Kirk's wife is the real MVP for being the camera person sitting at shotgun.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

💯💯💯 ❤️

Car & drivers test were on a grippy surface and most importantly they discount the 1ft roll. 4 kids and making a video? You are Superman!

Vans rule! AWD system from the Pilot would be awesome. Acura should do their own version of this van with SHAWD with the new turbo V6. That would rock! Don’t forget to add the ventilated seats to the second row!

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Yes to this 🏁🥳

@Matanumi

Жыл бұрын

Honda's been missing this for far too long

Excellent review ! Nothing like getting your family in the van to see how accommodating the odyssey is , great job Kirk and family !

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

We have a 2020 Odyssey in the family. Having owned around 20 Honda's over the course of my life this has been the only one with quality issues. Here's the list experienced in the first year of ownership: 1. Bent 3rd row seat bracket (from the factory) prevented 3rd row seat from folding 2. Failed Sat radio antenna. 3. Sliding doors on both sides rub so much on the inside door jambs it wears the paint away. Check the forums, this is widespread. 4. Crackling on the speakers even when audio is off. There seems to be a TSB for this now. 5. Warped brake rotors. No, we don't brake hard all the time. 6. Squeaks and rattles from rear seats 7. Improperly installed rear door weather stripping from the factory. Despite all this, it drives so well for a van you can forgive the annoyances.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for sharing!

@georgiaguardian4696

Жыл бұрын

I have heard of your no7 issues before. I am lucky my 21’ experienced few issues that are okay to live with since why drivetrain is powerful and flawless for me.

I can barely make it to target with two kids :) Super dad! 3 kids, trip to target and a mini van review 😂

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

4 kids 🤣

@louislopez55

2 жыл бұрын

@@KirkKreifels ...and a wife, don’t forget her.

Great video again I can imagine this is a great family car I like the new grill and the headlights. Thanks for the update Kirk... Waiting for the next video bro 👌

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Another great review, thanks, man.

Love how you actually took your kids in it to target 🤣 hoping Honda does add a hybrid option and AWD.

Great review, lovely family!

My wife promised that we can get a minivan if we have more kids, so I impregnated her again in hopes of becoming a VTEC dad. She broke her promise and is still resisting. Maybe if she sees more young and attractive families like yours, she’ll cave in. Our 2019 Outback 3.6 Touring is too small. My 2016 Honda Accord EXL is way roomier and can better handle a rear facing child seat and still enough room for passenger in front. I love your Sienna. Toyotas from that era are so smooth and just go on living forever.

@attackroflchopter4403

3 жыл бұрын

Your wife promised , looool. Bro..

@aiaproductions9319

2 жыл бұрын

Wait, you got your wife pregnant just for a minivan? If not then cool, but lol.

Sweet, I always liked the Odyssey & the Sienna Vans. Hope u get the Carnival van to test.. Stay Safe, Be Safe!!!!!

Loved it! Perfect balance with the babies. Thanks.

My 2021 Sienna gets an average of 34-36 miles per gallon. The only time I like to go fast is when the children are not on board. But since it’s a mini van, I drive them to daycare and to the park, hardly want or need to go fast. That gas mileage tho… fabulous. Fill up once a month. On long road trips, it’s comfortable and love the smart cruise control. The Honda is nice but the styling of my XSE version turns heads, surprisingly. I’m really happy with my 2021 Sienna.

Great review and little Kreifels!

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks, Ken.

i’m single but i mean if i was in the market for a minivan i’m not sure why i would even look at anything else. and listen to that VTEC kick in at @2:35

@hemi3005

3 жыл бұрын

Best minivan ever right?

@austynfield7475

3 жыл бұрын

@@hemi3005 fr how is it not? i’m sure it handles well for a MINIVAN as well and then the powertrain? like what more do you want from a minivan?

Kirk low-key flexing his virility by showing us all his kids. I feel bad for his wife. lol

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

She wants more 😎

Mr kirk‼️ definitely a go for you & family.. I got a 2018 and I love my odyssey.. never thought in life I would own a van. But the odyssey is a beast definitely worth it 👌🏾

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Congratulations! Nice van mate.

@jerellebullock8792

3 жыл бұрын

@@KirkKreifels thanks kirk ✌🏾✊🏾‼️

We have a 9 year old and 3 year old twins. The Odyssey was the best fit for us. We could put 3 car seats side by side in the second row and keep the third row seats down. As a result, we can keep our City Select double stroller unfolded in the cargo area, making it easier to get the family in and out the door. We can keep everything in the under basket and cup holders on the stroller when we put it in the van or take it out of the van. Cabin watch and talk is another must have feature. But I agree that for the price on the Elite trim, they really need to have the 360 camera…. I went from a big BMW to the Odyssey and my wife still has her X5. When we test drove the different vans in 2013, at the time, the Odyssey was also the best driving and easiest for me to adjust to. Driving dynamics in vans have come a long way and more competitive, but when we upgraded from our 2013 to the 2019, the Odyssey was still a better fit for us than the other makes. If they could make it a hybrid but with a V6, add the 360 camera like the Acura MDX…. SH-AWD would be interesting, especially as hybrid batteries would lower the center of gravity on the vehicle and change the driving dynamic even more…. But they do need to smooth out the stop start feature, especially if they make it a hybrid vehicle.

Waiting for the Honda Odyssey Type R maybe...

@damilolaakanni

3 жыл бұрын

Hmm...🤔

@trdrav4

3 жыл бұрын

I'm sure most dads would be fine with an Odyssey Si

Not a mini van fan but excellent review and what a beautiful family kirk.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks so much!

Great review Kirk, as always! Beautiful town; where in Florida is this?

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks man. I'm in Naples!

Damn, I thought my brother was bad.... you got some kids! Honestly I hope people don’t troll but I loved the way my old Odyssey drove! Plenty of power and smooth!

I just jumped from Honda to Toyota for my wife’s van. She loves the new van.

Objective yet personal review. Good job. We just bought 2021 Honda Odyssey because of engine and smooth transmission. We also can’t stand the design lines of Sienna and it’s loud cabin and also the non-removable seats. The last thing parents want is extra trouble and low power when hauling the entire family with a weak hybrid drivetrain. We have also took our Odyssey to the snowy mountain area the past spring. It actually performed a lot better than expected. We will swap to snow all season tires from Michelin for next winter season.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks George! You made a great choice for your family. FWD vans do pretty well in snow, especially with winter tires! My parents have a Sedona that is good in snow.

Kirk wanting to be a youtuber to review cool cars. Automakers: Kirk has quite a family. Send that man a minivan.

Centralized sliding door switches. Never thought about that. But makes perfect sense.

Like I tell all the Folks that ask me for vehicle selection advice. "There's no such thing as a perfect vehicle, just the best compromise." And everyone's priorities in performance/economy/features are different.

these crazy people in my area driving their Odysseys smoking my miata at the light.

I got 2022 odyssey and I am loving it

Kirk, for 2023 do you recommend the Sienna or Odyssey more?

Kirk Daddy. Lol definitely getting a sienna when I have kids.

Next time you go on a Target run, definitely want to see what Hot Wheels are on the pegs...

Kirk, I have a 2005 Honda Odyssey and some of the placement of switches and buttons are the same as this. I guess that’s just the way Honda has designed it over the years.

Slight appliance nerd here. Regarding the vacuum having a bag. Studies have shown that bagged vacuums are better for allergy suffers because they contain dust and debris better than bagless. Without a bag, small dust particles can still escape through the seals of the dust cup. I've gone back to using bagged vacuums.

@MarcBookPro

3 жыл бұрын

The bag also does a better job of containing dirt when changing it. The dirt cups in bagless vacuums can allow dust to spew when emptying into a trash can.

The reference to the little toaster movie!! 😄

Kirk, I hope 25 years from now that your daughters all marry "car guys" so your Sunday dinners are "entertaining" and "edifying". Thanks for this review! I have friends that loved their Odyssey, but hated them after the transmissions bit the dust! Hopefully, the new design will be more reliable! 😁👌

Aside from the minivans, this area is beautiful. Can you please share what city/state it is?

A minivan review with kids to demonstrate how it will actually be used?! Shocking! Minivans have come a long way from their sparse interior days.

I wish you reviewed the Sienna Platinum or Limited Hybrid because the XSE is just a sportier trim that was based off the XLE (which is the 2nd lowest trim)

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

It doesn't change my opinion. Unusable entertainment. Permanent 2nd row. Not as smooth under medium to high load. A sienna Prime is the only way I'd fall for a new one.

Great minivan

Do a review of the Pacifica Hybrid!

If it has same mpg as Toyota Sienna hybrid then I will consider to buy it especially with the gas price over $4 per gallon

I really want a Honda Odyssey with a Plugin like the Pacifica. I really don't like the Sienna very much either. I like that the Toyota is a hybrid but there’s no V6 option for heavy loads. The hybrid batteries are not good, there’s not enough energy in them. The second row seats don’t come out or don’t fold into the floor. It’s not wide enough for big loads or plywood. If you want this look in a car you should just go get a Highlander. Toyota would be better served to bring something like the European Pro Ace to the US with passenger capabilities. A hybrid minivan with these features would be the perfect vehicle for RVing if it had a pop top roof.

@Matanumi

Жыл бұрын

Second row seats don't even come out!? WHAT my 2002 does that shit

I heard this minivan does not have separate ac unit for the rear. As a result the cabin doesn’t cool down as fast and stay as cool. The rear vents are not in the roof either so the placement doesn’t help with the cooling.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

It has tri zone climate. Lower vents might be better for kids?

Bags can hold more than a canister. Also they require less maintenance.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Nothing's worse than realizing you're out of vacuum bags 🤣

@watchandjewelryloft4713

2 жыл бұрын

Also, I can imagine people not changing a filter EVER if it was a canister vacuum. The bag is also the filter. I have a Shop vac that takes bags. It's really great. My house vacuum is a Sebo Felix. Also, a bag. Bags are not outdated.

Love me some Kirk! Super Dad!

Any chance you'll review the new kia carnival and then do a comparison review?

What do you think about the KIA carnival? It looks better imo(subjective,some may not find better) but I have heard not good stories about GDI engines that KIAs and Hyundais have.Hope you can test one and share your opinion.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

I'll be getting one soonish for review

@georgiaguardian4696

Жыл бұрын

My friend bought a Carnival and had engine problem. It was good for a year for him but it went downhills fast.. he sold it losing around $15000 and bought a Odyssey after test driving mine.

Wish they put the ac vents in the ceiling in the second and third row

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah I can see that, but kids sit lower so maybe they cool the kiddos better?

The Honda Odyssey definitely has better tail lamp assemblies because the produce far better illumination for look and safety. Sienna taillights illumination is substandard and maybe even dangerous for dark night driving.

Turltle neck seems more noticeable for some reason...

hmm finnaly honda updated it also waiting for the ralliart video

I had 3 older Odyssey’s and the handling was stellar. Can’t believe they messed that up. Also Honda really slacking without hybrid

@KirkKreifels

2 жыл бұрын

No hybrid and ac vents not on the roof are big down falls of the odyssey...sloppy handling but great breaks and super smooth

Awesome

Minivan time!!!

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Haha I LOVE vans...

Yeah I’d give up the Sienna’s fuel economy for the Odyssey’s 10 speed auto and V6

@occckid123

3 жыл бұрын

Depends on how much you drive. I drive 150-200 miles a day and I'm getting usually over 40 mpg with the sienna instead of probably 25 with thr odyssey. That savings can pay for the car note itself lol

@_TheWerewolf

3 жыл бұрын

@@occckid123 yeah, I can see the point of going with Sienna. Might as well save money on gas if you’re driving a minivan to haul goods with kids and what not

@occckid123

3 жыл бұрын

@@_TheWerewolf also the center consol acts as a tray 2 eat food if you close the lid on the cup holder:)

@deniscdyck

3 жыл бұрын

@@occckid123 it also depends on what kind of driving. Lots of city driving and the sienna makes sense. Lots of road trips then the fuel economy advantage is marginal (6.5l/100km sienna vs 8.5l/100km odyssey). Add lack of power to go from 90km/h to 130km/h to safely overtake a big trailer on a two lane road when the van is packed and in the sienna you are putting your life and your family's at risk. The fuel economy, in my view, is only an advantage for the sienna if you are a fleet driver that only drives city (and lots). Saving a few bucks in fuel is not worth risking my family's life on the road.

@occckid123

3 жыл бұрын

@@deniscdyck sienna traps 90mph in the 1/4. That's not lack of power lol. I do lots of highway driving also and the sienna is getting over 40mpg while the old sienna would do 25. That's a significant difference. Also I can use the ac in the sienna and let the car five me cool air while not running the vehicle. That means I can sit for 10 mins and drive the car 7 .ins but get 42mpg while that same trip would yield me 11mpg in the regular version with the v6

Hybrid one with 2nd row from vw atlas:)

Need a hydrid odyssey!

The fact that you can't take out the 2nd row on the Sienna would be a huge dealbreaker. Meanwhile, keyboard warriors are saying that the Odyssey's bland styling is a worse dealbreaker than the Sienna's unpracticality.

@georgiaguardian4696

Жыл бұрын

I found Sienna’s design a bit too over the board. Odyssey still looks the best for the current mini-van beside Pacifica.

@Blank00

Жыл бұрын

@@georgiaguardian4696 Sienna's styling is the least of my gripes about that van. My biggest gripe is the inability to remove the 2nd row, defeating the purpose of a mibivan.

I love the Odyssey

I feel like your point on reliability was kind of misleading. There is literally extra complexity by definition of adding something, but the hybrid drive trains at least produced by Toyota Are substantially reliable. And even if they weren't the 10 year 150000 mile battery warranty and 8 year 100000 mile hybrid drive train warranty Will more than cover the length that most people keep their vehicle for. I just think it's a bad mindset to push the idea that hybrids are inherently less reliable although in Chrysler's case that's probably true.

@Wasabi9111

3 жыл бұрын

Recently odyssey’s haven’t been particularly reliable as they used to based on recent surveys. Toyota hybrids have a long production and reliability history. Probably more reliable than the odyssey long term.

@Preh

3 жыл бұрын

@@chipb1193 the cost for toyota hybrid to non hybrid is 800$ this year, most people will make that up in 2 1/2 years, and most who want the hybrid specifically will make it up even quicker. Not only that but the margin is slimming all the time.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Time will tell. Toyota arguably makes the best hybrids and most reliable ones. If I had to tow as well, I'm not sure I'd go with this hybrid setup for a van. Sienna is a great van, but Toyota can make it better, and the Honda to me has less compromises.

@Wasabi9111

3 жыл бұрын

@@Preh also, the hybrid versions tend to hold their value much better. I was looking at used highlanders a couple of years ago and the hybrid version barely depreciated.

Hope you get a Carnival sometime to compare.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

I'm working very hard on this :D

Holy crap, that's alot of kids. Lol

@ty.exit140

3 жыл бұрын

my mans Kirk goin crazy 😂😂💯💯💯

@pilotvanquish3886

3 жыл бұрын

@@ty.exit140 😂😂😭

@tinhinnh

3 жыл бұрын

atleast theyre cute kids

@ty.exit140

3 жыл бұрын

@@tinhinnh most def

Odyssey still has the same transmission issues it’s had the last few years. Nobody mentions that in the review cause it’s not something you’re gonna just see doing a head to head of brand new vehicles.

@NoName-gv6nm

Жыл бұрын

Toyota Hybrids having cable corrosion... 7 thousand dollar repair

What was your average fuel economy, on what kinds of driving was it achieved, and over what period of time? Thanks.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Over 90 miles I saw about 19mpg. Which is slightly better than my 2004 sienna that gets about 16-17 lol

@golfgra36

3 жыл бұрын

@@KirkKreifels Thanks. I have a 2005 Sienna XLE (FWD), which I love and have owned since 2008. I get the same 16-17 in mixed driving (~40% street/~60% highway). On long highway trips I might see ~24-26. Have heard that Odysseys can push 30 mpg on highway-only trips thanks to VCM, which Odysseys have featured for many years. Interesting that Toyota never tried a VCM-like solution in Sienna and leap-frogged that technology to go hybrid instead. I like the V6 appeal but I trust there's a reason Toyota avoided VCM.

@ks1ngh27

3 жыл бұрын

@@golfgra36 lots of issues with vcm reported. Odyssey owners install a device that disables vcm. You get better mileage but long term reliability issues. Hybrid is rock solid on reliability. Hybrids have one of the lowest costs of maintenance until the battery needs replacing which probably at 150k-200k miles. I want the odyssey but hearing of reliability issues is keeping me off right now.

Please test the Kia Carnival!

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

I'm working on it!

omg this is very nice thoughts on the kia mini van? i forgot the name oopsie-

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Carnival

I rather have that Odyssey than the 4th gen sienna my family owns.

Actually the Chrysler Pacifica beat it in sales for 2021.

"... you dont gotta worry about a hybrid battery going bad.." glad you pointed that out because toyota hybrid batteries are notorious for going bad..............................

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

All batteries die eventually.

@MrOscar5690

3 жыл бұрын

@@KirkKreifels the same can be said about the engines...

@MrOscar5690

3 жыл бұрын

@@KirkKreifels My point is.. hybrid battery failure is not really a point of concern. If it is concern, then engine failure should be a concern as well.. and if it is, don’t buy a car at all. 🤷‍♂️

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

For many buyers who are scared of change, it is a concern. In reality the likelihood of needing a new battery during the first 10 years is quite low. Still it's under warranty. Trust me, I own a Toyota hybrid, it doesn't worry me at all. But to many it does.

@MrOscar5690

3 жыл бұрын

@@KirkKreifels I would agree it is a concern... to a FEW.. the tech has been around 20 years.. that number of concerned buyers will continue to decrease.. I just don’t see hybrid as a “con” is to the sienna .. seems like a cheap shot. Lol

But real question is how did you get all the kids to be quiet in the car? Lol

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Experience hahaha

I've had bad luck with 2 odyssey. Never again.

I love honda but I need fuel economy I will change to Toyota

I love how the girls r in the videos

The rear air vents are the worst part of this van. They are small and not overhead. Everyone reviews this van from a drive perspective but forget why one buys a minivan, "Passengers". Try riding in the back of that thing during a Florida summer and you will gain a new perspective. I have owned three of them and will not be buying a fourth largely due to poor rear ventilation which Honda changed in 2018.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

I can see how this can be an issue. My kids never complained of being hot in the 90 degree weather, adults may have a different perspective

Check out CarsGuide (Australia) 2021-22 Odyssey

Sorry, Toyota just lost a customer when they went to hybrid only vans. Will never buy that van. I own 3 Toyota vehicles currently and if this continues, will not be buying any in the future.

Kirk, it's chrome plated plastic.....

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Yup. Looks like chrome.

@chrissynowiec2109

3 жыл бұрын

😁 I used to work for an automotive supplier that made trim parts like these. It's a pretty amazing process.

It's Hybrid?

VCM cylinder deactivation ruins the whole deal with unreliable prospect of Honda Engines. Fortunately Honda transmission is better these days unlike early 2000s

@tails300

3 жыл бұрын

Wow! so this had both stop/start and cylinder deactivation 😫.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Luckily it can be deactivated

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Vcm can be turned off that is

Woohoo 115k

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

3:00 Im a 40 year old man with no kids and happy. LOL Do ppl with kids and minivans really care about 0-60 or is that just me being ignorant? I cant imagine that with the "baby on board" sicker out back. LOL I mean when im on my V4S im extremely cautious around mini vans. They are not to be trusted for good reason, being distracted i get it.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Nope, but I still like to have fun and test 😎 also, Honda might be able to claim fastest minivan on the market too 🤣

I love the odyssey for the most part but that gas mileage is brutal. I’m about 50% sure I’m going to trade in my CX5 for Chrysler Pacifica plug in Hybrid. I love my CX5, but my needs have changed. It’s a perfect daily driver and gets good gas mileage, its just starting to feel a bit too small. I don’t want to go back to a sedan, and I promised myself my next vehicle would have a pano roof and a plug.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Go for the the Pacifica pHv!

He said "Longevity" and forgot Toyota transmission are far superior compared to Honda when it comes to reliability. That new Honda 10 speed hasn't been tested so give us an update in 10 years.

@warhmonger

3 жыл бұрын

@@chezzyperson3339 "should be" doesn't mean reliable.. There's a reason why Honda went with a ZF 9 speed. The reasoning for it was Honda transmissions although better then most wasn't long-term reliable and at the time didn't have time for their engineers to create a new higher speed automatic transmission that’s reliable. Toyota on the other hand will keep using old outdated reliable mechanical parts instead of letting you buy something that will break down 5-10 years down the road.

@warhmonger

3 жыл бұрын

@@chezzyperson3339 I know and agree.. It was the typical but true statement about Toyota. Old, reliable, conservative and profitable.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

Toyota no longer has a true transmission with the hybrid, but a power split device which is very reliable too.

The Sienna would've won but having killed off the ODD drive in its latest iteration becomes the biggest deal breaker (a NO NO for a family minivan). Glad Honda still remains the center dash BD deck on selected models (Odyssey, Pilot)......

Is it better than the Kia Carnival ⁉️❗

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

That I want to find out.

Third

I need AWD

I still like the 2020 Sienna

If it were my money, I’d go for the Sienna. I think the Sienna looks better. The side view of the Odyssey just doesn’t jive with me. The Sienna will likely be more reliable as well. Honda Odyssey’s have had ongoing transmission and injector issues for years. The extra gas mileage is icing on the cake.

@KirkKreifels

3 жыл бұрын

10 speed in the Honda should be a much better solution than the old 9 speed.

I love mini van dad reviews. I may trade my 2016 Odyssey for the new Kia. #dadlife

Chrysler is the best selling Minivan!✌️😊

TOYOTA EVERYDAY

KIA Carnival for my brood

Sienna is so much better imo. The only thing the Sienna really needs to be perfect is Pano Roof.

Sorry Pacifica is far better

the Honda Odyssey has a bad reputation for having trouble with transmissions dying early and being expensive to replace.

The civic steering wheel cheapens the great interior

Sienna looks much better