spidey, it gives the watcher the idea MJ is Black cat, except we don’t know that she isn’t

I actually kinda like some of the stuff being by pure chance with this goblin because it shows how well the goblin works and acts in the moment and how erratic and unpredictable he usually is like in the comics, what makes the goblin such a terrifying villain is that he doesn't plan, gamble and never has too much to lose and much like Spider-Man before his growth, which greatly hurt and affected others, he reacts more than he does act. The Spider-Man Goblin parallel is rarely brought up but I feel like that's what makes him so good.

I really want them to come back and finish this series.

Yes, Disney/Sony needs to fund the return of this series ASAP

@parkerboy795

2 жыл бұрын

If it ends up on Disney Plus within the next few years, there might be a chance.

Would be really cool to see you do this for Iron-Man Armored Adventures. I remember loving it when I first saw it!

I'm gonna agree with many of the other comments here, and say that you've been too harsh with this series. Many of the issues you have just seem like nitpicks that have been blown up to seem like they matter more than they do. But my main problem is how you act like the lengthy fight scenes are a bad thing, *in an ACTION series.* Action can be just as important as writing quality in stories like this, and the fact that it mostly balances out good writing with some of the most awesome spidey action I've ever seen is a feat all on its own, and something very few series can claim to do! The last Venom episode in this season is my favorite episode in the series because it's the one that does this best. It has both compelling writing with a battle between former friends turned bitter enemies, Flash standing up for spiderman, the fact that if his mask is removed it's all over, all that, combined with a well animated and extremely hype battle between Venom and Spiderman! I apologize if this comment comes off as hostile, I just had a lot of issues with how you choose to criticize this series. But each to their own

I feel like if the show got a season three it would have been great. As after the end of the Green Goblin, it would Peter Parker continues to focus on things that are close to him, like his relationship with Gwen Stacy, and failed friendship with Harry Osborn, and his argument with Black Cat for leaving her father, Walter Hardy in prison, and him team up with other heroes to fight off new and old enemies. The invention of the hobgoblin, scorpion, carnage and the return of Green Goblin and what all Normie is been doing all season. And alas, we never got a chance to see any of that which is a shame as I enjoyed the show, the characters and to be honestly every show after this got progressively worse. Ultimate Spider-Man basically had the tonal consistency of a slapstick comedy trying to pretend it was a serialise epic and Marvel Spider-Man is so boring I could barely get past the first five episodes. But what I can tell for others it is a cluster fuck of of terrible ideas and constant corporate mandate to shove relevant Spider-Man characters in regardless of development or the necessary for them to be in it. So yeah I do you think we lost a Cole before became a diamond.

Norman Osborne is a very calculated, meticulous person. You can assume with good reason that he'd always stay in character as the green goblin, even when presumably alone, just because someone might still be listening in. The charade is more like character acting than it's a plothole to me. Besides, he's floating in plain sight above the penitentiary. Even if in the air, it's not as if he's in private. Better to have said those lines and I guess, practiced your Harry, than to be caught out with no alibi.

The think is: i love this Show. I watched it as a kid and it pretty much introduced me to Spider-Man. So i can‘t be rational on the show, just top much nostalgia. Now as a grown up i can clearly See its flaws like: more fighting than Character devellopment and some Villains becoming evil way too fast. But i can also appreciate the stuff that it does right, like doing some own twists to classic Spider-Man plots. I just love it. I can see it‘s flaws sure but, … i just can‘t help it.

This is an excellent review of the Spectacular Spiderman series. It was not long and drawn out while analyzing character arcs. I started with the sixties show and found this one to be worth watching.

a shame this never got an ending but I am happy that if nothing else we got two really interesting videos from you because of it

@isauldron4337

Жыл бұрын

Greg weisman never writes to end though

Clicked thinking this was about the old Fox Kids Spider-Man. Now, that is a show worth talking about.

Its not a masterpiece like a liat of people say, but whenever there was something I didnt like, it gave me a lot that a DID like, and in my opinion, it was truly great.

Because this is the perfect adaptation of Spider-Man!

Completely skipping over Norman breaking his own's son leg really highlighted my issue with your videos. Your critiques are shallow as they explicitly take certain things and make them larger than they are while minimizing more important plot points. The overcritiques mean you skip interesting plot points to point out something stupid like The Chameleon (Man who has legitimately dressed up as Spider-Man) dressing up as Norman is so hard to fathom. At a certain point, the video becomes less of a valid critique and much more of a deep analysis shaded by your subjective desires of how you want the show to be. If you're doing an objective analysis, like we're led to believe, judge objectively.

@hassankhaliq3743

2 жыл бұрын

stop being a fanboy

@GabrielSurer

2 жыл бұрын

@@hassankhaliq3743 buddy, he just said something he didn't like about the video

@jefferyandbob3137

2 жыл бұрын

@@hassankhaliq3743 Is he wrong though? I feel like the uploader focused more on nitpicking and looking a tad too deep into things (wether positively or negatively in the show's favor) than huge plot points.

@chardrive

2 жыл бұрын

definitely cinemasins tier analysis

@diehard7517

2 жыл бұрын

He didn't skip on Norman breaking Harry's leg. And even if he did, it would be a really minor mistake since he pointed out the main thing-Norman framed his son. And it wasn't the idea that Chameleon dressed up as Osborn that confused him, but the fact that he and Goblin happened to be in the right place in the right time. Before accusing him of skipping on details you should try to be more attentive yourself. It's true that Lowart tends to focus on certain things while missing or ignoring other stuff, but it's unfair to call his critics shallow because of that. If anything, i think they are a bit too thorough. And has he actually ever claimed that his videos are "objective" criticisms?

As a kid I only had season 1 on DVD, remember DVD I feel old, point being its nice to be able to see season 2 finally

I respectfully disagree. I think it is great. I agree with a lot of your points especially about the season 1 Eddie becoming venom. But I also disagree with some stuff. I don’t want to make this comment any longer than it already is but I just wanted to say the way you explain what you think made all your points make sense. Even though I disagree on some things I can totally understand your point of view. Great video!

Happy new year

@Lowart

2 жыл бұрын

Happy new year!

I don't think doc was pretending to be nice. I'm pretty sure the tentacles are controlling him

@GamerSlyRatchet1

2 жыл бұрын

No they’re not. Ock literally brags about pretending to stay at Ravencroft safe until his breakout. Plus he’s had violent thoughts and megalomania even before the accident.

@TheAzulmagia

2 жыл бұрын

You're thinking of Spider-Man 2. Octavius is fully in control of his own actions in this series.

@Marsh388

2 жыл бұрын

@@GamerSlyRatchet1 yeah on top of that, the Master Planner was still doing his thing while Ock was in Ravencroft. The arms weren’t making nightly trips, they were only sent out after the computers that were stolen were assembled. Otto Octavius is a dangerous man even without his tentacles.

A recommendation for another "Complete Review": X-men Evolution. That animation series had three seasons and as Spectacular Spiderman, the mutant show was canceled but at least the final episode has a finality sense.

Young Justice first 2 seasons are a masterpiece and when it finally got the S3, it was a lil disappointing. Maybe it's aight this show doesn't get S3 or maybe it's not ? (Schrodinger's Cat)

Now that things between Marvel and Sony have been sorta "fixed" and Spider-man technically isn't floating on a limbo anymore, do you think that this series could ever return? Or at least, have a "spiritual continuation" like a time-skip sequel? Personally I think there's always a slight possibility of it happening, because time has proven that if the fans are loud enough, they can make the creators rethink their choices and keep going with the work they once abandoned.

I think the finale was amazing. All the plot twists (and leg twists) I liked it more than the venom story. Agree to disagree

Flash really is a great character both here and especially in the comics where he goes onto become the only other host of the Venom symbiote to rival Eddie in popularity.

I really enjoyed the video and I’m now super interested in this series. Where did you watch it? I’ve found it online but I’d rather find a way to stream it legally

i really hope that disney and marvel can talk to the crerators and see what can be done about it returning and finnaly having a real ending

maaan its a shame it didnt continue there were big plans for this series!

GREAT VID.😺

in the current-ish spider man animated series, last 15 years, this one is the best, because it uses the character as it is supposed to be, spiderman helps, but it affects negatively Peter's life, he is sacrificing his own personal life, in other versions we don't see that, ultimate spiderman had some very good things, for the other versions of spiderman, but the main one gets everything, that is not what he is supposed to be, because spiderman is realistic, to gain lead in one area of your life you usually have to sacrifice another, more free time, less money for example, or bigger risks, sometimes there is a temporary sacrifice, the thing is, one can't have it all, and that is why spiderman is a character that everyone loves, everyone can put themselves in that position. Plus, the unique animation is something else, a aesthetic is extremely important, if you can see a shot without any of the main characters and recognize where is it from, then you have a series that has the unique factor going for it, the sound design is also very good, when you put it all together, this is better because it is good and also irreplaceable, every other series that is a copy paste (the new ben 10, teen titans go, etc) are series that you can see one shot and know it's part of a bundle that has nothing unique about them, it's not worth watching since it is going to be the same with different characters. There is nothing like this series, and there won't be anything like it, that is why people keep this series in their mind, i will love to see a continuation, and seeing that the clone wars got a season 7 and that spiderverse has put people in the mindset of multiple universes for this kind of series we now have the bases to have multiple shows about the same character at the same time, so they can have the series tied to the cinematic universe and still have this one, then they can have specials if they want to and combine them, they should know by now that the viewerbase is big enough for having multiple versions of spiderman, every one with their own story. BTW, i would love one in this style for spiderwen.

Normas snappes his son's leg. Me: woah

My issue with the "cancelation" excuse to stop telling a great story is. . . . it never got a comic series to continue the story. We have huge communities even here on youtube for the series. People of influence like the Ink Tank who have the power to contact the writers of multiple other animated series onto podcasts and things like that. Animators who have gone as far as to animate an intro to what season 3 was going to be. . . and despite all that power and talent that was done all for free and for the sake of artistic value, none of that was put into place to try and get an official comic going. That is what I find the most dissapointing, how us the community just. . . . didn't try hard enough.

@sergiomanzanares6817

2 жыл бұрын

Maybe the legality of it extends to writing a comic series. Idk maybe it doesn’t but if Sony and Marvel both aren’t allowed to continue the show legally then maybe the comic would’ve been the perfect way to at least do a S3 ending

@brucebanana4486

2 жыл бұрын

Greg Wiseman the showrunner is doing Young Justice right now and he is busy. Even then he said the license is complicated with Sony and Disney when it comes to this show. Plus, he is far more interested in revving Gargoyles.

@Hadeks_Marow

2 жыл бұрын

@@sergiomanzanares6817 It would fall under fair-use tho if it's free, as such acts ARE considered transformative in nature so that's a mute point.

@Hadeks_Marow

2 жыл бұрын

@@brucebanana4486 I didn't mean HE make the comic, rather just give someone else the storyline scraps for THEM to make it, like, just a fan or whatever. That's what happened to Ben 10 5YL.

@sergiomanzanares6817

2 жыл бұрын

@@Hadeks_Marow I’m gonna be honest with you chief I trust no fan to make that comic at all

Between this and young justice, you've covered some of Greg Weisman's most notable works. I would be interested to hear your opinion's on Gargoyles. While I think you'll find it similar to teen titans quality as well as his previously mentioned works being good but not something that can be called great (with great being stuff like Fullmetal and Avatar.) I think it would be an interesting video at least through the lens of covering his earlier work even looking at how his works have evolved since then.

The coincidences I think work in showing the hypocrisy of Norman Osborn. His whole philosophy is that his cutthroat mentality is what made him a self made millionaire. Keep in mind the phrase “self made” because at every turn we see how Norman has been successful off of the work of others. He took credit for the flight suite, abused Ottos intellect to create more villains, took brides from Tombstone and now his success as the green goblin all came from coincidences that all happened to suite him. Nothing about Norman is self made everything was either stolen, handed out to him or just a coincidence and it is why he is a perfect arch-nemesis to Peter. Peter worked hard to get to where he is by the end of season 2 and even then he still didn’t win where as Norman continues to succeed as long as someone suffered.

@parkerboy795

2 жыл бұрын

Basically his whole philosophy of not apologizing is him not taking responsibility. Which is especially highlighted by the reveal he was the Goblin and framed Harry.

As much as i loe this show i have one problem with it. my problem is green goblin.. the reason for this is the fact that he dosnt feel like norman he feels to much like harry.. in one peisode he was even qouting a play harry was in.. and the joking side of goblin seems to far off from norman.. so my whole point is "goblin feels to much like harry and it dosnt fit being norman"

Good analysis, but I do think some of these criticisms do overlook some more obvious explanations. Norman quoting Midsummer isn’t that big of a stretch, given that He would know Harry is in it, and it’s one of the most popular plays to ever have been written. Also, most of the quotes are direct references to what characters are going through. Now, is it super “realistic” for a character to monologue to themselves? No. But it’s also a very common trope in fiction, dating baking to old Billy Shakes himself, and especially comic books. One of those cases that it’s important to remember that not realistic doesn’t equal bad. Theatricality fits with the Goblin. In terms of Gobby’s personality, for this show they definitely ignored early comics version of Norman, where Norman and Gobby were essentially two separate personalities, and took his characterization once he returned from the dead in the 90s. Where Norman was fully aware of everything he was doing, and wasn’t fighting with his Goblin personality. He was just a dick.

The Mysterio episode was on season 2? I was watching season 1 on Netflix and the same episode you used as background footage for the Mysterio fight was on season 1 did Netflix combine both seasons or did they just refuse to put both

Love the vids I remember watching this show when I was like 6 and loving it

@jamesgottlieb4677

2 жыл бұрын

When I was 6 I bought the green goblin action figure and chewed off the whole bat glider 😂

@potatoslayer7352

2 жыл бұрын

@@jamesgottlieb4677 I got a Spider-Man one and just ran around with it all day