Is Suspension A Good Idea For A Trials Bike?

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My hero's in trials riding all seemed to run some kind of front suspension and I could never really figure out why, it's heavier, less accurate and expensive. I decided to give it a try with some borrowed Rockshox Pike DJ forks that are blatantly too long for the geometry to see what the fuss was about...I ended up getting very surprised!
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  • @alexspeedpro2254
    @alexspeedpro22543 жыл бұрын

    “Feels like im landing on a sponge” wait till this guy finds out about downhill bikes

  • @WeekendFilmCo

    @WeekendFilmCo

    3 жыл бұрын

    Downhill fork on trials frame

  • @iljamuraschov

    @iljamuraschov

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@WeekendFilmCo Sam Pilgrim style haha

  • @ziondakota5210

    @ziondakota5210

    3 жыл бұрын

    Dunno if you guys gives a damn but if you are bored like me during the covid times then you can watch pretty much all of the new movies and series on instaflixxer. Have been binge watching with my brother for the last few days xD

  • @nicochristopher8846

    @nicochristopher8846

    3 жыл бұрын

    @Zion Dakota Definitely, I have been watching on KaldroStream for since december myself :)

  • @snipesboii
    @snipesboii4 жыл бұрын

    Ouh man the good old "glas in Glasgow" joke😂👌🏻

  • @3Dsjk
    @3Dsjk4 жыл бұрын

    When I was a kid, a mullet bike was a 24” or 26” bike with a 20” BMX wheel on the front because the kid smashed up the other one and that’s all they could ‘obtain’. Legally or otherwise.

  • @blackmetalgoat9060
    @blackmetalgoat90604 жыл бұрын

    14:05 hopefully the forks dont blow up ...Lets try it again !

  • @genio5500

    @genio5500

    4 жыл бұрын

    thx!!

  • @tonioplamio8197

    @tonioplamio8197

    4 жыл бұрын

    Used im big slopestyle contests do you expect it to blow?

  • @blackmetalgoat9060

    @blackmetalgoat9060

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@tonioplamio8197 1. Slopestyle contests have smooth landings. 2. It was Ali himself that said hoefully the forks dont blow up.

  • @tonioplamio8197

    @tonioplamio8197

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@blackmetalgoat9060 it will survive tho because it is made for allot of abuse

  • @adammoonface
    @adammoonface4 жыл бұрын

    Trials on a dirt jumper would be interesting

  • @eldelabicidecolores

    @eldelabicidecolores

    4 жыл бұрын

    Yee! I want one of those, as I recently bought a Dirt Jumper, and I'm trying to learn trials on it too. It's a 24 inch. Of course I'm using two brakes.

  • @bondomingo6837

    @bondomingo6837

    3 жыл бұрын

    I recently converted my Dj bike that I just bought earlier this week to a trials bike since it's pretty difficult to buy trials bike here in the Philippines. All in all it's pretty great!

  • @5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679

    @5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679

    3 жыл бұрын

    what is usually size of dirt jumper??

  • @bondomingo6837

    @bondomingo6837

    3 жыл бұрын

    @@5sos-dontstopthevamps-rest679 26inch

  • @dubs4862

    @dubs4862

    3 жыл бұрын

    just ad a front brake

  • @whitstodghill6128
    @whitstodghill61284 жыл бұрын

    Ali, I really like your comment about trying to keep your videos family-friendly. You've surely go lots of young viewers who will look up to you and want to imitate you - glad you take that seriously. Also, like your comment about keeping your body safe to extend your riding years. Starting bike trials at 60, I really get that idea. If I can practice skills at low heights or near soft surfaces - I am all for that!

  • @nikolapaspalj4954
    @nikolapaspalj49544 жыл бұрын

    By far my favourite youtuber and rider! I ride trials on my mtb but soon i'll buy a inspired flow 2020 and its all because of you! keep up the good work Ali!

  • @TheNonsenseAdventures
    @TheNonsenseAdventures4 жыл бұрын

    "wearing grey on a grey day".. Except those shoes! I could see them from my flat!!!

  • @TheNonsenseAdventures

    @TheNonsenseAdventures

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ali_Clarkson haha trudat!! haha!!

  • @corpsenugget455

    @corpsenugget455

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ali_Clarkson I live in Glasgow and I've recently got a trials bike but I'm struggling to find good locations. Any recommendations?

  • @JoeJanickiDesigns
    @JoeJanickiDesigns3 жыл бұрын

    I love hearing you talk about bikes. You were always a legend rider and now I feel like I know you a little better as a person

  • @bikehacker
    @bikehacker4 жыл бұрын

    nice... I remember Hans Rey always riding the GT Zaskar with a Judy SL. I still have a 26" trial bike with a judy SL and the fork was really stiff by that time :-)

  • @devononair

    @devononair

    4 жыл бұрын

    Ah, Hans Rey! What a rider!

  • @roadlesstraveledd
    @roadlesstraveledd4 жыл бұрын

    My mind is blown that Ali is my age, thought you were much younger, makes me like you even more dude ride on!

  • @davidportej
    @davidportej4 жыл бұрын

    Super interesting video idea again 🙂 always excited when a notification about a new upload from you pops up

  • @fraanzfan8158
    @fraanzfan81584 жыл бұрын

    Finally! I wanted this kind of video for so long but never foundit, Thanks!

  • @letojay1652
    @letojay16524 жыл бұрын

    Up to front looks so scary i can just imagine eating the wall if to low u got skills🤙

  • @seancov3441
    @seancov34414 жыл бұрын

    I haven’t had a chance to watch this yet and I will later this afternoon but for now I just wanna day that your really stepping up your content so far in 2020.. you’re doin great Ali..

  • @RomainJoubert
    @RomainJoubert4 жыл бұрын

    Ask Hans Rey, Jeff Lenosky or Ryan Leech. They used to ride trial with suspension fork 15-20y ago. :)

  • @gtasomogyi

    @gtasomogyi

    4 жыл бұрын

    And Jeff is a giant with his almost 2m and ~100kg (as I know). :)

  • @robertdziubek9492
    @robertdziubek94924 жыл бұрын

    Man, this kind of videos is amazing

  • @spagettmaster3429
    @spagettmaster34294 жыл бұрын

    Love your channel! Always keepin it interesting 👌

  • @Jukofri
    @Jukofri4 жыл бұрын

    I enjoy seeing you ride so much Ali! Love your riding style, soo smooth and clean... keep up those super sick Videos!🔥🙏🏼

  • @Luquetupapa
    @Luquetupapa4 жыл бұрын

    Subbed. I love your honest style, and edit style to let us mortals know that some persistence and will is needed to reach our goals. Keep it up mate!!

  • @joegatrill6634
    @joegatrill66344 жыл бұрын

    Staggering skills! You're smashing 2020!

  • @gafrers
    @gafrers4 жыл бұрын

    Wonderful. Loving all this new experimentation. Keep it up.

  • @stefang.690
    @stefang.6904 жыл бұрын

    Super nice video, Ali! Love the combination of riding, talking, fun, laughs and new things! Looking forward to your next video! Cheers! ❤️

  • @maisumaqueda
    @maisumaqueda4 жыл бұрын

    Dayum, you make everything look so easy! Mad props

  • @PeepMeRide
    @PeepMeRide4 жыл бұрын

    Great video Ali! When I first got my Hex I thought my wrist were going to break off because I was so used to suspension and as you know not very fluid. I wasn't sure I was going to be able to continue but I finally got over it in my wrists. I'm still battling tendonitis in my elbow (for like 8 months now!) which I think suspect is partly to do with me riding a rigid fork, partly sucking and partly being old. I've wondered if having a little bit of suspension would be a little easier on me. It's good to see that having front suspension didn't really make that big of difference on techniques as I thought it would. Then again, you're super human! Cheers!

  • @aaron.biketrials
    @aaron.biketrials4 жыл бұрын

    I had forks on my t-rex for a while. Was fun!

  • @mudprod
    @mudprod4 жыл бұрын

    I like the tone of your commentary, always calm and clear and never boring! Very interesting. I have seen Danny and Duncan a few time in the streets, never been lucky enough to meet you yet, maybe one day!

  • @zanderthegrate837
    @zanderthegrate8374 жыл бұрын

    This brings back so many memories of my early trials days here in Canada, Circa 1998 Jeff Lenosky Ryan Leech North Shore Represent 🤘

  • @James-dn1hu
    @James-dn1hu4 жыл бұрын

    Looks really cool, very interesting to have different ideas and mixing things up as a pose to just riding normally

  • @qibble455
    @qibble4554 жыл бұрын

    I really enjoyed this video. Great info well presented. 10/10

  • @user-us1dz3ls3q
    @user-us1dz3ls3q4 жыл бұрын

    Sick video as always

  • @baldomiglecz2520
    @baldomiglecz25204 жыл бұрын

    This is the video i needed thank you! I was confused about doing trials on my dirt jumper!

  • @21fuz
    @21fuz4 жыл бұрын

    You raise my spirit to come back riding with the same setup (26" chromo frame trials with front suspension).. thanks :)

  • @ObviousAlias
    @ObviousAlias4 жыл бұрын

    Nice vid - interesting concept. You brought up some old school riders running front and (sometimes) rear suspension. I wonder how much of that was rider driven versus sponsors pushing new products? In Hans Rey's heyday, there wasn't the breadth of biking disciplines. Within mountain biking, it was pretty much just XC, DH, and way off to the side was trials but the bikes hadn't become nearly as distinct or specialized. Keep it up sir!

  • @th_js
    @th_js4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome video again Ali

  • @sabakvavilashvili8239
    @sabakvavilashvili82394 жыл бұрын

    Great video! Shows that if you have skills, you can ride anything!

  • @neverforget4546
    @neverforget45464 жыл бұрын

    Ali ist und bleibt der geilste 👍

  • @afgspecial

    @afgspecial

    4 жыл бұрын

    kann er deutsch?

  • @noahbagel177

    @noahbagel177

    3 жыл бұрын

    Deutsch!

  • @keelanbell9821
    @keelanbell98214 жыл бұрын

    Love the new helmet Ali 👌🤘🤙🤙

  • @EG3HC
    @EG3HC4 жыл бұрын

    Instant ‘like’ for a big drop at the beginning of the vid 👍🏻

  • @AntiDEDok
    @AntiDEDok4 жыл бұрын

    Wow! Crazy to see how precised are your hops. Both rear and front wheel positioning. Crazy skills as always! Now I should teach some tricks on front wheel too, you showed us, that it is doable with sus fork

  • @jevadajones1645
    @jevadajones1645 Жыл бұрын

    Perfect perfect perfect and easy to set up!👍🏾

  • @MrUnbatron
    @MrUnbatron4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome stuff! Keep up the good content. Nice to see how you keep pushing yourself to get it to the standard you wanted. Glasgow is very grey unfortunately when it’s wet. Which is often. 😂

  • @djSpinege
    @djSpinege4 жыл бұрын

    Ryan Leech has been running suspension for about 20 years :D

  • @dickensrivers9862
    @dickensrivers98624 жыл бұрын

    series of fails at 4:30 more educational than most tutorial videos achieve...kudos for the honesty

  • @mountaincruiser817
    @mountaincruiser8174 жыл бұрын

    I love your riding and try some trials style myself but I can relate to what you where saying about the style of bike. The best video for me was when you did the trials bit on your 5010. Normal trials stands far from normal mountainbiking and just a small croud looks at this. But if you go on your full sus like Akrigg then a whole lot of non trials guys get “inspired” ;-p. Keep up the good work Ali, hope you don't feel the blues to much these days.

  • @venommortalis8456
    @venommortalis84564 жыл бұрын

    Thinking out of the box is pretty cool :-) good ideas you have :-)

  • @greasyfingerprints
    @greasyfingerprints4 жыл бұрын

    We use reverse mullet, 26 rear 24 front, on our mail delivery bikes in Australia. It allows the front load to be lower which is more stable. Been that way for nearly 30 years.

  • @bengray5013
    @bengray50134 жыл бұрын

    Years ago I ran a marzochi short travel fork on my rocket pro trials frame... made it really fun for street, the preload of the forks worked well for big bunny hops up walls, etc

  • @tharunshiv
    @tharunshiv4 жыл бұрын

    Ali this literally looks just like my bike now haha! Awesome video btw! 💯

  • @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy
    @Clint_the_Audio-Photo_Guy4 жыл бұрын

    Back in the 90's when I rode trials, I never rode without a front shock on my 26" bike (which was a modified mountain bike), so it just seemed normal to me. I had a rigid fork on my 20" bike and if you didn't land right from high drop offs, you'd definitely feel it.

  • @yusufunlu3530
    @yusufunlu35304 жыл бұрын

    9:13 What a smooth front whel action :)

  • @jamesmincher3435
    @jamesmincher34354 жыл бұрын

    Bike looks amazing with them forks I would keep

  • @kjetilavset9503
    @kjetilavset95034 жыл бұрын

    Really good content you are puting out man! 👍👍 How about doing a video about geometry, pros and cons. Like to see you compare the pink and the blu 😊

  • @nigelkilgarMTB
    @nigelkilgarMTB4 жыл бұрын

    Bringing back the Ryan leech style trials bike 👍🏻

  • @xpndblhero5170
    @xpndblhero51704 жыл бұрын

    That last spot w/ the posts and stuff in the ground was really cool... I'd even ride BMX there.

  • @MichaelStugart
    @MichaelStugart4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome experiment!

  • @tarpnarp
    @tarpnarp4 жыл бұрын

    9:36 idk why but this just blew my mind. Mad skillz

  • @jackhume4532
    @jackhume45324 жыл бұрын

    Hi Ali another great film, but as far as suspension forks go I myself find them hard going but as I am fifty next month I do admit to preferring RIGID forks up front and with my hard mountain bike I pretty much ride with the forks locked and so I am thinking about swapping these out for Rigid forks instead and I also have a set of SE RACING BMX cruiser handlebars on this 29er hardtail of mine. However I think that experimenting is always a good idea and without this we would never know if it is right or wrong.

  • @jamesbtrials
    @jamesbtrials4 жыл бұрын

    Nice!!! Suspension FTW. Those hooks scared me though! I'm not doing those with mine, even though it is possible.

  • @MaGrath_Gibbons
    @MaGrath_Gibbons4 жыл бұрын

    It looks so good

  • @2Swift4u
    @2Swift4u4 жыл бұрын

    I actually once asked Hans about this and he told me exactly what you said about the bike being more relatable. He wanted to promote mountainbiking hence he used a "normal" mtb with suspension that people could relate to.

  • @calisthenicslegion6747
    @calisthenicslegion67474 жыл бұрын

    I love how the bike is always quiet :D

  • @AlexSalikan
    @AlexSalikan4 жыл бұрын

    I genuinely can't believe how well that worked! I've also heard from one 90s pro that he originally switched to suspension to be able to ride more moto style, carrying speed and rolling more stuff. Would be interesting to hear if there's anything to that.

  • @AAKASHYADAV-ng2or
    @AAKASHYADAV-ng2or4 жыл бұрын

    Nice job 👍, your bike is awesome 🤸

  • @AAKASHYADAV-ng2or

    @AAKASHYADAV-ng2or

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@Ali_Clarkson thanks for replying me I'm very happy 😃

  • @roadlesstraveledd
    @roadlesstraveledd4 жыл бұрын

    Awesome test. I've been a sub since you had less than 1k subs. Always thought it was crazy you didn't have more, come a long way Ali, keep up great work :)

  • @likamuuk
    @likamuuk4 жыл бұрын

    Sad that u dont have 100k yet :/ sick video🤙👍

  • @The27Clang
    @The27Clang4 жыл бұрын

    Ali, any chance of you doing anymore front wheel tutorials?? Id love to see front wheel hops, fakie nose manuals or g-turns! Been trying for ages and your tutorial videos are really helpful. Great riding as always!

  • @sapinva
    @sapinva4 жыл бұрын

    What you have there is a dirt jump bike with a slightly high BB. Kind of funny because my "trials" bike is an Octane Void with a rigid 29er fork. It kills my wrists on drops, and I have often wondered about going with a 100mm DJ fork w/ 300 lbs of air.

  • @benedictmannion8370
    @benedictmannion83703 жыл бұрын

    Stg yt at the moment! I just looked and it said I was unsubbed! Been subbed for years and ofc I immediately resubscribed. Hate this algorithm

  • @nukapeterstenskov1866
    @nukapeterstenskov18663 жыл бұрын

    Yes, Its good, I did that to my bike :-)

  • @hulyan8944
    @hulyan89443 жыл бұрын

    3 yrs ago i have a two brake dj bike that i rode trials. Twas a Da Bomb Tora Bora with Duke U turn Shocks. Then upgraded to Sonic Boom 26", then into a rigid fork. Till now im riding a DJ-built-trials bike. The only thing with older supension models is its heavy weight and high wear and tear, but handy when doing higher drops.

  • @user-pq2tr2ix3u
    @user-pq2tr2ix3u3 жыл бұрын

    How does this guy only have 100 k he deserves wayyyyy more he is a god

  • @stephenkillin9730
    @stephenkillin97304 жыл бұрын

    1:40 We in texas like to tip cows.... I never thought about tipping flies. 🤔 lol, thanks for the good content... That drop in the opener is ridiculous

  • @Clin270
    @Clin2704 жыл бұрын

    Maybe look at handlebar-mounted lockouts if you end up testing another pair of forks later. Nice video!

  • @allloveulsan7850
    @allloveulsan78504 жыл бұрын

    That's great It's so cool

  • @lipe2192
    @lipe21924 жыл бұрын

    Hey Ali! Thanks for all your content, i love watching your videos! I have a question. which Five Ten shoes do you use?

  • @LorenzpambalkTRIALS
    @LorenzpambalkTRIALS4 жыл бұрын

    hey ali, another "most entertaining video of the week", but i do ave a question, why did you go back to the original sprung tensioner. I like your titantium design very much, so much indeed i had to make one for my fourplay aswell :)

  • @hgmedia1
    @hgmedia13 жыл бұрын

    Hey Ali great vids. I've always ran front suspension (no lockout) ans my bunny hop is always lacking power seeing you experiment makes me want to switch to rigid. Could you do a vid on rigid forks for street riding? Thanks and keep up the great work!!!

  • @crazysurgeon9372
    @crazysurgeon93724 жыл бұрын

    Stoked that you're riding the Danny Mac signature Stamps

  • @zepp3lin
    @zepp3lin3 жыл бұрын

    That carbon LB rim definitely can take all the abuse. Looks like I make a good decision, just bought it.

  • @christiantabangay3202
    @christiantabangay32023 жыл бұрын

    Bmx and trial bikes is what i love. I dont have 1 yet but 1 day i shall and i will practise hard

  • @CXLIII
    @CXLIII4 жыл бұрын

    While watching your videos I've noticed your drops are so smooth and nice and could you tell me some tips or tricks to not land so forcefully everytime I even go off a small bump. Say I drive off a sidewalk onto road, even the like 4 inch drop hurts my wrists and arse (kinda the same way you dropped down that wall at like 14:07 but its only 4 inches)

  • @lordmarshall5239
    @lordmarshall52394 жыл бұрын

    I’ve seen Hans Rey do this in the 90s. He talked about the advantages but I’m old and it was long enough ago I can’t remember what he said😊. I think I remember something about clipping the front tire on something and having that give help you get up as one

  • @acalabash
    @acalabash4 жыл бұрын

    Martin Ashton also mentioned putting a sus fork on a tiny trials frame to do eleven foot drops in one of GMBN videos, so I guess it must be kind of a life stage for trials legends

  • @zknarc

    @zknarc

    4 жыл бұрын

    There were also pics of him in the late 90s/2000s MBUK pieces with headshock forks occasionally.

  • @Ricochetmex
    @Ricochetmex4 жыл бұрын

    I would love to see if you can do trials on a dirt jump bike, maybe just with a lower gear ratio and high rise bars. Hopefully one day you’ll have a dirtjumper to play with haha

  • @callummclachlan4771

    @callummclachlan4771

    4 жыл бұрын

    Would like to see it too. I have a dirt jumper but stupidly I don't jump it (just nowhere nearby really). Would be cool to see what an actual trials rider can do with one. Maybe even motivate me to do it too, and try in an area that isn't built up or in the forest either.

  • @alimantado373

    @alimantado373

    4 жыл бұрын

    I have a dirt jumper and I do trials on it :) 25t 9t WITH REAR CASSETTE AND PRESSED bb IT WORKS.

  • @Anon.G

    @Anon.G

    4 жыл бұрын

    @@callummclachlan4771 DJ's have decent enough geometry that you could begin for sure. Just look at Danny on his full suspension

  • @ollianddelphine

    @ollianddelphine

    3 жыл бұрын

    His balance is so good he could probably do it on a track bike.

  • @user-hl2gb2gk1p
    @user-hl2gb2gk1p4 жыл бұрын

    I ride on a soft fork and I like it, maybe not so professionally but it's cool and comfortable) I also changed the settings of the fork , reduced the volume of the air chambers, which reduced the swing

  • @Reddingadventurehub
    @Reddingadventurehub4 жыл бұрын

    I’d love to see you try with an 80mm fork. Seems like it would suit the geometry better. Very cool video. I’ve always ran forks on my 26” trials bikes.

  • @amd65ak47
    @amd65ak474 жыл бұрын

    I couldn't do this s*** in 20 years practicing you got skills dude

  • @BruceChastain
    @BruceChastain4 жыл бұрын

    great video. I really want to get into trials, just basic stuff.

  • @baconfister
    @baconfister4 жыл бұрын

    I’m eager to see how the bike does on proper dirt jump and pump track, and techy singletrack… aside from some geometry disparities you’ve essentially transformed the bike into a dirt jumper with the 100mm squishy fork.

  • @bookingit3841
    @bookingit38414 жыл бұрын

    THOSE HUUUUUGE SMOOTH HOPS UP THOSE MASSIVE STAIRS, SELL MY SOUL FOR HOPS LIKE THAT

  • @callumscorner65
    @callumscorner654 жыл бұрын

    Ur amazing at trials

  • @ironthor3471
    @ironthor34714 жыл бұрын

    I see an advantage with using those forks it would be good practice because if you can get used to that it'll be a lot easier the ride with your Ridgid forks

  • @DJRipGroove99
    @DJRipGroove994 жыл бұрын

    Man, G-turns look so smooth, I could never get the hang of those back in my trials days :-(

  • @RUSSM8
    @RUSSM84 жыл бұрын

    Great video Ali! Surely someone can sort you out a set of 80mm fox 36 or Pike DJ's!

  • @VoinNektarinka
    @VoinNektarinka4 жыл бұрын

    Cool idea! Soft drop

  • @jeffreyladzekpo3477
    @jeffreyladzekpo34773 жыл бұрын

    "It's like I'm wearing camouflage! Can you even see me?" His shoes: *Hey how are ya*

  • @asjmpickle
    @asjmpickle4 жыл бұрын

    This is definitely something i needed to know as i currently have am atomlab dirt jump bike and was wondering if I just changed the frame to a trials frame what would it be like.

  • @sapinva

    @sapinva

    4 жыл бұрын

    I'd like to know that as well.

  • @captjerski4165
    @captjerski41657 ай бұрын

    My dj bike I made similar to your bike, my rigid forks did not raise the BB a bit and my front wheel lift not consistent so I put a 100mm fork and it did well, I also ask tips from trials rider James Barton who uses dj bike for trials.

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