Is the new 7.3L V8 Godzilla 2020 Ford Super Duty Tremor good?
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@Pickuptrucktalk4 жыл бұрын
Surprised myself and wrote nearly 2k words on the truck as well. Find it below. Also, I have more videos with a commercial angle with a dump truck and repairability chat with Dave Ives, one of Ford's chief engineers and a much longer off-road video. I'm traveling and expect those videos to come out next week. pickuptrucktalk.com/2020/01/first-drive-2020-ford-super-duty-godzilla-tremor-and-more/
@Mr.Beastforpresident
4 жыл бұрын
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk What’s the best possible advertised MPG ( GAS ) version in 2wd? In-other-words what rear gear ratio would it have, and is that rear gear offered in the SRW F350? And what’s the payload difference between the F250 & F350? Also what’s the differences in the 250 & 350? Literally just a bigger axle and leaf springs OR wider rims, thicker frame, beefier trans, and trans cooler, stronger crankshaft, bigger radiator, hardened valve seats etc?
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Good questions. 1. Since these are HD trucks, there is no advertised MPG. The EPA doesn't rate these trucks for fuel economy and Ford doesn't publish a number. My guess, again a guess, would be high teens with a 6.2L V8, 10-speed auto and 3.73 rear axle ratio. It would likely be pretty similar to a 7.3L V8, 10-speed auto and 3.55 rear axle ratio (note the 6.2L V8 doesn't come with a 3.55 rear axle). Both of those trucks would be SRW, regular cab, 2wd F_350. 2. Payload differences on 250 vs 350 - there is a massive chart here (media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/product/2020/f-series-super-duty/2020-Super-Duty-Tech-Specs.pdf) see pages 5-6 listing all the payload differences. It is so dependent on how you configure the truck and impossible to have a simple answer. 3. Engineering difference - frames are the same, engines are the same, radiator is the same. It is really about the rear axle, stronger springs to handle the additional load. I'm sure there could be a driveshaft and U-joint difference as well and I'd need to follow up with Ford on that. But, typically, the way you add additional towing and payload to a truck is through the springs and rear axle. Those are the main differences between the F-350 and F-250. The trucks are pretty much identical everywhere else. Thanks for watching!
@Mr.Beastforpresident
4 жыл бұрын
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk Thanks! Would you know all if any of the mechanical & suspension updates/upgrades on the new Ford F-150 5.0 besides the 10-speed trans? Tim, if you had to pick a 1/2 ton 2wd Truck with a Naturally Aspirated motor that rode the smoothest and got the best HWY MPG’s 20+ while still having at least a 1,800 pound payload what would you choose? Ford 5.0 with the smallest/lowest rear gear ratio Tundra with a V6- if they still offer a V-6 Chevy Silverado 4.3 Dodge Ram with the 3.6 Ford F-150 with a 3.7 V6 Naturally Aspirated Chevy Silverado 5.3 with the smallest/lowest rear gear ratio Chevys Turbo 4 Cylinder Silverado seems tempting and fun but I wonder what’s the advantages over the 4.3? Faster? Also have you ever driven the F-150 2.7 Ecoboost? Reliability seems sketchy from what I’ve seen in the past unless they’ve done some updates/upgrades
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Ok. Let's see. 1. There is a new F-150 coming out later this year. No details yet. However, there should be ZERO differences between the suspension with different engines. They simply swap in a different engine on the assembly line. 2. The 4.3L V6 Chevy, 3.3L V6 Ford are really for work truck customers. In fact, the Chevy you can't get in any trim besides work truck and I was recently at a Ford dealer who told me he doesn't even bother ordering the 3.3L V6 because nobody is buying it. They are buying the 2.7L turbo 6 instead. 3. The Sierra and Ram trucks ride the smoothest. They also come in non-turbo and the MPG differences are within 1 MPG of each other. Those are EPA numbers and in real-world driving, I bet there is really about zero difference. It seems like you don't want a turbo, but you want good HWY MPG and a fun to drive truck. Sorry, you can't do it. The small displacement turbo engines are faster, more fun to drive and return better fuel economy than a naturally aspirated engine. That's why everyone is building them. Hope that helps.
@icare7151
4 жыл бұрын
My 1997 7.3l PowerStroke E450 15 mpg @ 14000lbs @ 55mph! Ford should have built SuperDuty & E350/450 Hybrid & Full electric instead of gas guzzler 7.3l. In 2012 Ford dropped Escape Hybrid, Lexus/Toyota took full advantage. Ford Repeat in SuperDuty market, now 10+yrs behind. So while Fords new 7.3l @ 3-8mpg loaded, competition will be waving passing by the 7.3l owners stopped refueling, in their new fuel efficient HD Hybrid, Full Electric or fuel cell HD Trucks.
@tuffr24 жыл бұрын
I drove the 2020 Superduty and it did drive better than my 2017 Superduty. I could notice the improvement.
@bradenchalmers58873 жыл бұрын
Just ordered my 2022 F250 Lariat Tremor/7.3 V8. Can’t wait.
@ryanmartinage4 жыл бұрын
Its a big block pushrod v8. It's not going to win any fuel economy awards. It will work however for hundreds of thousands of miles with regular maintenance and extra fuel cost. It is meant to work.
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@kevinashleylewis
4 жыл бұрын
It's actually still a small block. 9.65 deck height and I think a 4 something bore spacing.
@ryansheard8092
4 жыл бұрын
So what does that mean? 12MPG? 14?
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Sheard I’m thinking 14-16 based on drivers style and conditions unloaded. Single digits loaded.
@ryansheard8092
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk If I can get 14 to 16 on the tremor I will buy that in a heartbeat.
@MrVegaslive4 жыл бұрын
Ordered w/o trailer assist. Had to fix my pedal commander somewhere and where the knob would have been is the best spot. Saved 1600 and used that towards loading ramps and led lights instead. I'll just have to use my own judgment and skills to turn the wheel. Just like I've been doing for the past 30 years...
@mac763113 жыл бұрын
6.9 mpg while towing that 9 thousand pounds is not bad at all
@bobvincent48414 жыл бұрын
I like how it sounds, i like the 10 speed, i like how it looks, but damn... that's cringeworthy when it nearly flips in the twisty ditch! My Power Wagon could go through that with none of the craziness. The front of the Ford is too rigid. I just don't see it ever STUFFING 37 inch tires all the way up in the wells like my Wagon can. If anyone in Nebraska, Wyoming, or Colorado has a Tremor and wants to go hit some trails, crawling and rock wheeling, leave me a comment. The Tremor intrigues me, and I would love to go wheeling together to compare the Tremor capabilities with my 16 PW.
@takayama16384 жыл бұрын
Ok, I always skip ads, but dagnabbed if that Zebra shoe might be just what I need! Bad back, arms, arthritis, pain, and I always remove shoes before coming inside (ewww, just think of where you’ve been!). Ok, back to trucks... 7.3 gasoline, that’s what I’m interested in. Ok, we get cameras, get on with that 7.3!
@chrisstabile26773 жыл бұрын
Got to love all the Chevy truck adds in between...Good review nontheless.
@Pickuptrucktalk
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 Sorry, I don't control the ads.
@joaquinsolis70713 жыл бұрын
We’ll buff out those scratches 😂
@cskipper654 жыл бұрын
It would be nice if manufacturers would stop actimg like f250 owners really want to rock crawl enough to set up a suspension for it and just give us a tire pressure control to drive on a ranch or on a dirt road to soften the ride. No need for the rest of this.
@nightfall224 жыл бұрын
This was a fantastic easy watch. I loved seeing the tremor towing the black series hq19. THAT is the exact setup I’m going for. Was looking at the hq15’s but the 19 will tow better. I had a huge grin watching that footage. Very informative brother. The 7.3 is the way to go (at least for me)
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Glad you enjoyed the video!
@portersorensen88144 жыл бұрын
Well the tremor is better at competing with the power wagon than the ram runner and rebel were at competing with the raptor
@icare71514 жыл бұрын
Ford- with 7.3l there is engine bay room for two high hp hybrid assist motors, in theory could improve fuel economy by 35%
@Richard-ky8dw3 жыл бұрын
BUILT FORD TOUGH!!!
@jameshoward84912 жыл бұрын
I got a little confused . So is the tremor lower or highier ? Than the regular 250
@shawnriddle30184 жыл бұрын
A power wagon is NOT a power wagon with a diesel. power wagon has never been available in diesel since 1946. There is no substitute for the original 4x4 the combat proven power wagon. The truck of trucks.
@Typing.._3 жыл бұрын
Junkyard 7.3 donated to my P71 Vic
@Pickuptrucktalk
3 жыл бұрын
Beast!
@Typing.._
3 жыл бұрын
I only dream 🙏🏼 🤥
@Typing.._
3 жыл бұрын
I have the car but no GoDZiLLa
@danstennis18174 жыл бұрын
Great video! Very informative and I like the footage.
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
@cobeytriche48084 жыл бұрын
Ford needs to bring back the MANUAL SHIFT ON THE FLOOR FOUR WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM. Not everyone like the electric shift on the fly they only offering now for the 2020 models.
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Hmm... really? I have owned and driven both. I'll take the turn the dial versus reaching over and pulling the lever. Faster, safer (keep both eyes on the road) and just simply more convenient plus you get the floor space back.
@cobeytriche4808
4 жыл бұрын
I have manual shift in all 3 of my super duty's and have friends with the electric shift they are always having trouble with their four wheel drive systems not engaging and not wanting to disengage once its in four wheel drive. Manual shift has not once every gave me any issues putting in or taking out of four wheel drive. A good friend of mine owns a mechanic shop and he sees anywhere from 5-10 trucks a month with electric shift four wheel drive problems.
@rockie307
4 жыл бұрын
@@cobeytriche4808 I've seen the opposite the electric shift has been more reliable for me and people I know. I've had a few floor shifters with trouble no electrics yet.
@soundmandave21
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk Convenient, yes. Reliable? Not compared to a lever. I will take a shift on the floor 4x4 system over an electronic gizmo EVERY time...
@soundmandave21
4 жыл бұрын
@@rockie307 How does a floor lever fail? I don't know what the failure mode would be. I have had electronics fail, and those typically require a shop to fix...
@scarroll6254 жыл бұрын
Love your videos. I wish they would’ve kept that same height in 2020. If egress and ingress is a problem, then get a Ranger!
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@NissanPodcast4 жыл бұрын
Seems like Nissan may not like Ford calling something Godzilla hahaha... great video Tim
@Sackmatters
4 жыл бұрын
Nissan Nation Podcast they have every right to not like it.
@aaron5222
4 жыл бұрын
You would think as Americans we would have come up with something a little more.... american. Like Big Foot. I mean it leaves one large carbon footprint hah.
@aaron5222
4 жыл бұрын
@@mewrongway no logic
@aaron5222
4 жыл бұрын
@@mewrongway I like it.
@roninkraut6873
4 жыл бұрын
Thunderjet
@doctube20204 жыл бұрын
Good Morning! ☕
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Morning to you as well!
@sandman62984 жыл бұрын
I still prefer the tremor in KR trim,,
@ziggy1494 жыл бұрын
20:15 Poor Don - he apparently had a long day too.
@zapcity89924 жыл бұрын
A rough riding 1-ton? Come on timster just go get a Honda Ridgeline already LOL
@scarroll625
4 жыл бұрын
Lol the Ridgeline is basically an Odyssey with a half-assed “bed”.
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
😂 true that.
@zapcity8992
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk you know you're looking forward to a Ridgeline dually!
@ledebuhr14 жыл бұрын
Tim, how does the BLIS work with a trailer? How does the radar signal go around the front corner of the trailer to "see" down the side of the trailer? many trailers are wider than the truck is .
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
I think it comes down to programming the trailer into the system. The BLIS uses this information to determine the blind spot radius, then shoots out radar appropriately to determine blind spots. The radar shoots out pretty wide.
@tardogavin67353 жыл бұрын
Why does your title say new 7.3 when the red truck has 6.7 L Power Stroke on the door? at 26:09. Weak...
@mixflip3 жыл бұрын
I keep hearing about issues with the 10 speed transmission. Any thoughts?
@Pickuptrucktalk
3 жыл бұрын
I've heard some of these issues. I just bought a '21 F-150 with a 10-speed to drive around this year and I'll update if I come across anything.
@gomezone1461
3 жыл бұрын
My 17 f150 was in the shop for 3 months for the transmission..I hear the 10 speeds are different on the f250...ready to do a trade
@eatdafat7101
3 жыл бұрын
My buddies 19 f150 was lemoned out due to the transmission. He had the 5.0 with the 10 speed. Ford bought it back after some fighting and he picked up a 20 f250 since he liked the 19 f250 I have.
@sheepdog819
3 жыл бұрын
They are great transmissions. You just need to service it more often than the recommended manufacturer schedule. 40k mile services is what I suggest.
@marcgerardo235
3 жыл бұрын
10 speeds are trash. Being a joint venture between gm and Ford I have it in my 21 tahoe z71. Things been in the shop 2x in the last month for overheating. Bought it new still hasn't been hooked up to a trailer and barely have 4k on it. Just getting the trips to the dealer doc'd for lemon law. Would avoid at all costs for an almost 70k vehicle
@billdennis29934 жыл бұрын
Thx for videos and discussion PTPSUV Talk HM2CW on automated trailer backing. I'm old school and enjoy the planning and challenge of backing and maneuvering various vehicles with trlrs for more that 50yrs including my 40' goose neck 5th wheel but it's a perishable skill. My ? is to Ford do you cover the consequential damages when their truck knowingly and willfully backs over objects it's AI isn't programmed or capable of avoiding and the driver doesn't have the skill set to avoid. I'll keep my hands&feet on controls and eyes on the road and AI in my smart phone where it belongs not at the controls of my truck.YMMV
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
I hear you. I prefer backing up as well, however, this is pretty slick. And no, Ford isn’t covering any damages. You are still in control. Thanks for watching!
@luisreviews6412
4 жыл бұрын
Gimmick add on to please the Carolla drivers buying a truck.
@ziggy149
4 жыл бұрын
Geezus - you guys need to lighten up. If something aids in the maneuvering of a vehicle or that vehicle with trailer in tow, it doesn't directly effect the size of your dangler.
@coreythefam64554 жыл бұрын
I know if I bought a new truck which I would never do take it off roading in the mud
@diegoranchinc53894 жыл бұрын
I run a non-profit 501(c)3 equine assisted therapy program for kids and adults with either a mental, emotional or physical disability learning the love of horses and healing through them. We are healing and saving lives everyday with our Diego Ranch Inc. program in Arkansas. People are always asking us for help and now I am reaching out to you for help. For us to better serve everyone we are in need of another truck to pull our Diego Ranch trailer that hauls all our saddles and helmets for the kids when we go to schools, churches and hospitals. Our other truck that hauls our therapy horses is a 2017 F250. I know this is a big item but with our amazing program of over 500 clients and serving over 3500 people in 2019, I thought you might be able to help pull some strings...... We have a website and Facebook page if you would like to check us out at Diego Ranch Inc. Hope to hear back from you
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Wish I could help. Good luck!
@diegoranchinc5389
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk Thanks for replying back.
@jimnielsen40764 жыл бұрын
Did the F-250 Tremor have a better ride on the hwy than the F-350 Tremor?
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Frankly, I don’t know. I didn’t focus on on road driving differences between the two.
@danielbuchanan53274 жыл бұрын
Now how come I can’t spec a Tremor with a sunroof on Ford’s website?
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
No idea. That’s strange. Ford usually allows you to spec about everything.
@ziggy149
4 жыл бұрын
Probably has to do with what trim level you go with.
@jamesanderson562
4 жыл бұрын
@@ziggy149 👌
@Ram-re5em4 жыл бұрын
For the larger size engine look like nothing to be crazy about, should have a minimum of 500 hp and 500 torque.
@theresatruax38464 жыл бұрын
Where did you grow up Tim?
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
All over the midwest.
@theresatruax3846
4 жыл бұрын
Do you know anyone from Crawford Nebraska?
@theresatruax3846
4 жыл бұрын
You mentioned in a video about a restaurant in Harrison Nebraska.
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Theresa Truax nobody from Crawford. I’ve played the golf course once. Not sure on restaurant you are referring to.
@icare71514 жыл бұрын
7.3l 10sp disappointing fuel economy in high altitude. Ford please bring back option 428 “High Altitude Principle Use” secret sauce blast from the past. It was more than just software. If they put twin turbo chargers, one for off line and other higher rpm, this should help. Chevy just beat 7.3l in fuel economy in head to head COLORADO Testing.
@APGJuggernaut
4 жыл бұрын
wasn't a good comparison. They should've tested them same day. I wouldn't be surprised if the chevy still beats it on mileage, but it would've been closer.
@icare7151
4 жыл бұрын
Good point and the engine needs break in time. Also it’s typical that Ford will likely fine tune for high altitude with software updates
@billstewart24334 жыл бұрын
Will not buy a new 7.3 0r 6.7 so ignore my opinion, but towing with a 9,000 trailer with the 7.3 giving you
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
You get it. Thanks for commenting.
@billstewart2433
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk The transmission constantly searching goes to show, I think, that the 7.3 gas just doesn't have enough. My '11 6.2L drove me crazy when going up a hill with stock & trailer. Admittedly the percentage time one might be towing heavy loads is pretty small. Instead of gear hunting, I wish they had brought out a manual for the 7.3L. If I had a blank check, the 6.7 would be best pick.
@heathwest88774 жыл бұрын
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@francissullivan64004 жыл бұрын
I'll stick with my ram cummins
@harleyjackson5513
4 жыл бұрын
I will take the 7.3 Ford!
@francissullivan64004 жыл бұрын
Not worth 65,000$ plus..it just a truck
@jamesanderson562
4 жыл бұрын
For what you get thats not bad for todays prices and what you get with other companies
@francissullivan6400
4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesanderson562 I bought a 2014 ram Cummins with 42k on the odometer from a dealer that looks show room new from steam to stern from the top mast to her bilge for 35,000U.S $$ ..they're out there if u hunt for them..THANK YOU for the reply
@billstewart24334 жыл бұрын
All the endless chatter about trim and trim levels. It's all just pure profit for Ford. None of it makes for a better or faster truck and all those electronic options add unnecessary cost and unreliability. The auto makers are trying to make vehicles that require no thought on the part of the driver. It's bad enough that Ford decided to make cheap aluminum trucks, which had nothing to do with weight savings. Just more profit. My old Volkswagen bugs could maneuver through most of that in the videos! The only thing that is good about newer trucks is the locking rear axle. All the rest is fluff.
@soundmandave21
4 жыл бұрын
You had me until the "cheap aluminum" comment. You miss the mark there, but I agree with the rest. More gadgets, more failure points. I never want anything more than an XL or possibly XLT because of that...
@joefell7845
4 жыл бұрын
People that make statements they have no experience or knowledge about are pathetic. Kenworth and Peterbilt trucks have been using aluminum to build their trucks for decades, strong ,lighter and doesn't corrode. Best longest lasting trucks in the world. Hit a moose broadside with my aluminum hood 389 Pete and nothing broke except a plastic headlight lens,then drove it home 400 miles. Frign cheap aluminum,should have bought a tin Volvo.
@billstewart2433
4 жыл бұрын
@@joefell7845 I guess that is why they started making beer cans out of aluminum instead of steel, 'cause they are stronger!! From watching the Ford assembly line, there are about 6 workers, the rest are robots and if something goes awry just melt it down and start over. Cheaper than steel bodies. I also suspect your semi has a heavy cast aluminum bumper, and heavy fenders, otherwise the moose is crashing through. (I wouldn't brag about running over moose). There has been guys around here rue the day when their gooseneck hitch slides off the ball and punches right through their military grade aluminum bed. Military grade beer can. (It wouldn't keep me from buying a Ford :) Because of their hp and reliability but not the aluminum.) P.S. Aluminum doesn't rust but it corrodes. And by the time you have aluminum as strong as steel there is no weight savings. Airplanes are made from aluminum because of weight not strength.
@soundmandave21
4 жыл бұрын
@@billstewart2433 You clearly don't live somewhere that has moose. It is not if, it's when a truck driver will hit a moose in the winter around here. FYI, Steel beer cans went by the wayside due to cost and corrosion.
@joefell7845
4 жыл бұрын
@@billstewart2433 like I said you may have experience with beer cans but none with an aluminum bodied vehicle. Also to think someone would "brag" about a moose collision also has ZERO experience in North country driving.
@doctube20204 жыл бұрын
First!
@barrysoetoro34884 жыл бұрын
Death wobble galore. Buyer beware.
@scarroll625
4 жыл бұрын
Barry Hussein Soetoro I’ve had my 2019 f250 for a while now with no wobble at all. I’m crossing my fingers!
@barrysoetoro3488
4 жыл бұрын
Hugh Jinvaney good luck I recently got out of my 2018 f250 with 11k miles for it.
@MrVegaslive
4 жыл бұрын
That's just a delete option. If you pay little more it's not included. Reading Ford forums. They figured out it's the track bar with tre. Upgrade it with no tre and NO death wobble.
@scarroll625
4 жыл бұрын
Barry Hussein Soetoro I’m sure they would’ve accommodated you, Mr President.
@barrysoetoro3488
4 жыл бұрын
MrVegaslive nope wish that was true. Ford has no real fix at this time. I fought and fought with ford on my 2018 and the ford engineer said absolutely no real fix. Just “bandaids” at this time until they come up with the correct parts.
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Surprised myself and wrote nearly 2k words on the truck as well. Find it below. Also, I have more videos with a commercial angle with a dump truck and repairability chat with Dave Ives, one of Ford's chief engineers and a much longer off-road video. I'm traveling and expect those videos to come out next week. pickuptrucktalk.com/2020/01/first-drive-2020-ford-super-duty-godzilla-tremor-and-more/
@Mr.Beastforpresident
4 жыл бұрын
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk What’s the best possible advertised MPG ( GAS ) version in 2wd? In-other-words what rear gear ratio would it have, and is that rear gear offered in the SRW F350? And what’s the payload difference between the F250 & F350? Also what’s the differences in the 250 & 350? Literally just a bigger axle and leaf springs OR wider rims, thicker frame, beefier trans, and trans cooler, stronger crankshaft, bigger radiator, hardened valve seats etc?
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Good questions. 1. Since these are HD trucks, there is no advertised MPG. The EPA doesn't rate these trucks for fuel economy and Ford doesn't publish a number. My guess, again a guess, would be high teens with a 6.2L V8, 10-speed auto and 3.73 rear axle ratio. It would likely be pretty similar to a 7.3L V8, 10-speed auto and 3.55 rear axle ratio (note the 6.2L V8 doesn't come with a 3.55 rear axle). Both of those trucks would be SRW, regular cab, 2wd F_350. 2. Payload differences on 250 vs 350 - there is a massive chart here (media.ford.com/content/dam/fordmedia/North%20America/US/product/2020/f-series-super-duty/2020-Super-Duty-Tech-Specs.pdf) see pages 5-6 listing all the payload differences. It is so dependent on how you configure the truck and impossible to have a simple answer. 3. Engineering difference - frames are the same, engines are the same, radiator is the same. It is really about the rear axle, stronger springs to handle the additional load. I'm sure there could be a driveshaft and U-joint difference as well and I'd need to follow up with Ford on that. But, typically, the way you add additional towing and payload to a truck is through the springs and rear axle. Those are the main differences between the F-350 and F-250. The trucks are pretty much identical everywhere else. Thanks for watching!
@Mr.Beastforpresident
4 жыл бұрын
Pickup Truck Plus SUV Talk Thanks! Would you know all if any of the mechanical & suspension updates/upgrades on the new Ford F-150 5.0 besides the 10-speed trans? Tim, if you had to pick a 1/2 ton 2wd Truck with a Naturally Aspirated motor that rode the smoothest and got the best HWY MPG’s 20+ while still having at least a 1,800 pound payload what would you choose? Ford 5.0 with the smallest/lowest rear gear ratio Tundra with a V6- if they still offer a V-6 Chevy Silverado 4.3 Dodge Ram with the 3.6 Ford F-150 with a 3.7 V6 Naturally Aspirated Chevy Silverado 5.3 with the smallest/lowest rear gear ratio Chevys Turbo 4 Cylinder Silverado seems tempting and fun but I wonder what’s the advantages over the 4.3? Faster? Also have you ever driven the F-150 2.7 Ecoboost? Reliability seems sketchy from what I’ve seen in the past unless they’ve done some updates/upgrades
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Ok. Let's see. 1. There is a new F-150 coming out later this year. No details yet. However, there should be ZERO differences between the suspension with different engines. They simply swap in a different engine on the assembly line. 2. The 4.3L V6 Chevy, 3.3L V6 Ford are really for work truck customers. In fact, the Chevy you can't get in any trim besides work truck and I was recently at a Ford dealer who told me he doesn't even bother ordering the 3.3L V6 because nobody is buying it. They are buying the 2.7L turbo 6 instead. 3. The Sierra and Ram trucks ride the smoothest. They also come in non-turbo and the MPG differences are within 1 MPG of each other. Those are EPA numbers and in real-world driving, I bet there is really about zero difference. It seems like you don't want a turbo, but you want good HWY MPG and a fun to drive truck. Sorry, you can't do it. The small displacement turbo engines are faster, more fun to drive and return better fuel economy than a naturally aspirated engine. That's why everyone is building them. Hope that helps.
@icare7151
4 жыл бұрын
My 1997 7.3l PowerStroke E450 15 mpg @ 14000lbs @ 55mph! Ford should have built SuperDuty & E350/450 Hybrid & Full electric instead of gas guzzler 7.3l. In 2012 Ford dropped Escape Hybrid, Lexus/Toyota took full advantage. Ford Repeat in SuperDuty market, now 10+yrs behind. So while Fords new 7.3l @ 3-8mpg loaded, competition will be waving passing by the 7.3l owners stopped refueling, in their new fuel efficient HD Hybrid, Full Electric or fuel cell HD Trucks.
I drove the 2020 Superduty and it did drive better than my 2017 Superduty. I could notice the improvement.
Just ordered my 2022 F250 Lariat Tremor/7.3 V8. Can’t wait.
Its a big block pushrod v8. It's not going to win any fuel economy awards. It will work however for hundreds of thousands of miles with regular maintenance and extra fuel cost. It is meant to work.
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Exactly.
@kevinashleylewis
4 жыл бұрын
It's actually still a small block. 9.65 deck height and I think a 4 something bore spacing.
@ryansheard8092
4 жыл бұрын
So what does that mean? 12MPG? 14?
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Ryan Sheard I’m thinking 14-16 based on drivers style and conditions unloaded. Single digits loaded.
@ryansheard8092
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk If I can get 14 to 16 on the tremor I will buy that in a heartbeat.
Ordered w/o trailer assist. Had to fix my pedal commander somewhere and where the knob would have been is the best spot. Saved 1600 and used that towards loading ramps and led lights instead. I'll just have to use my own judgment and skills to turn the wheel. Just like I've been doing for the past 30 years...
6.9 mpg while towing that 9 thousand pounds is not bad at all
I like how it sounds, i like the 10 speed, i like how it looks, but damn... that's cringeworthy when it nearly flips in the twisty ditch! My Power Wagon could go through that with none of the craziness. The front of the Ford is too rigid. I just don't see it ever STUFFING 37 inch tires all the way up in the wells like my Wagon can. If anyone in Nebraska, Wyoming, or Colorado has a Tremor and wants to go hit some trails, crawling and rock wheeling, leave me a comment. The Tremor intrigues me, and I would love to go wheeling together to compare the Tremor capabilities with my 16 PW.
Ok, I always skip ads, but dagnabbed if that Zebra shoe might be just what I need! Bad back, arms, arthritis, pain, and I always remove shoes before coming inside (ewww, just think of where you’ve been!). Ok, back to trucks... 7.3 gasoline, that’s what I’m interested in. Ok, we get cameras, get on with that 7.3!
Got to love all the Chevy truck adds in between...Good review nontheless.
@Pickuptrucktalk
3 жыл бұрын
Thanks 👍 Sorry, I don't control the ads.
We’ll buff out those scratches 😂
It would be nice if manufacturers would stop actimg like f250 owners really want to rock crawl enough to set up a suspension for it and just give us a tire pressure control to drive on a ranch or on a dirt road to soften the ride. No need for the rest of this.
This was a fantastic easy watch. I loved seeing the tremor towing the black series hq19. THAT is the exact setup I’m going for. Was looking at the hq15’s but the 19 will tow better. I had a huge grin watching that footage. Very informative brother. The 7.3 is the way to go (at least for me)
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Glad you enjoyed the video!
Well the tremor is better at competing with the power wagon than the ram runner and rebel were at competing with the raptor
Ford- with 7.3l there is engine bay room for two high hp hybrid assist motors, in theory could improve fuel economy by 35%
BUILT FORD TOUGH!!!
I got a little confused . So is the tremor lower or highier ? Than the regular 250
A power wagon is NOT a power wagon with a diesel. power wagon has never been available in diesel since 1946. There is no substitute for the original 4x4 the combat proven power wagon. The truck of trucks.
Junkyard 7.3 donated to my P71 Vic
@Pickuptrucktalk
3 жыл бұрын
Beast!
@Typing.._
3 жыл бұрын
I only dream 🙏🏼 🤥
@Typing.._
3 жыл бұрын
I have the car but no GoDZiLLa
Great video! Very informative and I like the footage.
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for watching!
Ford needs to bring back the MANUAL SHIFT ON THE FLOOR FOUR WHEEL DRIVE SYSTEM. Not everyone like the electric shift on the fly they only offering now for the 2020 models.
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Hmm... really? I have owned and driven both. I'll take the turn the dial versus reaching over and pulling the lever. Faster, safer (keep both eyes on the road) and just simply more convenient plus you get the floor space back.
@cobeytriche4808
4 жыл бұрын
I have manual shift in all 3 of my super duty's and have friends with the electric shift they are always having trouble with their four wheel drive systems not engaging and not wanting to disengage once its in four wheel drive. Manual shift has not once every gave me any issues putting in or taking out of four wheel drive. A good friend of mine owns a mechanic shop and he sees anywhere from 5-10 trucks a month with electric shift four wheel drive problems.
@rockie307
4 жыл бұрын
@@cobeytriche4808 I've seen the opposite the electric shift has been more reliable for me and people I know. I've had a few floor shifters with trouble no electrics yet.
@soundmandave21
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk Convenient, yes. Reliable? Not compared to a lever. I will take a shift on the floor 4x4 system over an electronic gizmo EVERY time...
@soundmandave21
4 жыл бұрын
@@rockie307 How does a floor lever fail? I don't know what the failure mode would be. I have had electronics fail, and those typically require a shop to fix...
Love your videos. I wish they would’ve kept that same height in 2020. If egress and ingress is a problem, then get a Ranger!
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
Seems like Nissan may not like Ford calling something Godzilla hahaha... great video Tim
@Sackmatters
4 жыл бұрын
Nissan Nation Podcast they have every right to not like it.
@aaron5222
4 жыл бұрын
You would think as Americans we would have come up with something a little more.... american. Like Big Foot. I mean it leaves one large carbon footprint hah.
@aaron5222
4 жыл бұрын
@@mewrongway no logic
@aaron5222
4 жыл бұрын
@@mewrongway I like it.
@roninkraut6873
4 жыл бұрын
Thunderjet
Good Morning! ☕
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Morning to you as well!
I still prefer the tremor in KR trim,,
20:15 Poor Don - he apparently had a long day too.
A rough riding 1-ton? Come on timster just go get a Honda Ridgeline already LOL
@scarroll625
4 жыл бұрын
Lol the Ridgeline is basically an Odyssey with a half-assed “bed”.
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
😂 true that.
@zapcity8992
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk you know you're looking forward to a Ridgeline dually!
Tim, how does the BLIS work with a trailer? How does the radar signal go around the front corner of the trailer to "see" down the side of the trailer? many trailers are wider than the truck is .
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
I think it comes down to programming the trailer into the system. The BLIS uses this information to determine the blind spot radius, then shoots out radar appropriately to determine blind spots. The radar shoots out pretty wide.
Why does your title say new 7.3 when the red truck has 6.7 L Power Stroke on the door? at 26:09. Weak...
I keep hearing about issues with the 10 speed transmission. Any thoughts?
@Pickuptrucktalk
3 жыл бұрын
I've heard some of these issues. I just bought a '21 F-150 with a 10-speed to drive around this year and I'll update if I come across anything.
@gomezone1461
3 жыл бұрын
My 17 f150 was in the shop for 3 months for the transmission..I hear the 10 speeds are different on the f250...ready to do a trade
@eatdafat7101
3 жыл бұрын
My buddies 19 f150 was lemoned out due to the transmission. He had the 5.0 with the 10 speed. Ford bought it back after some fighting and he picked up a 20 f250 since he liked the 19 f250 I have.
@sheepdog819
3 жыл бұрын
They are great transmissions. You just need to service it more often than the recommended manufacturer schedule. 40k mile services is what I suggest.
@marcgerardo235
3 жыл бұрын
10 speeds are trash. Being a joint venture between gm and Ford I have it in my 21 tahoe z71. Things been in the shop 2x in the last month for overheating. Bought it new still hasn't been hooked up to a trailer and barely have 4k on it. Just getting the trips to the dealer doc'd for lemon law. Would avoid at all costs for an almost 70k vehicle
Thx for videos and discussion PTPSUV Talk HM2CW on automated trailer backing. I'm old school and enjoy the planning and challenge of backing and maneuvering various vehicles with trlrs for more that 50yrs including my 40' goose neck 5th wheel but it's a perishable skill. My ? is to Ford do you cover the consequential damages when their truck knowingly and willfully backs over objects it's AI isn't programmed or capable of avoiding and the driver doesn't have the skill set to avoid. I'll keep my hands&feet on controls and eyes on the road and AI in my smart phone where it belongs not at the controls of my truck.YMMV
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
I hear you. I prefer backing up as well, however, this is pretty slick. And no, Ford isn’t covering any damages. You are still in control. Thanks for watching!
@luisreviews6412
4 жыл бұрын
Gimmick add on to please the Carolla drivers buying a truck.
@ziggy149
4 жыл бұрын
Geezus - you guys need to lighten up. If something aids in the maneuvering of a vehicle or that vehicle with trailer in tow, it doesn't directly effect the size of your dangler.
I know if I bought a new truck which I would never do take it off roading in the mud
I run a non-profit 501(c)3 equine assisted therapy program for kids and adults with either a mental, emotional or physical disability learning the love of horses and healing through them. We are healing and saving lives everyday with our Diego Ranch Inc. program in Arkansas. People are always asking us for help and now I am reaching out to you for help. For us to better serve everyone we are in need of another truck to pull our Diego Ranch trailer that hauls all our saddles and helmets for the kids when we go to schools, churches and hospitals. Our other truck that hauls our therapy horses is a 2017 F250. I know this is a big item but with our amazing program of over 500 clients and serving over 3500 people in 2019, I thought you might be able to help pull some strings...... We have a website and Facebook page if you would like to check us out at Diego Ranch Inc. Hope to hear back from you
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Wish I could help. Good luck!
@diegoranchinc5389
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk Thanks for replying back.
Did the F-250 Tremor have a better ride on the hwy than the F-350 Tremor?
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Frankly, I don’t know. I didn’t focus on on road driving differences between the two.
Now how come I can’t spec a Tremor with a sunroof on Ford’s website?
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
No idea. That’s strange. Ford usually allows you to spec about everything.
@ziggy149
4 жыл бұрын
Probably has to do with what trim level you go with.
@jamesanderson562
4 жыл бұрын
@@ziggy149 👌
For the larger size engine look like nothing to be crazy about, should have a minimum of 500 hp and 500 torque.
Where did you grow up Tim?
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
All over the midwest.
@theresatruax3846
4 жыл бұрын
Do you know anyone from Crawford Nebraska?
@theresatruax3846
4 жыл бұрын
You mentioned in a video about a restaurant in Harrison Nebraska.
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
Theresa Truax nobody from Crawford. I’ve played the golf course once. Not sure on restaurant you are referring to.
7.3l 10sp disappointing fuel economy in high altitude. Ford please bring back option 428 “High Altitude Principle Use” secret sauce blast from the past. It was more than just software. If they put twin turbo chargers, one for off line and other higher rpm, this should help. Chevy just beat 7.3l in fuel economy in head to head COLORADO Testing.
@APGJuggernaut
4 жыл бұрын
wasn't a good comparison. They should've tested them same day. I wouldn't be surprised if the chevy still beats it on mileage, but it would've been closer.
@icare7151
4 жыл бұрын
Good point and the engine needs break in time. Also it’s typical that Ford will likely fine tune for high altitude with software updates
Will not buy a new 7.3 0r 6.7 so ignore my opinion, but towing with a 9,000 trailer with the 7.3 giving you
@Pickuptrucktalk
4 жыл бұрын
You get it. Thanks for commenting.
@billstewart2433
4 жыл бұрын
@@Pickuptrucktalk The transmission constantly searching goes to show, I think, that the 7.3 gas just doesn't have enough. My '11 6.2L drove me crazy when going up a hill with stock & trailer. Admittedly the percentage time one might be towing heavy loads is pretty small. Instead of gear hunting, I wish they had brought out a manual for the 7.3L. If I had a blank check, the 6.7 would be best pick.
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I'll stick with my ram cummins
@harleyjackson5513
4 жыл бұрын
I will take the 7.3 Ford!
Not worth 65,000$ plus..it just a truck
@jamesanderson562
4 жыл бұрын
For what you get thats not bad for todays prices and what you get with other companies
@francissullivan6400
4 жыл бұрын
@@jamesanderson562 I bought a 2014 ram Cummins with 42k on the odometer from a dealer that looks show room new from steam to stern from the top mast to her bilge for 35,000U.S $$ ..they're out there if u hunt for them..THANK YOU for the reply
All the endless chatter about trim and trim levels. It's all just pure profit for Ford. None of it makes for a better or faster truck and all those electronic options add unnecessary cost and unreliability. The auto makers are trying to make vehicles that require no thought on the part of the driver. It's bad enough that Ford decided to make cheap aluminum trucks, which had nothing to do with weight savings. Just more profit. My old Volkswagen bugs could maneuver through most of that in the videos! The only thing that is good about newer trucks is the locking rear axle. All the rest is fluff.
@soundmandave21
4 жыл бұрын
You had me until the "cheap aluminum" comment. You miss the mark there, but I agree with the rest. More gadgets, more failure points. I never want anything more than an XL or possibly XLT because of that...
@joefell7845
4 жыл бұрын
People that make statements they have no experience or knowledge about are pathetic. Kenworth and Peterbilt trucks have been using aluminum to build their trucks for decades, strong ,lighter and doesn't corrode. Best longest lasting trucks in the world. Hit a moose broadside with my aluminum hood 389 Pete and nothing broke except a plastic headlight lens,then drove it home 400 miles. Frign cheap aluminum,should have bought a tin Volvo.
@billstewart2433
4 жыл бұрын
@@joefell7845 I guess that is why they started making beer cans out of aluminum instead of steel, 'cause they are stronger!! From watching the Ford assembly line, there are about 6 workers, the rest are robots and if something goes awry just melt it down and start over. Cheaper than steel bodies. I also suspect your semi has a heavy cast aluminum bumper, and heavy fenders, otherwise the moose is crashing through. (I wouldn't brag about running over moose). There has been guys around here rue the day when their gooseneck hitch slides off the ball and punches right through their military grade aluminum bed. Military grade beer can. (It wouldn't keep me from buying a Ford :) Because of their hp and reliability but not the aluminum.) P.S. Aluminum doesn't rust but it corrodes. And by the time you have aluminum as strong as steel there is no weight savings. Airplanes are made from aluminum because of weight not strength.
@soundmandave21
4 жыл бұрын
@@billstewart2433 You clearly don't live somewhere that has moose. It is not if, it's when a truck driver will hit a moose in the winter around here. FYI, Steel beer cans went by the wayside due to cost and corrosion.
@joefell7845
4 жыл бұрын
@@billstewart2433 like I said you may have experience with beer cans but none with an aluminum bodied vehicle. Also to think someone would "brag" about a moose collision also has ZERO experience in North country driving.
First!
Death wobble galore. Buyer beware.
@scarroll625
4 жыл бұрын
Barry Hussein Soetoro I’ve had my 2019 f250 for a while now with no wobble at all. I’m crossing my fingers!
@barrysoetoro3488
4 жыл бұрын
Hugh Jinvaney good luck I recently got out of my 2018 f250 with 11k miles for it.
@MrVegaslive
4 жыл бұрын
That's just a delete option. If you pay little more it's not included. Reading Ford forums. They figured out it's the track bar with tre. Upgrade it with no tre and NO death wobble.
@scarroll625
4 жыл бұрын
Barry Hussein Soetoro I’m sure they would’ve accommodated you, Mr President.
@barrysoetoro3488
4 жыл бұрын
MrVegaslive nope wish that was true. Ford has no real fix at this time. I fought and fought with ford on my 2018 and the ford engineer said absolutely no real fix. Just “bandaids” at this time until they come up with the correct parts.