Man I appreciate this video a lot! As a university student that joined the hobby around the height of the alpacas, I never really gotten the time nor opportunity to mess around with them and even look into JWK switches because of the price. I eventually got too confused with all the recolors and variants that it got too overwhelming. Love how simple and concise the video is as it cleared up a lot of confusions, cheers!

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Yeah the popularity of JWK switches has been a blessing and a curse. From my POV as a creator I feel like a lot of creators are doing switch reviews at every drop to catch the hype.. but personally if I'm not buying and using these switches I can't recommend them. Honestly I still have mauves today and use them lol. Still a great all around switch. Glad you the content could help! It's time for me to start dumping the information I've retained over the years so people can learn also

This video has needed to been made for a long time 🙏

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Happy to be of service

One of the most interesting videos you've ever done here. Very informative. Please do more.

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you like them! I have a lot more in the brain I just have to structure into videos.

Very informative! Everyone can benefit from these types of videos. Appreciate the effort!

Great video as usual! Really like the deepness you talk into these

Wow, Thank You for this video! I was super confused on the whole history of JWK and this really cleared it up, also thank you for being real about the green snake switches!

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Glad it was helpful!

3:10 this is why I prefer christolube 129 to krytox 205 because christolube improves the smoothness still while still keeping more of the switches original sound.

@zivens.2407

2 жыл бұрын

*takes notes*

@ethanoux10

2 жыл бұрын

@@zivens.2407 to be fair mcg 129 does change the sound still like all lubes will. I think it deepens the sound without cutting out the other frequencies as much

@zivens.2407

2 жыл бұрын

@@ethanoux10 I'm new to the hobby so I'm soaking up all the info I can get. I'll have to try it and see what I like.

video long overdue, thanks for clearing the matter up! as always top notch content!

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

I'm glad I could help! also it's too soon to use notch terms... I have a notchbook 14 2021.. LOL

Thanks for another amazing video Andy 🔥

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure!

Thank you for this precise video I needed this!

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Glad I could help!

Now I've finally decided that I'll collect switches more that the keebs, LOL! Would love to include this in my collection! Appreciate this review!

strong boy heavier springs only Thank you for the banger video, Andy!

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

my arms strong my fingers kinda weak tho tbh LOL

@jalexanderc

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen pullups with fingers wrapped on the bar instead of palms and you'll need heavier springs in no time

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

ok bruce lee workout style let's go

Knowledge bomb! I have UHMWPE stems unopened. What housing would you recommend I try them in?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

People liked trying them in mx blacks iirc

Good vid! I’m always down for some keyboard history 🙌

Legend! What a fantastic video.

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Glad you enjoyed it!

I have had some jwk recolors but my favorite one is relubed and filmed Gat golden cap yellow. I like them more than black inks, Lavs, Banana split, etc. It's pretty underrated imo I joined this hobby in 2021 so thank you for the history lesson. Very interesting about v1 vs v2 mold

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

i'm hearing a lot of hype around golden cap yellows. i have some milkys here and they're solid too

Love the video Andy! How would you say JWK quartz compare to alpacas? I'm trying to decide switches for my next jelly build!

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

they look to be fine, long pole uhmwpe is not something i've tried before though. like i said probably muted upstroke but interesting bottom out sound

i found green snakes for £3.60 (for 10) in stock and jwk blacks for £2.80 can any of you recommend one over the other? im a beginner so i would really appreciate advice

Will the 20mm spring length make you feel that the bottom out is heavier? I am comfortable with 62g tungsten switches but im not sure if the 65g with 20mm will make it feel really heavy for me. Planning to put it on Hex4b and expecting it to sound poppy :)

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Longer spring feels heavier at top

Love the honesty

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

it's the only way I know how to do it

I'm holding onto this vid for future reference.

How are the new tungsten switches by owlabs? Are they similar to Poseidon switches?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

yeah definitely similar

I'm new in this hobby and hella confused about the switches, if i want a thocky tactile switches, what are you recommending the most (?) My eyes are on purple panda right now, but I'm still confused by how many switches there are

@brando_100

2 жыл бұрын

Tactiles have a ton of variety in feel. Boba U4T are very popular for a deeper sound and a massive tactile bump.

So will jwk differ if tribosys 3203 instead kytrox205g0 since you keep specify that 205g0 makes them all sound deeper making them too similar

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

3203 doesn’t smoothen it out as much but it will be clackier

I heard these jwk switches sound good on fr4

Crazy man great video, I recently made a video about recoloring my own switches i wish i watched this first

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

lol DIY dyeing plastics, interesting

@Amiro05

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen 😂 yeah was super fun mixed results tho

“Dude, I like inks” 😂

how does the tungsten switches compare to the poseidens?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Poseidons seemed less noisy. I feel like the leaf or spring in Poseidons isn't great.

Do you have any thoughts on Lumia switches?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Have actually never heard of them. Looks like a Panda alternative?

Alpaca is smooth but too clacky for me, can you recommend some deep thockier switches?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Gateron ink black, gateron cap v2, lavender, Poseidon

@yanhuan1

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen I'll check them out, thanks

There's a new jwick switch again, it's ''JWK Ultimate Black '' the specifications is almost the same as Alpacas, the price is shocking cheap only $ 0.24 per switch. Any thoughts ?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

i feel like jwicks were said to be the same as alpacas so i'm sure these new ones are good too

What's the difference between the green snake and moss? I thought they were both copies of the alpaca?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Green moss hasn’t been confirmed as 100% recolor. Like I said in the video, the material percentage on top/bottom varies from switch to switch

I picked up a set of JWICK yellows and holy crap they blow tealios out of the water and these things were only 21 cents/ea!!

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

yeah who's using tealios these days tbh

what switch goes well with brass plate?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

any will sound fine, nothing particularly sounds bad if you like brass plates

any chance of a box ink video?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

I don’t like short travel switches

As a hardcore switch enthusiast I can confirm everything Andy said here is true. Mx blacks although a little scratchy still sound the best to me for my preference.

Color coordination is important for me.

I'm watching this while spring swapping my Alpacas to 67g for the very reason he stated in the video. 😂

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

lmao! 62g is way too light fr fr

@JacobTech-3567

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen Agreed! I thought it was just me. Anyways, I love your videos man. Keep up the great work!

What are good budget JWK Tactiles?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

jwicks have tactile variants too

@vectivuz1858

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen What I found are JWK/JWICK Lagoons. Is that one of those? They are really cheap, maybe just two dollars more expensive than Akko CS Switches

how are these jwk switches in the kbd67lite?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Thock

@johnathanchan6590

2 жыл бұрын

go plateless on the kdb lite :D

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

STOPPP lol

I keep hearing that long pole switches "feel" different is that true?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Yes. Reduced travel.

@philipp594

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen Ah thats all lol. I hate that, thanks for clarifying.

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I hate it too which is why I don’t daily them!

Just upgraded to Alpaca v2s from Akko CS Rose Reds, and man, the ammount of smothness is immeasurable. I cleaned off the factory lube and lubed it myself and i honestly couldn't tell the difference between the feel of stock and re-lubed, the sound is quite cleaner though. They have been my dream switches when i first discovered this hobby, finally got my hands on them

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

You’ve reached the promised land

JWICKs are literally the same mould, materials (and spring depending on which one you get) as the Alpacas but for Gateron Yellow money. And some versions support SMD lighting. They should be the gold standard for budget.

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Jwicks are kind of GOATed. It's the same mold? Is it just a diff material? The sound is a bit diff from regular alpaca IMO

@S85B50Engine

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen from what I read they should be on the V2 mould and they say they are nylon and PC (the milky bottom and clear top ones at least)

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

It isn't as perfectly smooth to my ears. I have the full nylon all black

@S85B50Engine

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen I have talked to people that AB tested the clear top ones and Alpacas, they say it's the same. Those black ones might be using a different top housing material, since it appears to have a texture that other JWK switches like Alpacas don't have. It's still rather interesting

7:55 "I know it sounds crazy that people care about the color of their switch" My with my Trueno livery Tofu65 which was built around the release both ePBT Kuro/Shiro and the Moyu Blacks (Dark Jades) in early 2020. Even worse, I waited so long for a matching stabilizer, and only when C3 Equalz V3 came out did I get two stabs to mix & match, just to match my Moyu's haha. All in a CF plate ofc to match. COLOR MATTERS MAN!! haha

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

hahah yeah definitely! freaking tangerines (and the latest epsilon) are so ugly it's hard for me to forgive even if the sound/feel is good

@SLiX-thatguy11m-

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen its for people making Halloween builds /s

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

@@SLiX-thatguy11m- dishonor on my birthday

Referring to scalpers: "those people are utter trash" *hits the like button*

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

down with the flippers

imagine if that fam saw you sniff the switches LOL

Hey Andy, thoughts on the BCP?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Sold mine. Short travel is meh. I didn’t love the sound either. I’d rather just keep the original h1

@Cdustt

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen Any recommendations for a switch that sounds like a BCP without all the issues?

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

they aren't issues, they're traits of the switch cream stem = adds scratch, but long pole changes the sound (it bottoms out on the pole rather than stem sliders). to make that cleaner bottom out sound it has to reduce travel. cherry top = adds scratch cuz cherry material is less smooth, but also changes sound of upstroke clack like sp stars are clacky and smooth but the sound of that switch (regular length pole) won't have the same kind of clack as it is a regular stem, ie stem sliders bottom out on the bottom housing rails. so if you like BCP sound you just gotta deal w it. cuz the C, aka the cream stem, is key in making that sound but also key in making it feel weird for me personally

Nice vid

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

Taeha says "it's the future" about almost anything that comes into his hands lol.

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

LUL not wrong

I bought white film just for my switches that I will not see once when typing...

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Lol I bought clear films to make sure my switches coordinated.. but clear = invisible which means I kept losing it when I dropped it.. would just disappear..

AND THE BACKGROUND HAS GREEN ACCENTS cmon man 💚

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

my shirt is also olive green kek

I care about my switches look lol I got Ev 02s and I want to get Sa Berserk so it matches

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Ooh nice match

Jwick blacks are actually so goated. Sound and feel great stock, and have a similar “scratchy” sound that cherries have. Not the same sound profile of course, but they’re smoother and kind of remind me of cherries.

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

jus that spring ping man, if only they factory lubed the springs too! I want a good stock switch. I know it's possible, too. the green snakes were factory lubed and sound great. but they're selling in unlubed in production run

@slowtyper95

2 жыл бұрын

Does it feel lighter than jwk red? (58.5g vs 60g) because i used the red ones and its too light for me

In my opinion, after all those custom swithes experience. The god tier of the linear switch that hold both smooth and sound is UPE stem and POM bottom or another way is fine. And PA66 top is presenting the best thocky sound, especially the Cherry's black top has a secret materail come with the PA66 causing a very good top out sound. Pls try C3 tangerine with a Cherry black top, no shit.

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

UPE = uhmwpe? pom bottom = pom stem? Yeah cherry top frankenswitches are surprisingly good. It just hurts to pay a premium for "hyperglide" mx blacks just to take the tops off. It gets expensive. I miss the cheaper mx blacks I've been told PA66 is just a nylon so I get confused when it's being listed as material

Try vermillion birds, they’re a top 3 stock switch for me as well as ice candies. I’d say the vermillion birds do benefit from hand lubing tho in terms of sound, smoothness is moot.

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

I swear to god that name sounds made up LMAO

@saucyg6371

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen I thought the same when I first heard of them, and bought them solely because of the name alone. I was surprised to find out they’re a pretty great switch that gives me Tealios vibes. They’re available from Elboard tho, if you wanna check them out.

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

my friend just said that he used the same switches stock and they were pretty solid!

Nice

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Thanks !

Oiled OP Blacks are goated for me

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

dude i love op blacks too but after the first batch they've had a bunch of binding issues

@chunkymilk1288

2 жыл бұрын

Really? Mine were r2 and haven’t experienced any issues, maybe I just got lucky?

@XHolyPuffX

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen I will say that I recently bought and lubed/filmed a new batch of OP Blacks from Divinikey, and only one or two of them had any issues with stickiness or binding. The rest are smooth as butter! Guess I got lucky lol

where can i get my hands on some posidion switches

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

moyustudio.cn/products/poseidon-switch

I work out, I'm pretty strong xD

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Ez true

JWICK T1 (teal stem) FACTORY LUBE, NO MODS, AMAZING!!!

@AndyVNguyen

Жыл бұрын

jwick are kinda goated

Wait, Jwick and JWK is different?!

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

they're sold under different names but some people are saying they're basically the same thing. the full nylon wick I tried are a bit diff from full nylon jwk but it's pretty close

Here we go again lol

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

we've always been here

@Rocket_VT

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen unfortunately

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

tbf the original jwk is still solid and I still use mauves in boards lol

Andy!!!

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

hello!

switches that have pink parts are just better for some magical reason alpacas, ktt strawberry, akko rose red

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

kinda tru tho

Vid good make mor plz

10 minutes of andy talking about green

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

while making that green

Hi im new!

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Hi new I’m Andy

Thanks for your honesty Andy. We can always count on you for a non-politically correct review ( ;

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

LOL WYM NON POLITICALLY CORRECT

@shawnng1720

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen I meaaan, you talk about options and share honest opinions instead of describing something as simply "good". It's a compliment haha

I run alpacas stock

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

that you can def do. do you hear any spring ping?

JWK Quartz is the true JWK gold standard…. Alpaca is better stock tho, but quartz is superior when both are lubed

Imagine how we sound to outsiders.

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

completely insane

To be honest I don't really get choosing a switch based on looks. It's not like you see much of them if anything at all once you've put keycaps on the board.

@jakel3812

2 жыл бұрын

Some people do care about the little things, me included

hi

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

Hello

@toxxic7476

2 жыл бұрын

@@AndyVNguyen what switches would you recommend for a mr suit with a pom plate

@yangzheng8291

2 жыл бұрын

@@toxxic7476 deez nutz

@toxxic7476

2 жыл бұрын

@@yangzheng8291 haha

@AndyVNguyen

2 жыл бұрын

I liked mauves on it.