Is The Ginkgo65 Better Than The Vega?
I mixed up the case foam vs. no case foam text on the video - FIRST IS WITHOUT, SECOND IS WITH!
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Board: Wuque Studio x M•ONE Ginkgo65 in Green x Black
Board insulation: Case foam, no PCB foam, PE Foam
Plate: FR4
Keycaps: GMK Minimal with icon mod kit
Switches: Lubed and filmed H1s and Deskey films
Stabilizers: Gateron Stabilizers (they're not worth it) lubed with 205g0 and holee modded
Mat: randomfrank p x novelkeys topo mat
This board has been starting a movement - a lot of people are excited for the $249 price point for a keyboard that seems like an upgraded Vega. Is it better, is it worse? In this video I review the Ginkgo65 and tell you whether or not it's worth its price tag.
Let me know what you think of the review in the comment section below!
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If my YT sub count beats my fiancee's # of IG followers (21,701) tonight, she'll take me out to Kang Ho-Dong Baekjeong KBBQ I believe in u also if you want to support the enemy her IG is instagram.com/archela WE DID IT AND GOT THE KBBQ i'm also gonna use this post to say that the first sound clip was WITHOUT case foam and the second was WITH case foam.. I mixed up the text.
@cheeks7001
2 жыл бұрын
Mago
@emp850
2 жыл бұрын
Enjoy that KBBQ!
@Hahnck750i
2 жыл бұрын
congrats on the KBBQ dinner lol
@ee1yd
2 жыл бұрын
well?
@chuck3599
2 жыл бұрын
Oof didn’t even realize I wasn’t sub’d. Thanks for putting out the content, and hope y’all enjoyed some cheese corn tonight!
Early congrats on the wedding, Andy! Take your time to deal with burn-out, and I think I can speak for the majority when I say we'll all be happily and patiently waiting for your next stream or video whenever you're ready. Love the content as always, and thank you for all your hard work!
Hope the wedding goes well! Been enjoying the review vids
@riceoverwife
2 жыл бұрын
ye
@deathstrom5085
2 жыл бұрын
Hey bro I love your vids so much even tho this is lit just a comment😂
I mixed up the case foam vs. no case foam text on the video - FIRST IS WITHOUT, SECOND IS WITH!
praying that we get this man’s to more followers than his girl. Also, really really thorough video man. Appreciate it!
seeing u in the sub feed is always a pleasure
@joshlim3264
2 жыл бұрын
Cldnt agree more
One of the best MK content indeed. All the best wishes for the upcoming wedding. May all goes sweet and well Andy!
Damn I love the look of this board, especially the white one with the copper bottom just looks so so clean
Burnout is REAL! Great review as always and good luck on that wedding planning!
congratulations on the wedding! your videos are always a treat and the work is always evident and appreciated. hope you get some good R&R and enjoy that married life!
Congratulations on the wedding! Sorry that it's all burning you out, and hope that you can take all the breaks you need! Be generous to yourself and your partner -- YT, streaming, and keyboards can wait. Also, so tempted by this keyboard thanks to your review.
So happy with my Ginkgo that I finally got to build yesterday, and I have this video to thank for it! Thank you Andy
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
i'm glad i could help!
Andy congrats on the wedding. Thank you for all the content this past year.
info is always top notch, congrats on your wedding man!
Absolutely amazing review! Definitely one of my favourite keyboard reviewers. I hope your wedding and all the planning goes well!
Take time for yourself man, you've been going hard and it's greatly appreciated. Congrats on the upcoming wedding!
Solid review Andy, best wishes and congrats on the upcoming wedding!
Great video as usual. Enjoy the time leading up to your wedding and the actual day itself dude!
Take care of yourself buddy. Really appreciate you. Wish you the best with the wedding and beyond.
Another excellent video!!! I am really excited about this board and hearing it compares to a Vega?!?!!! EVEN BETTER!!! I am holding out hope that I can get my hands on a Vega (...someday), but this is for sure a "must buy".
Loving the reviews so far, very thorough yet straight to the point. I'm not the biggest fan of the look but this board definitely seems like great value for both sound and feel. Also congrats on the upcoming wedding! Take care of yourself and be careful with burnout.
Amazing contents as always! and congrats on winning them KBBQ, it must've been so deli...yum :p
Congrats on the wedding! I hope you get some good rest during your break. Burn out sucks
I really didn't care for the green when I first saw this gb, but after seeing it in a video I feel the opposite way. Thanks for the review Andy, and congrats on the wedding!
Love the video, and the breakdown at the end, money! thanks Andy
Congrats on the sub dub and early congrats on the wedding, dude! And you do you in the weeks coming up, burnout is real
another banger video. love the way you do these keyboard reviews.
Seems like great value for the sound you’re getting
Interesting with the pe foam, it sounds a lot more poppy without actually changing the sound of the switch. The pitch stays the same overall.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
I'm also surprised the PE foam didn't obliterate the sound
@XHolyPuffX
2 жыл бұрын
The individual pads have a different sound than the full PE sheets.
@XHolyPuffX
2 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-ng3sc Right, the pads are thinner.
@XHolyPuffX
2 жыл бұрын
@@Andrew-ng3sc I got some of them since posting the comment. They are thinner than the PE foam sheet I had on hand, but only because the cells in the pads' foam are more compressed and dense. FWIW I am using the Thockpop pads instead of KBDFans switch pads.
Good luck with the wedding!!!
I'm definitely one of those who'd prefer PE foam in because I like that glassy sound. But I can understand where you're coming from where especially if you have more than one keyboard, it'd suck if they all just sound the same.
This keyboard would look PERFECT with GMK Botanical
Love how the bezels look! Obsessed with that green too. If i didnt have so many 65s I’d definitely consider copping one!
Mate your mental health and wedding and relationship are far more important than being 'productive' and satisfying the demands of online strangers. Take care of yourself and I hope you feel better about making content soon, not for our sake but for your own enjoyment and needs
Great content Andy 👌
A keyboard that sounds good with PE foam, is an okay keyboard. A keyboard that sounds good without PE foam, is a good keyboard. A keyboard that sounds good in both configurations, is an awesome keyboard.
That looks super smooth
Oh shit! This keyboard is cleeeeean, I'm going to try and pair this with KAT Space Dust! Thanks for the heads up! Love the idea of a cheaper 65 that sounds similar to the Jelly Epoch!
E-white copper Ginkgo so lit, would build it with no foam because it sounds joyless with anything more than plate or case foam
great vid and board will be copping it
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
it's a banger you won't regret it!
With the extras release coming, would you rate this over the qk65? Both are quite similar I’d assume.
You talked a lot about hollowness in this board, but how hollow is the Sun68? I haven't heard any hollowness in your or others soundtest.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
sun68 wasn't hollow either
Thank you Andy, very cool!
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
Very welcome
interest has been checked
Very happy to see it sounds good without the pe and pcb foam for me i would probably use the pcb and case foam and call it a day but it's very nice even without that's always great what I love is even adding the pe foam it didn't take away from the switches finally as people see they are finding ways to add it and not take away anything just add a nice sound to it lol
Andy take care of yourself. You are one of the top content creators in the hobby. Peace
Thanks and enjoy the wedding! Have a good break! Would this work better with Linear or Tactile switches?
@stefanusrianto8781
2 жыл бұрын
i'd say linear since it's bouncy feel. For tactile to really feel the bump, usually you'll want stiffer board
The board that uses pe foam yet somehow doesn't sound like it. But I mean this in a good way it just added more pop to it which I loved. It retains the switches sound fully tbh lol.
low energy andy still delivers
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
twss... wait is youtube gonna demonetize me for that comment
Nice vid love those spacebars
KZread randomly showed me a typing video one time and now it recommends these board videos all the time. Pretty fascinating stuff. Does anyone know a cheap bluetooth board thats on the quieter end? Using a membrane keyboard at the moment
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
kbd67 lite bluetooth is probably the most accessible option afaik
@Herogaze
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen cool thanks for the reply, I'll check it out
I kove how even when you added the pe foam it didn't sound like pe foam just allowed a little more pop through just shows these companies are learning how to add pe foam without changing the sound to much it retains the switch sound alot
Kinda sad nobody built the board with aluminum plate yet, I'd be curious about the sound profile difference compared to the stock PC and FR4.
Burnout is real, take your time and enjoy yourself! Congrats on the wedding and I hope it goes well!
Congrats on your wedding! Do you think the board is overall quiet compared to its comparable? Thank you!
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
it's not a loud gasket mounted keyboard
@junbumkim5964
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen Would you say its quieter than vega? Sorry for the questions. It is physically hard to tell without owning one.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
I don’t have a Vega here. There’s sound tests of Vega on my channel you can compare to
@junbumkim5964
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen I see. Thank you so much for your response. I ended up buying sangeo after your video and I am really happy with it. I heard that you are going through a lot these days. I hope good luck with everything.
I wonder how this board will sound with sp meteor whites in them, can't wait to get my hands on this (:
man im sucker fo the pe foam. i think that the sound is really fun.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
it's nice that it's not a requirement for keyboards to function properly.. so you can decide if you like it or not
When you were flashing through 3 keyboards, there was one in the end that had a rotary on the left side. What is the name of that keeb?
Hey I think the keycaps are epbt gok x bow and not gmk minimal 😅🤔
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
Shade made it look weird
Actually this board is made by M.ONE lab (formerly known as Besides Studio) from China, Wuque is the international vendor.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
That’s in the description
I really want to find this board and get one.
Its really sounds "PE foamed" with PE foam. Actually PE foam ain't bad for both KZread typing test and actual typing sound, just as he said, its sound pretty similar. Without PE foam less snappy but I like the more unique sound (probably more fun on choosing different switches with really different sounds like old days). I vote for without PE foam.
Definitely without pe foam it sounds quite good, especially for thst price. Very interested
It's great that this can compare to the vega, especially at this price point. Sound-wise, do you think it bears any resemblance to the Vega?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
Maybe one day you’ll have time to watch the video I made
@riceoverwife
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen Ok, i'll be more specific, is it possible for me to replicate the sound of your vega with inks? rly interested in it
I would just throw some thin packing foam myself. I liked the no PE foam sound personally.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
the thin poron is already pretty good, can't imagine something thinner having any kind of effect
What's the board shown at 2:25? The one with the knob to the left corner
Anybody knows the other 3 keyboards Andy showed in the video? Btw congrats on the wedding Andy!
The green color is difficult to grasp from pictures and the video here. Some sequences like around 5:43 make it look deep lush green, somewhat sparkly, where like on the typing tests it looked mat and dull like an old military tank would be painted green. So what is the actual color? Or would it be safer to just get the black?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
The green isn’t sparkly. The shot from the sound test is an indoor setting. It’s mostly darker. Green no matter what the lighting is hard to match. Get black if you’re concerned with matching and don’t have a plan
Take your time man. Burnout is hard and having therapy made it better for me. Take care of yourself!
kinda sounds like my bakaneko (65). It's very muted and very creamy and deep, thocky. it has lavender switches and i actually prefer it without foam.
Hello, is it better than the QK65? thanks for the video
@AndyVNguyen
Жыл бұрын
Lmao the qk65 has a cooler weight. Gingko has the two tone thing going. Both don’t sound very different
hye Andy. Which typing experience and sound do u prefer on GInko or mode65 regardless of their price? Help me please.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
The price matters a lot though. You need to pick if you want a top mount or a gasket mount to pick between the two. I prefer plateless so yea
which bag is that behind the Ginkgo65? Just joined the GB and I’m looking for a bag for it!
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
it's the case that came with the kbd67 lite
Don’t want to ask this but… Do you think this is more muted then the Mode65?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
gonna be quieter than the mode65 i feel. but if you use the silicone dampener then they're both gonna be quiet
@riceoverwife
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen thanks for the info! If you don't mind me asking, which do you personally prefer? (disregarding price)
Hope their PCB QC is better than with the Ikki68 Aurora...
anyone know what mat is that under the keyboard on 4:01?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
Keebmat keebmat.com/discount/ANDY use code "ANDY" 5% off
will raeds fit good with this board?
Is the flex the same even with the case foam? I like my boards with the most flex I can get haha
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
The case foam is thin and had cutouts for the kailh hotswap. The flex is definitely still there when using it
@Archurus
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen Ah, thank you so much! With the FR4 plate, would you say the flex is comparable to the Vega's? PS : We need Vietnam Andy more HAHAHAHA
That intro 💀
Do higher end boards like chimera or keycult boards have hollowness?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
chimera and keycult did not have hollowness. but there are nicer/expensive keyboards that have hollowness also
Gingko65 or Mode65? I know they have different mounting system. But, both seems to have similar? sound color.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
The ginkgo sounds way more gaskety than the mode
@joshuapark9796
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen Thank you Andy! Best wishes on your wedding!
Whats the difference between a fr4 plate and a carbon fiber plate?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
just a diff sound. cf a little stiffer i think
Is there a estimated shipping time for these
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
ginkgo65.com/ gb page is live now
Did you change the stabs or were they stock?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
lubed gateron stabs
@yellow-hx1te
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen cools, thanks for letting me know
So many plate choices. Which to go for?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
Depends on the switch you’re gonna use
@joshuayeong
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen I went PC + Alpaca for my Ikki68 Aurora. Might try Boba U4T for the Ginkgo65 or swap it around (meaning U4T for the Ikki68 then Alpaca for Ginkgoi65)
@joshuayeong
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen Any recommendations? Or is FR4 safe in general?
Still waiting for my element g67 so i guess I'll skip this one. It sounds nice but the "stepped edge" just isn't for me
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
def a preference thing! the element is def a cleaner look
I really want to get this board bc i love the sound and price but i just cant get it because i dont like the aesthatics.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
at least it hits a good price point
where were you born(just curious)
Shut up about your coffee, it's 7pm and now I want coffee dammit.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
Just get something light.. like a Turkish coffee or a Vietnamese coffee.. what's the worst that could happen?
If i currently have a kbd67 lite would this be a direct upgrade?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
Yes!
@alanl6760
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen Now the choice got harder, will you be doing a review on the bubble 75 soon? I watched your twitch vod but couldn't make a decision from that. If you had to choose the ginkgo65 vs bubble75 which would you choose? Or would you recommend waiting for the jelly epoch rerun? Thanks and love your vids!
I bought the mode 65 the other day lol
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
oof well at least mode will come faster
Andy New Yen and a keyboard from Woo Queue studios
Damn so does this mean it’s time to cancel my mode 65 and go for this gb. I’m at the same spot with the switches couple months ago 🥴. Please help 🥲
@ceementality
2 жыл бұрын
Depends are you okay with waiting
@ceementality
2 жыл бұрын
Longer for gingko
mãi ủng hộ anh
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
cam on
Wuque would be pronounced more like “woo chew-eh”. Chew is kinda in between chew & choo (like a choo choo train).
I think vega has a bit more of a pronounced pop, but it sounds great
This or Mode65 for max flex?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
This will be more flexible imo
@gozu3454
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen thank you Andy, Mr. 14 Karat appreciates your answer
Like with the PE foam more
Why only 22k subs?
This or the mode 65?
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
top mount or gasket? the choice is yours
@thedankest1974
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen I meant from a build quality perspective.
@AndyVNguyen
2 жыл бұрын
@@thedankest1974 your question was literally "or" lol they both have build quality that fits their price point
@thedankest1974
2 жыл бұрын
@@AndyVNguyen Sounds good. Thanks for the hard work you put on these videos! Appreciate it :)