I love my country but I love my faith more, which is universal 🇻🇦

@danieltracy7136

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Yes. Catholic first, American second

Opine with Pine, why is this series not labeled as such. Wonderful insight.

@jamesmcgrath3841

Жыл бұрын

@Widawizzard "Opine with Pine"..... Very catchy. You should be in marketing! But I'm sure Fr Pine doesn't need his name in the title, and he is using.... Matt Fradd's studio! 😁

I'm an American and I think all Catholic Churches are great. Don't matter if it's American , Canadian, Australian whatever.

@brianb1888

Жыл бұрын

I mean that’s a nice sentiment but by great we’re talking about the health of the Church. The Church in Germany is pretty objectively not in a great place. It’s on the brink of schism, over 500,000 German Catholics left the Church last year alone, and has a lot of state influence over it. Meanwhile, the Church in Nigeria is very strong, rapidly growing, and sending priests throughout the rest of the world. The regional Churches and dioceses are not all equal and not all in great places. (This doesn’t mean that there aren’t good Catholics, good priests, good communities, or beautiful liturgies there.)

@myleshagar9722

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In spite of many obstacles, many young people are joining the Church in China. They see the love practiced by believers.

@LemonDropYum

Жыл бұрын

You literally listed the English colonies. lol all churches are great, doesn't matter if it's english, english, or english. xD dying.

Pray for Australia, it needs grace desperately!!! 🙏🏼💧😢🔥❤️‍🔥🙌🏻☦️🕊️

The American expression of the Catholic Church is the best expression of the Catholic Church for Americans.

@marvalice3455

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I'm not so sure about that. But it's certainly the church the Lord has given us

@adambrocklehurst4211

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It's got a heavy dose of puritanism in it, it permeates American society, including American Catholic churches.

I love the use of “cringe” and “anti-cringe.” 😄 Somehow it communicates so much.

Wow, your video really got me thinking! As a European who lived in North America for quite some time, I must say you've highlighted some fascinating aspects. But, let's dive deeper into this discussion: Positives: 1. Greater sense of solidarity and fellowship, like those heart-warming parish potluck suppers. It's interesting how faith can differ between continents. 2. I was impressed by the stronger sense of creative fidelity in North America. The way one priest provided specific Scripture references during Confession was truly inspiring and sets a higher standard. 3. Belief in the feasibility of holiness is a powerful force. It's amazing to see how American Catholics' trust in St. John Henry Newman's holiness led to his canonization. A testament to faith and to his intercession! 4. The pragmatic can-do attitude as seen, for example, in the Catholic Marriage Tribunals is commendable. It's great to see effective ways to determine the validity or nullity of marriages. Areas for development: 5. I would add a thought-provoking point about some American brothers and sisters being 'Catholic in creed but protestant in culture'. The way that some engage in 'shopping around' between different rites and forms of worship is intriguing and raises important questions. 6. The assumption that the American experience reflects the Universal Church is a topic worth exploring further. It's crucial to understand and appreciate the diverse expressions of faith worldwide. 7. Importing polarized politics into the Church is definitely something to reflect on. The Church should transcend political divisions, embracing unity in Christ. Your insights have sparked my curiosity, and I can't help but wonder how these differences and challenges can impact the future of the Church. Let's continue this engaging conversation and explore how we can bridge these gaps while celebrating the richness of Catholicism!

As a foreigner it sometimes appear as if Americans put political affiliations/beliefs before Church dogma/teachings. Because a lot of American Catholics have trouble accepting/following/being open with certain topics if they contradict their political affiliations or party they vote for.

@lumiere.clarita

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I think many sincere and well-meaning American Catholics struggle with this. They blur the lines between Church teaching and political ideology. I think the dominant, two party system is largely to blame. In countries with more than two mainstream parties and politics that are more nuanced and varied, it is easier to be a politically adaptable Catholic.

10:45 A Hamilton reference by Father Gregory, crazy town!!

I have recently become a Catholic bc I saw the church stand up to the demonic murder of babies and admitting gay priests, etc. Thank you for following the Bible, providing good education for children, and having regard for miracles even in the present. There is something also to be said for having managed to protect, with God's grace, the Shroud of Turin.

@Peaceful_Gojira

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Converted this Easter Vigil. Can confirm: Christ is here. He is not going to be felt, found or confirmed in other churches...He is Catholic, through and through. Christ is King. Pax Christi. Ave Maris Stella.

@sheribrogden9247

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@@Peaceful_Gojira My Church is Christ The King. Blessings to you.

@adambrocklehurst4211

Жыл бұрын

If you became a Catholic so you could hate, you became a Catholic for the wrong reason, Christ tells us to LOVE the sinner, we love the woman who gets the abortion, we love the Gay priest, that's Christs unequivocal commandment. If you can't love your not on the side of Christ. Learn your gospels.

@sheribrogden9247

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@adambrocklehurst4211 Dear Adam, I have found that no other church teaches repentance like the Catholic faith. My many close friends who have had abortions have never outlived that day. Their pain continues long after the act. They have become alcoholics, drug addicted, and self torturers. I do not hate them nor does God but they often hate themselves. They are my sisters.There are 64 million babies that have been aborted since Roe v Wade. The Isrealites sacrificed 1000s by sacrificing them to Baal/Moleck and God obliterated the Northern kingdom and 19 years later sent the Southern Kingdom into bondage. There was no repentance and God does not break His own laws. The Gay movement celebrates June. That was Ishtar's month. She was Ashtaroth, Innana, Venus, etc. Her priests were men dressed as women. She was the Goddess of parades who cast spells to make a man love a man. How is America doing since we took prayer out of the schools and the 10 Commandments out of Government display? On 9/11/41, we began to build the Pentigon. It marked the beginning of US power in the world. What else happened on 9/11? Did you know that New York was founded on that day and the man who founded it in 9/11/16 pronounced a blessing and a curse on it. The blessing was that if we followed God, we would be richly blessed but if we turned from God, he pronounced Moses' curse. On our 9/11, we were struck but there was no repentance. 19 yrs later, we have been struck with Covid-19. As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord. I repent all my past transgressions against God and my fellows. May God have mercy on us for what we have done and what we have left undone.

@AnneEloiseOfCNY

Жыл бұрын

​@@sheribrogden9247Your knowledgeable synopsis gives much food for thought. New York was founded on 9/11 ?? I guess that was New Amsterdam? Your statement sent shivers down my spine for Iam NYC born and raised. I was living on Manhattan on 9/11/2001. I came to realize and accept that God allowed the destruction of the Twin Towers because of unbridled sin against Him. But that took me some time to understand. I was shocked by the event itself. In fact I had PTSD connected to it. Not like a war veteran's, but I had nightmares, etc. So I had to heal from the event before I could see the bigger picture. God's picture. 🌹🌹

Hi father ❤. I'm Asif from Pakistan Lahore City. Kindly please father please please pray for me and my family I'm 33years old I'm Christian believe Catholic ❤please help me my two kids my two old parents all responsibility for me my wife is death last 6years ago 😭😭🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻

@MaaFreddy

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May God bless you Asif. I Will also pray for you. I think a lot about Christians who endure persecution and vexation. 🙏🏻 📿

@aiantenor9080

Жыл бұрын

May God bless you and keep you Asif 🙏

@debraandrus8302

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You and your family are in all our prayers, Asif. Pray and trust in God.

The TLM is widespread here and there are many parishes with orthodox teachings, but we also have the most clownery clown masses, so maybe it's a land of extremes. In a land of Protestantism, we also fall short of having Catholic culture, even in very Catholic areas. We barely have processions, little if any local feast days where a large community or city can come together.

@brianfarley926

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There’s a decent Catholic community in San Antonio

@AnneEloiseOfCNY

Жыл бұрын

NYC has street fairs on some feast days.

@canibezeroun1988

Жыл бұрын

Yea I'm noticing this. I'm trying to do more stuff in my community. Not too many young guys in my parish but thankfully the older guys are willing to teach some little things to the inverts we have coming into our neck of the woods.

Thanks for you video father!

Great speaker and great objective, well-thought out talk.

As a northeasterner in the US, you cannot get away from the liberal nature of the Catholic Church. Pro-life is barely a thing anymore, and homilies are like a standup routine, it’s more important to make people laugh than make them uncomfortable. I have a priest friend (from NY) who told my kids they don’t have to attend mass during vacation. In Europe, no young people are at the masses we attended. The church has bigger issues than which is best.

We are thriving in central and south Texas. I wish you could visit us in Victoria, Texas

The Catholic Church is one all around the world. The mission for every national Church is to be as saint as it should be, not the best one.

Father…excellent recap…hopeful! …the beard is inspired too👍🏻✨

You have an epic beard going on there, Fr. Gregory. God bless you.

My experience in Europe--Belgium, Luxembourg, and Germany--was that the people are more Catholic in their day to days lives in how they live; more community, less consumption, high quality leisure, etc and in general happier. Americans Catholics, unavoidably effected by puritanism, tend to be more legalistic, think too much about getting ahead (a problem related to anti-Catholicism and not wanting to be viewed as a "dirty foreigner"), and in general maybe a bit of an inferiority complex to boot. American Catholics, in the end, are Americans. Patria, I think, is what Eropeans have and what Americans are missing.

Fr. Pine, I haven't heard the term boss since I was very young. Lol.

In North Carolina Catholicism is very much a minority. However the way we live our lives as Catholics is different from the Protestants. The TLM is widespread in America. Which I really enjoy I cannot speak if it's better here than elsewhere in the World. The Roman Catholic Church and all of it's rites are beautiful though.

I have not been anywhere else but these United States and Ontario, so I am in no position to answer the question fully. As a Floridian born into a federative American empire, I am glad I have what I have in the Church. I enjoy your perspective.

We need to get over ourselves.

Would be interesting to hear how things are in Africa/Asia/South America etc.

Joseph Smith asked a similar question. Too bad he never looked at the Catholic Church. Instead, he started his own.

The absolute greatest of them all. Not even the Filipinos or Poles do Catholicism like Americans.

The Catholicism in the US and other first-world countries is so much different from our Catholic culture in Latin America. I would say the majority of Catholic latinos are not even remotley intrested in the type of conversations you have in Steubenville, Pints with Aquinas, or Scott Hahn's podcast. Most Catholic Latinos are way simple-minded. We have a very limited understanding of the faith compared to Americans. The reasons? We could argue there are many. But one of them I would say we as a low-wage working-class culture don't even have the time to leisure and ponder on this kind of intelectual activities. That combined with an actual lack of interest. "There are no uninterested subjects, only uninterested people", said C.S. Lewis. Maybe this is particularly true for Latin Americans Catholics. There is much more to being poor, than lack of money.

@canibezeroun1988

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I think that's in part because the intellectual tradition is different. Latin America does have it's own strains, but I think Americanism has interfered with people being in touch with their own scholars. I'm a Black invert to Catholicism so there are a ton of racial obstacles I have to contend with when it comes to witnessing my faith within my family.

@Forester-

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It’s easy to be “simple minded” about faith when it’s the cultural norm. Not that simple minded people are unintelligent, they just may not have ever had to really examine, justify, and defend why they believe what they believe. We have the same type faith among “cultural Catholics”. I think that’s why converts tend to be knowledgeable about the faith, they had to work up to that belief, it wasn’t the passed onto them and it wasn’t the cultural norm. If the trend of secularization extends to Latin America there will be a growth of Catholic intellectual interest because people will be confronted by new arguments and forced to defend their faith or leave it.

And yes, my Church is the best. And it is the best in my country, specifically.

Beard.

So...the Catholic Churches I go to are empty. That's how I know I am in the right place...I say, "Jesus I Am Here." They are hollowed out & perfunctory. My main Church has no music, no altar boys & hardly any genuine reverence. On a hot day this month the service was rushed & over in 30 minutes. I was hot, but more offended. When I travel...at least they have music...but they just ended Saturday Vigil Mass due to low attendance. The Spirit of the Age loves Taylor Swift more than Jesus. Oh well...at least I know I am on the right road. I don't need a crowd...but that means heaps of lost souls. Many are so lost! 😩😔😶😣

@AR18123

Жыл бұрын

I can’t stand Taylor Swift. Especially since she’s a staunch advocate for abortion

@mraemartinez

Жыл бұрын

@@AR18123 That's what the people love in 2023...I hope Jesus would draw a bigger crowd...but I doubt it...They know not what they do...

@miracles_metanoia

Жыл бұрын

Our traditional parishes are PACKED! Do you attend a NO or traditional service? Byzantine / Ukrainian Catholic Church might also be something worth looking into

@aboutwhat1930

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There's certainly a lot of that going on. Might be worth writing a letter to the priest stating your objections to the way things are being done, which aspects you feel are most cheapened. Choosing the abbreviated readings and psalms, skipping the 2nd reading & homily, and speeding through the liturgy of the Eucharist as well. The mass lost its substance and reverence. Just because it's 95 degrees outside doesn't excuse irreverence or breezing through everything. Unless you're on the cusp of a battle, there's very little reason to cut both mass and all other ministries so short. A lot of that will fall back to the local bishop and priests, in choosing individuals apparently without the necessary abilities to shepherd God's flock. Traditionalists and reverent Novus Ordo don't seem to have the same issues. I'm not really sure how to express a desire for either, but I think that is what is most necessary. But then I also fear the bishop's ability to squash both, as is seemingly the case in my hometown diocese.

@mraemartinez

Жыл бұрын

@@miracles_metanoia I attend Novus Ordo...There is a TLM in my area but it is not easy to get to and I stll don't know how Bergoglio will affect the schedule...

Giga chad is back

Type of question only Americans would ask haha

@HoradrimBR

Жыл бұрын

Not at all.

@HoradrimBR

Жыл бұрын

Just one example: spanish traditional catholicism. For them - and many other latin traditionalists their country/tradition is the most pure/holier/etc and the anglos only bring heresies, etc.

@MrMustang13

Жыл бұрын

I think the Europeans should be asking this more if anything.

@o0OAnnamariaO0o

Жыл бұрын

@issnsnickers1157 Ich glaube eher, dass das eine Frage ist, die wir Österreicher und Deutschen schwer nachvollziehen können, weil uns der Patriotismus noch viel krampfhafter ausgetrieben wurde als anderen europäischen Nationen.

Our diocese just filed for bankruptcy. We are in a transitional phases, very unsettled.

Vorteil und nachteil*

I am Polish and American. American Church is definitely more approachable, warmer and community loving. Polish Church is, for the most part, cold, distant and there is no sense of community😢 Priests also have different habits. In Poland Priest hardly ever stays with people after the mass not to mention shakes hands. Also the institution in Poland is still pretty rotten with many people who should never be clergy...

Father, you lived in Germany? Where?

USA USA USA USA

@1984SheepDog

Жыл бұрын

This is a joke

Blasphemy!! Of course America is the best at everything!

First America is not only the USA... American is not an official nationality because it refers to the whole continent. The church in the USA has been influenced by Protestants.

Not

Nah the catholic church ks the best

This very question annoys me. I have to watch the whole video but I want to explain. I was born and raised Catholic in the US but never really absorbed the American way of thinking about the culture. I really took to my Southern Italian heritage and that is my fundamental mindset. I have not had the opportunity to live in Italy but I have been living in Israel for 15 years and it's a better fit than America. I don't get this constant need for comparison either. I had been away from the Church for many years, going instead with the Evangelicals. I have been trying to watch KZread videos but the American presenters are just so dogmatic about the TLM and how they have to be right. Well, here's a newsflash. Not everyone thinks like you. We don't have the option. There may be an occasional Latin Mass in Jerusalem but where I live, Haifa, we are strictly Novus Ordo and this is what the Latin Patriarch has decreed as the standard. I don't like it but my only option is to drop out again. I don't speak Arabic, but the Arab language Mass has a more traditional feel. I went to the English one on Saturday evening and while the liturgical music is a bit bland and wishy washy it is ok. But for the Communion and Dismissal, they used Protestant praise songs! I was furious. I have a pretty good voice but it rebels against contrarian spirits and I could not sing either of these songs. What do bluebirds singing in the morning have to do with the Eucharist? Ok, rant over, I will finish the video.

It pains me to hear stories of priests not being able to pursue relationships.

Fr. Pine, I'm your mother's age and just want you to know that she's right; you really should lose the beard. If she hasn't told you, she's thinking it. As are all the women below our age. Nothing prurient at all, just the enjoyment of seeing an attractive face, man or woman. Trans do not need to apply.😅

Americans are rude. In Boston Cafes the NEW selfish thing is to act like the cafes are your private office. Talking loud on the phone or zoom and ruining everybody 's sense of concentration. It's annoying.

@trying-to-learn

Жыл бұрын

Boston isn't America. Go to the South or Midwest.

@carlos.sierra

Жыл бұрын

@@trying-to-learnamen!

@Forester-

Жыл бұрын

America has been described as essentially 5 or 6 different countries culturally. There's very few things that can really be described as "American" behavior. You also happened to be in a city known as one of the most obnoxious and impolite, I've never been to Boston but that is the stereotype.

@mraemartinez

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@@trying-to-learn How arrogant...I do NOT live in a foreign country...you must talk loudly in cafes' too....

@mraemartinez

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@@Forester- and it fits. I am loathe to pull the "Ugly American" card bcuz I love America and Americans...but it's the NEW spirit of the age...and truth is truth....

Maybe I’m just obtuse but what in the world is the “American Church” ~ this is a seriously bizarre intellectual proposition and extremely egocentric. 🤔

@ponti5882

Жыл бұрын

The Church in America. As you would describe the Church in Germany, or in France, or in Mexico.

@Forester-

Жыл бұрын

We have national bishops conferences and we even have national “delegations” at councils and synods. This is a very historical concept in the Church. It’s really only in the aftermath of the Reformation that local and national Churches had less direct control. Even today it’s the national church that controls observances of feast days and fasting requirements for their flock.