For 2,000 dollars you could get Omnisphere,Keyscape,Serum,Diva,Sylenth1 and Avenger and have money left over.

@martinohlson6027

4 жыл бұрын

Jamel Banner It’s insane how overpriced this sound library (aka Nexus) is. Tired of the same sound? Just buy another 70 USD expansion 🙃

@katseazzz

4 жыл бұрын

or a virus ti

@miscellaneous1276

4 жыл бұрын

And thats not the most expensive version.

@mickeydavenport6245

4 жыл бұрын

Leave Steve Harvey out of his >~>

@allinonethegreat

4 жыл бұрын

Or you can be like me and get all of that shit for free lol I just don’t have Nexus 3 yet lol waiting for that code crack lol

The new factory sounds is in the ROM Extension 2 Library.

Great to hear your thoughts on this, Shane! Happy to find a critical review that doesn't seem to have been bought and paid for by the manufacturer.

@EchoSoundWorks

4 жыл бұрын

woodenhatrecords thank you, glad it helped 👍

@HorstDerHoden22

2 жыл бұрын

Shane Diesel

Nice video. Thanks. I use Nexus a lot so I was really happy to hear about and purchase the upgrade. It’s an expensive habit but worth it to me if you’re doing any type of electronic music. Great that they ‘gave’ you 350 extra sounds but they needed to update that whole old preset library that comes with it. Very happy with the update and looking forward to future added functionality.

Nexus is GREAT ... as a final instrument in a production. Just to add that sweetness. Massive and others build the meat. Nexus is an icing. Light.

reFX sells perpetual licenses but handle it like a monthly subscription license. After one month, NO INTERNET = NO NEXUS 3 That's for me absolute unacceptable condition, no way Mr. Hartman & Mr. Schleis !!!

Thank you so much for this info!

Thanks for the review. I’ve been looking to get into nexus for awhile but will now check out avenger!

thank you echo for you review the best out there, always a good teacher

@EchoSoundWorks

4 жыл бұрын

Thank you 🙏🙏🙏🙏

Thanks for the advice. I love the avenger, can get a great sound with the presets or a few tweaks of some effects. Always have supported vengeance products. There is also a fix around regarding cpu spikes.

Honestly I just want Nexus for those *_juicy_* Hollywood expansions :'v I'd legit only use Nexus for organic, real sounding instruments like Violins, Pianos, Brasses etc etc. They sound *_REALLY_* good. I know them Kontakt libraries might be arguably better but still 👀

Finally a quality review of Nexus 3.

Manuel from Vengeance is the sound designer for both Nexus and Avenger (there are other sound designers who work with him but I think he's the main one behind both products). Avenger still has potential for 3rd party preset packs, since anyone can create those and sell them just like you can with any other synths and you can still get the expansions that Manuel creates with similar sounds to those he creates for Nexus.

I memba when I used Nexus for a little. idk that I could use it again; preset surfing is tough these days now that there's so many good synthesis tools out there.

This is awesome!! I was wondering when nexus was going to come out with a new version!

Any thoughts on making echo sound works avenger expansions?

can you lock the sequence and change the sound?

Which edition of Nexus 3 is this? Is this the most expensive one or the cheapest one? I am asking cause I wanna know if the sounds he uses in this video are available for the cheapest one or if I have to buy a bunch of pack to use the sounds that he uses?

Bro how have you got 63 in your folder ? Av only 20 a just downloaded it today £209 did you get a different one ?

Amazing review!

@EchoSoundWorks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks!

Great video for us music enthusiasts. Torn on nexus or avenger. Got avenger on sale last week for $125. Been enjoying it very much. I will still be getting nexus at some point. I love to have multiple options when it comes to synths.

Thanks for the review Shane . It saved me some $$ .I never bought in to Nexus .Too busy occupied with Komplete , Halion ,Cubase Etc. I DID check out Avenger and immediately bought it .Thanks again...

@alvarezgamers

4 жыл бұрын

Avenger is a beassssssst

@martinohlson6027

4 жыл бұрын

alexander plasko Avenger is the right choice. You can a) create any sound imaginable and b) Avenger has Nexus 3 sounding presets that you can tweak however you want or use as a basis for new sounds. The possibilities are endless.

Awesome and useful tutorial

Great review! And agree they should have made it visable to see which patches are new.

A very Honest Reviewe.. Thanks

The sounds from the basic package are great. I would recommend adding Analog and a few packs in your preferred genre to start. As far as Avenger, it is much more powerful but much slower to load sounds and has a much higher memory footprint. Better for sound design but not for quick composing.

@EchoSoundWorks

3 жыл бұрын

Thanks for the tips!

Salut, pourrais tu me dire comment passer Les sequence de nexus 3 a fl studio. Metre les sequences sur une piste ou le chanel rack. je ne sais pas comment faire Je te remercie.

You have to pay for the sounds ? I saw the website each pack is like $50!

The only reason I'd want to upgrade is to make browsing the library quicker and easier to read. Literally nothing else has really changed from the point of view of how I use it. I can already turn off layers in Nexus 2, and when it comes to arpegiators and effects... well I don't really use them, I tend to play sections by hand and apply effects in my DAW. The upgrade price is tempting though, and getting one step closer to being dongle-less is a bonus. Its just unfortunate that Cubase still requires the same dongle, so I'll be stuck with it for a little while longer anyway. The one question still remaining for me is this..... if I have a Nexus 2 project in progress, will Nexus 3 be backwards compatible with it? If not, that pretty much puts a stop on any chance of me upgrading. Thanks for the video. A very nice overview and much more informative than the one on the Refx website.

Thanks!

I've actually stopped using nexus as much since I got my new mac because of the dongle. Not needing the dongle would make me start using it more. Also do you need your dongle to register your upgrade to nexus 3? Cuz that would be a cheaper solution for everyone who lost or broke their dongle.

nice..but still no in synce tempo with DAW.!!..eapecialy when using a arp instr.. when i just a bit before or after the beat play?? it gets very messy and blurry on sound. so i still need to use an externe arpegio to keep in sync with ritme.

how does your keyboard light up like that ?

Does it have all the old sounds from nexus 2?

The last thing I need or worry about its a arpeggiator in a virtual instrument.... honestly Second one is - build in effects.

does Nexus have a latch mode for the Arp?

i dont see aproblem with nexus three,it looks easy to use and thats thre poit(though the skin is a little dull looks like cheap sound are inside,it doesnt call you to play it),otherwiseall sound are there in a bigger window,that should make the work easy,and all i really need from it is the sounds not the interface ...Im gonna try it

Hello ! Is posible to transfer the N3 license ? I bought N3 from a person who has 4 licenses and says one of them cannot be transferred to my ReFX account. I received the email and password from his account. However, I would like it to be my property without having any connection with the person from whom I bought. I received N3 with 79 expansions that are used on all 4 licenses. Thanks in advance for the answers !!!

@mthomas1091

4 жыл бұрын

LogicPro Music ReFx support ticket emails have always worked well for help. There’s an official way to do it (& ReFx will message you when it’s completed etc). I hope you didn’t mean you wanted to split up licenses from someone’s single-purchase-which-includes-2-licenses. I doubt that will work. If one N3 purchase includes 2 licenses, I’d doubt you can split that up between different accounts.

Can you do nexus vs ominsphere ?

Will this app work if I am in a secluded retreat to work for a mont or so without internet service?

@CyberEditing

4 жыл бұрын

Yes, I have both Nexus 2 & 3. Used Nexus since 2012

can I use my Korg Trinity with this?

I bought it with several expansions and ended up with more sounds than nexus 3 complete package 😂😂 avenger is sweet too. I have it and uvi falcon with electra2. Needless to see the possibility of sound is endless lol

More than that!

Biggest question: Can you edit the LFO in chords and sequences?

@EchoSoundWorks

4 жыл бұрын

Live Drops ima check right now

@air4588

4 жыл бұрын

@@EchoSoundWorks and? Are you able to?

@jacobengelbreth6227

4 жыл бұрын

@@air4588 Also wondering ^_^

@PapunaOfficial

4 жыл бұрын

uhh

@vlefteris

4 жыл бұрын

@@EchoSoundWorks Live Drops ima check right now...zzzzz 2 months have passed....

Does anyone have an idea on if it is possible to run nexus 2 and nexus 3 at the same time? Like seperate plugins?

@Zalanes

3 жыл бұрын

No. If you already have a licence for 2, and upgrade to 3 on the same refx account. Guess it might be possible, now, without the dongle, by opening a completely new account under a different email address, but you’d have to pay full price for 3. Having said that, your IP address may be a hurdle to running both instances on the same machine, as it may not be possible to have 2 refx cloud accounts on the same machine.

Gonna be quite frank with you; while i like the whole upgraded look and features of Nexus this Vst would be really be better IF you could layer your own sounds from any Category folder. They missed the mark on that. ReFx would sell like hot cakes even more if this feature was implemented.

@EchoSoundWorks

4 жыл бұрын

Agree 💯

Can it go off line. Off of the internet can you mix real instruments into it ? Thank you .

How do i add nexus3 to fl studio 20

its the base £200 version worth it? I saw you can buy packs fitet to your style seperately.

@GenosGlory

4 жыл бұрын

Sound Engineer Звукоинженер Thank You

@GenosGlory

4 жыл бұрын

Sound Engineer Звукоинженер Yes you are right. It makes sense 100%. Thanks

how to update ?

Can I prefer Xfer Serum over Refx Nexus !?

4:50 Is it just me or did these reverbs sound really good? Is there an easy way to mimic these outside of nexus?

@pedromartins-ki1wm

4 жыл бұрын

You're looking for ValhallaRoom

@Poats

4 жыл бұрын

@@pedromartins-ki1wm I'll check it out, thanks!

@JohnSmith-ve8pd

4 жыл бұрын

I read that ArtsAcoustic Reverb was the emulated reverb used in Nexus 2

@antrix1331

3 жыл бұрын

TAL reverb 2, which is free, can do the same

Rewrapped EDM banger rompler. Seems like an improvement from V2 but it's just so expensive for what it is.

you can adjust the samples they supply and tweak them ... and most are not buying for pre sets but for the synth excess just my throughts great video thank you

@EchoSoundWorks

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah true! Sometimes I fee a little limited with the tweaking but that could just be me

I want to use Avenger instead of investing in Nexus. Just one problem: one instance kills 6-core machine. It’s unusable at least in Logic. No other synth does this.

@EchoSoundWorks

4 жыл бұрын

Notacet make sure you updated to the latest one and make sure you change the gpu or graphics settings to the eco mode. I had the same thing happen with mine, and I found it’s the damn GUI. Use one of the Satya skins that come with it, the orange one destroys.

@Notacet

4 жыл бұрын

Well what do you know, the newest version with different skin seems to work much better. Thank you!🔥

@EchoSoundWorks

4 жыл бұрын

@@Notacet You're welcome! The CPU spike is an AU issue. It doe not happen with the VST version on a mac in Ableton :(

@QuickmixProductions

4 жыл бұрын

Absolutely, but Nexus3 has more Sounds and is faster.....I have both bot use mostly Nexus.

@winkztypebeat9623

4 жыл бұрын

I tried switching skins but it made no difference :( Im on WIndows 10

WE NEED A STDUIO TOUR! Tose Monitors look crazy

@kelsulls

3 жыл бұрын

www.genelec.com/theones here you go

Would you get Serato sample and Korg Triton vst or the latest Omnisphere ?

@EchoSoundWorks

3 жыл бұрын

So comparing serato sample to Korg triton and omnsiphere is like comparing steak to an apple haha. Way different. What type of music do you make? Triton is cool but you may get more use and miles out of omnisphere if that makes sense

@Rio-uv1gs

3 жыл бұрын

@@EchoSoundWorks ok cool I ended up getting Omnisphere..but Serato sample would be a nice addtion of sampling purposes.

The new presents were in the expansion vol.2 further down, you get a lot of free packs with Nexus off the bat too not just the factory presents, please can you review 1 year later as I feel they have nailed this plugin now, your opinion may improve :)

To be honest the fact that they are using arts acoustic reverb which is $100 is a good selling point

UPDATE: THEY THREATENED ME! What they won't tell you in the video: the copy protection is super buggy. I have it on my desktop and laptop, and it kept deactivating and telling me I have an invalid license on both machines, whenever I open a project that uses it, or I update it. Then I needed to open a support ticket and wait a whole day to have the activation count reset. They never gave any explanation or tried to understand why it happened. They never said sorry. They just copy/pasted the same answer asking to update to the latest version even though I already told them I had the latest version. Today, because I was very annoyed at the reoccurring issue, they said "another outburst like that and YOU WILL BE BANNED". No activation means to way to use the software and samples I paid for. This would be stealing. This is the worst experience I've had with any music company ever, and I've dealt with dozens of them. I have screenshots of everything.

@KenNova

4 жыл бұрын

Yeah, I'm not a big fan of the company either. They're greedy and their customer support is absolutely awful..

@FlatTire

4 жыл бұрын

Ken Nova company? There’s inly 2 people behind this afik

@DaveFromChicago1

4 жыл бұрын

they attempted to SUE ME in 2014!!!! They said i was using an illegal copy basically for the same shit!@

@Edouard16

4 жыл бұрын

Kedzie what really? OMG! Did you document the case?

@koulis2935

4 жыл бұрын

they are shit like their product,this plugin is only for being used cracked for entry level producers and nothing more ,nexus is a scam

So I stay with my VPS Avenger ... Thanks for your fair evaluation ;)

I need horns, anyone have good Plugin suggestions??

Sounds starts at 4:34

i kinda miss the old UI tho

@fucc773

4 жыл бұрын

definitely

PC but I'm going to start using Mac very soon and making tutorials on how to use soft soft on Mac effectively

Via Sounds ... Vengeance Producer Suite - Avenger is the Father / Mother for more and more ...

Thank you for the review this is useful! Please stop saying "this or that is outdated" though, because nothing is outdated when you know how to make it sound new, it's called "talent" ...and it is not delivered with Nexus 3 (or any other plug-in btw) ;-)

@xoxo-pp7ru

4 жыл бұрын

Okboomer

@Fox_is_Fox

4 жыл бұрын

@@xoxo-pp7ru just a hint, age matters ;-) www.cnn.com/2018/06/13/health/falling-iq-scores-study-intl/index.html

And here I am wondering for all these years, how to remake Dyk Pikes in another synth perfectly.

Is it better in any way than the built in alchemy? 🤷‍♂️

@josephstalin188

3 жыл бұрын

No, pretty much the same

I think I know what I want for Christmas

I use N2 a lot and I’d still go Avenger.

Can u put the link from Nexus 3 i try to find for download ahah !!!

after using for 3 months i can say its good for an inspiration yes..but it lacks some important things like multi out and ability to replace -change the sounds from the sequences...yes the sequences are the most interesting part, the sounds are good but its nothing that you cant get on kontakt or hardware synth like modx montage...regards

Nexus? That’s a name I’ve not heard in a long time

how do i download for free on mac?

the program works great

So Avenger is made by the same people ? What is the difference between them ?

@EchoSoundWorks

3 жыл бұрын

Nexus is a rompler and avenger is a synth/sampler. One can create new sounds from scratch, the other can't

I want this :) Is this the $250 version?

Totally control and monitoring

Hmm nexus 3 versus omnisphere 2.6 🤔 what do you think?

@coltoncorley4343

4 жыл бұрын

omnisphere 10000%

60€ is too much for an expansion. UVI & Arturia don't charge anywhere near that much. However I assume Omnisphere expansions are also expensive. I will check out Avenger though.

Can you use avenger in fl studio on a mac ?

@EchoSoundWorks

3 жыл бұрын

Yeah you can

So the new Nexus is not just a Rompler? It is already possible to modulate sounds as in other synthesizers. Certainly Nexus 2 has great ready-to-use presets but modulation would be useful.

@EchoSoundWorks

4 жыл бұрын

It's still a rompler for the end user. You can now modulate sources like LFO, vibrato etc. But it's not a synth. At least the version the end user gets. The people who make the sounds have access the sampler and synth engine that is hidden from the end user.

There is a new Rompler if you’re looking for an alternative. It’s not overpriced and I’ve been using it for a while now. Lethal Audio is a Rompler at half the price especially around the holiday time. Google “lethal audio” and demo it. It’s worth it.

@EchoSoundWorks

4 жыл бұрын

Really wish they wouldn't name presets Lead 01, Lead 02, Lead 03, Lead 44....

Yes i love it

ive been thinking , since this is cloud based why not sale sounds individually you can listen to a preview and buy it with whatever price they can come up with that can cost you 2.5k lol if you buy them all but at least you don't buy a full expansion for a couple of sounds you might use in that expansion and spend your money where you really want to and not get stuck with stuff you paid for but will never use.

@eshy-music

4 жыл бұрын

It's not their business model. They want you to buy a full expansion based on the genre even if you only end up using 10% of it.

A VST with all libraries that costs more than a real polyphonic analog synth like a Prophet is simply a no go. Complete nonsense. Even for half the price you can start to build a little Eurorack. I know this is not the same "customer target", but frankly, it seems completely crazy for me. I used Nexus 2, there were some cool sounds, but most are outdated now. Dune 3, Avenger, some Tone2 VST are really good and cost a fraction of the price of Nexus.

@jordaan80

4 жыл бұрын

Olivier Dahan pirate it :)

@KNHSynths

4 жыл бұрын

@@jordaan80 I know Nexus is the Photoshop of VST : only one person for 1000 is using it legally ... But the problem it is not the price only, most libs are outdated. I've got a lot of legal VST that can do the job, and lot of real gears. I don't need to pirate anything. But I know it will be the case for most users... when a product is overpriced, it is prirated.

@eshy-music

4 жыл бұрын

Comparing it to hardware synths is wrong. Nexus was about getting industry standard sounds, the sounds everyone else was using. For some people that's exactly what they need. They don't want to create their own sounds they just need the sounds that hit record has for their own production. It's an outdated business model. A product that only supports 1st party sound expansions that you can't really tweak and costs more than most software synths that have lots of 3rd party preset packs. Only having those 1st party sounds does guarantee a certain level of quality though, which I guess is what anyone still using Nexus is after.

@KNHSynths

4 жыл бұрын

@@eshy-music Comparing with hardware or other VST is making sense, after all these are tools to produce sounds and make music. They work differently internally but they work the same for the player with a keyboard... When a piece of software is costing more than a great hardware with more possibilities and a unique sound signature it seems reasonable to query the interest to invest in one or the other. For the Nexus 3 price you can buy a Prophet Rev2 + a Novation Peak for example. Sincerely only fools will NOT want to compare before buying... Not mentioning Synths are made to get a personal sound, not to use the same sounds supplied to any customer, it's nonsense, but it is another question. Nexus is sounding great that's true. When you try it you can be pleased by all these sequences so rich that they are almost full orchestrations. But it is unusable in a real context, at least when you write you own music and not just copy/pasting existing sequences... Just a dumb trap. If you want stand out the crowd you will run away far from a so standardized instrument like Nexus.

@millerlight1804

3 жыл бұрын

Olivier Dahan so what do you prefer ? I’m new to this daw stuff I’m old school,I used to make beats on a MPC. I don’t really how to sound design ?

Yeah it’s been a good one

Manuel is a stud, but mike is a first class arse! I try to steer clear of refx and buy vengeance for that principle alone

before 1 day looking for a app that work, finally i found

Best vst

Yes it is 👍

Everyone is mentioning Avenger in the comments? Is this a VST created by Vengeance sound designers? Either way, I feel there’s too many synths being made nowadays to it’s hard to know what you want, especially when you’re coming into the music world. Serum is a go to bc well...if it’s design, the work behind it and everyone basically uses it. But say you want you want to just start making beats - Nexus, Spire, Sylenth1, like how can you advertise this to be new and user friendly. Coming from 2, this actually looks more complicated and overwhelming tbh 😥

You could buy a proper Nord Stage for the same price as Nexus 3. Which does everything Nexus does

@EchoSoundWorks

3 жыл бұрын

Haha pretty much

I will never buy a Refx product again after the way they did me after losing my dongle. I would highly recommend learning synthesis and avoiding Nexus or any other romplers. Creating sounds from scratch is much more rewarding anyway! Save your money and buy Omnisphere or other Spectrasonics software if you want bang for your buck and great customer service if you ever run into problems.

@zendoproducer2727

4 жыл бұрын

Did they ask you to buy a new key after you lost it?

CPU friendly?

Ok Thank i have vps love it. But was looking at nexus because vps don't have some of the expansion

@djGreenALERT

4 жыл бұрын

@Dilla, are you kidding? Avenger has tons of great expansions.

if i open more than one nexus it crashes FL....

Nexus 2 / 3 sound great to me but the dongle is why I don't own 2. Removing that from 3 was a good move...but their expansion pricing still just feels like a gouge. I rarely start a sound completely from scratch. I usually find a preset close to something I like, and then go to town tweaking and altering until I'm happy. I DO have avenger but never use it. It is insanely powerful, and sounds great...But I don't use it because of a few things: 1. it's GUI is awful, and downright confusing. This makes the synth very unapproachable (for me). After exhausting my presets, I have never felt compelled to to master the synth. Instead I've just focused on a honing my skills on a select few of the "core" synths I have that are much easier to use, and still produce great sounds 2. It suffers from a similar expansion pricing problem as Nexus, they're just not competitive in 2019 where I can find preset packs / bundles for very reasonable prices. 3. Very few 3rd party preset packs available...Refer to item 2. I don't see myself getting Nexus 3, because I can still get great sounds I can use and custom fit to my tracks using Sylenth1, Spire and Serum. :)

@Fox_is_Fox

4 жыл бұрын

Exactly! if you're serious about your music it needs more than just a good preset, what's on the radio right now is very minimal, specially in the pop scene, Nexus 2 has already everything inside to make any track you hear on the radios.

I lost my Nexus USB elicenser and haven’t been able to use Nexus 2 for almost 2 years. Finally no usb 👌🏼🙌

@SathyaDrums

3 жыл бұрын

mail to customer care Nexus and ask to reset the usb license and reload again from their website