Cousins that far apart is not inbreeding.

@Charles-7

6 жыл бұрын

Roo there might be a fair point of that

@scuzzycubs2009

6 жыл бұрын

Roo Who said they were cousins? I'm just confused

@itsyoboileo3356

6 жыл бұрын

Roo is it really i dont know

@Briselance

6 жыл бұрын

Roo Exactly.

@zihaojamesguo2057

6 жыл бұрын

i didnt know big mac and marble were dating

They're so distantly related it wouldn't matter if they got together....heck they're so distantly related they don't even KNOW if they're related haha

@hallelujahbrony3263

8 жыл бұрын

+tsukichan4 That is exactly the point of the video! Thanks.

@tsukichan4

8 жыл бұрын

No problem haha

@MercenaryX21

8 жыл бұрын

Hallelujah Brony this reminds me of the debate between the fans of the comic books Sonic the Hedgehog, and how Knuckles the Echidna is related to the one girlfriend he has. It's because he's so distantly related by like 50 generations at the very least that it does not matter at this point.

@alicedrabs1199

8 жыл бұрын

+tsukichan4 And what? They're maybe 4th or 5th cousins and that's okay. And maybe they aren't because where in the Pinkie Apple Pie episode the "Pie" word has wasn't "Pie".

@tsukichan4

8 жыл бұрын

...what?

I feel it isn't inbreeding. If they went so far back that they could t find the relatives name in ANY source, it can't be significant. :/

0:07 "and the shipping commenced" Until he got a love interest and then the creators went out of their way during a christmas episode to show her getting heartbroken right in front of us..

A fourth cousin twice removed, is about as related as I am to my dog...

@ganondorfchampin

7 жыл бұрын

Just using a rough ballpark estimate, you're probably at least 100,000th cousins from your dog.

@ashketchum3445

3 жыл бұрын

bi tch

THANK YOU! I'm majoring in biology, and I recently got into MLP. The moment I first heard someone complain that the Big Mac and Marble Pie ship was incest, I was like HUH??? I didn't run the math like you did, but I knew the inbreeding coefficient would be too low to be problematic.

Yay, education!

@hallelujahbrony3263

8 жыл бұрын

+awesometacular Thanks, I noticed a lot of misconceptions in this fandom have had concerning the two, so I thought this was a great opportunity to shed some light. Glad you liked it.

@sonicgen20

8 жыл бұрын

Hallelujah Brony I sure did.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Hallelujah Brony | Artificial fandom

The closest I can guess on a fourth cousin twice removed from a fifth cousin is perhaps that whoever you're fifth cousin is, it's their fourth cousin twice removed from them. So the percentage number think is safe to say alot lower than that.

Thanks for debunking this. The relationship is so minute it shouldn't even be brought up. Poor Big Mac and Marble >.>

lol they may not even been 1% related because the word on the paper was smugged

@hallelujahbrony3263

8 жыл бұрын

+Donut LPS Welcome To The Pet Life If they are less than 0.5% related... mathematically speaking they really aren't related either way.

@RainbowSpills

8 жыл бұрын

So true 😆

@pedrosaabedra5653

8 жыл бұрын

+Hallelujah Brony Is treehugger your wafiu?

@hallelujahbrony3263

8 жыл бұрын

+Pedro Saabedra I know this is a late response, but it is more like a comical ship with my OC. My video: Is the Smooze Real, explains the initial "crush" because I knew the first time I saw her that people would love her holistic mellow personality or hate her because she's a 'hippie'

@pedrosaabedra5653

8 жыл бұрын

Hallelujah Brony And I ship Marble Pie with my dragon OC.

That spaceballs reference was perfect

I don't know about y'all, but right now, I'd say that the chances of Big Mac and Marble Pie being an item are kinda low since they hardly know each other, whereas the chances of Big Mac and Cheerilee remaining an item are fairly moderate since they've kinda known each other the longest. Since "Hearts And Hooves Day", this has been somewhat hinted at in episodes such as "Just For Sidekicks", "Filli Vanilli", and even the 100th episode "Slice Of Life". Y'all get my drift?

@AppleOfThineEye

7 жыл бұрын

One year later, and both ships have been sunk. Fuck Hasbro.

@keiracopeland4721

6 жыл бұрын

too bad SUGARMAC / BIGBELLE FTW

@hollyharrington273

6 жыл бұрын

Cheerilee and Big Mac were under a love potion!

@Strein86

6 жыл бұрын

I'm gonna have to agree with Luna Lovegood and Sweetie Belle: "It doesn't really count when you trick a pony into drinking a love potion, does it?"

@hollyharrington273

6 жыл бұрын

Thx! :)

1:41 Best part of the video! GO SPACEBALLS!!

spaceballs reference awsome

Very nicely done. This also something I thought of when watching the episode, but also found it hard to care about because "Daaaaaw!" However, this makes things even more complicated for now I have three main Big Mac ships. Fluttermac, CheerliexMac(Cheermac sounds strange.) and Marblemac. But it's shipping so it's all in good fun so I don't have to have a favorite.

@RockeyTheUmbreon

7 жыл бұрын

I never liked shippings....

@pastelskies99

6 жыл бұрын

Missed the Band Wagon and it was ruined in season 7...

love the space balls reference

My opinion on this might be due to the fact that I live on a tiny little island, but a fourth chosen twice removed is far enough. Like...I'm pretty sure I heard somewhere second cousins getting together is legal where I am. If not a little squicky..So fourth twice removed? I dunno. It seems ok to me..... Plus there's the fact that Pinkie never actually proved that.

@ashketchum3445

3 жыл бұрын

What island? - Unless it's so little that it's specifically where you live

@kayleighbrown459

3 жыл бұрын

@@ashketchum3445 Uk

How many jeans do twins share

@hallelujahbrony3263

8 жыл бұрын

Jeans? I don't know. hehe. However, Identical Twin share 100% of their genetic genes where as fraternal twins share the same as a regular brother or sister at 50%

@adonispasno8311

8 жыл бұрын

+Hallelujah Brony so pinecest is alright

@ganondorfchampin

7 жыл бұрын

Depends on whether you use clothes to differentiate them or not.

@ranglefandangles

6 жыл бұрын

I hate you so much HIGH FIVE I give high fives to good puns

@Kian_0708

5 жыл бұрын

Uhhh...depending how many pairs of jeans (pants) the mother wants them to share. (Okay I had too)

I love how you put the Space Balls scene in there.

Cool. I learned something very interesting.

I like your theries. you earned a new sub

Thank u I needed science to explain this

you know I had both reactions 0_0 {mostly that one

I think that because both Marble and Big Mac to some extent are shy characters that when Pinkie brought the 2 of them closer they just got shy and a little embarrassed, that's just my take on what the clip shows us, especially if Marble and Mac hadn't really interacted with eachother, so I don't think there's anything wrong since it's normal for people to get shy when meeting someone they don't exactly know, even if they are related

The best part about this is that MarbleMac isn't even canon and to be fully honest, I'm glad that it isn't. SugarMac is a canon ship now.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

QueenMini | Polyamory, people? Isn't it wrong to have only one friend when others also want to be your friends? Plus you also like them.

@spooky4988

2 жыл бұрын

only person with some sense… 4th generations away from the apples or not they’re still cousins and we can see that AJ and PP call eachother “family” and “cousins” so its still really weird and makes me uncomfortable

I always appreciate your well informed and educated approach, even if it's just to justify a ship. My preference is just to default back to the morality of a family relationship being just as cute either way.

@hallelujahbrony3263

8 жыл бұрын

+MLP ShadyOakMinistries Thanks, I neither approve nor disapprove the ship, I just took the opportunity to do exactly what you said: Inform and educate.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Hallelujah Brony | Then I suggest investigating it further on. Hints that Marble Pie & Big Mac are Aunt & Nephew.

I love the spaceballs reference

That far apart isn't inbreeding.

Don't forget applejack mom is a pear

Well technically, everyone is related to each other one way or another, so it doesn't matter too much.

.... *sits in corner shipping fluttermac*

I personally believe the show is going to out right say there not family, but have them reconsile that even without blood they are family. But kinda wierd to imply u might be family only to have the freaking show ship them.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

smilesforadoller | Bright Macintosh & Pear Butter → Shining Armor & Pinkie Pie. Cousins? Try Aunt and Nephew. Game of Ponies?

A few years later, the cannon ship has arrived (sugarbell x big mac

RIP MarbleMac F

Bright Macintosh & Pear Butter → Shining Armor & Pinkie Pie. Cousins? Try Aunt and Nephew. Game of Ponies? The series hinted that way. See the hints, especially in My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic's "The One Where Pinkie Pie Knows".

S P A C E B A L L S

cuter couple than cheerilee and bigmac, as it is only cheerilee who actually likes him and not vice versa

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

william mcallister | Polyamory. I like both ships.

Hahahaha inbreeding. How could I have possibly forget about that?

I think it's perfectly fine

Some people think that pinkie is adopted which would mean they aren’t related at all.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Cynthia Brogan | VERY CORRECT. But hints that Pinkie Pie possibly is Pear Butter.

"Fourth cousin twice removed from the pie family!" Gag

I don't know why, but every time they gave each other "the look", I kept thinking about Roman from GTA4 calling his cousin, Nico, about going bowling.

@hallelujahbrony3263

8 жыл бұрын

+SueWehkingPresents 'The Look' can also describe Fluttershy's Stare, but what is GTA4?

@SueWehkingPresents

8 жыл бұрын

+Hallelujah Brony GTA4 is short for Grand Theft Auto 4. It's a video game series. The scenerio I am describing comes from persist phone calls from the protagonist's cousin, who always wants to hang out. He will call you at random times, even when you are in the middle of something. It's become an Internet meme now.

@marblepie5104

8 жыл бұрын

What? xD

[Saw title] So you mean WINcest goddamnit

Edgar allan poe married his cousin

You know what I never thought about that until watch this video

I'm native and we have a rule that if she's not your third cousin it's okay, we all have to ask our grandmothers to find out

In a matter of speaking we are all related. But just like Big Mac and Marble, it's very, very, very, very distant. They're far enough apart to be compatible.

Yup

I hope they are fourth cousins or aren't related. I like them more than Cheerimac and Fluttermac. ( PEOPLE PLEASE, MY OPINION (-_-) )

@RockeyTheUmbreon

7 жыл бұрын

No offense to your opinion but I hate marblemac

I WILL HO DOWN WITH THIS SHIP

My mom and dad are 5th cousins so they have a great great great great grandfather in common that like 100 years

Im afraid not. For I think bigmac has chosen his special sun pony.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

E105_Alpha | SWEETIE BELLE!

I didn't know this.

Now that Bright Mac and Buttercup are a thing, OC versions of Applejack's parents are just cringy

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

EremikaHaven | Bright Macintosh & Pear Butter → Shining Armor & Pinkie Pie. Kinda make you wonder of the whole Big Mac & Marble Pie thing…

marble pie x big mac

IT'S FUCKING 3 IN THE MORNING NOW AM GONNA THINK OF THIS

i ship it

Thank you for this I got so much hate for this ship

That moment when you don't ship MarbleMac. Seriously though, this makes sense.

As shown in the video. Typical coancestries between relatives are as follows: Parent / Child = 25%; Grandparent / Grandchild, Half Sibling / Half Sibling, Double Cousins, Uncle / Niece, Aunt/Nephew = 12.5%; Great-grandparent / Great-grandchild, Half Uncle / Niece, Half Aunt / Nephew, First Cousins = 6.25%. The issue here is, how close Big Macintosh and Marble Pie is?

We are all cousins to each other, the issue is, how much close of a cousin is Big Macintosh and Marble Pie to each other? The show definetly hinted that they are not First Cousins, or Second Cousins, or even Third Cousins, is it just that Pinkie Pie found a lineage list stating she is cousin to Applejack. And THAT is if Pinkie Pie is actually related to her sisters. Her words is like "First Cousin, Twice Removed, but Fifth Cousin" something, in other words, they intentionally made it quite fuzzy… kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZaFrztuoYpW4e8Y.htmlm19s A much more clear explanation is "Applesauce of the Apple family lineage is a fourth cousin twice removed to the 'Pie' family." Meanwhile Applesauce is a great great aunt to Applejack. The "Pie" is smudged though, like the "Sugar" of the "Sugar Belle" Emoji in "The Break Up Break Down". kzread.info/dash/bejne/ZaFrztuoYpW4e8Y.htmlm Goldie Delicious' record is also smudged. kzread.info/dash/bejne/i22Jr9OkqdHZnrQ.htmlm37s But it is hinted that both Pinkie Pie and Goldie Delicious are capable of taking something from a stack of books/scrolls without causing it to fall, which meaning that they have more or less the same ability. And if ability means close family relationship, well… In short, based on official record, they are related, but not closely related. 4th wall wise. Aunt and Nephew?

First cousins marrying isn't inbreeding anyway. It's perfectly legal here in the UK, though not common.

@raevanl5477

6 жыл бұрын

I mean.. It's not really in"BREEDING" if they don't have kids.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

deadwispp | Is an Earth Pony Stallion and Unicorn Mare can be considered as Adultery? We also haven't see any of that shipping to be 'fruitful'?

Everyone is related basically

Interesting but I will forever ship twimac

@iahnia3407

8 жыл бұрын

flashlight will conquer you

@mitspeithetc

6 жыл бұрын

Marianne Pierce Wait TwiMac?? As in.. Twilight and Big Mac?.. Seriously?......THEY BARELY EVEN HAVE SCREEN TIME TOGETHER AND PEOPLE SHIP THEM!?!?!?

@Kian_0708

5 жыл бұрын

I respect your opinion but I ship Twiburst and Flashlight

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Kian 0708 | Flash Sentry is Twilight Sparkle's real brother. While Sunburst is her son, with Starlight Glimmer being her daughter. And yeah, Sunset Shimmer is Twilight Sparkle's real mother. Shining Armor / Bright Macintosh is not closely related to Twilight Sparkle though, I think…?

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Mitspeith {Mittens,Lilith,etc.} | See the Smarty Pants episode. When Twilight Sparkle said, "Please help me, Big Mac". Oh… That sounded just so sexy… Plus he once kissed her… Well… licked her actually…

No big deal, there's not enough to be getting all uppity about.

Since they're not related, it'll be ok.

Polygyny Polygamy, Filly Marriage, and Cousin Marriage are the 'Hard to Say Anything' subjects of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic. Eventhough there are strong hints that is how the Pony Communities function. Imagine if Monogamy was enforced upon Ponyville, there would be a bloodbath! You know on how violent mares could be, do you? Especially regarding stallions? "It seems that all of the good ones are taken…" - Apple Bloom "The Perfect Stallion" song is supposed to be about Sweetie Belle singing about her getting the perfect guy for her during Hearts & Hooves Day; but got replaced by Cheerilee, her teacher. "The Break Up Break Down" 4th wall shipped Big Macintosh - Sweetie Belle, because their Love Story was written before the series aired. The deal was, it would be shown in later seasons. The official editor tried to swap Sweetie Belle with Sugar Belle, but it wouldn't work, because Sweetie Belle is too integrated to the story. #SecretSpaceProgram #disclosure

If they are only 4th cousins twice removed, it NOT considered incest.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Alice Willoughby | What if Marble Pie and Big Macintosh are actually Aunt and Nephew?

They should becareful, one wrong move, someone could write in that Sugar Belle was Pear Butter, aka Big Macintosh's mother. Remember, they had the opportunity to break the relationship in My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic's "The Break Up Break Down". In short, Big Mac's mother would show up in Season 9, but not as herself. If some didn't get "Bright Macintosh & Pear Butter → Shining Armor & Pinkie Pie" plus BigSweetie and polygamy in general, then it would be written that Sugar Belle is actually Pear Butter. Barf bag not included…

I don't like MarbleMac I an close to hating it But I Love genetics This makes me hate it a little less

@RockeyTheUmbreon

7 жыл бұрын

I hate it also in fact I hate all non canon ships

@Kian_0708

5 жыл бұрын

I don’t like MarbleMac. It’s really overrated. Same thing with Carajack and SoarinDash.

@Kian_0708

5 жыл бұрын

And fluttercord

Pinkie according to theories, she is adopted. So the others in the Pie family is NOT related to Applejack.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Pinkie Pie | Bright Macintosh & Pear Butter → Shining Armor & Pinkie Pie. Marble Pie might still not be related, despite being refered to as Big Mac's aunt.

I would be Treehugger in this video!

Look at “Family Guy” both Peter and Lois are related. because Lois ancestors had slaves and one of them had a family with Lois ancestor and it turns out the slave was Peters ancestor. I’m pretty sure them being blood related percentage is more than the Apples and Pies. What’s also funny that nobody has brought up that peter and Lois are related in the show.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

a1000face88 | Rarity actually is not yet shown to have a relation with the Apple family. The pony marriages probably are mostly cousin marriages.

How did i get here (._.)

Imma just stick to my good ol’ fluttermac

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Meadow Feather | Personal favorite: Big Macintosh and Sweetie Belle. The other Big Mac - S. Belle ship.

I’m sure if they are really like far apart the. They should be ok then I guess

I didn't know i'd be getting a science lecture in my bedroom😓😑🐼

where did you get the apple and pie family tree?

@loomtoons

7 жыл бұрын

iisheepsihderp well they are the apple-pie family now ;)

Lol, Big Mac is in a thing with Sugar Belle now. RIP Fluttermac, Cheerimac, and Marblemac. Sugarmac or Big..bigbelle..(lmao) is a canon thingy.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Melody Storm | This is a 4th wall Love Proclamation of Marble Pie and Big Macintosh. derpicdn.net/img/2018/10/27/1867843/full.gif

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Melody Storm | The promise is that Big Macintosh and Sweetie Belle would be shown as a couple before the series ended. Because they decided to keep Big Mac - Sugar Belle, it would clash with the unofficial anti-polyamory the official editors have.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Melody Storm | I say polyamory! Let's have a fleet of ships! A Big Mac fleet!

THANK YOU I have a marblemac ng baby and everyone tries telling me they are related

Sugarmac has sailed

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Sophie-Vanessa Õispuu | Well, we need more ships! I mean Columbus didn't travel with just one ship? Did he? While SDF-1 Macross was coupled with the Prometheus and the Daedaulus. We need more ships! Let's have a Big Mac ship!

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Sophie-Vanessa Õispuu | Let's have a Big Mac fleet! Filled with plenty of ships!

I forgot they were related.....

Am I the only one that gets the spaceballs joke? XD

@hallelujahbrony3263

6 жыл бұрын

YES! Finally someone gets it! Brohoof

But... wait, wasn't big mac dating the teacher lady?

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

DubstepGamer2005 YT | BIG LOVE ≈ BIG MAC LOVE. Donald Trump's Secret Service codename is "Big Mac". So… he got a lot of girls…

New ship sugarmac

The only thing that really stops MarbleMac is simply...SUGARxMAC! Or MacXBell? Big-Sugar? Whatever, y'all get my drift.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Jones | This is a 4th wall Love Proclamation of Marble Pie and Big Macintosh. derpicdn.net/img/2018/10/27/1867843/full.gif They did it because their love story was forbidden by the official editors. Before that, they 4th wall shipped Big Mac - Sweetie Belle in "The Break Up Break Down". "The Best Gift Ever" also showed us that secretly, Rarity has a deep crush toward a particular green haired young boy in the audience. She can't just break the 4th wall and screams "I love you". So she hired Derpy to deliver her 'Package of Love', disguised as a package for Applejack, delivered by mistake to Pistachio. In Cardcaptor Sakura, another well known animated tailor, aka Tomoyo Daidouji, confessed her love toward the audience in a 4th wall way, disguised as implied that she might actually talked about Sakura. No, look at her eyes, she is staring at the screen, not Sakura. Tomoyo is Magic? Tomodachi wa Mahou means Friends are Magic though, and it's the Japanese title of My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Jones | Before the series aired, Big Macintosh and Sweetie Belle were written as a couple, and it was promised that they would be shown as a couple before the series ended.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Christopher Jones | This is what My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic get from recycling Macross 15 stuff. The cancelled Macross 15th anniversary project from 1997. And quiz, what is the hexadecimal character for the decimal character of "15"? Fluttershy was also recycled from the toy version of Hasbro's MoonDreamers' Roary the Lion. Plus Beast Breeders. #SecretSpaceProgram #disclosure

Well now Big mac actually has a REAL love life

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Moon Dune | This is a 4th wall Love Proclamation of Marble Pie and Big Macintosh. derpicdn.net/img/2018/10/27/1867843/full.gif

Ya it was pear

Big Mac does NOT have a Mother Complex, or else he would've BANGED Pinkie Pie a long time ago. Some argued that Big Macintosh likes Sugar Belle because she resembled his mother, but as you can see: Pear Butter, Pinkie Pie, and Sugar Belle resembled each other. Why Sugar Belle and not Pinkie Pie? And why did Big Mac was interested on Pinkie Pie's twin sister? Here is Pinkie Pie when she foalsitted the Cake Twins. i.ytimg.com/vi/4UjHSn9joo4/maxresdefault.jpg Of course My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic implied Bright Macintosh & Pear Butter → Shining Armor & Pinkie. And also Fluttershy originally was planned to be Pinkie Pie's twin sister, that concept got later on recycled into Marble Pie.

Actually no because they are very far down the line of sister hood/family hood

@undrtale_0taku284

6 жыл бұрын

(I commented this before watching the full video)

In the Ep where pinkie and the apples go and find out if they're related Pinkies says that the word pie is smudged and in season 7 I came to the conclusion that it actually said pears not pies. So it's not incest at all.

@smartfrenandromax6651

5 жыл бұрын

Mako | Bright Macintosh & Pear Butter → Shining Armor & Pinkie Pie. This means that Marble Pie is actually Big Macintosh's aunt. The real series creators are actually quite smart, or this was based on real life. #SecretSpaceProgram #disclosure.

I thought that in the end the pies and apples weren’t actually related

@hallelujahbrony3263

5 жыл бұрын

The lunar Wolf They aren’t related either way. Even if they are distant relatives, the genes 🧬 they do share is too insignificantly small to actually be related if that were the case.

@thelunarwolf9060

5 жыл бұрын

Hallelujah Brony oh ok

Can I use this in a review?

@hallelujahbrony3263

8 жыл бұрын

+Gearhead Gears sure! Go ahead

@apetnamedsteve4411

8 жыл бұрын

Great! I'll be sure to credit you.

....they're horses

Family trees wouldn't matter to me. Marble pie is cute no matter what!

We might be related

TBH I don't give a crap! But this is the only time I've ever shipped incest is wincest.

Well dating your relative that far from you isnt illegal soooooooooo i guess not?

Big Mac has a girlfriend now...😔

Incest is WINcest!! :D