Great video Andre!!!

@TripAMD

4 жыл бұрын

@Constitutional Remunerations lmao

@TripAMD

4 жыл бұрын

@Constitutional Remunerations yeah, I honestly think the guys see how excited Andre gets about something as he's jumping up and down and giggling and they just say "OK buddy, we'll get that one" lol. It reminds me of, me when i want something really bad😆 Its probably all the same to the other guys anyhow no matter what truck they get. Honestly, it was the right choice imo. A lot of people want to know how this engine stacks up. That's the truck i would've picked.

@TripAMD

4 жыл бұрын

@The Fast Lane Truck Just realized this got pinned😎 Thanks, cool of y'all to appreciate the appreciation👍

I build this engine all day long at the Windsor engine plant. Windsor, Ontario

@xnorthkillerx

4 жыл бұрын

Crentshen would you ever buy one for yourself?

@KrisMinnear

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks, but getting it confused with a 7.3 Cleveland is still a possibility.

@benjaminwayneb

4 жыл бұрын

@Phu Doan The 7.3 has roller lifters and rockers. Ford's old 6.2 out pulls the 6.4 so the 7.3 will easily out pull the 6.4. kzread.info/dash/bejne/a5uBuJVug8Wnf7w.html

@woodfloordoctor663

4 жыл бұрын

Johnny Cash's song "I got it one piece at a time" comes to mind.

@roninkraut6873

4 жыл бұрын

That’s awesome! Cool to see your work come alive

73L VS 62L Even though this TFL review centers around the overall number. We are still impressed with the 7.3L and its more about the differences between each engine to us here at 5 Star Tuning. We wanted to show for those who have a 6.2L and or those wanting a 7.3L what could they expect approx. hp/tq to wheel between the engines.(stock form) We can run in 7th gear (the 7.3) and it will produce a higher number but will hit the factor speed limiter half way in WOT run. We might do that onces we get into development in a a couple of weeks . We also have our 2nd 7.3L coming in today (about time lol) it has a 3.55 gears, we will get some more runs with it to compare

@Nostradamus_Order33

4 жыл бұрын

Breaking Ground Excavation What part of being respectful to the community don’t you understand?

@dansharp9260

4 жыл бұрын

Can you guys just turn off the speed limiter and get a real test as to what the engine is capable of in otherwise stock form?

@ryansheard8092

4 жыл бұрын

Can you guys tune for MPG?

@NWI_Steel

4 жыл бұрын

Why not just remove the speed limiter and re-run?

@paulrodrigues9603

4 жыл бұрын

@I know you are right, And I just got owned but: I've never even seen a Bow Tie tow truck or a Bow Tie RV either.

Anyone on here look past the peak numbers and see the flat tq curve on the graph. This 7.3 will be a great towing motor. It's not all about peak numbers .

@Icutmetal

4 жыл бұрын

oobie goobie Agreed 100%

@stevearmstrong9860

4 жыл бұрын

It's all about what rpm it produces the power .

@ALMX5DP

4 жыл бұрын

I’m interested to see what the differences are between the “civilian” and commercial 7.3 are. Chassis cab trucks with 7.3 are rated at 350hp, even less than the 6.2. I bet the area under the curve is still much greater, so maybe they just limit rpm or have a cam that is designed for lower revs.

@scottback3020

4 жыл бұрын

I’ve not been a ford truck enthusiast since my 2016 F250. It was a great truck expect for the fit and finish, that’s what ruined them for me. But I have to say. I’m excited to see how the 7.3 does. Put a 4.30 gear with it and I bet it’ll be a game changer for gas engines. Diesels are a dying from epa so the future is gas. This new 7.3 will be MORE than capable of towing what MOST owners will ever tow.

@therealist4006

4 жыл бұрын

Your right about Peak ##'s BUT there simply isn't enough torque with the 7.3. Sure it may be durable, floored up a long hill at max towing and not hurt it BUT as I said, simply not enough torque. Another failure by Ford.

Dyno starts at 3:50

@billgotskillb4308

4 жыл бұрын

Matt Knox thank u

@78ginop

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you

@NorthSwing

4 жыл бұрын

Mvp

@garfieldxcruz

4 жыл бұрын

Thanks 👍🏼

@tahoehiker

4 жыл бұрын

The comment I was looking for!

Where the 7.3 is going to crush it is in medium duty trucks that usually required a Diesel engine. Companies are sick of paying extra for the Diesel engine and all the problems that come from modern emissions systems. If they can buy a truck to do the same job for less money and less money to keep it running, then that’s what they’ll do!

@markunit72

4 жыл бұрын

i have a 95 7.3, it just runs on money too

@Prestiged_peck

3 жыл бұрын

THIS, if 400 ft-lbs wheel torque can't move it, honestly an f-250 shouldn't be moving it, and the 350 should get a more powerful version with another probably 50 ft-lbs

6.2 gas 335.2 hp 369lb-ft 7.3 gas 358.3 hp 407.3 lb-ft

@therealist4006

4 жыл бұрын

Simply not enough Grunt

@alexs3187

4 жыл бұрын

Larry Ford you’re more interested in numbers on paper than you are about real world performance. That means you were never in the market for one anyway.

@RadDadisRad

4 жыл бұрын

Larry Ford nobody else makes a gasser with more grunt. JS

@RadDadisRad

4 жыл бұрын

Slow Fox the 7.3 isn’t down on power, it’s tuned for longevity. The way the factory has it tuned so that you can run it it’s entire life running ragged. I would imagine that intake, cat deletes and a tune would add another 60 pound feet of torque and another 25hp. The 7.3 puts out 50 more pound feet of torque at the start of the dyno run. A tune on a 6.2 can’t cover that spread at 2,200rpm. You’d have to add a supercharger to match the graph.

@Digger927

4 жыл бұрын

@@slowfox6286 That argument is silly. We don't know what the 7.3 is capable of yet with a cold air intake and a tune that you tout on the 6.2. From this test the 7.3 has much more grunt in lower RPM (the actual "feel a difference" RPM range for towing) than the 6.2. As for the diesel argument...that's even more silly, anyone knows the gassers aren't going to throw out comparable numbers to a diesel. The issue is the diesel is $8k more expensive and much more expensive to maintain so many of us just do not want a diesel.

Can't wait to see those tuned numbers on the 7.3

@brendan747

4 жыл бұрын

Phu Doan unmatched in lifter tick, you’re correct. piece of trash of a motor.

The people in the comments talking bad about the 7.3 numbers....LMAO. If you want horsepower you have to mod pretty much any engine ever. If you wanted to tune it and custom fab performance mods then do it! It comes from factory as a tow pig. Ya'll are nuts, what are you expecting out of a factory tow pig? You want horsepower don't look at trucks that are meant to work and tow and hold up, go buy a ford lightning or shelby f150/raptor etc. These are not high horse power engines, they are specifically designed for durability and towability.

@bobl.2213

4 жыл бұрын

I agree - the 7.3 is built for Towing in a Truck. They can get a Supercharged Shelby

Am I the only one who's curious about the "factory limiting the maximum torque"? I cant wait to see what potential this thing has.

@michaelmayfieldjr427

4 жыл бұрын

Yes me too

@mattkandel2449

4 жыл бұрын

I guess that's part of how they increase numbers on these year to year.

@garyblatt8925

4 жыл бұрын

I have to admit that is disappointing to me.

@Kmecha84

4 жыл бұрын

Uncork this engine with a cam and tune

@scotcoon1186

4 жыл бұрын

It's built for longevity, with such a broad power curve, it will discourage redlining it all the time, which will add to longevity and decrease fuel use. The intake and ports may not let it flow enough to have large high-rpm gains even with a cam and tuning.

Y'all need to some how get your hands on a 2020 F350 6.2L because it comes with the 10 speed auto. Then compare it to the 6.2L with the 6 speed and see if anything is gained or lost between that transmissions

@dillonhorn7379

4 жыл бұрын

Brandon Martinez the 6.2 only comes with a 10 speed in a F350.

@Maverick09171

4 жыл бұрын

Brandon Martinez number of gears is going to have a negligible effect on the dyno. Driveability will absolutely be different but power to the ground in similar ratios will be the same

@1coolvideo

4 жыл бұрын

What? The only choice in 2020 is 7.3 with 10 speed.

@brandonmartinez9259

4 жыл бұрын

It would be a good comparison between the 2020 trucks though comparing the F250 6.2L with the 6 speed and the F350 with the 6.2L and the 10 speed.

@stevenp3176

4 жыл бұрын

Brandon Martinez Numbers would be close if not the same if they dyno in 1-1.

"Godzilla" was made to replace the V10. Comparing it to THAT would be a more realistic test.

@prestondeters5093

4 жыл бұрын

My brother has a 3 valve V10 with the 5 speed. Ever since they announced the 7.3 with the 10 speed we've been wondering the same thing. How much better will it be than the V10, especially when towing.

@sethcawthern3278

4 жыл бұрын

Yea man I agree all the way with that 6.8 VS 7.3 would be a heck of a test.

@MattN03

4 жыл бұрын

I have a 5 Star tuned 08 F250 3V V10 and would be very interested in seeing how the tuned 7.3 would do on the dyno, towing, and MPG.

@smmyfoster

4 жыл бұрын

You can't call that Ford "Godzilla" , Godzilla has been and will always be the monster from Japan Nissan GTR since 1989 bb!

@MrJak427

4 жыл бұрын

@@smmyfoster wasn't the sole car referred to as "godzilla"?????????...... ford only nicknamed the engine "godzilla" theres a difference

Wow look at how early that torque peaks! If I was shown this graph and not told the engine I would’ve sworn it was turbocharged.

Love how the power just shoots up at low rpm, no replacement for displacement.

@charlespetersonii6989

4 жыл бұрын

Boost and a bottle 😉🤘

The curve of the 7.3 is impressive. It went straight up at low rpm and held it. Definitely made for pulling at low rpm. You'll see this engine in a lot of moving vans and small buses. Traditional proven pushrod durability and they'll only perfect it with time.

@motobator1895

4 жыл бұрын

Eric Jr only we can perfect it over time. Ford will discontinue it if it’s a good engine.

@EricFortuneJr.

4 жыл бұрын

Jay Bee True, since dealerships depend on parts and service. The 300 straight six was one of their best engines to date, cheap and easy to maintain at home. They killed it and introduced the Tritons, those had numerous issues, particularly the 5.4 up until the last 2 years of it’s life cycle. Ford corrected most issues then replaced it with the Coyote which I agree is more competitive for today’s market.

@motobator1895

4 жыл бұрын

Eric Jr 7.3 diesel also a great engine that is no more

So on a 2020 youre paying for 360 horsepower and about 400lb-ft to the wheels, while also getting it at a lot lower rpms, I’d say that’s well worth the 2 grand for the 7.3 motor, and it’s simpler and has a newer and most likely stronger transmission.

@chanoleyva8584

Жыл бұрын

The 3.5 eco boost makes more torque I don't get why this is better

People complain about everything damn! TFL bringing us this footage *first!* Chill and enjoy!

The torque curve in that 7.3 is almost like a diesel impressive

@cdrbews

4 жыл бұрын

Like a diesel only 500lbft lower. The modern baby diesels make more torque at lower rpm and get far better mileage. In my opinion which means absolutely nothing ford missed the mark with this engine. Toss the big displacement engine and apply ecoboost tech to thier V8s and get big numbers with improved mileage.

@freedomisntfree_44

4 жыл бұрын

cdrbews you obviously don’t know what almost means 🙄

@Chris.P.Bacon.

4 жыл бұрын

@@cdrbews i disagree. Ford actually hit the nail in the head with this motor, they weren't shooting for high horsepower numbers but overall strong reliability, longevity, and usefull power. As this motor will not only be used for pick up trucks but many more applications like, garbage trucks, dump trucks, delivery trucks, etc.

@seekingadventures

4 жыл бұрын

Just like my 1996 7.3 powerstroke at the crank.

@cdrbews

4 жыл бұрын

@@Chris.P.Bacon. Again they totally missed the mark with those goal all of which can easily be met and out performed by a diesel. An important matterfor a work vehicle is reduced maintenance costs and reduced fuel costs. This motor will never beat a diesel in fuel cost. It may be a very reliable motor with a very flat torque curve but this motor is essentially a new version an old school industrial 460. Ford, chevy and dodge have tried this idea previously with the v10s and the 502 and diesels dominated those motors to the point that they were only offered for a short time. Diesels have proven turbos can be extremely reliable under much higher pressures then gas engines. Theres no reason they couldn't achieve thier goals with a small displacement turbo motor and had improved power torque mileage. They have proven that with the ecoboost lineup.

I think ford is playing it safe and under powering the 7.3 so there are no issues with them on its first year. I think that engine is strong enough to hold almost 500hp

@pang8498

4 жыл бұрын

@yoyo 19 you don't buy a 7.3 liter Godzookie for fuel efficiency. actually with those numbers why would you buy the 7.3 liter Godzookie at all?

@ShelbyvsViper

4 жыл бұрын

PAN G, there are times we don’t pull 20K around town, and use the truck as a daily driver. You must put a load on diesels and get them hot enough to burn all the soot out of the exhaust. Or else wet stacking and the dpf exhaust clogs up. I know because we had it happen at 21,000 miles. This one covered under warranty, but the next one won’t be ($6,500 repair, I’d do it myself if I had the diagnostics). So back to gas for me because I only pull a heavy load infrequently.

@Graveltrucking

4 жыл бұрын

ShelbyvsViper The new diesel trucks you need lots of lube when you have to take it up the ass when the dealer hands you the bill for repairs. The tandem axle dump truck I drive has a DD13 it’s clogged up the DPF what a royal pain in the ass.

Awesome i didn't know that Chum Lee works at 5 star tuning

@Montana270

4 жыл бұрын

lmfao

@deansapp4635

3 жыл бұрын

Thats too funny

This thing makes killer torque at under 2000 rpm. This things made to pull. I’m sure it’s excellent. Some of you are obviously to caught up in having the fastest truck on the planet. Lol.

@wildbill23c

4 жыл бұрын

This is exactly what Ford built this engine for is pulling, its not a racing engine LOL. Although it sure as hell could be tuned for racing, they've been able to pull 1,000+HP from the old 7.5L 460 V8's for racing, so this new 7.3L V8 will easily be able to blow past that with some tuning.

I dont care about HP - Torque curve and Mileage need more attention.

@jrod264winmag

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, that's what ultimately counts.

@ifazer8akathedoctor275

4 жыл бұрын

next video

@Looptydude

4 жыл бұрын

@@noidontthinksolol I'm afraid you don't understand torque. If an engine like this has low rpm torque it means with the 4.62 first gear and 4.3 rear gear and torque converter, it can start pulling immediately. If the torque was higher in the rpm band, it would mean the hearing would have to be even more shorter and you'd have to rev it's nuts off just to get the thing moving.

@Looptydude

4 жыл бұрын

@@noidontthinksolol good luck getting a 6000lb truck to move with 150 ft.lbs. 18 wheelers are quite literally 1000 ft.lbs with 200 hp engines and a 3000 rpm redline. The whole point of low end torque is to move stuff. Sure a little honda s2000 with it's measly torque number and awesome hp/liter is great, but because it has no torque it has very short gears and get the same mpg as a Corvette of the same vintage. The low end torque of the Vette lets you cruise 65 mph at like 1200 rpm but the non existant torque of the s2000 means you cruise 65 at like 3800 rpm.

@ClintsTractor

4 жыл бұрын

@@noidontthinksolol On a truck when it comes to towing, you want the torque to come in at a low RPM. Then maintain an even torque curve throughout the rev limit. Which also of course gives you the HP up top.

Would have liked to see both trucks on the dyno with one of their tunes.

@RedHaloManiac95

4 жыл бұрын

I wanna see the 6.7 on the dyno with a tune

@BaracoBoy

4 жыл бұрын

@@RedHaloManiac95 it will still be less than a 6.4 ;p

@RedHaloManiac95

4 жыл бұрын

Bret Petrie those things were beasts tuned. Insane power

@BaracoBoy

4 жыл бұрын

@@RedHaloManiac95 ohh i know lol i currently have one and love it, 6.7 is making good numbers stock though will be ineteresting to see on a good tune

@RedHaloManiac95

4 жыл бұрын

Bret Petrie you don’t have any problems with flash boiling coolant?

Wouldn't be better to compare the 7.3 to the 6.8 V10 since that's what it is replacing?

@RadDadisRad

4 жыл бұрын

2016 Shelbygt350R the 6.8 V10 has been gone for 10 years, not sure you can replace something that’s been extinct a decade its former.

@sterr1

4 жыл бұрын

I have a 2019 f450 box van with the V10. Low end is really good I am looking forward to driving a new 7.3 loaded up.

@dillonh321

4 жыл бұрын

@@RadDadisRad V10 has still been around in fleet chassis cabs. This new v8 will be replacing those v10s.

@Artburg

4 жыл бұрын

I still love my '99 v10 F250 Sd

@paulrodrigues9603

4 жыл бұрын

@@RadDadisRad No it is still around Just not in 250's

I have had a 5 star tune on my eco boost for 95k miles. Amazing company. Cant wait for the tune on new 7.3.

The 7.3 hp is a little low. But probably done on purpose from ford so next year it will make hp! and so on and so on and so on!!!

@dillonh321

4 жыл бұрын

Or because they are a mile above sea level...

@jessaphillips2846

4 жыл бұрын

Or because horsepower is not important when you’re towing, torque is

@acemobile9806

4 жыл бұрын

@@dillonh321 nope, 5-Star is in South Carolina. Maybe 200 ft above sea level?

@Rickgrott100

4 жыл бұрын

@@dillonh321 Five star tuning is in South Carolina not at a mile high elevation + All modern dyno's have a correction factor for SAE typically J1349 it wouldn't matter where you dyno it. The numbers will be correct. Now the real world testing done at a mile high would not be the same as sea level.

@Rickgrott100

4 жыл бұрын

@@jessaphillips2846 I agree both number should go up but gas engines typically make great hp over a diesel. Btw a 1970 oldsmobile 442 made 500 ft. lbs with a 7.4 engine that was 50 years ago. come on ford!!!!

Motor needs time to break in too. That 7.3 looks brand spankin new. Will probably put down another 5 hp after 5k miles.

I'd rather have seen you compare this to the all new GM HD 6.6L gas engine. It has 401hp and 464torque vs the Ford 7.3L of 430hp and 475torque.

Ford should offer both of these engines in the F-150. :D

@cfltitan

4 жыл бұрын

OnTheRocks a third gen coyote will make more horsepower than both of those with just a good tune. Granted it wouldn't make the torque but you don't need that kind of torque in a half ton truck.

@michaelmatsos5207

4 жыл бұрын

@@cfltitan what about the 7.3L with a tune?

@blite903

4 жыл бұрын

cfltitan they’re replacing the coyote in the f150 with a 4.8L v8 around 420hp and 420-460tq

@cfltitan

4 жыл бұрын

LFTD JKU Damn I didn't know that. That's crazy horsepower from that small of a motor! Ford is destroying the competition right now and nobody is even close to catching up. And this coming from a guy that drives a Silverado.

@JohnDoe-nz6bk

4 жыл бұрын

cfltitan most ppl do NOT tune their trucks!

They didnt even talk about the real trick the 7.3 does and that is that it stays at stoichiometric during load that will save a ton of gas

@donleamon8653

4 жыл бұрын

Probably because most TFL watchers have no clue.

Well, that was interesting. I’d rather have a torquey, big V8 that is dead simple and reliable. Given that it’s a new Ford engine, reliability IS up in the air, though. I want a diesel, but I don’t want the DEF & other emissions equipment. And NO, I’m not going to entertain “Just delete it!” “Just do a delete and you’ll be fine” comments. I just gave up a 2004 Mercedes 5cyl diesel that was, once sorted, spectacular. I would love a new Cummins, Duramax, or Powerstoke, but I’ve had my share of limp to the repair shop to get the emissions equipment fixed experiences.

@davidcaskey4669

4 жыл бұрын

People that say just delete them need to walk into one of the diesel performance shops and ask for that they won't even talk about it

@LukeEdward

4 жыл бұрын

Furn333 Well, each of the new turbocharged engines have had their growing pains. Coked up valves, open deck block cracking, etc. Things were eventually fixed, but many of the new Fords are not the best choices for 1-2 M.Y.

Great video Andre, thank you and to the guys at 5 Star. I was hoping for slightly better numbers to be honest but still excellent. Looking forward to towing tests, mpg loops and overall driving impressions.

No one: Absolutely no one: Josh Newman: work trocks, tow trocks

Next video: “we are straight piping it”😂 I want to hear her straight piped

@tylerjackson4168

4 жыл бұрын

@Johnny Lightning Agreed, I would like to hear a quality aftermarket cat back system installed though.

@garrettrosenow2938

4 жыл бұрын

The young Conservative do you mean hear??

@kyle60213

4 жыл бұрын

Garrett Rosenow 🤣🤣 yeah, ig I was too excited about the 7.3

@kyle60213

4 жыл бұрын

Johnny Lightning nah

@kyle60213

4 жыл бұрын

tyler jackson I would prefer a aftermarket system but us young guys who don’t have money laying around it would due

Missed the whole point for the 7.3. It was designed for fuel economy by intensive modeling (computer) of load cycle/gear ratio/speed optimized to operate at lower rpm. Higher power was incidental

@bigal6684

4 жыл бұрын

Peak numbers are just easier for people to understand without too much thought.

One thing that wasn't corrected for in ratio is the 35" tires of the tremor vs the 33.5" tires on the full stocker. That does affect final drive ratio, and the heavier tires will increase parasitic loss. It likely wasn't the best choice to use the tremor as a test unit. I'm sure one of the guys at 5Star bought it for "the company" as more of a personal rig. It won't affect the shape of the curve, just maximum output doesn't compare well. It's good to finally have an idea about this engine though. Also: torque curve is significantly more important than maximum output numbers. Compare the average torque between these engines to get a better idea of the driving dynamics. That 7.3 will feel like the ecoboosts just that it is a massive pump. That's a chunky curve. Also Also: The 2.7L just got even more impressive as it's max torque numbers on the same dyno measure basically identical to the 6.2L max numbers (372 for the 2.7L). That would mean it's likely underrated by about 30 ft/lbs.

@BeanoNoir

4 жыл бұрын

Went back to look at the avg torque data. Only two successful runs on the 7.3l*, so avg may be skewed slightly. 6.2L Avg torque =329.5ft/lbs 7.3L avg torque = 369.6ft/lbs Avg Delta= 40.1ft/lbs. %Delta = 12.2

That 7.3 killed the 6.2!!!!! Look at that curve! With the %20 drive loss that’s around 450hp to the crank!

That low end torque on the 7.3 is insane for a gas engine.

@BERPSU1

4 жыл бұрын

Maybe insane for "modern" gassers but a box stock GM 8.1 would put down a little over 400 ft lb @ 2000 rpm to the tires 15 yrs ago. I still have the dyno sheet from my own 8.1 to prove it.

I love these dyno videos.Good job TFL

The numbers don’t seem to make sense. The new 2020 is rated at +50hp at the crank compared to the smaller engine yet it only picked up about +30hp at the wheels compared to the old. The overall number isn’t important but the difference between the two is. It should be right around 50 difference. Something doesn’t add up.

The most interesting thing about this video is that is shows the dyno isn't overestimating nearly as much as it looked in the diesel video. That makes those diesel numbers look crazy. Also, I don't know what everyone was expecting from the 7.3. It was touted by ford as a fuel efficient towing and work engine with low end grunt the 6.2 didn't have. The mpg is still tbd, but so far it looks like it is exactly as described in the power department with plenty of room to continue upping the competition diesel truck wars style.

I still love my 6.2 it pulls everything I throw at it! It also helps that i have 5 star tunes in my truck too!

@robertpowers7856

4 жыл бұрын

So how much of a gain did you see with 5 star tunes? cold air intake?

@k9leadstheway531

4 жыл бұрын

What do you tow with your 6.2?

@rswany16

4 жыл бұрын

@@robertpowers7856 It is night and day difference. My truck is actually pretty darn quick now! I have and intake, bigger throttle body, exhaust, and im running 5 stars E85 tune. From my butt dyno it probably makes to the wheels what the factory says to the crank stock.

@danstennis1817

4 жыл бұрын

Does 5star have a way to defeat the advancetrac? I have a 2019 f250 6.2 and the advancetrac is going to get me stuck at my hunting club.

@rswany16

4 жыл бұрын

@@k9leadstheway531 i pull a 350 bushel grain trailer during harvest, the GCW is usually 33,000 pounds and it pulls it with no problem. It always has plenty of power, the only thing is i wish my truck had a little more weight to it to give a little more control.

I get so upset when they fire these things up and rev the piss out of them right away. It's so bad for them. But hey all of a sudden Andre is a dyno professional giving us his power predictions and telling the guys in the tuning shop what to do. (I think he's hanging around Roman too much and it's rubbing off) Nathan and the Canadian dude are the best and most professional journalists on the channel if you ask me.

@bobl.2213

4 жыл бұрын

A Competent Mechanic , who actually builds and works on Engines would never do that. Owners Manuals always have a break in procedure.

@billstewart2433

4 жыл бұрын

It might be torque that gets a truck moving but it's hp that gets you up a hill. And that is rather weak below 5,000 rpm! And how long will that 7.3 last running it floored and at high rpm's?

@Random12231

4 жыл бұрын

@@billstewart2433 Probably a fairly long time. The 7.3 was built to replace the old v10, and those engines go through hell and back living in U-Hauls and RV's. The power is low for it's size because it is built to be a low maintenance workhorse.

So the diesel is wildly underrated making nearly the flywheel numbers at the rear wheel. The “Godzilla” barely squeaks out its advertised hp & tq factoring in 20% drive loss. Disappointing..

@SMiller5488

4 жыл бұрын

I am the biggest fan of the 7.3 there is and those are my thoughts as well, the 2020 6.7 dyno numbers were insane, the 7.3 was not much more then the 6.2, pretty bummed.

If you drive the new 7.3, you can definitely feel the torque management pulling timing and throttle position as you go thru the gears. Guarantee, with a tune, it will pick up substantial power and fuel economy.

Go back and listen to the reveal at the auto show they did. Lead guy was talking about all the stuff they borrowed from the power stroke and the ecoboost. This engine is gonna respond really good to boost and I'm certain they built it to take turbos when diesel emissions get to strict. Cant wait to see what Hennessy does with this.

Gas mileage will be interesting

@TheCummins1212

4 жыл бұрын

Jake Schisler I’ve been curious on the mpg since the announced the 7.3 was coming out

@georgewashington938

4 жыл бұрын

might have to switch to kilometer per gallon to make the numbers look better

@user-tb7rn1il3q

4 жыл бұрын

Probably 10-15

@TheCummins1212

4 жыл бұрын

If it will do 16 hwy unloaded I’d buy one

@hollywoodv8

4 жыл бұрын

From all the various videos on KZread so far, I've seen reports from 13-18 avg mpg. Mine got built yesterday so just waiting on delivery.

You keep saying 20% drivetrain loss but I can’t believe there’s more than 15% Even 15% put the 6.2 at 395hp. That 7.3 is gonna be a beast with a tune to back off that torque management. That torque, the important number, is awesome. There’s a lot of programming in this truck for gas mileage reasons. That’s why the graph was moving around so much. Take it for a couple hundred mile highway loop so we can see that.

You could have put the same wheels and tires on each by changing one to the other.

8:21 for those who are lazy or in a rush

I aint a ford guy but iam liking the 7.3 percent work truck with that low end stump pulling power

Great to see info on the 7.3. For an extra liter (7.3 vs. 6.2), I anticipated greater gains in torque and horsepower. Ford may be self-limiting those numbers. But, even if they aren't, it could be that by not striving for greater gains there, they may instead strive for an improvement in fuel efficiency. An analogy is the old Cadillac engines. They were no match for other big blocks on power, but they achieved greater gas mileage, even with greater displacement (472& 500 cu. in.) and while moving a heavier car.

You guys were really struggling to hit the 10 minute mark on this one.

@Menstral

4 жыл бұрын

tsmall07 had to take my own KZread speed up to 1.75

@donleamon8653

4 жыл бұрын

They do on many of their vids. Most could be under 3 min and cover what we need to know.

I’ve been waiting on the Godzilla videos from you guys!

I have a 6.2 and it has been a great truck. Over 160k on it now and nothing has broken, it has never let me down and it handles everything I have thrown at it including 10,000 pounds of towing. Would recommend getting one used with low mileage.

Can’t wait to upgrade from my 2016 6.2 F350 to the 7.3!

You guys are making me want to trade my 2019 raptor for a 2020 F250 with tremor package and the 7.3

@RaceboyYT

4 жыл бұрын

Chris B. Do it

@kubeanie18

4 жыл бұрын

7.3 is coming to raptor in 2021 stay tuned

@JohnDoe-nz6bk

4 жыл бұрын

I've been checking prices on Ford 19-20 superduty and they're barely dealing in my area. At least ram and gm are taking 10,000 plus off. The max I've seen on Ford is 5 grand. The new 7.3? Forget about it, not dealing!

@norsemanix2358

4 жыл бұрын

John Doe Not sure if they’ll deal but they are getting the exact truck I would trade for in 3 weeks here in Colorado. Going to go drive it and see

@theveeb

4 жыл бұрын

@@JohnDoe-nz6bk For reference I just saw a brand new 2020 F250 SD with the 7.3 two days ago (Chicago western suburbs) discounted about $4K off. It was the only F250 SD with a 7.3L on the lot. It was gone (I assume sold) the next day! Otherwise, the 2020 F250 6.2 XLTs are being discounted about $5K here and Lariats with the 6.2L about $7500 off.

Love the new Godzilla motor...thanks Andre

I’d like to see that 7.3 matched up against the other two company’s large v8 offerings. I’m a Chevy guy, but that 7.3 ford looks like it has some awesome potential.

The 7.3l didnt have the numbers I thought but then again they were limited by speed and for the extra $2000 I say it's still worth it. Now with that being said I think I should change my mind from the 7.3 to the 6.7l. That new 2020 diesel is an underrated monster!

Can't wait to see this new 7.3L on the Ike Gauntlet!!

Great video as usual! I was expecting a lot more torque from the extra displacement of the 7.3 than just 40 ft pounds? Can you even feel 40ft lbs of extra torque? I thing this engine was designed for U Haul (cheaper to make, simple to maintain than a V-10) to be reliable versus a significant upgrade in HP and torque for the consumer market. Maybe Ford is sandbagging the performance so it doesn't infringe on the highly profitable diesel engine they offer?

@SMiller5488

4 жыл бұрын

You would have to assume.

@Prestiged_peck

3 жыл бұрын

There's a higher output version in bigger trucks that goes up to 475 ft-lbs, kinda like how the 250 powerstroke doesn't put out as much as the 350 and 450 versions. Edit to also say that at peak that's all you get, but you make close to peak torque at like 2500 RPm , and all the way out, while th 6.2 slowly builds until managing peak almost at redline, so the godzilla doesn't have to have the nuts revved off it to tow/haul, and the 6.2 does.

I think they are down playing the intake and exhaust setup. 20% is like 308hp. I'm excited to see this 7.3 do work. Good ol' pushrod motor

I’m a fan of of the 6.2 it does good for a gas engine. Can’t wait to try the Godzilla.

That thing sounds gooood!

I want to know the 7.3 L MPG god dammit that's all I'm waiting on to pull the trigger

@KoolCordell

4 жыл бұрын

The Tremor in this vehicle at a 70 mile an hour Cruise for over half an hour averaged 15 MPG

@onegoodturngetsmostofthebl7499

4 жыл бұрын

Who gives a shit. Nobody buys 7.1L of displacement then wonders what the fuel economy going to be. Count on 10 MPG. Anything more is a bonus.

@brandonkeithley7464

4 жыл бұрын

One Good Turn Gets Most Of The Blanket right? Especially when looking at the bull nose the guy has in his pic. I doubt that gets any mileage

@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980

4 жыл бұрын

@@brandonkeithley7464 this 84 ill have you know gets 18 highway 14 in town its a 6.9 idi 4 speed and yes it matters a lot to me i have 2016 with a 6.2 is i want to know if its worth it at all to upgrade

@Friedrich-Wilhelm-1980

4 жыл бұрын

@@KoolCordell thank you for the useful info most people keep saying just ragging on about why it shouldn't matter but when you are loaded half the time and unloaded the other half you don't want a truck that will be a hog all the time especially when you will live with it as a DD i have a 6.2 that i use for the mini doser and it gets 10 mpg weather im pulling or not that's why my old 6.9 have never been able to retire yet its not as fast but i save money on it

Man, that torque difference is great! I'd love to see that towing test.

Power Wagon vs Tremor on dyno... and GO!

This thing isn't "Godzilla" just yet....wait till the cam/heads & general "tail stroking" I can see it now: "bolt on a set of these Taraunasaurus Heads for King Kong Slinging Power!"

Do this with the ram Cummins High output, standard Cummins and 6.4hemi

@aaronclark6717

4 жыл бұрын

Firepunk diesel already compared the H/O cummins to the S/O cummins in a recent dyno video. Stock for stock, then both tuned. No gassers though. But you might check it out.

That 7.3 is going to love a tune

Peak Torque and hp on that 7.3 is coming in waayyyy earlier than the 6.2. Good news for those of us that use these trucks to work and tow mini excavators and skidsteers. I am 100% getting rid of my 2017 6.7 f350. The maintenance is murder on my net profits.

@Graveltrucking

4 жыл бұрын

David Suppa You are better off buying a medium duty dump truck and not tow with a pickup truck. A pickup barely handles a 3.5 ton machine. I’m hauling mini excavator from 1.5 ton to 6 tons and 8 ton midi. The 5 ton truck hauls this stuff without even thinking about it. Haul them on the truck or tow the 30,000lb tag trailer. We used to move the little equipment with a 5500 Dodge it sucked truck was overloaded.

@mexital1159

4 жыл бұрын

I know, but at the moment it is still my side gig. I don't have the room in my yard. I was hoping to just jump up to a tri-axle and tag along. Once I get this company on its feet. Oh the 350 has a dump body that is useless for anything other than styrofoam peanuts. Lol

Cool video, I feel like tfl gives Ford more of the special treatment than the do Chevy or Ram. Would’ve been cool to see this same test with the old Vortec 6.0 and the new 6.6 gas.

@NWI_Steel

4 жыл бұрын

The 6.6 is basically an evolution of the 6.0. Modernized with direct injection. What Ford did with the 7.3 big block was revolutionary (for them) changing their architecture going to pushrod cam in block.

@turbotransam1980

4 жыл бұрын

The 6.2 ford is a SOHC?

@NWI_Steel

4 жыл бұрын

@@turbotransam1980 Yep! Ford has been doing the overhead cam modular engines for 25 years, so this pushrod big block was a drastic change for them.

@stittyd

4 жыл бұрын

These episodes are sponsored by 5 Star Tuning. They only do Fords.

@turbotransam1980

4 жыл бұрын

Brad Diekow I look forward to seeing the 7.3 vs the GM 6.6 on the Ike gauntlet.

Review 2019 6.4hemi ram please. With the new 8speed

Godzilla powered Raptor is going to be nuts.

Not a ford guy but really like these dyno comparisons.

Can't go wrong either way, just go v8

@jrod264winmag

4 жыл бұрын

Yep screw diesel, too expensive and too many issues.

@fernando-sl7qm

4 жыл бұрын

I wish they brought back inline 6 cylinder big displacement

@Scrambler85

4 жыл бұрын

@@fernando-sl7qm fiat/ram is working on that very soon

@johnhill7480

4 жыл бұрын

@@fernando-sl7qm Try to find a clean 80s/90s 300 truck slap a turbo on it. I wish ford bring back a inline 6 too.

Why do you play music during the dyno run 🤬🤬

Great vid andre. Been watching you guys for years, love this channel. I'd really like if you put the camera/mic farther away from the exhaust when nabbing some sweet exhaust notes. You guys like to get close, and many times it baffles the mic. Please test out putting the camera/mic farther away. Thanks, looking forward to future vids!!

The colorado elevation takes a toll on the power output too. I wonder why manufacturers always go for displacement than forced induction on HD trucks.

WOW really dissapointing numbers on the 7.3 glad I went with the 6.7 powerstroke.

@KoolCordell

4 жыл бұрын

Woah what do you tow that's over 20k lbs?

@onegoodturngetsmostofthebl7499

4 жыл бұрын

Spot on Steve. The village idiots who are drooling over the 7.3L will be solely disappointed as soon as they hitch a trailer of any consequence to that truck.

@BEBNC1

4 жыл бұрын

@@KoolCordell Whoa have you noticed that 90% of the diesel trucks on the road are purely for enjoyment and status than being for work? So...nothing work w/ Steve wanting the 6.7 PS.

@KoolCordell

4 жыл бұрын

@@BEBNC1 seams like a real expensive hobby with a deprecating asset, that you are paying interest on. I genuinely thought all the guys wanting diesels were concerned about their businesses bottom lines. So these guys buy these monsters in the same way someone daily drives a twin turbo corvette with $40k under the hood?

Music should be off during power runs me thinks.

Gonna see how reliable it will be. As a diesel 7.3L owner idk if it will match the same reliability and people should know thing going in but yah I would definitely get one as a work truck if it proves reliable and the torque curve like it is. Good for plowing and towing most of what you’d need.

Pretty impressive for gasser and no doubt that new 7.3 will be much more efficient than the old 7.5 gasser from the early 1990s when I was a ford tech. That old 460 was a good engine though.

Pushrod power! That big LS did great! 🤣

I like to see a tuned supercharger 7.3 numbers!

@gregscott71

4 жыл бұрын

This engine seems like it's just begging for a procharger type setup with low boost 7 to 10 lb

I test drive a 7.3 yesterday that thing is bad to the bone 👍👍👍

Can not wait to see it when you add that Super Charger to the 7.3L!

With the weight savings of the f150 frame and the very similar numbers of the 5.0 V8, it really comes down to how much payload do you really need?

@wushock92

4 жыл бұрын

Very well put. Though the EcoBoost has impressive towing numbers, there is no way I would pull those numbers with a 1/2-ton. I want to comfortably tow, not white-knuckle tow.

@KoolCordell

4 жыл бұрын

@@wushock92 that and the vast majority of trucks on dealer lots are nowhere near 10000 lb towing capacity.

7.3 has a lot more torque in lower rpm range, made for towing

Can't wait to see this thing take on the Ike Gauntlet. That thing with the 10 speed in a real world test should be interesting.

I wish they would have called it something other than Godzilla. This is a commercial/fleet engine. Maybe Optimus or something that resembles dependability and size. Or release a performance version at launch with 650 HP and 700 lbs/ft

I wouldn't buy the first year of the heavy duty 10 speed. Ford used a raw aluminium housing in the trans, the company i work for just started putting a hard anodize on them for wear 2 months ago. I only drive ford, just sharing info.

@davidjames4677

4 жыл бұрын

So are you saying the hard anodized models won't be on the showroom floor for another year?

@chrisl7511

4 жыл бұрын

Should be in them now, i would say anything after jan 1st 2020 build date is fine, we started them in late October 2019, not sure when they started getting put in. We did a crap load every day though. Heavy duty 10spd is coming to the F150 also. Slightly smaller than the f250 obviously

@brandonhumphries3377

4 жыл бұрын

10 speed transmission in the mustang is already having issues. Bad issues!!!

@DS-fx2jn

4 жыл бұрын

@@chrisl7511 Whew...mine doesn't have a VIN yet. Good info. It's my understanding that they based the HD 10speed off the F-150 10speed with improvements. Know anything about that?

@chrisl7511

4 жыл бұрын

@@DS-fx2jn i heard they were basically the same just bigger in the HD. I was shocked when i heard the early ones were put in un-coated. I cant verify if they were used just on test vehicles, or if they made it a retail vehicle. If i had the money i would buy one with the 10spd. My 2011 6.2l super duty has been great 140k no problems.

So a newer bigger engine makes more power than a smaller older one?, I'm confused.

TFL ROCKS

Great video that tremor is a good looking truck especially the grey black combo going on.

That big beast will make massive power with an exhaust intake and tune. Can't wait to see what starts to happen once people start throwing twin turbo kits on them

I didnt know chumlee works at 5 star tuning.

Andre please always include how much torque and horsepower trucks have at 15 hundred to 2 thousand RPMs. This is where a work truck lives. 1 graph I looked at showed the 7.3 gas engine 400 pound pound feet of torque. At 15 hundred RPMs. Incredible.

6.2 - 6.4 - 6.6 - 7.3 , 3/4 ton 4x4 drag race with gearing as close as you can spec them. Then do the tow / mpg test ! After the test are all done, donate all 4 trucks as a tax write off :)