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Seeing a glossy Woled (lg c2), a matte Woled and a glossy QD OLED, I have to say the following. The QD oled is NOT glossy. Semi glossy, maybe. It is nowhere near anywhere close to the LG C2, which is a mirror. The QD oled feels like a glass, not a mirror. The matte LG Woled isn't matte either, it's kinda semi matte. You can see the matte issues if you pixel peep or sit really close to it, like ~30 cms. Yes, it's obvious. But nobody sits 30 cms away. From further away, you can' tell sh***t unless on a full white screen. And now to put thing into perspective, the freaking QD Oled cannot for the life of it display BLACK. You have to turn off every freaking light. At this point it seems that even an RGB keyboard affects it's black levels. Yes, I'd prefer a glossy woled over a matte woled, but I also prefer a matte woled over the gray QD oled.

@NexGenTek

6 сағат бұрын

Lmao RGb keyboards do not affect the panel and no it’s not semi matte it’s completely glossy. Turn off the lights it’s a oled it’s not impressive unless the lights are off

@seizonsha

Сағат бұрын

even an RGB keyboard affects it's black levels-----> lying gets you what exactly???

I feel like as of recently you’ve changed your content from being a lot of doom and gloom and overly clickbaity, to more fact based, well thought out videos with good humor thrown in. I appreciate you keeping it real man 🤙

@thedisplayguy

4 күн бұрын

Thanks 🙏

@gorofujita5767

3 күн бұрын

I have never seen any "doom and gloom" in this channel

@Spealer

3 күн бұрын

@@gorofujita5767 I have a bit ago. Or at lest most of it was extreme clickbait to get you to click.

I had a 32GS95UE (sent it back, simply because I realized I want a monitor with USB-C, nothing to do with the panel quality), and I have to say it is really good. If you put WOLED and QD-OLED next to eachother the average person will have a hard time telling them apart. I'm saying this as someone who seen LG G3 and S95C right next to eachother and chose the G3 which I am super happy with 5+ months now. The entire QD-OLED vs WOLED discussion is way blown out of proportions, both of these panel technologies are really good.

@Saba-jr8yb

Күн бұрын

I disagree, I had the 32GS95UE and switched to the AW3225QF. Right away the colors in HDR popped compared to the LG. Black crush is awful on LG’s WOLED. Something as simple as a black persons face being distorted due to black crush will be noticed by any user.

@NexGenTek

6 сағат бұрын

Yeah Woled is terrible

I own both the lg and Alienware oleds and i gotta say im impressed by the lg, to me it feels a bit brighter and also the darks don't turn magenta and i don't know why but my inputs feel a little more responsive, so far im enjoying the LG. The Alienware sometimes i feel its too oversaturated.

I much prefer WOLED over QD-OLED. tested both, QD gives me headaches and eye strain when looking at details for too long. also, raised blacks are incredible annoying and I don't want to use it in a pitch black room.

@Savitarax

4 күн бұрын

This is not QD-OLEDs fault it’s the saturation. Crank up digital vibrancy in nvidia control panel and you’ll see your eyes hurt way more. It goes away over time and is a byproduct of humans perceiving saturation as brighter. This straining your eyes. Even though supposedly QD-OLED is less bright.

@thanos1000000fc

4 күн бұрын

@@Savitarax Why am I not getting as much eye strain with WOLED?

@patrikmedia

4 күн бұрын

@@Savitarax no it's the pixel layout. the chromatic abbreviation caused by it makes reading text very unpleasant. I've no problem on WOLED even if it's matte. text simply looks clearer on there at the same ppi. even if I switch to the sRGB mode which is waaay less saturated, it's the same problem. edit: and no, it doesn't go away over time. I used my QD for over 3 months, 8h+ a day working on it and gaming. when I switched to the WOLED it was such an immediate relief. I still have the QD as my secondary monitor so I have a good side by side comparison as well. reading text on QD is just awful, no matter the "vibrancy". I just wish WOLED monitors would get the same glossy coating as the LG TVs, that's my only complaint; although matte really isn't that bad as many people claim to be, most never even saw this LG monitor in person...

@patrikmedia

4 күн бұрын

@@Savitarax both panels appear very similar in saturation in SDR mode, even more so after calibration. what causes eye strain is very simple: the pixel layout that has chromatic abbreviation as a byproduct, especially black text on white background. it's almost not existent on WOLED which is why text clarity is very close to LCD, especially at 140ppi (yes, even with LG using matte coating).

@GreyDireWolf

4 күн бұрын

I agree completely, i also suffered eye strain from my s90c and raised blacks are noticeable even in dark room. WOLED is better imo

Yes. The stupid white pixel is like a "band-aid" artificial method to increase brightness with the heavy downside of washing out scenes that should be bright colors with just white. Would be cool to see like a true RGB panel from them with just MLA tbh

@thedisplayguy

4 күн бұрын

RGB MLA would be incredible 👏👏👏

Is the matte coating on LG apply to all TVs or just monitors?

@romkkaa

3 күн бұрын

Just monitors

LG is WAY more reliable than Samsung, that alone is enough even if they aren't qdoled.

@GGP337

3 күн бұрын

QD-OLED is way better in colour reproduction, that isn't even considering the cost reduction

@drunkhusband6257

3 күн бұрын

@@GGP337 Doesn't matter if your Samsung is broken in less than a year like most peoples...

@GGP337

2 күн бұрын

​@@drunkhusband6257 monitor has 3 year warranty, I don't want people to spend money on an inferior product and to enjoy a QD-Oled monitor as much as I have

@NexGenTek

6 сағат бұрын

@@drunkhusband6257most people my ass. I’ve had worst issues with lg than my Samsungs.

Not related to this video, but I'd love to hear your thoughts on the Samsung 55" Odyssey Ark for use as an MSFS2020 monitor...

Can you please make a video about your opinions on the best options for hybrid photo/video editing and gaming monitors please.

Glossy LG OLED is the only thing worth even considering in my opinion. Samsungs main drawback is their failure in even a small ambient amount of light.

Can you make review for SAMSUNG S90c 83 inch is 0 reviews online !

I used both WOLED and QD-OLED and the truth is they are both great and I dont really notice a difference.

@vmayuri1702

3 күн бұрын

Is the Matt, really that noticeable? Tbf the matt cover is the only reason why i didnt order the LG one yet

@syko846

3 күн бұрын

@@vmayuri1702 if you haven't used a glossy panel you won't notice. But once you try a glossy QD OLED panel it's easy to see the difference.

@Insertnamehere3000

3 күн бұрын

Text is the issue on woled

@PandaMoniumHUN

3 күн бұрын

@@Insertnamehere3000 Funny that you say that when the subpixel layout on the new LG WOLEDs actually makes text better than on QD-OLEDs in my opinion.

@michaelwyckoff7593

3 күн бұрын

I have both too WOLED and QD OLED. I like both technologies😊😊

The G4 is a monster😊

If LG makes a glossy coating for the OLED Monitor line-UP like they use on the C-Series WOLED would be almost a no brainer.

I can’t wait till we get high resolution oleds for productivity use cases. It seems like there is only 4K and below right now

I had the 32GS95UE and returned it due to the awful crushed blacks with the latest firmware. Never touching WOLED again. Switched to the AW3225QF and those same scenes showed much more details in those dark scenes. The colors in HDR looked amazing on QD-OLED compared to LG’s WOLED.

I've had a C1 48" for a few years. The coating is beautiful and blacks stay black under any lighting condition.

I scored my 55" LG C1 for under $1100 2yrs ago, as it was by far the best bang for buck at the time, and would not trade it for the world. Still holding out for a 32" 4k hdr10 240hz glossy variant for my desk though!

To be honest the 32GS95UE/X is not that bad but yes colors are better on any QD-OLED. I just can not get over the bad coating applied to them. That "glossy" coating is just so flimsy not useable for everyday use. But apart from that QD-OLED is better apart from VRR Flicker.

Let's put it this way: You hate matte finishing, I hate glossy finishing. Give or take.

if they fix the ambient light issue with qd-oled technology and the display stays fully black no matter the lighting, then i think it's over for woled

I got the dual mode 480hz and I love it. I’m coming from a 240hz 1440p omen monitor

@chai817

2 күн бұрын

How’s the quality on the 480hz mode

@TheOfficial_AW

2 күн бұрын

@@chai817 Honestly, if you turn up the sharpening, it doesn’t look half bad. I’ve played multiple games and it’s hit or miss. Call of duty is fine, Apex is a little more rough, but Frag Punk and valorant are perfectly fine

The raised blacks with ambient light sucks, but qd-oled can ultimately achieve the best picture, so i prefer it.

your cats are amazing

@BulleTinY0uRHeaD

3 күн бұрын

Yes! Someone should have said that xD

I have lg woled, and I use one cuz qd oled gave me severe eye strain and headache. Lg had matte that dissipate light evenly for human eye. You lose like 15% sharpness, but for work is not an issue. Without matte you guys will get instant eye strain. Pixel cleaning is AUTO. also g gsync must be used with 100% brightness or you get some headache. Game quality is the same as qd oled. But qd oled 32 inch is sharp as Mac book pro. It’s ASUS oled text is RAZER SHARP, IF YOU GET ONE MAKE SURE DISABLE GSYNC or you will get instant eye strain😊

Can't wait for you to review the samsung 360hz g6

I just bought the Sony A80L with LG WOLED panel and it's great even though i saw the Sony A95L besides with QDOLED, the price increase is just not worth it in my opinion. Just buy a display with LG OLED it's fine.

Every manufacturer should make monitors like tvs.

I have the 32GS95UE, love the Matte screen :)

I'll never buy a QD-OLED panel. Those raised black levels with ambient light looks like crap. WOLED FTW

I think that while it would be better for the image to get rid of the white subpixel, it is still neccessary to prevent burn in. QD Oleds burn in is still a thing. Look at Tim video from hardware unboxed and Rtings testing. Oled tech is still not durable enough to get rid of the white subpixel in my opinión. Just do some research and you'll see people with CX and C1 still rocking their screens without any burn in after several years

With perfect contrast/motion and good enough brightness on both. The only thing left is COLOR. Which QD-OLED takes easily.

@ameliabuns4058

4 күн бұрын

You forgot about the lack of polarizer on the qd OLED, woled has way better contrast in anything but a pitch black room, then it’s equal, which is the main point of OLED

@Savitarax

3 күн бұрын

@@ameliabuns4058 it just has to be a room with no DIRECT light shining on the display. I have a room with a warm bright light directly above but ever so slightly behind the QD-oled i have and it's PITCH black like my LG. The lack of a polarizer only matters when the light directly interferes with the pixels not indirectly.

@tylerstirling2843

3 күн бұрын

@@ameliabuns4058I went back to Woled for this very reason. Colors are nice but lifted blacks are an absolute no go.

Woled is lower brightness in any other scenarios minus white screen. qd oled has higher brightness when there are colors, woled brightness plumets in real life scenario.

@crowntotheundergroud

3 күн бұрын

Yes so qd oled is actually 3-4 times brighter

@ArseniTecH-vm1fg

3 күн бұрын

Not at all, turn gsync and hdr and you get sustained 600 nits brightness, have have both, and they look about the same

If only LG would sell me a desktop monitor that looks as good as my G3 I would buy it without hesitation. LG really doesn't understand how much people love their glossy coating.

@ArseniTecH-vm1fg

3 күн бұрын

I returned ASUS within 3 days cuz it would strain my eyes like crazy, but picture was so o good. Then I got lg 32 oled, and magic, 000 eye strain even with 100% brightness, even 16 hours of gaming, wow! Mate screen doesn’t let blue light hit ur eyes directly, so I can use it forever😊. With Asus I wanted to vomit in 5 min of gaming.

@BulleTinY0uRHeaD

3 күн бұрын

@@ArseniTecH-vm1fg which Asus did you return? PG32UCDM?

AW2725DF or XG27AQDMG?

@DoomGuy148.

3 күн бұрын

Both are good though arguably Alienware is better because of insane 360hz refresh rate. If the price is the same get Alienware if Asus sells considerably cheaper get that instead.

The matte coating is great if you do both office work and gaming. Text clarity is better.

@thicklips

4 күн бұрын

Hardware antialiasing

@5ean5ean22

4 күн бұрын

Cope

@enzopied3015

3 күн бұрын

@5ean5ean22 sounds like you're the one coping friend, as you got triggered off his comment

2:17 woopsidoodle

You have a lion cub on your entertainment system.

me when I bought my monitor yesterday

atleast woled doesnt hurt your eyes like qd-oled that emits way to much blue light

@Savitarax

4 күн бұрын

It’s not blue light, it’s saturation. Blue light was a huge myth for years that it hurts your eyes. Just try cranking up digital vibrancy and you’ll see what I mean. Even if you turn on “blue light filter modes” on monitors. If the colors are still very saturated it will still hurt.

@patrikmedia

4 күн бұрын

@@Savitarax this doesn't matter in this comparison. both QD and WOLED look great in SDR, the difference in saturation is absolutely minimal, even less so after calibration. it takes a higher brightness where QD starts to overshadow WOLED in terms of color saturation, but that's not the mode most people use the monitor for when reading text etc. pixel layout is what causes the eye strain, because there is a green and purple tint on text that is very irritating (QD). not really an issue on these current gen RGWB layout used on WOLEDs and thats why text clarity it's nearly identical to LCDs with same ppi.

@GGP337

3 күн бұрын

@@patrikmedia colour saturation is a big difference imo, colours exist on my monitor that don't exist on my c2, especially reds.

@patrikmedia

3 күн бұрын

@@GGP337 the C2 uses an older gen panel compared to this LG monitor and it can vary A LOT depending on what preset you use. calibrated both QD and WOLED look pretty much identical. it's only the extremes where you start noticing differences (higher brightness 200+ nits, wide gamuts, etc)

@DoomGuy148.

3 күн бұрын

My Alienware 27" qd-oled doesn't hurt eyes one bit. Genetic failures with trash eyes and low T are the ones at risk.

i like your sense of humour :)

32GS95UE

ask them, all i can say w my phone and laptop its far from what i saw

just test new g6 g8 oled new monitors and compare ...

@patrikmedia

3 күн бұрын

yep I'd be super stoked to see a close up comparison of QD-OLED glossy vs matte and how that affects clarity. currently it's hard to compare with WOLED since current gen we only have matte as an option, these is no glossy version available that uses the same panel/ppi

@cyberneticorganism.

3 күн бұрын

@@patrikmedia It's also a shame only Asus & LG use the panels, there are no other brands (as far as i know) that use them. For the 32-inch 4K models the Asus is not in stock over here (the Netherlands), it's a disaster. So i can only choose LG, or LG ;-) They also took a wrong turn with that fan. But i am still on the WOLED side personally.

@patrikmedia

3 күн бұрын

@@cyberneticorganism. there are other models but in the Asian markets. and the Asus you're referring to didn't even release yet, there are no reviews on KZread either. might have mistaken it with the QD version Asus. The dual mode one using this LG panel is only available in LGs monitor right now, like you said. also, no idea when the Asus version will launch... there's also a 1440p 480hz one releasing this summer, but still no clue when actually. seems like they postponed the launch for both models. EDIT: maybe (but very unlikely) they saw community feedback and switched over to glossy coating, same as that recent 1440p 240hz WOLED relaunch. would be great, even tho that coating is worse than what they use on LG tvs.

@cyberneticorganism.

3 күн бұрын

@@patrikmedia Ah yeah you are right, i was referring to the PG32UCDM, but that's an QD-OLED. It's the PG34WCDM that is WOLED. I am only interested myself in the 4K 32-inch, or Ultrawide 34-inch (WOLED). Or 5K20 Ultrawides next year... I am fine with matt coating i think so. Only i do like the design of Asus a lot, and the passive cooling as well.

@patrikmedia

3 күн бұрын

@@cyberneticorganism. I personally like Asus for their features but dislike the design unfortunately lol I'm sure their version will be the better compared to LG, but curious to see how the pricing will be. Got mine fairly cheap, not expecting the Asus to less for anything below 1.4-1.5k usd tbh

Don't use woleds because the have the dirty gray issue. Ie artefacts are present when it displays gray or darker shades. Super obvious if u use windows dark mode.

@patrikmedia

3 күн бұрын

thats the coatings fault not WOLED. LG TVs don't have that grainy appearance on dark solid shades of color.

@Pillokun

3 күн бұрын

@@patrikmedia nope, it is not because of the coating, u literally see darker horizontal lines then the gray/dark shades as if u see "scan lines" of a crt, but thicker.

@patrikmedia

3 күн бұрын

@@Pillokun no you dont, the matte LG has some grain to it (randomized, feels like a texture) meanwhile an LG TV looks very clean which uses glossy. idk what panel you look at but neither of those two have scan lines.

@Pillokun

2 күн бұрын

@@patrikmedia the dirty gray issue is caused by the woled panels itself not he coating. On my lg and asus both were displaying artefacts like horizontal lines, they both went back to the store. Funny is nobody talked about the dirty gray issue and I only saw the issue when I was reading other peoples review of the monitors on the entailers review section to the monitors the issues seems to be voltage related according to some people and has nothing to do with the matte coating. when a monitor reviewer had a Premier and was in the chat I brought it up with him, and his defence was, va has dirty gray issues too so I dont focus that much on it. Connor, does not even bring it up at all, and Tim mentioned it max three times in a very passing by manner so to speak. Reviewers are as always full of bs, either they focus on wrong issues or just want to sell so to speak.

@patrikmedia

2 күн бұрын

@@Pillokun idk man, my WOLED tv looks just as clear as QD with glossy coating. that grainy look only is visible on the matte LG WOLED. just reporting what I see in front of my eyes right now.

What are u talking about?😂

Really 🤣🤣 I love my LG OLED

The biggest problem with the "Woled" white pixel is chrominance overshoot. It causes banding in dark scenes. My 27GR95QE has it everywhere. Its so bad im returning it. Also vertical banding is very bad. The VRR flicker is bad as well on the 27GR95QE. So bascialy in dark games like RE4, you see vertical banding, dark color banding and vrr flickering at the same time.

😮

First!😊

Oled sucks, wether it's LG, Asus or something else. Burning is the redflag.

@GregoryCunningham

3 күн бұрын

Burning is definitely a red flag, some might even consider it dangerous. Burn in on the other hand is handled very well by most OLED’s, especially on LG’s.