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Lord of the rings Warhammer, or the Middle Earth strategy battle, isn’t just arguably the best game that Games Workshop has or ever will make, it’s also one of the primary reasons Wargaming is so damn popular today.
But will it last forever? With so many systems popping up in a hugely flooded marketplace, can Lord of the Rings Warhammer survive both as a system more generally, and what about here on Zorpazorp?
Over the past couple of months here at Zorpazorp we’ve been diving deep into the Horus Heresy and it’s prompted a whole range of comments from people anxious that I’m leaving Middle Earth behind and with the Lord of the Rings Amazon series just around the corner we could be about to see a huge change in our Middle Earth Wargaming landscape.
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  • @Zorpazorp
    @Zorpazorp2 жыл бұрын

    Get 20% OFF + Free Shipping @Manscaped with code ZORP at → mnscpd.com/Zorpazorp #teammanscaped What system got you started in the hobby and what year did you start wargaming?

  • @footrot17

    @footrot17

    2 жыл бұрын

    North or south? Central Otago and the east of the south island is the best. Auckland is just another city. Alexandra has the blossom festival every year, it's beautiful dude

  • @Zorpazorp

    @Zorpazorp

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@markus_glevera Video coming soon!

  • @severintw

    @severintw

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Zorpazorp Is there any chance you could do an introductory series for the Middle Earth game? I heard only praise for the rules and while there is plenty of information on the lore, there is hardly any content on the game on KZread for beginners interested in getting into the game. Like all the available factions and how their playstyle differs from each other. Which units and heroes are actually available for a certain faction. These are things I would love to know before I spend any money. I am very interested in the elves of Rivendell, Lothlorien or Mirkwood for instance, but a comparison for someone new to the hobby is nowhere to be found. I am sure that lack of information is a reason for many people to give up on the game before they even started. YT is the first choice for many players to get first information. And the game is competing here with other systems that got plenty of introductory videos helping to get into the game and choosing factions and units. It is probably more difficult to find a game with less beginner friendly videos available. :-) But even in written form it is very difficult to find good introductory explanations online. A video I enjoyed a lot and so far provided the most information for people unfamiliar with the game is the 50 min long Unboxing of the Pelennor Fields by OnTableTop they did 3 years ago. Shadow Wraith did 2 videos on the armies in LotR (good and evil) the ones in the Hobbit were not included. Though all heroes available for a faction weren’t covered it does go in the right direction. A year ago Conquest Creations did a 25 min video that included all factions, but with that many factions he only had time to talk about each for a minute, hardly mentioning any troops. It’s great to have but it is more like a ranking of their competitiveness. And by the way he explains it you realize that he is usually focusing on competitive play. These 4 videos are pretty much it on KZread for beginners.

  • @elladrinn4318

    @elladrinn4318

    Жыл бұрын

    @@severintw Check out Conquest Creations, they have some guides for beginners

  • @SimonMoston
    @SimonMoston2 жыл бұрын

    Got into this in about 2001, my Dad bought me a box of Grey Hunters and the Space Wolves supplement and so started my love of miniatures. I remember looking in my local GW window as the LOTR stuff dropped, they had a Fellbeast and I thought "Man, that looks awesome". Got into LOTR SBG in 2016 after major 40k burnout, and it quickly became my favourite system. Haven't looked back.

  • @Centaur255

    @Centaur255

    2 жыл бұрын

    Space Wolves Rule! Haven't played 40k since 5th Edition, but have absolutely loved the current edition of Middle Earth (been playing since 2010).

  • @IcarusGames
    @IcarusGames2 жыл бұрын

    I have such a deep love for the Strategy Battle Games in Middle Earth Magazine. I 100% would not be where I am working in this industry without it. Those films, and that magazine completely changed the course of my life and what I wanted to do. Excited to see more Middle Earth content on the horizon!

  • @calebbilling4984

    @calebbilling4984

    2 жыл бұрын

    Those terrain tutorials at the end of each issue were a real treat for me. When I got the second edition of Wargaming Terrain (the blue book) it felt like a refresher course because I'd learned so much from... what, 5 or so pages at the very end of the magazine?

  • @Jonas-yp4sz
    @Jonas-yp4sz2 жыл бұрын

    In the long term, you could probably establish some kind of museum in New Zealand with all that lord of the rings terrain. As long as you are in a central enough location, you should receive a lot of attention and visits from tourists and locals alike. But I feel that such a thing might already be on your mind :)

  • @Zorpazorp

    @Zorpazorp

    2 жыл бұрын

    Maybe it is Jonas ;)

  • @sirallenrider8796

    @sirallenrider8796

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Zorpazorp Do it! It would be epic!

  • @MrSagaTeller

    @MrSagaTeller

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@Zorpazorp Gonna visit it for sure!

  • @BuchanDuck
    @BuchanDuck2 жыл бұрын

    I remember it fondly, I was but a young lad, living in England at the time, I went to the corner store to buy kind of weird British candy no doubt, I was a massive fan of the films and had just started reading The Fellowship of the Ring for the first time. I looks down and a magazine rack and there it was, issue one of the Battle Games in Middle Earth with those 12 Goblins, 4 glorious paints and a single dice, for the low price of 2 pounds (About 6 NZD at the time.....6 NZD for 12 Goblins.....its now 83NZD for 24, ouch) and from that day I was hooked, for awhile anyway, about 3 years later I gave it up because I was a silly teenager who thought playing with toy soldiers was uncool, but the call would eventual come back when it got rebooted to Middle Earth SBG

  • @Freeman-bt9od

    @Freeman-bt9od

    2 жыл бұрын

    Exact same here hah. Miss those magazines and the nostalgia of it!

  • @geoffbushill5587

    @geoffbushill5587

    2 жыл бұрын

    I feel so old when I see people who discovered Warhammer/table top gaming through LOTR. I always see battle games of middle Earth as a new thing but it’s nearly 20 years ago 😮

  • @shaunbates49

    @shaunbates49

    2 жыл бұрын

    Wow I literally just read that and thought of myself. I was only thinking about it all a couple of hours ago as I've just got back into Warhammer. So as I was building some Space Marine Infiltrators I thought of my journey from being in year 5 of primary school and being bought that magazine, I thought I'd be the cool guy on Monday morning but turns out all the boys had got the issue! From then on that was it we were all hooked and all my pocket money went to Games Workshop. Until my first year of high school and as you say it didn't seem cool anymore so I stopped. Then I got my first proper girlfriend at 18 and one day I had them out admiring them and when she came round the face she gave me when she asked what I was doing was like wow you geek so not long after that it all went in the bin 😭 But I'm back now at 30 years old!

  • @somethingfromnothing8428
    @somethingfromnothing84282 жыл бұрын

    I got into it when the battle games magazines came out and spend thousands of pounds to build a huge collection. A few years later my ex gf persuaded to put it all on ebay and sold the lot for less than £300. Then last year i got back into it and have probably thousands more rebuilding my old collection and getting more newer stuff i never had before

  • @SwordsandBrushes
    @SwordsandBrushes2 жыл бұрын

    My first experience of Wargaming was when someone showed me their GorkaMorka Box set (cant remember what year) loved the models and and card fortress that you could build and the love for the hobby grew from there! Now its pretty much all about Middle Earth thanks to your channel and Battle Streams of Middle Earth - so thanks Lachie!! :):) I wish you luck on the impending move and also the projects that you still have to finish off before you go - please do let me know if you need anything else from me and i'll be happy to help where I can! :):)

  • @timeenoughatlast3368
    @timeenoughatlast33682 жыл бұрын

    I always loved looking at the models my dad painted when i was younger. I think i first got my own when i was seven and he bought me some Tyranids which are still my favourite faction. Over the last 3 or so years i've started properly painting my own models and i've been rapidly completing projects ever since. Just about to finish a Necromunda board over the next two days!

  • @RKaudio
    @RKaudio2 жыл бұрын

    Sorry to hear the Horus Heresy series hasn’t been as popular as hoped. I’m definitely more into the Lord of the Rings universe but have really enjoyed watching your Horus Heresy games, the effort you’re putting in really shows in the quality of the videos and has been highly entertaining. Please keep it going as long as you’re able, but also rest assured people will keep watching your fantastic videos wherever you take the channel!

  • @TrippyTheShroom

    @TrippyTheShroom

    Жыл бұрын

    I think Horus Heresy hasn't been nearly as fruitful for many people, GW included. GW hyped it to the moon then let it fall straight on its face by dragging out the release window for each kit pertaining to it and keeping most of it on Forgeworld. Silly business on their end.

  • @PClaud
    @PClaud2 жыл бұрын

    Hey Zorp! You guessed right: I am from Italy and I started wargaming with the DeAgostini Battle Games in Middle Earth Magazines. I was at high school... Was it 2002? I moved from Italy to Japan last march and had to leave all behind, but your channel is responsible for making me dig out my old magazines and miniatures, having them sent here, and buying the Battle in the Pelennor Fields to start all over again after all these years with my son! Btw, I don't mind you diving in the Horus Heresy. It's such a cool setting and I've loved your videos all the same!

  • @BCEFilms
    @BCEFilms2 жыл бұрын

    Started in 2017, my friends and I in law school were starting a DnD campaign and I needed an elf miniature. Somehow came upon an eBay listing of some Warriors of the Last Alliance. From there I looked into MESBG more and ever since I’ve been hooked.

  • @robbylava
    @robbylava2 жыл бұрын

    I started in 2005. My mum brought me to an LGS on my 11th birthday and I remember staring in awe at their Helm's Deep diorama for like a solid 20 minutes. I went home with a starter set of the LotR SBG that day and went on to collect, paint, and play the game for about 5 or 6 years. Your channel has single-handedly rekindled my interest in the game. I'm amazed that so many other people have had a similar experience to myself here!

  • @itsallfunandgames723
    @itsallfunandgames7232 жыл бұрын

    While I think we've moved into an age of "content" where great adaptations aren't going to come from big name companies anymore, there's still going to be a lot of appreciation for the actual books and the three incredible films (which seem a little more miraculous every year we move farther from them), and GW would be wise to keep supporting their most affordable and best designed battle game.

  • @SWProductions100

    @SWProductions100

    Жыл бұрын

    I think big name streaming companies have the ability to allow for great adaptations, though how often is a flip of the coin.

  • @the98themperoroftheholybri33
    @the98themperoroftheholybri332 жыл бұрын

    The problem with the middle earth game is the lack of customisation. Basic troops should have an option for bows, swords and spears/pikes. I shouldn't have to buy multiple boxes to have a contingent of bowmen or swords

  • @JacopoSkydweller

    @JacopoSkydweller

    9 ай бұрын

    That's quite a dang lot of effort and specific skillset for a decent outcome when it could so easily be tweaked. @@Skullman989

  • @anexistanthuman2435
    @anexistanthuman24352 жыл бұрын

    I’m a newbie, know no fear in eighth edition got me into war gaming, but I’ve expanded quickly, getting into a crap ton of indie skirmish games

  • @MasterJediDude
    @MasterJediDude2 жыл бұрын

    I’ve been playing every version of this since it came out, including the massive War of the Ring game. I know there were some slow years between movies, but I stayed with it. However, I do not like what Amazon is doing with “The Rings of Power” and will never support that series. And I hope the game does not shift in that direction. Tolkien would be furious at the liberties that Amazon is taking with his work and I have no problem calling it an abomination. I’ll stick with the classic game the eras that it covers.

  • @brianp6859

    @brianp6859

    2 жыл бұрын

    Totally agree. The books and the LotR trilogy by peter jackson are excellent. Wasn't crazy about the hobbit films but the first one was decent. Based on the Amazon trailers it will be an abomination of Tolkiens works. Think i'll just skip it and listen to some reviews of it on youtube. Hope GW doesn't touch that thing with a 100 foot pole.

  • @rokassan

    @rokassan

    2 жыл бұрын

    I agree 100%. They are injecting modern politics(left leaning) into something they have to business doing. The stories and gaming are supposed to be above all of this. Most gamers whatever their politics are moderate and can befriend and play with others from across the political pond. Some want to poison this.

  • @thomassaxon8254

    @thomassaxon8254

    2 жыл бұрын

    Tolkien would hate Jackson's movies too. And would have despised the liberties that he took. Honestly if you think that Rings of Power is going to be any more divergent from Tolkien than Jackson was that kind of says more about you I think.

  • @rokassan

    @rokassan

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thomassaxon8254 bet you he’d hate Rings of power more.

  • @willbournerv2259

    @willbournerv2259

    2 жыл бұрын

    @@thomassaxon8254 PJ made changes that he had to make to translate the books into movies, movies which appealed to both tolkien fans and general movie goers alike, and which put the trilogy effectively into the movie hall of fame. You could say tolkien wouldve hated it, but most people, including tolkien fans, would agree PJ captured the spirit and soul of middle earth. It was a labour of love and passion, and it showed as its a timeless depiction of middle earth regardless of how much it deviated from the source material. Look at interviews with Christopher Lee, who was arguably one of the biggest tolkien fans, where he's in tears at how proud and humbled he is with what they accomplished. What did amazon do? They fired their on-site tolkien scholar and replaced him with a diversity student from a university. A corporate driven woke fest is not on par with what PJ and their amazing crew achieved.

  • @benkylo8015
    @benkylo80152 жыл бұрын

    I remember collecting the magazine series back in the early 2000's. It got me into war gaming as a 12 y/o. Me and my buddy went splitsies on the big Two Towers set with like twenty Uruk-Hai and a bunch of Rohirrim, he had the Uruks and I got the Riders. Man, those were the days...........

  • @WaggerFiggot15
    @WaggerFiggot152 жыл бұрын

    I dont want any models from that amazon trash fire lol But i have seriously been considering trying out the middle earth table top game . Looks super fun !

  • @stevewagstaff7250
    @stevewagstaff72502 жыл бұрын

    Started wargaming in 1990 with Rogue Trader. I was just leaving all GW games behind in 2001 and saw the LoTR flop hard locally so assumed it was the same everywhere. The local GW employees I knew confirmed they were selling way less than expected and couldn't see it being a success.

  • @chromedog68
    @chromedog682 жыл бұрын

    I started gaming back in mid 1987 (I was 18 - there was no younger adolescent school-age gaming for me - I was a chemistry nerd), with "modern period" (WW2) in HO scale - helped out some friends run a demo at a con. There I found Battletech, which was the first miniatures game I collected, painted models for and played. Warhammer 40,000:Rogue Trader followed but that was only the start of the downward spiral.

  • @Shepo04
    @Shepo042 жыл бұрын

    Lord of the Rings was my intro into wargaming back in 2001. They used to release a magazine with paints and miniatures which was the perfect intro to miniatures.

  • @nickthejack
    @nickthejack2 жыл бұрын

    I can still picture the first time i encountered lotr sbg. I was in primary school at the time, and my mum used to let me get one thing from the local newsagent as my reward for helping her with grocery shopping. Usually i just got a booster pack of magic the gathering cards, but that day i saw the first issue of the magazine, and i fell in love. I've left the hobby several times over the years, but i always inevitably return to it. Discovering this awesome channel is actually the most recent reason i picked up the game again. Watching the entire back catalogue of videos during lockdown and being inspired to start painting again was one of the few things that kept me sane, and I'll always be thankful to the great zorpazorp for that

  • @cavemanbum
    @cavemanbum2 жыл бұрын

    I was introduced to miniature war gaming in early 1993 at a convention. I had overslept, and arrived late to the convention hall, missing the RPG that I was scheduled to run. As I aimlessly wandered around the gaming hall, someone tapped me on the shoulder, and asked, "Hey, would you like to play Warhammer 40,000?" What transpired after that was the beginning of a nearly 30-year odyssey and addiction to war games that persists to this day.

  • @strochnis33
    @strochnis332 жыл бұрын

    First wargame experience: Warzone, from Target Games, circa 1994, in the south-west of France, in a small game shop on my way to rugby training... Probably not the most popular gateway into the hobby!

  • @darthchu48darth92
    @darthchu48darth922 жыл бұрын

    I unfortunately didn’t start wargaming when the LoTR movies came out, or start wargaming with LoTR Warhammer, or even play LoTR Warhammer, I can’t deny I wanted to play it. LoTR is my favorite movie series and I will play the game eventually, but I’m balls deep into the Horus Heresy and life is about to become busy again, so I don’t think I can get into the game. Also I started wargaming in 2018 with Star Wars Legion.

  • @Jonas-yp4sz
    @Jonas-yp4sz2 жыл бұрын

    Used to play the lord of the rings tabletop game at a friend's house when we were maybe about 12 years old. Now, more than 15 years later, that friend and a couple other regularly meet up for our Mordheim campaign. So lord of the rings was definitely the gateway drug.

  • @Lesandira
    @Lesandira2 жыл бұрын

    The first ever miniatures I ever collected were the Lord of the Rings and Hobbit Mithril metal minis in 32mm and 54mm scale, way back in the early 90s.

  • @MasterJediDude

    @MasterJediDude

    2 жыл бұрын

    I remember those. It was my first exposure to wargaming in the LotR setting. All lead minis too!

  • @fulcrum8583
    @fulcrum85832 жыл бұрын

    Started tabletop wargaming in 1988 with Warhammer Fantasy Battles, brought my roleplaying games friends from school into it. Became fed up with GW marketing and sales shenanigans as well as clunky rules after coming back to the hobby as an adult after a break of over 20 years, and I'm very, very happy with Star Wars Legion now, which is a setting I knew and loved well before I knew anything from GW. Being a special effects movie geek since my childhood, the LotR movie's production design is very dear to me, and I love the terrain you guys have built. Scratch-building filming model-accurate scale models of Star Wars ships, vehicles and terrain myself, I know what amount of effort and love goes into something like this!

  • @H0urg1ass
    @H0urg1ass2 жыл бұрын

    This is very interesting to me as this is totally not the experience I had with the LoTR game. I lived in central California when it came out, and no one at my very very busy local store played it. I moved to central Texas and no one at the two local, and also very busy, stores played it, then I moved to Virginia and no one at these local stores played it. In fact, in 25 years of wargaming, I've never seen anyone play any of the LoTR games at any of the shops I visit, so it's very weird to me finding out that it was massively popular. That just doesn't add up with my varied experiences at all.

  • @SevenStarsandSevenStones

    @SevenStarsandSevenStones

    2 жыл бұрын

    It might be more popular in Australia/New Zealand. My local shop doesn't even carry LotR miniatures, and your experience checks out with mine in the Northwest.

  • @bretts7072
    @bretts70722 жыл бұрын

    I started with the LoTR game when I saw the Fellowship of the Ring starter set (Moria Goblins vs Men and Elves) at Barnes & Noble of all places. Without that I never would have picked up fantasy and 40k. To this day the LoTR game remains my favorite and Moria remains my main army! I still use those same 24 original goblins in my list every time :)

  • @euansmith3699
    @euansmith36992 жыл бұрын

    I started wargaming back in the 1970's and my first tabletop game was probably 4th or 5th Edition War Games Rules from War Games Research Group; playing a Phil Barker's flat. The Strategy Battle Games seems like GW's best rule set this side of Space Hulk.

  • @tomz8743
    @tomz87432 жыл бұрын

    i think it was 2009 when my uncle got me the LOTR mordor troll (still own it to this day), went into my LGW to have a painting lesson and ive been fixed ever since. such a good way to enter the world of miniture wargaming.

  • @DougWIngate
    @DougWIngate2 жыл бұрын

    2001, Lord of the Rings Strategy Battle Game. I was 8 years old and our local toyshop (that's right, TOY shop, not games shop) stocked the first line of Fellowship box sets: Attack At Weathertop, The Fellowship of the Ring and the huge Last Alliance vs Goblins 2 player starter. It blew my mind. This was my idea of 'big kids toy'. And this was in New Zealand so the excitement over LOTR was everywhere. The fellowshop and weathertop box sets were about 20 NZD. adjusted for inflation that's about 32 NZD or 20 USD today

  • @patrickbateman69420
    @patrickbateman694202 жыл бұрын

    I got into the hobby when my dad bought me the Warhammer 40k Battle for Macragge box set in 2004. I was 9!

  • @Yoshis_Studio
    @Yoshis_Studio2 жыл бұрын

    For me it was 1998, Warhammer Fantasy Battles. Dark Elves specifically. It's interesting to see how LOTR game has held on, as where i'm at in the US it seems to have only a niche player base, it's far from a "staple" game. Wish it would have been bigger here, would have been fun to play.

  • @thegreatangel8251
    @thegreatangel82512 жыл бұрын

    I started 40K and Fantasy in 1999 but as soon as LOTR’s table top came out I jumped into that as well.

  • @wadekothmann431
    @wadekothmann4312 жыл бұрын

    Alright, here’s a throwback. Got started with miniatures in 1986, and the first game system I played was Wargames Research Group’s Ancients rule set. Gauls vs early Roman Empire was my very first game (I played Gauls :D)

  • @caseybox7816
    @caseybox78162 жыл бұрын

    I got into MESBG with the release of the Battle Games in ME series. It was a place for me to focus my LOTR obsession, and after many years of being away from the game, I’ve dusted off my old models and am back into it. Thanks for being an inspiration to the community and I hope to see you at some MESBG tourneys in NZ!

  • @Zorpazorp

    @Zorpazorp

    2 жыл бұрын

    Hell yeah Casey!! You are most welcome, I'll be at the Christchurch league final this november!

  • @brandonchaplin9782
    @brandonchaplin97822 жыл бұрын

    *GW a week later* "is that right mate?" Man I am excited to see what the two towers stuff is they announce. God I hope they don't make the Pelenor fields box disappear though

  • @johnporten8303
    @johnporten83032 жыл бұрын

    The Amazon Lotr series is going to be an abomination. I hope it doesn't destroy the magic of the Jackson films or the original but anything is possible after the things I have seen.

  • @johnmcconnell9979
    @johnmcconnell99792 жыл бұрын

    I'm very likely outside your usual viewership base, and because of that, my start into miniature gaming requires me to reach back prior to the dawn of Games Workshop, Warhammer, and of course, Middle Earth SBG. My first miniatures game was historical, the American Revolution to be exact, which started in 1978. Around the same time, I started painting characters for D&D, mostly using Grenadier figures, but also some historical knights because fantasy figures were pretty rare at that time. I first became aware of the Lord of the Rings SBG in 2001 when one of the old GW "Outriders" ran a demo at the small (200 attendees) convention that I helped organize. I didn't have much interest at that time because I was heavy into Warhammer Fantasy Battle (WFB), and didn't see the need to pursue two fantasy games simultaneously, as much as I loved Middle Earth. My gaming situation changed in 2012 when two things happened around the same time: I was growing tired of the edition changes, and a friend suggested that we try out SBG. As it happened, WFB was going to be dead within 3 years, so I was lucky to have a jump on getting several armies painted for SBG prior to that happening. I've painted up many factions now by this point, organized seven tournaments at my local shop since 2018, have attended a number of tournaments run by others in that time, and have this past year started a weekly game night at my FLGS as well. I won't be stopping any time soon!

  • @Glorfindel_117
    @Glorfindel_1172 жыл бұрын

    I started playing wargames back at around 2004 or 2005, I cant recall fully. There used to be a GW at a mall semi-near to my house, so my brother and I would ask for excuses for our parents to go there just to look at the display cases and paint the free Space Marines at their little table. Then a few years later, my brother and I had saved up to buy the Moria/Balin's Tomb starter set, and we've been playing ever since. I've now got over 2k points of Mordor, all painted at various times and talents. Thank you, for being the best and biggest mesbg channel on the platform, you really have done so much to keep this game and hobby alive for so many of us.

  • @Green-wd8xz
    @Green-wd8xz2 жыл бұрын

    My first experience was 2020 so around the end of 8th Ed for Warhammer 40k. A couple friends took me to a Warhammer store and bought a Dark Imperium box of which they split the armies. I bought an ork start collecting box. After getting annihilated over and over I devoted myself to expanding my army to have a chance of winning. Now I have a Waaagh that takes up half the table against their meager armies. I Krump'd Dem Gitz Good!! Oh and I didn't know LotR was a thing until I saw their boxes in a store. Been debating getting into it or not.

  • @S.A.S.H.
    @S.A.S.H.2 жыл бұрын

    1992, and Epic scale Space Marines. So I remember vividly the release of the Games Workshop. Then after 15 years away I came back about two years ago to see, quite gladly, that is was not only still around but was still somewhat active for one of the mid-tier GW games.

  • @BBQSAC
    @BBQSAC2 жыл бұрын

    I started in 1998 playing panzerfaust (1/72 scale WW2) but my grandfather bought me the boxed set of the fellowship in 2001 and it's been a mainstay ever since

  • @davidchristie1200
    @davidchristie12002 жыл бұрын

    brothers friend got mines of Moria for his Birthday - think that was around 2006 as first white dwarf we got was when plastic easterlings were released and been jumping around the different systems since.

  • @aleopardstail
    @aleopardstail2 жыл бұрын

    first wargaming was WW2, using 1:72 stuff and a book from the library.. in the mid 1980's had LotR:SBG about a decade ago with the Mines of Moria set, only had a few games but its recently taken off at local club, Pelenor Fields is a good set. currently into a Battle Company campaign, after one of the others saw your channel

  • @Chesterbigwigful
    @Chesterbigwigful2 жыл бұрын

    I didn’t realise tabletop war gaming was a thing until my Grandmother bought me BGIME when they first came out, which I think was when Two Towers was released. I was pretty much obsessed with it through most of my childhood. Like a lot of people, I stopped in my late teens and sold my ME and WFB collection and didn’t interact with the hobby for about 10 years. I didn’t even realise WFB was canned until a friend told me a few years after the fact. Again like many people I know, I got back into it through the Pelennor Fields box when a LGS opened up in my town. It’s nice to see the game has been revitalised since then and there are rumours of a new edition at the end of the year with a new starter set. Hopefully the futures bright as it is along with Mordhiem the best system GW has ever created.

  • @finnmeiners7363
    @finnmeiners73632 жыл бұрын

    I started last year after finding my Khazad-Dum Dwarves from 8 years ago. This Game really helped through dealing with depression while Covid.

  • @paladinwiggles7896
    @paladinwiggles78962 жыл бұрын

    I started very late in 5th edition warhammer fantasy, and was around when Lord of the Rings was first announced, I actually hadn't read the books yet when I first started seeing minis on the back of White Dwarf magazine and this prompted me to read the books. Initially I wanted an "army" of "those cool black robed ghost guys" only to learn later they're the Nazgul! Still I did end up with five of them from the Weathertop boxed set. My first lotr force was Moria goblins from the starter set, playing against my friends elves & men.

  • @Jathom
    @Jathom2 жыл бұрын

    Started in 2001. My parents bought my brothers and me the Fellowship of the Ring 2 Player starter. Battle Game in Middle Earth never came to the US. Seeing people post about them on the Last Alliance and One Ring, I was always jealous.

  • @edyoungstrom2854
    @edyoungstrom28542 жыл бұрын

    Hmm. First miniatures game, not counting role playing games, was in 1983. Was slightly “busy” in Nov/Dec 2001 being in the Air Force at the time, so missed out on the original release of the FOTR movie and the SBG. I didn’t start playing SBG until Christmas of 2004. I thoroughly enjoy your SBG content and look forward to more-Amazon or no Amazon.

  • @RocketHarry865
    @RocketHarry865 Жыл бұрын

    Rings of Power should never get a miniatures game. That abomination should just die and be forgotten.

  • @bryce3907
    @bryce39072 жыл бұрын

    It was 1996 or 1997 and I was walking into my best mates shed out back and seeing this massive castle that his Dad had built (he is a professional carpenter), and it was Bretonnia Vs Lizardmen vs Chaos; I remember just being absolutely in awe of these models and the whole layout and going home and begging dad for an army.

  • @ScottBowman
    @ScottBowman2 жыл бұрын

    Good to hear Middle-Earth alive and well at Zorpazorp. I look forward to your arrival on our fair shores and hope we get the chance to meet! Hope the move goes smoothly!

  • @billb8698
    @billb86982 жыл бұрын

    My journey started way back in 1986 with D&D but 1988 was when I stared playing warhammer fantasy. Dwarves have always been one of my favorite armies.

  • @C0m3TSw1tch
    @C0m3TSw1tch2 жыл бұрын

    So LOTR got me into war gaming in 2005 but I never played it. The Mt Gravatt Games Workshop was right by where my mum went to the chiro. When I was going on 10 years old my mum would let me wander around as I was bored waiting during her appointment. The building used to have art from Battle for Macragge on the windows but I had no idea what I was looking at. Still, I was curious about what was inside and went in. It was so cool, and I recognised the LOTR models as I had watched the movie on DVD with my parents that year (after mum made me and my brother sit through 36 hours of behind the scenes so we knew the blood and violence wasn't real - and it was cool seeing the movie magic). My first kit was a pack of 12 Moria goblins with a paintbrush and tiny pots of paint. I got some Easterlings next as they were so cool, then I saved my pocket money for the starter set. Now I wanted to get into Warhammer Fantasy as I love fantasy settings andI didn't see many people playing LOTR when I went in but heaps of people played WFB and 40k. My parents wanted me to go LOTR and didn't like WFB due to the magic and demons and stuff (good conservative Christian parents there). If only I realised Bretonnia was a thing that faction was screaming my name, but I digress. So, in the end got the Battle for Macragge, and have had heaps of fun, but I wish I had gotten into LOTR and WFB back then too.

  • @GentleBen_86
    @GentleBen_862 жыл бұрын

    I got into the hobby in 1995 with 2nd edition Warhammer 40K. I was a massive fan of the LOTR books as a kid, obsessed with the films when they came out, but was never really bothered by the game. I don't remember the magazine at all; I didn't play the game, and never knew anyone who played it. Tbh, before this video I had no idea it was all that popular. In my experience, 3rd edition 40K was responsible for getting a lot of my people my age into the hobby. It's nice to hear that the Middle-Earth game had a similar effect for lots of other people and that it's still so beloved.

  • @darkeraeris
    @darkeraeris2 жыл бұрын

    I started in 1996 with some Assault Marines, an attack bike, and a tactical squad. Then I got the 5th edition WHFB starter. The rest is history. Personally, MESBG was never my cup of tea, but I REALLY loved War of the Ring. Still do, wish they would bring it back.

  • @mursey40k14
    @mursey40k142 жыл бұрын

    1988 Warhammer 40K Rogue Trader. My aunt bought me the Metal Harlquin box and the original plastic beaky marine box for my Birthday.

  • @EntmootVideos
    @EntmootVideos2 жыл бұрын

    Thanks for the shout out man! Lord of the Rings warhammer will never die with people like you making ace content! I think GW may already have the licence for the Amazon stuff... BUT WE'LL SEE!!

  • @timfortune9
    @timfortune92 жыл бұрын

    Always had been familiar with 40K, but hadn't quite actually gotten into. I had been thinking about trying miniature wargames after talking with a buddy about his 40K collection. That was when I noticed that GW had made a LOTR game. And since LOTR is one of my favorite all time series (movies and books)... So two years later, I've painted hundreds of miniatures and now I'm contemplating moving to 40K, but I love my massive armies of Orcs and Men (as far as "complete" armies go, my project over the last year was collecting and painting every miniature necessary for the Pelennor Fields module. I'm nearly finished).

  • @EvidensInsania
    @EvidensInsania2 жыл бұрын

    All the character and armour designs of Amazon abomination are shockingly awful. GW would be right to avoid this crap like the plague.

  • @filthyletonk1333
    @filthyletonk13332 жыл бұрын

    first war-game was Donald Featherstone wargame rules from library, first fantasy war-game rule set was reaper by Richard halliwell and rick priestly and sci fi set was striker by gdw. 1981

  • @timlewis1776
    @timlewis17762 жыл бұрын

    2004 and the Return of the King starter set was the start of my hobby journey that continues to this day mainly with 40K now but been a veteran with all 3 of GW’s main systems for more than half my life

  • @michaczerwinski4044
    @michaczerwinski40442 жыл бұрын

    It was 2010 I believe. I just started the primary school and there was a bunch of guys who were playing with minis. I didn't have any clue about what were they. I didn't even know Lotr at that time XD But as I got more into it, watched the films, read the books I also enjoyed the minis more and more. When I left the primary school I dropped the hobby, cause I had no one to play with. Then, in 2018 I discovered a small YT channel with a massive Osgiliath build. I was hit with nostalgia so hard I decided to get back into the hobby and here I am now. Great vid Lachy! I do enjoy the essay format, although I cannot wait to see some MT again :P

  • @Brabbel93
    @Brabbel932 жыл бұрын

    I started in 2007 when I was 14 with the "Balin's Tomb" starter set (or whatever it was called). Currently I'm mostly playing Age of Sigmar but I am planning on giving my Mordor Orcs an overhaul when I'm done with my Bachelor thesis

  • @kentang2426
    @kentang24262 жыл бұрын

    I started 40k in 2000. Between then and now I dabbled in WHFB and played BFG and Mordheim. Started Aeronautica late last year. 2022 I got my first MESBG minis. I absolutely love painting these and the rules look good. Hoping to have my first game in a month or so.

  • @CesarIsaacPerez
    @CesarIsaacPerez2 жыл бұрын

    I got into Tabletop games with Age of Sigmar in 2015 when I was 35 years old. I had learned about Warhammer when I started college in 1998 but it was way too expensive for me to even consider getting into. Now I have 7 AoS armies and 6 armies for 40K with a bunch of warbands for Warcry and Necromunda. I've never played Lord of the Rings, but I love the films and books.

  • @ZeeDoktor
    @ZeeDoktor2 жыл бұрын

    A little GW pamphlet that was inside the RotK Extended DVDs back in 2004 advertising SBG and was obsessed with the minis. Was told of a local store that sold them and picked up a Warriors of Minas Tirith starter paint box set. Later found out there was a game for it and have been obsessed with it ever since.

  • @brunswicklord6365
    @brunswicklord6365 Жыл бұрын

    A couple of months after the Amazon series and frankly all it did was to re kindle my interest in the world of Middle Earth by re re reading The Lord of the Rings, re watching the movies and start painting all the unpainted miniatures from my Deagostini collection and more importantly get some figures on the table and play... and also recruit two friends who each bought a Battlehost boxed set.

  • @admiraldick
    @admiraldick2 жыл бұрын

    Started wargaming in the late 80s/early 90s (not 100% sure what year) when I was around 7 or 8. We owned HeroQuest and played it over and over again. Me and my older brother used to buy blister packs of metal minis from a whole bunch of different manufactures - just whatever fantasy minis we liked the look of. The Fighting Fantasy series of books were also an important influence. I remember later buying a box of monopose Skaven as my first GW wargaming product proper. Seeing the amazing knights and biotitans in the brand new Titan Legions game in WD made me really want to really get into wargaming. So when my friends played 40k it was natural that I did the same. I started with a 2nd Ed GSC but moved onto Chaos after that as the codexes were released and they have been my preferred armies ever since.

  • @admiraldick

    @admiraldick

    2 жыл бұрын

    As for LotR SBG, I didn't get much into it at the time of it's release. The audience for it was much younger than me and the monopose minis, although pretty, didn't appeal. It wasn't until the game was rereleased by Warhammer Historical as Legends of the Old West that I really started to enjoy the system, which lead me back to Middle Earth. I am a massive fan of the Hobbit book (I genuinely think it is superior to LotR). The Nicol Williamson version audio book has had a huge impact on me since childhood. So I'm aiming to recreate the Battle of the 5 Armies as I always imagined it.

  • @mathurindorel8444
    @mathurindorel84442 жыл бұрын

    Funnily enough I started around 2000, before the Lord of the rings strategy battle game came out with Warhammer 40k, there was a vibrant community in Toulouse back then. I never had a defeat leading space marines in the... three games I played until Lord of rings came out and I knew that's what I wanted to play. The first games workshop piece I ever owned was Grombrindal from White Dwarf 100 bought on holidays, it's also the only age of sigmar figurine I have. I did not buy so many figurines from the Fellowship edition, only the fellowship and goblins because those metal orcs were so damn expensive. But when the two towers came out I got about 60 uruk-hai and 20 riders of rohan. When the return of the king came out I was starting an army of elves but received the 120 euros "forces of the dark lord" box instead of the 25 euros warriors of the last alliance I ordered so I stayed with the dark lord for a bit. Which was perfect because my brother was starting to collect a minas tirith army. I think that's about when the serial magazine came out in France and we subscribed because the figurines were incredibly cheap and the painting guides were really nice to improve our techiques. Nowadays I can field 1000 points of most Lord of the Rings armies. Or about 500 points in War of Rings, which is the reason I bought so many base troops.

  • @windsweptjoe442
    @windsweptjoe4422 жыл бұрын

    People need to give games other than 40k a chance. Not every wargame has to be about space marines and more space marines. I wish more people would step out of the GW bubble.

  • @darthrevan4376
    @darthrevan43762 жыл бұрын

    Great format. I started in 2001 because my best pal was playing lotr, but when we got to the store we saw space marines, and as they say, the rest is history.

  • @THX-to6gg
    @THX-to6gg2 жыл бұрын

    I just love the MESBG game mechanics. I particularly like the way heroes are handled. The system is also very versatile and I’ll often use it for my Dark Age historical games.

  • @MichaelWCannon
    @MichaelWCannon2 жыл бұрын

    Been wargaming since 1965. Started with board games and Airfix box sets. Did not get involved in GW games until the 80s when I played Warhammer Fantasy. Then I jumped in to Necromunda in a big way. Now I do 40K, Heresy, LotR, Titanicus, Underworlds, and 3D printing (shhhh,…). Plus historicals.

  • @luciogibilisco3047
    @luciogibilisco30472 жыл бұрын

    I remember seeing the ad on TV for the Battle Games in Middle Earth Magazine, I must have been 8 years old or so. Immediately went to buy the first 3 issues (I believe they came in a bundle, or maybe I was lucky to find the first two when the third was already out). From then, my grandma started buying it for me and I used to find the latest issues when I went visiting her. I have really fond memories of those times. Also, I was shocked to learn just recently that the magazine was published worldwide by De Agostini, whose main headquarter in Italy is really close to where I live!

  • @TakiwaraTaki
    @TakiwaraTaki2 жыл бұрын

    I remember that my brothers gave me the box of warriors of the last alliance for my birthday. That was like 17 years ago I guess. Thats when I started to play.

  • @wolf40k
    @wolf40k2 жыл бұрын

    Started playing 1998, played a GorkaMorka demo game, came back the next day to play a 40k mega battle, which then inspired me to buy the second edition 40k starter set

  • @WargamingHistory
    @WargamingHistory2 жыл бұрын

    Started wargaming in 1979. Played Napoleonic’s first then ww2. Started with GW in 1987. Started wargaming GW middle earth when it released and still have a lot of figures to paint. Looking forward to the new films

  • @shadowkynn
    @shadowkynn2 жыл бұрын

    Yep I remember it well, me and my friend heading to the local corner shop on weekends to pick up our copy of the middle earth magazine, then spending the rest of the day at my dining room table painting and building what ever it was that week before battling. We never knew the rules properly, but we had fun!

  • @justinland5713
    @justinland5713 Жыл бұрын

    My first wargaming experience was in 1992 with Battlemasters. As a teen I butchered most of the models with conversions for Warhammer fantasy, but I still have the mat for it.

  • @dirksiepenkoetter4411
    @dirksiepenkoetter44112 жыл бұрын

    I started 2002 with the Strategy Battle Games in Middle Earth Magazines after the game was shown at a fair for games here in germany. Brought me right into tabletop, till date. My favorit system till than.

  • @pauls3585
    @pauls35852 жыл бұрын

    I started gaming in 1980 with TSR's Chainmail... I started playing 1st Ed Warhammer Fantasy Battles in the mid-80's (Australia) and LoTR from day one and still playing it.

  • @donaldlamonica5675
    @donaldlamonica56752 жыл бұрын

    In college i was invited to play D&D over a classmates house, saw a cool looking knight and asked about it. It was a grail knight from warhammer's bretonnian faction and that was my first time playing D&D and my first time hearing of warhammer... and i got into it from there. I have been thinking about an easterling army for lord of the rings though for many years just never found anyone to play with. Thats the reason i don't play any war games anymore.

  • @TheBioRules
    @TheBioRules2 жыл бұрын

    Got into MESBG back in 2004 while in high school, a friend told me about it since I was so obsessed with Lord of the Rings at the time. Got a mixed pack of Warriors of Minas Tirith and Morannon Orcs, before immediately jumping to Sauron himself. My painting is a lot slower nowadays, but I still love the hobby, and have finally started to try making terrain thanks to this channel.

  • @briarsandbantams
    @briarsandbantams2 жыл бұрын

    I started in wargaming in the mid 80s with an old ook borrowed from our school library. It was about designing your own wargames and we'd play with little plastic Airfix soldiers. After that, I think it was playing AD&D Battlesystem with cardboard counters, carving out our own kingdoms in Grayhawk. Around 1988, I saw an ad for WFB 3rd edition in Dragon magazine. Took a long time off starting in 2001 due to deployments.

  • @benjamin7864
    @benjamin78642 жыл бұрын

    I started wargaming in 2017. I was always interested in MESBG from a young age but didn’t know where to play it. In 2017 I got a 40k painting starter sets to learn to paint so that I could get into Star Wars legion with a friend, that kinda fell through but I got hooked into 40k and then convinced people I met playing that to play Mesbg and now it’s one of our main games and I couldn’t be happier.

  • @claudeheinrich3613
    @claudeheinrich36132 жыл бұрын

    I first came into contact with Warhammer 40k in 2017, passing a shop and then started in 2018. Now I did a 2 year break and im back at 40k. I remember my mom running out of the Warhammer shop in disgust at the prices, ah yes R.I.P bank account.

  • @benscarbeau
    @benscarbeau2 жыл бұрын

    Started Pre-LOTR in around 1995 with Warhammer Fantasy 5th Edition boxed set. White Dwarf magazine is what pulled me in. But loved when LOTR was released, loved painting up The Fellowship! Sadly the scene in my area never really came together. But you sure tempt me to pick up some LOTR again! The stuff you do is just so amazing.

  • @pforson
    @pforson Жыл бұрын

    Started in 1989 with Heroquest and then Warhammer Fantasy. I think most people of my generation started with either Heroquest or Space Crusade. They were perfect entry-level games for 10 year olds!

  • @WMfin
    @WMfin2 жыл бұрын

    I had few undead Warhammer minies back then but by the time LOTR movies and MESBG minies came, I dropped everything else. Then I had a LONG pause, like well over 10 years before I got back in to painting, collecting and playing.

  • @adamkornacki606
    @adamkornacki606 Жыл бұрын

    They should try SOW stuff . Talion , Baranor and bruz of course . And modular ork captains . And units like graugs , drakes and karagor cavalry

  • @rand8821
    @rand88212 жыл бұрын

    I have no idea what year this got started. My dad brought me to the only GW store in norway as far as i know now at least. And he bought the moria set. I was honestly not really instantly interested but some years later i found the models in the garage. Some uruk-hai. And that really invested me.

  • @attiladukai2121
    @attiladukai21212 жыл бұрын

    My first ever wargame was Adeptus Titanicus in 2020. Battlefleet Gothic 2 will be the next one. The reason is because you have to maneuvre your units perfectly, because of the fire arcs. It is just gorgeous. You can beat a much larger Legio than yours if you know what are you doing.

  • @orkinho1
    @orkinho12 жыл бұрын

    I actually started with the Warhammer Fantasy collection you could buy from the press kiosk (I don't know if that's the name tbh) back in the late 90s. But the first game I played a bunch was LoTR again by buying the weekly collection. Way easier to play with friends when you only need like 20 models each for a decent game.

  • @STSGingie
    @STSGingie2 жыл бұрын

    For me it was the Balrog model on display in the local GW store in 1999. I was awed by the model but then I was seduced by The Greater Good and their shiny battlesuits.

  • @xthetenth
    @xthetenth2 жыл бұрын

    I bought some lotr minis in a bookstore in around 2002 or so, and then got into it again walking into a games workshop and getting the 3e starter set in about 2003 or 2004, and then my high school had two bored kids sitting around being a warhammer club and that got me to actually build and play an army.

  • @davethemagicweasel1
    @davethemagicweasel12 жыл бұрын

    I started wargaming before the LOTR game ever came out - battle masters as a kid, then Warhammer fantasy, then 40k. I've never played middle earth, I've never encountered anyone who plays it or so much as mentions it in real life, never seen anyone in a shop or club playing it, and I'm genuinely amazed to find out it was apparently a massive success because that completely passed me by at the time 🤷

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