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@PeaceForIsrael122

19 күн бұрын

Yes. Braindead.

@Andy-kj1rc

19 күн бұрын

You need banning

@Limestone.1

19 күн бұрын

That caught me out, he’s a fan of the Grateful Dead. He’s a Deadhead.

@Fish_N_Chips_Dude

19 күн бұрын

*ALL MY COMMENTS ARE GONE. THIS CHANNEL ONLY. ALL OTHER CHANNELS ARE OK.*

If Nye Bevan & Tony Benn were around today they’d be purged by Starmer & his right wing faction.

@jcleaverchamberlinjr

19 күн бұрын

Right. I keep thinking that even Roy Jenkins wouldn’t be considered right-wing enough for these lunatics at this point, and he walked out on Foot

@rp1692

19 күн бұрын

Iirc Nye Bevan had the whip withdrawn on at least two occasions so the party wasn't a model of democratic tolerance even back then.

@adriftinaboat3452

19 күн бұрын

@@rp1692Indeed-NYE was bang on the money about ‘vermin’ though……😂

@sjhhej

19 күн бұрын

@@rp1692 Agreed, the Labour movement has always been hampered by the fact that the party it set up to represent workers in Parliament has been infiltrated by right wingers on the side of capital. Starmer's 'changed Labour party' is by far the worse example of this corruption, even worse than Bliar.

@BriarLeaf00

19 күн бұрын

Facts.

Out of 120 years Labour had only been in power for 30 years! Arguably the only radical government was in '45 bringing us the NHS, welfare state and building one million council homes. But only because there was a huge movement socialist outside. Labour has been a managerial party for capitalism when the Tories f up. Starmer has moved it firmly to the right. We have noparty for the people.

@VaucluseVanguard

19 күн бұрын

Reform is a people’s party.

@user-yi3gv6jb4p

18 күн бұрын

@@VaucluseVanguard Reform is a party for people who've given up on people.

@julesbrunton1728

18 күн бұрын

Left wing authoritarianism has more in common with right wing authoritarianism than it cares to admit

@jblazer2492

18 күн бұрын

Greens?

@harimauindia5775

18 күн бұрын

@@aminamangera4871 what happened 120 years ago? I'm not British

In 2019, Corbyn got a higher percentage of the vote than Miliband, Brown, Foot, or Kinnock in 1987.

@chriswatson3464

19 күн бұрын

And more votes than Starmer in 19. In 17 he got a lot more than both things.

@23715

19 күн бұрын

Didn't his holiness lie about being a Remainer?

@chriswatson3464

19 күн бұрын

@@23715 no he campaigned up and down the country. He also never argued for leave in his decades on the back bench. Although he never hesitated to criticise the EU when he disagreed with it. Blame Alan Johnson for leading the labour remain campaign.

@23715

19 күн бұрын

@@nickd4310 I thought Diane Abbott said he was a Leaver ?

@23715

19 күн бұрын

@@nickd4310 Didn't his holiness once work for RT the mouthpiece of a vicious torturing war criminal?

I certainly haven't become more Conservative as I have got older, I would never believe that business and things are more important than people.

@doggieclaude

19 күн бұрын

Same, I get more left with age. I don't want to leave a shitty mess for the next generations

@nicholawilson8555

19 күн бұрын

People before profit

@50-50_Grind

19 күн бұрын

The older I get the more I despise modern pop music and I could do without all that social media bs. Sometimes I whine about these things in public and it makes me sound like a conservative in the eyes of younger generations. But appearances can be deceiving LOL.

@firebyrd437

19 күн бұрын

I'm the same. In fact, I think I've become even more left wing if that's possible

@satisfaktionsfahig7296

19 күн бұрын

​@@firebyrd437depends where you start at. I startet out clearly on the left, moved further left and now i can neither imagine how i could move further left nor that i'd ever move back to the right.

My politics haven't changed over the last 40 years. I used to think I was centre right now it seems basic humanity means I am left wing.

@julesbrunton1728

18 күн бұрын

Basic humanity has nothing whatsoever to do with left/right political dualism

The Greens won in Bristol in the most ridiculously affluent middle class white area. Come the revolution!

@davecross4493

18 күн бұрын

The Greens aren't as left as you think. If they were in power, they would be more like Labour - because that's how you get power in the first place, by compromising with all voters.

@jerryalder2878

17 күн бұрын

The Greens have all the councillors in the wards of Ashley, Easton and Lawrence Hill. Not really ".. affluent middle class white " voters.

Ed Balls on the BBC said that deselecting Faiza Shaheen and letting IDS win was a price worth paying. Find the footage.

@PeleRana-pp6zc

19 күн бұрын

I have always despised him. He is so slimy and creepy!

@smj6710

19 күн бұрын

To be fair he said that's what they would be thinking inside Labour.

I'd never suggest this is indicative of anyone but myself, but as an older millenial I started off left and have only become moreso in my middle age. No property, no investments, no pension, no prospects, no future. You can line those facts up however you like, they still remain for so many people, and are guaranteed to exist in the short to medium term at least, unless we put up a proper challenge. This goes for everyone living in the capitalist hellscapes of "the west." Our bosses treat us like lost children and we oblige. Perhaps we could refuse to do so.

To help me recover from an eating disorder triggered by dwp sanctions, I went to stay with my Mom in Spain for 4 months in 2018. I faced a sanction of 3 months on my return due to being out of the country for more than 3 months, an anti-Immigrant rule brought in by Blair Labour governnment in 2003. Still struggling now. But hopeul that this new govt won't actively be trying to kill it's own citizens, oh sorry, subjects. Just staying alive feels rebellious!

The left isn’t just parliamentary politicians.

Harold Wilson kept us out the Vietnam War.

@fidomusic

19 күн бұрын

And created the Open University, which he regarded as his greatest achievement.

Benn is one of my all time heroes - if only we listened to him in the mid 1970s.. What a wonderful politician

This is fascinating historical context, thank you.

Owen and Andy two of the Guardians very decent journalist

If the people on the left of the labour feel uncomfortable in the labour party, why not start a new political party that represents themselves and Jeremy Corbyn better than what the labour party does?

@Shadowman4710

19 күн бұрын

You mean The Green Party?

@Jbaxter736

19 күн бұрын

@@Shadowman4710 I mean, start a new political party like what reformed it on the right of politics for the left-leaning members of the labour party.

@julesbrunton1728

18 күн бұрын

​@@Jbaxter736because that's not how democracy in the jungle works. Politics makes strange bedfellows.

Fascinating discussion. It gives me hope.

You’re 39?! Bro i thought u were like 25

You can say it was Left 4 Dead… Sorry I will show myself out now

@jontraz5993

19 күн бұрын

This is going to hell in a handbasket real fast!

@jontraz5993

19 күн бұрын

Also, maybe the chopper...... Maybe it's made of chocolate!

@rawbbingmysellph7464

18 күн бұрын

I came here to write this.. but I scrolled down first...

I have never experienced the diverse rallies, the enthusiasm, the younger people who joined the CLP, the hope and people prepared to do the groundwork that happened under Corbyn. It was amazing and had to be destroyed, didn't it?

Really interesting and enjoyable conversation. Owen - one of the things you said towards the end about how vindictive the Labour right is (very true) was that you feared they could use their position in government - not just the party - to try to smash the left. Could you elaborate on this?

37:22 This is why New Labour has put so much time and energy into purging the Left.

@23715

17 күн бұрын

@@marktaylor6491 So they can win elections?

Didn't Diane Abbott send her son to private school?

@silver4831

19 күн бұрын

She did.

The left needs to return to the wellbeing of people as their main purpose. Monopoly prices & rents need to be wiped out as a priority. The Chinese state owns 75% of everything thro state owned enterprises SOE & keeps everyday prices low for people - socialism with Chinese characteristics. A billion people raised out of poverty in 40 years sounds like socialism to me.

@VV-wc4bg

19 күн бұрын

Kept together only because of Chinese lack of cultural individualism, ethnocentrism and a brutal authoritarian state. Not going to work in a multi-culti Britain destroyed by the left.

@BENTWOONEZERO

19 күн бұрын

two thirds of the Chinese economy is privately owned.

@adriftinaboat3452

19 күн бұрын

Indeed-China lifted more people out of starvation than any other country on the planet-Russia not far behind after the 2017 revolution-it goes unreported in the West

@50043211

19 күн бұрын

You are praising an authoritarian regime which has gone full blown capitalist with a red coat or are we pretending now that people want to work 12h a day, up to 7d a week in sweatshops with NO UNION representation!? But lets stop here.

@frankieseward8667

19 күн бұрын

I'll gladly take it.

Great conversation trawling through some of the left versus right Labor history. Corbyn's 2019 as a "Goldwater moment" is a nice idea. Looking forward to reading Beckett's Searchers

What is very worrying is that twice as many adults didn't vote as voted for the Labour Party. Has anyone tried to find out what these people would vote for.

@plebjames

13 күн бұрын

Historically, and I suspect this is true of this election, it is disaffected Labour voters that tend to stay at home. Turnout was higher in 2017 when it felt like voting could actually lead to a change in direction

@michaelporter6341

13 күн бұрын

@@plebjames Perhaps a new party is needed that will lead to that change in direction. I think you are correct that it is disaffected Labour voters who stay at home when the turnout is 70%. The remaining 30% are still up for grabs. I suspect they are the poor and economically disenfranchised for whom there is no difference whether Labour or Tory wins.Any new party offering this 30% something will change things, along with a fairer voting system.

@ZhukovsBoots

13 күн бұрын

No point voting now, Blue Tories, Red Tories, Yellow Tories, Turquoise Tories. I'm more amazed that anyone still does.

The left in the UK must far more focussed on domestic challenges and need to understand that palestine is one important topic but not the only one.

@adriftinaboat3452

19 күн бұрын

We’re arming Israel-meanwhile no money for the NHS …

@aminamangera4871

19 күн бұрын

That issue has opened up the lack of democracy, hypocrisy of rules based order, money for weapons and wars but not for our NHS and those going hungry. It has shown the power of US and how UK are too privatising everything, welcoming Blackrock to buy up our infrastructure. Also the power of fossil fuel cartels and the climate crisis These issues are linked. A genocide is taking place funded, armed and given political cover by the UK and it's allies. It is not a marginal issue.

I was born in 47. I have never moved right. I was prepared to give centrism.under Blaira go and became dissolutioned as it became obvious after 2005 that iyt was not centrist at all , it was becoming conservative.

There's a fundamental question to ask, What is the point of the Labour right? Wouldn't some of these people be more mental well-adjusted and maybe even nicer people if they were, Conservatives?

thanks!! interesting discussion;

I'm annoyed with the Greens for standing in every constituency, especially Ilford North, where Leanne Mohamed lost by only 528, much less than the number of votes won by the Greens. If the Green candidate had not stood then Leanne might have won.

@silver4831

18 күн бұрын

All parties are out for themselves.

I'm a gen z who is left and I'm an American socialist I care more about people than myself even if I do it's hard but I'm still glad to be a humanist I care more about people than business I'm glad I care people including those like that in Palestine.

It’s always been dead in the head.

Great upload.

This guy lives in the past. Is social liberalism really going to work in a world of increasing class contradictions both globally and locally.

I think the country needs a slight shift to the traditional left. But its probably not going to happen. So more people will vote Reform.

Owen I know this is a completely irrelevant point and so out of context, but your skin is BANGING, mate. What do you use on it?

I really think --- in view of the threat now posed by the far right (fascists) in several of the Western democracies (including here in the U.S.) --- that we need a strong center left/left wing movement that can elect more responsible, politically savvy, progressive-minded people into government here in the U.S. and Europe and show the electorate that they can govern sanely and sensibly, while delivering to the general public much of what they have proposed in their manifestoes or platforms. After all, here in the U.S., we have had the New Deal and much of the Great Society initiatives and programs through which millions of Americans have benefited for close to the last 90 years. And in the UK, you had your beginnings of what later came to be the welfare state with the introduction of the 1909 Peoples' Budget by David Lloyd George. And of course, the progressive changes brought to the UK thanks to the Atlee government in the immediate post-World War II era.

@Historia.Magistra.Vitae.

17 күн бұрын

_" the far right (fascists)"_ There is no Far-Right in any mainstream Western politics in general, unless we count Argentina. Also Fascists were Far-Left socialists.

Glenn Greenwald; What the UK and French elections mean for establishment politics in Europe

Going on safari. Made me chuckle and spot on . Incuriosity.

You've done so many vids today it seems?? I can't keep-up.. maybe say more but I need some sleep.... so briefly I absolutely loved this discussion! It had that intellectual edge I sometimes miss & was just an encyclopaedic-roller- coster down memory lane (for some!). We are literally in need of this book because we're RIGHT NOW trying to work out what to do with all the energy & connectivity of the election. I campaigned for an Independent & we don't want to disband but not sure how to proceed, 😢should we be a party or not, are we joining-up with others or not? It's all to play for & reinvent & the excitement you discussed with Corbyn's previous campaign REMAINS! The right accused Livingston of WASTING MONEY on projects for minority groups but we created the concept of Black on Black (produced a magazine of the same name) which was the little-known precursor to Eastern Eye & I had that on my CV instead of clearing woman! Lastly how did you go all over-it-in & out & round & never ONCE mention that MURDOCH'S right- wing press was the REAL REASON LOONEY LEFT STUCK for so long & continues to this day! MARKETS & MONEY runs everything SURELY.. Trevor Chin et al bankrolled Blair & now Starmmer.. Israel lobby aside money talks & what Harrold Wilson was told after he won as to why he wasn't going to be able to put his policies into place holds true for any left-wing leader with socialist leanings. Whether they're voted in or not the rich right-wing in US & UK are the ruling elite....Trump doesn't have to be on the Whitehouse to run things he's proved this... Great chat guys & sounds like a must buy book ...bless-up Owen jones luvzya ❤

My grandad he Lord Provost Glasgow city council in 1970 to (Labour win 1997) he lost his seat SNP in 1977 local government elections in Scotland he old Labour party he working class or middle class long time ago. Phil O Rourke. He Irish councillor in Glasgow city he wealthy Thomas.

@AnEnemy100

19 күн бұрын

Eh?

The Greens saved Streeting to a near certain defeat to a British Palestinian. They should have done the decent thing and stood down.

Soon

Lets not forget Dennis Skinner, The left is alive and well.

it is so unfair to say that there was rising living standards in 1997 because of a credit bubble that later went pop! This is wrong. I was there. at uni in 97. There were rising living standards, homes were affordable, rent was affordable, uni was free, and interest rates were perfectly norammal and affordable at 6 or 7%. The credit bubble came afterwards, unaffordable housing came from Labour. and the Lonon that I knew: as[iring working classes, some wanting a home and lucrative career, some wanting to become artists, actors, filmm akers was absolutley doable. There was confidence. That ended. And New Labour ended it What is gentrification? The end of free spirit adventurous aspirational. I detest New Labour waffling on about aspiration. they fecking killed it

Year after Year Benn would give fantastic speeches tearing the Labour Party then end by saying join Labour. This tribalism has stopped the left but not the ruthless right from pushing their agenda.

My favourite Tony Benn quote: "I left Parliament to concentrate on politics". Is "ism" a relatively new thing in British politics? I hear a lot about Thatcherism and Corbynism but I don't remember anyone talking about Wilsonism or Heathism back in the day. Thought Andy was going to give us a tune!

@fidomusic

19 күн бұрын

Carolyn Lucas said the same thing, quoting Benn.

Well, no but. The old left had Leon Trotsky, Rosa Luxemburg and Antonio Gramsci. What do we got now? Jeremy Corbyn and AOC 😂😂😂

Just bought the book, thanks for the heads up. Though I lack space, so I have to get Amazon Kindle books, I hope Amazon leaves enough for Andy 😅

Love the cat, Owen! Siamese cats are really smart!

Labour left leaders, Benn, Livingston, Corbyn have led the UK left. "New" Labour is limited by their out dated view of UK workers. They have no conception of the gig ecconomy, zero hour contracts, or the precariate they produce. Politics is swinging decisively to public ownership, common wealth, and away from the "market" free or not. The label for which an electorate votes, eg Green, Independed, etc, is not as significant as the pokicies and integrety of the people standing. It takes communication to spread messages into a time poor, attention deprived voters. Fortunately we have the tools, smart phones and alt media, to reach and engage electorates.

Are you going to talk about galloway?

@Shadowman4710

19 күн бұрын

He lost. What is left to say? He's pretty much finished and he's not a member of the modern left anyway.

It is dead. I used to proudly say I was left, but it has been warped and corrupted with people fighting the wrong battles.

@ramentraveler7099

12 күн бұрын

What are the "right battles" for you? Seems like if you want to generalize the broad left as all fighting the wrong battles, you were never left in the first place.

John Macdonalds moved to the right as shadow Chancellor but we had a vibrant critical movement of different economists which led is still there but more diffused.

If there is no Left, there cannot be a Right, correct?

I don't have the patience to wait through 50 minutes of reminiscing about the 60's through the 80's for two minutes of current events. I'm genuinely curious about the current state of leftist affairs inside the UK but, I'm ten minutes in and tapping out. If someone can give me a timestamp where they start talking about things that matter now I'll try this again later.

Maybe older people don't shift to the right, they just become more cautious. That can mean voting for the moderate left over the radical right.

@silver4831

18 күн бұрын

I was real left wing and accepting of all, this all dies when you realise certain communities literally want you dead and want to remove democracy for theocracy.

Are you going to talk about life outside the labour party? What now?

Yes it's dying as farright implement their ideas using those same fragile reasons from what socialism was seen as a social and human necessity

It depends how you define the left. Neither labour nor the German Social Democrats are left.And the real left like Diem 25 is weak. Many young people unfortunately vote nationalist

@ 48 mins the most tragic story of the left ever - i fear the future

I have always been left wing, and am in the Labour Party. People who are left wing are welcomed in the Labour Party. This is your home.

@sososoprano1

19 күн бұрын

So why were so many potential Labour candidates, hard working and well-liked locally, blocked from standing because they were left wing?

@peace-now

19 күн бұрын

@@sososoprano1 Because they made statements which were damaging to the Party. We all know what we shouldn't say. Being left wing also means be polite and considering others.

@sososoprano1

19 күн бұрын

@@peace-now - no, that’s not what happened. Everyone should be able to disagree about policy, discuss matters, then hopefully come to an agreement. Wilson understood that by having a diverse cabinet, better policy was likely to result because it meant that people had to think things through more deeply. Those candidates that were blocked from standing were Labour stalwarts, working hard for Labour and for their communities. Greg Marshall, for instance, who was one of the first to be blocked, didn’t say anything that was damaging to the party. That’s why the CLP officials resigned when he wasn’t allowed to stand simply because he wasn’t a right winger.

@sososoprano1

19 күн бұрын

@@peace-now - in any case, supporting genocide is FAR more damaging to the party than disagreeing with one or two policies.

@peace-now

18 күн бұрын

@@sososoprano1 No one I know of in the Labour Party supports genocide. It is certainly not Labour policy. Anyone accusing the Party of this would not be welcome in the Party with these views.

Labour always subscribed to all the imperialist bs. He " did one thing little bit left' is sickening.

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IMO... the left should focus on providing the economic basics: education going in; livable wage/affordable housing once in, and universal single payer pensions going out; health care (including drugs) as a right at all times; state ownership of natural resources and basic infrastructure. They should just STFU about identity and cultural and the grab-bag of "personal rightgs to [fill in the blank].

Labour Right support Israel lobby..possibly tricky for these 2 guardian journos to discuss

Meeting you with a View To A Kill (Voltaire)

As the white middle class go left the white working class go right. Funny old world.

Starvarism

Left is Best

This man is so beautiful! I want to put my face next to the arch of his foot!!

I don't think Owen Jones has quite understood what is meant by "the left is dead" in the Platypus sense of the term.

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Does George Galloway get a mention?

@IMBlakeley

18 күн бұрын

As a self serving narcissist?

@SC-bp5lq

18 күн бұрын

@@IMBlakeley a mention as one of the few significant left-wing parliamentarians in recent UK history. "Self serving" but probably a lot less so than most UK politicians, since he clearly could have acquired far more personal power (and wealth) if he'd taken a different line.

@notekase4691

18 күн бұрын

I think owen has an intense dislike for george. I can understand it based maybe on personality. But on this channel the workers party of britain just doesn't exist.

@silver4831

18 күн бұрын

​@@notekase4691In politics it doesn't exist too. The guys a absolute loon.

coz he was wrongly accused of anti-semitism ya naff

I was very happy to see Hilary Benn become NI Secretary, I do like it when they send us an adult !!

Really enjoyable to hear you guys agree with one another for an hour (jk)

I love listening to Owen. It must be a similar experience to going to Bedlam hospital in the 18th century to see the screening loons.

@user-yi3gv6jb4p

18 күн бұрын

I imagine that sounded funny in your head

How do most of you guys still make profit, even with the downturn of the economy and ever increasing life standards

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If Biden wins, yes.

@AlphaCentCom

19 күн бұрын

As opposed to who, Trump?

@ryanm7097

19 күн бұрын

@@AlphaCentCom Yes. If genocide is allowed to go electorally unpunished by the 'left', for fear of a Donald Trump presidency, I think it's the final nail in the coffin for left-wing politics.

@silver4831

17 күн бұрын

​@ryanm7097 You activists throw that word around without meaning. While looking a blind eye to what Hamas want. This is why people hate far left activists.

You could say both left and right is dead, all we have is a nuanced centre. That's if you insist on seeing politics as a left right thing

@cfor8129

19 күн бұрын

Are you from a different universe

@wesleystreet

19 күн бұрын

Except... no?

here in England the left is beaten, broken, divided and still sulking Corbyn lost twice

@threedoodles

19 күн бұрын

I think after Starmer's performance at NATO, along with the rest of the warmongers, we soon won't have to worry about anything.

@steveturner609

19 күн бұрын

@@threedoodles- Agreed! Starmer is extremely worrying right now, Authorising the release of U.K. Weapons to be used against Russia??? This is a truly dangerous despot, he might well embroil us in a War with Russia….. and that won’t end well for the U.K…..especially if it escalates to a Nuclear Confrontation, we would be totally wiped off the face of the Earth!!!

@Shadowman4710

19 күн бұрын

And yet Corbyn is still there and the Greens are on the rise.

@sososoprano1

19 күн бұрын

“Sulking” isn’t the right word because that implies that we weren’t allowed something that was bad for us. There’s still a sadness, though, that we lost the chance to make the country noticeably better for all.

@23715

19 күн бұрын

Blair and Starmer are winners. The far left hate winners.

I’m conservative and I’m socialist so does that make me “left?” Not in the least.

@user-xd7dk3oy3q

19 күн бұрын

Your schizophrenic!🤣

@Helzakath

19 күн бұрын

You're either an old-school Conservative, before Maggie Neoliberalised it, or you're the strangest person in the world lol... Smart and caring enough to be a Soclialist, dumb and gullible enough to be a Conservative at the same time lmao.

@mrcocoloco7200

19 күн бұрын

What Conservatives believes do you believe in?

@cfor8129

19 күн бұрын

Do you know what any of those words mean

@assassindelasaucisse.4039

19 күн бұрын

You're confused.

No, just totally useless.

If you choose left or right you are the problem especially now 😢

@wesleystreet

19 күн бұрын

LOL, "enlightened centrism".

@adriftinaboat3452

19 күн бұрын

The NHS is left wing

@nicholawilson8555

19 күн бұрын

@@wesleystreet hardly

@sososoprano1

19 күн бұрын

That makes no sense whatsoever.

@nicholawilson8555

19 күн бұрын

@@sososoprano1 we have a 2 party system who serve the same masters and it needs to stop it's making sense all over the world so research and it will make sense

Owen, have you given up on the poor innocent children in G A Z A?

@assassindelasaucisse.4039

19 күн бұрын

Everytime one of you jokes about children's deaths, more people become pro Palestine. You clearly don't understand humanity anymore.

@ellengran6814

19 күн бұрын

Politicians in the West dictates the future of Israel. As long as we vote for globalists, nothing will change.

Irresponsible click bait. I'm disgusted by this video title. Add a time when both France and the UK voted in left-leaning candidates. And yes I'm aware of the inherently have problems. Add America is trying desperately to refocus on a candidate that can take down Donald Trump. And this is your response? How hurting for viewers are you. This is just sad

@queerlyautistic7008

19 күн бұрын

The title literally refers to claims that the left is dead as 'nonsense', so I'm confused what the issue is?

@johnpullen3729

19 күн бұрын

UK voted in left-leaning candidates??? Missed that one...

@cfor8129

19 күн бұрын

I mean, the answer is clearly no...

@assassindelasaucisse.4039

19 күн бұрын

Have you even watch the video?

@adriftinaboat3452

19 күн бұрын

Left leaning-😂😂😂😂😂-you’ve shifted so far right-Reform are now considered left wing

Owen, did you join the LPYS?

So, Owen..you are an independent now, I trust?😮

@adriftinaboat3452

19 күн бұрын

He’s a true humanitarian-that’s more important

@fidomusic

19 күн бұрын

He supports Greens and progressive independents.

It isn't dead. It's just unelectable. Very much like the US, the UK public are naturally right of centre. The problems emerge when the far left act like the far right. We've seen this with you, Owen. Obsessing on wedge issues like Gaza. Actively campaigning to keep the tories in by undermining Labour on issues where the UK has absolutely no influence. It was petulant and childish, especially as you appear to have done absolutely nothing beyond talk about these issues. To remind you..4.3 million children, that's 30%, are living in poverty in the UK. 1 in 20 don't even have a bed to sleep in. I think you've burnt you bridges with Labour and have made yourself politically homeless. Well done!