One of the best scholars on Islam and Christianity.....May Allah bless him for his amazing work

I bear Witness there is no God but Allah and Muhammad is his final messenger and Jesus son of mery is one of God's Messenger.

@vaishalitornae3034

4 жыл бұрын

Allah never did any miracle nor he will do any miracles

@rahoofmuhammed2783

4 жыл бұрын

@James Levara bro, that's your genetic problem. Keep it up.

@ramigilneas9274

3 жыл бұрын

Abu M I R The Ethiopian Joseph Smith is the last messenger of God.

@THEALBANIANMUJAAHID

3 жыл бұрын

@@ramigilneas9274 Joseph smith never performed any miracle or prophecy. And literally copied the Quran. And the Book of Mormon has been proven false so many times. It had to changed so many times. Unlike the Quran which is the true word of god. There is no god but Allah and Muhammad is his final messenger.

@ramigilneas9274

3 жыл бұрын

@@THEALBANIANMUJAAHID Well, Jews and Christians will say that there is no difference between Joseph Smith and Muhammad or the book of Mormon and the Quran.😂

I love how respectful both debaters are to each other and everyone else!

@Pikkinmink7

5 жыл бұрын

Same

Amazing debate by Dr Shabbir Ali.

Thanks for posting this entire video.

@jandom9008

5 жыл бұрын

He was a Musician ... what is he now

Dr Shabbir Ali is awesome!!

@azimashraf7086

5 жыл бұрын

النَّفْسُ الْمُطْمَئِنَّةُ Alhamdulillah I love listening to his debates he’s better than Zakir Naik when it comes to debating

@FehmeenaAhmad

5 жыл бұрын

@@azimashraf7086 every one is good in their own way, no need of comparison!

@thilolg

5 жыл бұрын

Azim Ashraf i agree. He is humble and doesn’t try to humiliate people who want to learn unlike some

@Islam-fl4pm

4 жыл бұрын

Azim Ashraf “he’s better than zakir naik” 🤦‍♂️ ur funny kid.

@FehmeenaAhmad

4 жыл бұрын

@@Islam-fl4pm zakir naik is good too in his own way. May Allah protect and preserve him and his family! Ameen

I thank God for making me a Muslim

@zafster22

5 жыл бұрын

Lance Gin Stop eating so much pig - the effects are starting to show

@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388

5 жыл бұрын

God doesn’t make one a muslin or Christian. It’s a choice that one makes. As a loving Father He keeps wooing us to Him. His grace and mercy beckons us to follow Him

@zubair7931

5 жыл бұрын

@Lance Gin if u eat pig *U* become pig!

@shuvorahman8178

5 жыл бұрын

Mashallah

@shuvorahman8178

5 жыл бұрын

@Lance Gin Where did Bible/Quran said about this?

Shabir ally make me my faith as a Muslim increase more

Best debate of brother Shabir Ally ma sha Allah

I agree any comments we share here should be respectful and relevant to the content these two gentleman shared.

@anjumanara3493

5 жыл бұрын

I respect everyone s sentiment

@anjumanara3493

5 жыл бұрын

If you read the Holy Quran you will know more about Jesus(peace be upon him).Holy Quran is very much interesting as there is a special character on Mary .

@chadgarber

5 жыл бұрын

anjuman786ara Anjuman Ara I have read it.

@muhammadkhairulizat

5 жыл бұрын

Jesus is a prophet called “Nabi Isa” and he will comes back here, to refute any believes that he is a GOD...

@instantbless1024

5 жыл бұрын

@@anjumanara3493 islam shows us the straight path. not some confusing 3 in 1, 1 as 3 etc

Thanks for uploading full debate

May Allah save Shabir. He is such a learned man.

@amazingamazigh6847

5 ай бұрын

He is a Muslim. All Muslims will be saved and go to Jannaat. Ask Allah to save the Christians by guiding them to the truth of Islam!

This video clearly proves that Christianity is false.. This video made me convert to Islam Alhamdulila

@amarildoacome3545

5 жыл бұрын

converted by a debate...wow

Christians are still stumble to define trinity till today

@iweoldtimer

5 жыл бұрын

The main problem is not their belief, the problem is they DONT want to believe. There's a lot of sign of Allah in this world.

@instantbless1024

5 жыл бұрын

and lastly they said "we do not have to understand God". haha

@shuvorahman8178

5 жыл бұрын

1+1+1=3....Mathematical error

@azad1718

4 жыл бұрын

Lance Gin Allah is the creator of everything in the universe and beyond. He created little Jesus in his mother’s womb just like he created ungrateful you . He can create anyone without male sperm . He created Adam without father and mother. .

@azad1718

4 жыл бұрын

Lance Gin trinity is a Bulshit invented by drunk idolator polytheistic pagan Greek several hundred years after Jesus departure. And believed by many ignorant like you

Great! Hope for more such debates! So friendly and respectful ♥️

I subscribed to you channel. I am a Christian and your channel seems like a fantastic resource!

@ibraheemabraham8897

5 жыл бұрын

Quran chapter 5-75 🌟The Messiah, son of Mary, was not but a messenger; [other] messengers have passed on before him. And his mother was a supporter of truth. They both used to eat food. Look how We make clear to them the signs; then look how they are deluded. 5-77 🌟Say, "O People of the Scripture, do not exceed limits in your religion beyond the truth and do not follow the inclinations of a people who had gone astray before and misled many and have strayed from the soundness of the way."

@chadgarber

5 жыл бұрын

@@ibraheemabraham8897 Yea, I have listened to the entire Quran as an audio book.

@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388

5 жыл бұрын

Abraham Ibrahim true believers do not follow the inclinations of people and get deceived. Watch very/Beth Yeshua

@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388

5 жыл бұрын

Abraham Ibrahim one simple question will solve the truth. Why was Jesus born of a virgin with no earthly father? Simple answer because only a Holy God can atone for humankind sins hence He had to be born from above not of the earth

@KhalidASelam

5 жыл бұрын

@@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388 that is one of the miracles: Allah wanted to do something than he did it.

may Allah bless truth shall prevail for uploading this video

@paeng46

5 жыл бұрын

Yes, you are right. The truth shall prevail and that is the Lord Jesus Christ. He is the (only) way, the (only) truth, and the (only) life (John 14:6). He is God.

@TussalDragon344

5 жыл бұрын

Tfw people just ignore the fact that the video exists to prove people, like the one above this reply, that they were wrong, in nearly every way possible, and yet they still stick to the proven wrong...

@paeng46

5 жыл бұрын

@@TussalDragon344 So, if I am wrong about the Lord Jesus Christ as The Way, The Truth and The Life, then show me from your Qur'an where the power of your god Allah revealed in the works of your prophet Muhammad. Nothing. Muhammad never healed any sickness or diseases in his time, nor did he make one blind man see. If he was sent from the true God, shouldn't God gave his followers signs to prove that he's a messenger from God, as did Paul, Peter, James and some of the rest of the Apostles of Christ?

@TussalDragon344

5 жыл бұрын

@@paeng46 The Quran is considered as one of Prophet Mohammad's (P&BBUH) many miracles anyway. Though, Isa (PBUH) got his "powers" from PERMISSION FROM GOD, and not out of thin air. And just because he "never healed any sickness or diseases in his time, nor did he make one blind man see" doesn't mean he isn't a Prophet + you can't categorize God under these circumstances/ "signs"; Satan can also do these things too (I think, due to Jinn and Human connection or through Unholy Magic). Also, Paul, Peter and James, of whom we do not know there full origins and details, are considered those who've not only misunderstood Isa (PBUH), but also have single-handedly misguided 2.2 billion people today under a False Peace and under False claims/ interpretations/ narratives.

@paeng46

5 жыл бұрын

@@TussalDragon344 The Qur'an is not a miracle. The Qur'an was made up from the pigment of Muhammad's imagination. And the Qur'an itself is the one that proved his falsehood. If Jesus did miracles by the permission of God as you said, then that means Jesus is God. As only God alone can do the THINGS that he has the power to do so. Yes, Satan can do miracles too. The Bible calls this deception. Miracles that were done in the name of God are those that demonstrate the power of God by the word that came from God, and that made people believe the message that God wanted for them to hear-- and that is the miracles Jesus did in his time. The apostles Peter, Peter and James and the rest of God's apostles never misguided people. They led believers to Jesus Christ by their preaching. Only Muslims perhaps believe that they are misguided by the teaching of these apostles "for the preaching of the cross is to them that perish foolishness"(I Corinthians 1:18). Muhammad is the one that deceived you and the billions of Muslims around the world-- for example by making you believe in the sexually perverted imaginary heaven of Allah from the wild imagination of Muhammad. The heaven that you are dreaming to go to is nothing but corruption and perversion of the human morality and sanctity.

Channel art looks awesome (by the way)

Great debate

Latest debate! I will be watching the video. Thanks TRUTH SHALL PREVAIL. Hope you upload more debates.

I think Jacoby is not a match for dr. Ally although dr. Ally was so soft with him!

Nice!

How come 1+1+1+1+1++1=still 1❎ Jesus is God +Jesus is died = who is God? Sir Douglas fail to respond most of the questions by Muslim, May Allah bless and increase long life of brother Shabir Ali. And bring those Christian from dark to light, ameen

@professor05523

5 жыл бұрын

@@choward5430 .... 😂😂😂where did you studied maths...your school may have forgetten to tell when we are use additional symbol...Jesus was lived in the earth at the period of 2000 yes back,at the same time,yehowa was there ( Jesus prayed him),and holy ghost also...then there are three persons....in this situation we said that they are three and not one...... Why are u multiplying 1*1*1=1 ...what is the meaning to this...

@professor05523

5 жыл бұрын

@@choward5430 .....you are also misunderstood about light.... Light is the clarification towards truth...yes of course Jesus was light for isreal at when he was teached about truth and one god and gospel...so this is the meaning of light.... Jesus was not glowing....😂😂😂

@professor05523

5 жыл бұрын

@@choward5430 .... I have a doubt in your Christianity bro...pls clear that... No Christian could have answered that,they are ignored that question or not responded.. Before the Jesus, there are billions of people were lived in the earth and died...my question is " will all that people goes to the heaven? Are you a true christian or have you a true knowledge about Christianity ,clarify my question without contradiction...

@75ameerarafath

5 жыл бұрын

@@choward5430 Nice comment wish you read it n think over it... According to Christian believe 👇👇 😇1, Who is God? Jesus. 2, Is Jesus the son of Mary? Yes. 3, Who created Mary? God. 4, Who is God? Jesus. 5, Jesus is the begotten son? Yes 6, Who is his father? God. 7, Who is God? Jesus. 8, Jesus is a servant of God? Yes 9, Who is God? Jesus. 10, Jesus died on the cross. Yes 11, Who resurrected him? God. 12, Who is God? Jesus. 13, Jesus is a messenger. Yes. 14, Who sent him? God. 15, Who is God? Jesus. 16, Did Jesus worship while on earth? Yes. 17, Whom did he worship? God. 18, Who is God? Jesus. 19, Did God have a beginning? No. 20, Then who was born on 25/DEC?Jesus according to Christian believe 21, Is Jesus God?.......................................... 22, Where is God? in heaven, 23, How many are there in heaven? Only one God. 24, Where is Jesus? He is seated on the right hand of his father. 25, Then how many are they in heaven? Only one God. 26, Then how many seats? One 27, Where's Jesus? Seated next to God. 28, Then how are they seated? Its only understood by those with the holy spirit. kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHaL162eh7etaZc.html So beautiful to be a Muslim. Alhamdulillah for the gift of Islam. Regards Mr Muslim 1+1+1=1❎👎 1+1+1+=3💯✅👌

@75ameerarafath

5 жыл бұрын

@@choward5430 kzread.info/dash/bejne/jHaL162eh7etaZc.html

I really liked this debate, very respectful and respectable individuals, we may have differences, but the approach that leads to discussion is very admirable from both doctors

Amazing Debate Brother Shabir, May Allah Bless You and Your Family.

A very civil, engaging, and educational debate; which is a great credit to both sides, for the respect they showed each other throughout the discussion. Solid arguments are put forward by both parties in a firm but polite way. A highly recommended video - thanks for uploading.

Oh new debate of shabir ally

i am a Hindu...not christian, not Muslim. But, i must say this is a very healthy debate. Very good.

@azad1718

4 жыл бұрын

Pinpati Narendra dev who do you think make sense? Shabbir or Jacobi ? Be impartial in your judgement

shukran very fruitful debate learn a lot

Brilliant debate.

I like ur Chanel but too many ads

Alhamdulillah. May Allah bless u with the best reward Brother Shabir😁

If christians follow the lords prayor they are no longer christians

MashAllah a very respectful debate

Shabir won.

@iweoldtimer

5 жыл бұрын

Obviously

@zafster22

5 жыл бұрын

Bardhyl Shala Seeing as we’re all stating the obvious - here’s another one: Jesus is not God

@zainulabideenalikhan5849

5 жыл бұрын

Definitely he always win

@keesjan414

5 жыл бұрын

Not shabir has won. The truth in shabir has won

Well done brother Shabir

Why does the video cut out the question of the guy questioning Dr. Jacoby at time 1:47:14????? Sounded like a debate ending question. Smh really disappointing.

Good debat

Douglas jacoby is so decent in this debate, respect for that

@julio14335

5 жыл бұрын

Abu Muhammad Musa : You can sense Douglas Jacoby is an intelligent guy who perhaps deserved his Doctorate degree, but when it comes to the doctrine of the Trinity he sounds like a 5th grade student.

@iweoldtimer

5 жыл бұрын

@@julio14335 win statement!

@zafster22

5 жыл бұрын

Abu Muhammad Musa There is a good chance for him to be guided in that case. God hates the arrogant

@thilolg

5 жыл бұрын

Julio Kosters when people want to believe something real bad they somehow convince themselves

@ujangsenang7512

Жыл бұрын

​@@julio14335 yeah. No one thinks trinity refer to one

Douglas Jacoby answered all questions straightforward and informative!

*Dr Ally won as a piece of cake.*

Can i have a link to the scholar? Theres some serious thing i need to ask. İt will be really greatful to have some answers i really need it to keep me stronger

@Noeman2009

5 жыл бұрын

What's your question?

Jesus acknowledges that he has a God. Jesus said, “Do not hold on to me, for I have not yet ascended to the Father. Go instead to my brothers and tell them, ‘I am ascending to my Father and your Father, to my God and your God.’” [John 20:17] Some Trinitarians might attempt to explain such statements away by saying that it was only the human side of Jesus being subservient to God, not his divine side. The problem is that later in the Bible, after Jesus has ascended and cast aside all human limitations, he is still saying “my God”: I am coming soon. Hold on to what you have, so that no one will take your crown. The one who is victorious I will make a pillar in the temple of my God. Never again will they leave it. I will write on them the name of my God and the name of the city of my God, the new Jerusalem, which is coming down out of heaven from my God; and I will also write on them my new name. [Revelation 3:11-12] So their explanation of the human side of Jesus doing the talking would falls apart when he is still using the same language of subservience as he did whilst he was here on earth. Moreover Jesus surrenders his kingdom to God: Then the end will come, when he hands over the kingdom to God the Father after he has destroyed all dominion, authority and power. For he must reign until he has put all his enemies under his feet. The last enemy to be destroyed is death. For he “has put everything under his feet.” Now when it says that “everything” has been put under him, it is clear that this does not include God himself, who put everything under Christ. When he has done this, then the Son himself will be made subject to him who put everything under him, so that God may be all in all. [1 Corinthians 15:24-28] If Jesus is fully God, and an equal member of the Trinity, then why does Jesus give back his kingdom to God the Father when our world comes to an end? In addition, why is Jesus made subject to God after he has surrendered his kingdom over? Clearly, God is forever supreme over all, including Jesus.

@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388

5 жыл бұрын

Moiz Ahmed Khan even though Jesus is divine He subjects Himself To the authority of the Father. He is the eternal word of God who took on flesh to atone for our sins, so we can be reconciled back to His Father

@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388

5 жыл бұрын

Moiz Ahmed Khan the right way is to worship the Father through His Son Jesus. All Jesus ever wants is His Father to be glorified,

@moizahmed4705

5 жыл бұрын

Seek the truth and the truth will set u free But that's what you are saying not Jesus. How can Jesus be God in any way if he has a God of himself and dependent on him? We all know that God is independent.

@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388

5 жыл бұрын

Moiz Ahmed Khan it’s not what I say that matters, what matters is what God has said : Jesus is the eternal word of God who is our atoning sacrifice so we get His righteousness to stand before a Holy God.

@seekthetruthandthetruthwil2388

5 жыл бұрын

Moiz Ahmed Khan Jesus in the flesh is about 2000 years back but He was eternally existing with the Father. Something before my birth, I was in my father’s loins and so was my father before his birth back to Adam. Ours is a physical world while the heavenly is a spiritual world. Hence Jesus is divine yet He lets the Father get all the glory

I really wonder when Christian Theologians will understand Islam's position on Gospel!! It's been 1400+ years. C'mon! Atleast be genuine in your approach!

I think Jesus peace be upon him is more like a prophet than God almighty

1:30:32 was he Sheikh Imran Hossen?

@iweoldtimer

5 жыл бұрын

No. But close enough!

May Allah guide all of my Christian and Jewish brothers. All Abrahamic religions should become one body.

Dr Shabir Ally was way too strong in argumentation for Douglas Jacoby

Mark 14:60 So the high priest stood up before them and questioned Jesus, “Have You no answer? What are these men testifying against You?” . Again the high priest questioned Him, “Are You the Christ, the Son of the Blessed One?” 62“I am,” said Jesus, “and you will see the Son of Man sitting at the right hand of Power and coming with the clouds of heaven.”…

Alhamdulillah. Dr. Shibir Ally talked very wisely and logically with evidences. What I liked more about this debate is the manner both of these debaters came up with. I found Mr. Jecoby is an excellent person. I respect and appreciate his attitude. I make duwa and Pray for him so that May Allah lights his heart with the light of guidance. Ameen. Yes, we shouldnt be ingorant. We should be loving toward eachother and talk with respect and reason with wisdim and logics. Let not force ourselves to believe in anything that never makes sense. Say, "He is Allah, [who is] One, Allah, the Eternal Refuge. He neither begets nor is born, Nor is there to Him any equivalent." Al Quran 112 :1-4

John10:36 Say ye of him, whom the Father hath sanctified, and sent into the world, Thou blasphemest; because I said, I am the Son of God? End of debate!

Stop following *PAUL* CHRIST Now follow jesus's teaching and Muhammad's teaching!

Mathematical errors,Scientific error,Historical errors,policy errors etc is only possible for The Bible (The Corrupted Book of GáD)

Douglas Jacoby at 15:39 made a claim that Jesus accepted worship as God in the Bible. He quote a passage like the following in order to show that people worshipped Jesus as God and he accepted it (or at least, didn’t reject it): But when he saw Jesus afar off, he ran and worshipped him, [Mark 5:6] The Greek word used in this verse for worship is ‘proskyneō’. Strong’s Bible Dictionary says that this word literally means: “to kiss the hand to (towards) one, in token of reverence” This same word is used to describe acts of reverence to people other than Jesus. Here a servant falls to his knees and “worships” (‘proskyneō’) his master: “At this the servant fell on his knees before him. ‘Be patient with me,’ he begged, ‘and I will pay back everything.’” [Matthew 18:26] This is part of a parable Jesus gave of a slave who was unable to repay a substantial sum of money to his master. He was merely expressing the kind of reverence and respect due the king, his master and superior. Another example is that Jacob bowed down seven times upon meeting his brother, Esau [Genesis 33:3], or when Joseph’s brothers prostrated themselves, or did obeisance, before him in honour of his position at the Egyptian court [Genesis 42:6]. Clearly, then, acts such as prostrating and kneeling (which are translated as “worship”) are not reserved exclusively for the type of adoration due to God. It can also refer to the respect and honour shown to another person. Finally, there is a Greek word which does refer to the worship of God, ‘latreuó’. Here is an example of its usage in the New Testament: ‘But I will punish the nation they serve as slaves’, God said, ‘and afterward they will come out of that country and worship [latreuó] me in this place’. [Acts 7:7] This word is never once used in the New Testament in relation to Jesus, it’s only ever used to describe the devotion given to God. If Jesus were God then one would expect this word to be used in reference to him, but it never is, it’s reserved exclusively for God. There is a perfectly logical explanation as to why this is: the authors of the New Testament did not use this word in relation to Jesus because none of them believed that he is equal to God!

@sekousmiley9765

5 жыл бұрын

Nicely put bro.

first 👊👊👊

I think we should all preach the righteousness,the most greates ness of our religion...as many people are still confused and still believing to apostates...and unfortunately most of the muslims also get lost and certeinly looses there faith so we should all do something and encourage all to seek refugee in Allah from saitan and to remove there confusion by contacting islamic websites..and we should dawah as much as we can even with small knowledge..atleast it will restore peoples faith..and Jazak Allah khair for videos.. truth shall really prevail And we should all keep in mind one thing we should never urgue with non muslims if they keep urguing as One Needs Allahs Mercy And Blessings to be in His religion...may Allah guide us all,And keep our iman steadfast Ameen 😀😀

@koromanglabangluru8848

5 жыл бұрын

All ha is not the god of Israel or Jews it's someone else moon god haaaaa

Douglas Jacoby at 19:48 misquoted the following verse of the Qur'an and claimed that it tells Christians to obey their Gospel: "He has sent down upon you, [O Muhammad], the Book in truth, confirming what was before it. And He revealed the Torah and the Gospel." [Qur'an 3:3] This verse talks about Torah and the Gospel being revealed to the people of the book but where does it say to the Christians to obey the Gospel? According to the Qur'an the Bible is corrupted: "So woe to those who write the scripture with their own hands, then say, This is from Allah, in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn." [Qur'an 2:79]

Why God makes is so difficult to comprehend Him through the concept of Trinity? He makes people grapple to understand Him... forever.

@ehsanramjan9869

5 жыл бұрын

And in the Gospel According to John, 17:3, Jesus declares that the ONE HE PRAYED TO IS THE ONLY TRUE GOD. 3 And this is life eternal, that THEY MIGHT KNOW THEE THE ONLY TRUE GOD, AND JESUS CHRIST, WHOM THOU HAST SENT. (John 17:3) “‘YOU SHALL WORSHIP THE LORD YOUR GOD, AND HIM ONLY YOU SHALL SERVE.’” (Luke 4:8) BUT IN VAIN THEY DO WORSHIP ME, teaching for doctrines the COMMANDMENTS OF MEN. (Matthew15:9)(KJV) See also Mark 7:7

Christian go to the FATHER, through JESUS by the SPIRIT. i just realized, how similar it is to SHIA go to Allah, through Ali/Hussein by the Ayatollah

@aymeneaymene111

4 жыл бұрын

hhhh , yes it's similar , from Algeria

55:17 he really said that ?! xD Sabr ya Rabb

Revelation! Evidence,ingredient,faith of perspective,community of faith,grounded,by faith,Deity(to whom you believe) and (in what you believe)thinking,heart,lives,work ,sing preach! -what to learn what you believed -the instrument of faith -declaration of faith -it is the power of God

Who won? Shabir almost always wins

1:34:40 🥰

Allaahumma baarik 🤲💖

God is the greatest!

Do fairies like glitter or tinsel the best?

Notice that shabir switches the debate topic as to whether jesus is the son of God "in the ontological sense". That means shabir knows that jesus is "the son of God" in other senses that cannot be disputed. So shabir conceded the debate, that jesus is a "son of God". Bravo.

Douglas Jacoby said at 19:56 that the Muslims holds the belief that the core message of the Gospel is corrupted but I want an evidence in summary. There are numerous verses of the Qur’an that speak of the corruption of the scriptures of the Jews and Christians, here is one example: So woe to those who write the “scripture” with their own hands, then say, “This is from Allah,” in order to exchange it for a small price. Woe to them for what their hands have written and woe to them for what they earn. [2:79] Ibn Abbas, a companion who learnt the Qur’an directly from the Prophet Muhammad ﷺ, explained this verse as follows: (Therefore woe) severe punishment, and it is said this means: a valley in Hell (be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands) change the description and traits of Muhammad ﷺ in the Book (and then say, “This is) in the Book that has come (from Allah”, that they may purchase) through changing and altering it (a small gain therewith) a small gain in terms of means of subsistence and surplus of property. (Woe unto them) theirs is a severe punishment (for what their hands have written) have altered (and woe unto them) and theirs is a severe punishment (for what they earn thereby) of unlawful earnings and bribes. -Ibn Abbas, Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn Abbâs, Commentary on Surah 2:79 Here Ibn Abbas is saying that the traits and descriptions of Prophet Muhammad ﷺ were changed in the Book. In the following narration, Ibn Abbas is even more explicit about the corruption of the Jewish and Christian scriptures: Ibn Abbas said, “How can you ask the people of the Scriptures about their Books while you have Allah’s Book (the Qur’an) which is the most recent of the Books revealed by Allah, and you read it in its pure undistorted form?” [Sahih Bukhari, Hadith 7363] This is a position that is supported by the Biblical textual criticism of mainstream Jewish and Christian scholarship. The Qur’an provides a metric, a measure, by which we can determine the origins of a scripture: Then do they not reflect upon the Qur’an? If it had been from [any] other than Allah, they would have found within it much contradiction [4:82] Here the Qur’an tells us that if it contained internal inconsistency, then it cannot be from Allah. The point is that contradiction is a product of human infallibility, and obviously not what we would expect of the All-Wise and All-Knowing Creator. The Bible is not only internally contradictory, but it also contradicts the Qur’an on fundamental issues of Islamic creed. By this Qur’anic standard then, the Bible has, at least for those parts that are contradictory, been tampered with by man. In summary, to claim that Islam endorses the Bible of today as a 100% divinely revealed text is completely incorrect.

Jesus Christ never claimed divinity by himself

Both

Christians like to vary the contents of the bible according to the desires of their followers. That was the way they gain followers all over the world... They do not fear sin, just believe in Jesus, then they're guaranteed heaven and eternal life. Sins? No worries as they shall be paid to the churches for forgiveness and repent. Such a lawlessness peoples.

Talk to christians find out what ... it reminded me of a colleague of mine she said her mother would cry and tell her just believe in the trinity and get salvation please and she would say no it makes no sense she isn't muslim but she said all my life I felt cheated I couldn't fathom christianity at all and the funny part is the mom would just beg her in tears please accept Christ as your saviour

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I hope they finally got those poor souls into the lecture hall.

Loooooolllll 46:00 shabir told him the Bible is changed and suddenly the pastor is stunned and starts to ask himself do we have time for these questions 😂😂😂😂😂I cnt breath wasnt he the one asking shabir at first 😂😂😂😂!!!

@-abdulbari2904

5 жыл бұрын

@@choward5430 looooooolll plzzzzzz shooowww meeee do the honours sir 😂😂😂😂this is the quran not yur bible looll am waiting 😂😂😂

@zafster22

5 жыл бұрын

C Howard Lol - you silly Christians have been desperately trying to find a ‘comma johanneum’ in our Quran for 1400 years without success - achieving nothing but fatigue.

Douglas didn’t answer any questions with answers like all the other Christian scholars. Instead he telling stories from here and there and from his mind.

Doug was so confused in the very first question.

god revealed his word through Gabriel the holly spirit

So be4 Jesus became a man was he still a Son of God ?if the answer is yes ,in what form was he?

Notice shabir says jesus never said "i am the son of God ETERNALLY". Shabir has to add "eternally" because he knows that jesus did indeed say "i am the son of God". Shabir is committing the fallacy of moving the goal posts.

Jesus is obviously the ONLY Way, the truth and the life. No on can know God except by Him. Most people are ever learning but never coming to the knowledge of the truth. Jesus is the everlasting Father and The Mighty God. isaiah 9:6. Forgive them for they know not what they say. Jesus minister to this man and that they may believe u called people who are on their way to Damascus. I love and believe in u Jesus. Amen

Respectfully: Shabir stated that in the book of Mark, Jesus only appears as slightly greater than a man. Is someone who can command the sea and wind to calm down and have them obey him someone who is only slightly greater than a man? The disciples asked, “Who is this that even the seas and winds obey him?” Also, is someone who can forgive sins only slightly greater than a man?

@chadgarber

5 жыл бұрын

Omerعمر Tتكين Thank you so much for replying to my comment. Here is something to consider. Understanding the relationship between the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit is incredibly complex (I don’t claim to completely understand it).The reality of the situation is that it shouldn’t be surprising that we little people with little brains (in comparison to God) would have trouble trying to understand God. Imagine an ant trying to understand a human. But, that complexity should not make us ignore the Word of God that is revealed to us. I think you would agree with that. In other words, just because we don’t understand everything God understands , should not make us ignore or pick and choose what He tells us. If we use this approach and look at all the scriptures and the evidence, these all point to Jesus being the divine Son of God. Continued in next comment...

@chadgarber

5 жыл бұрын

Omerعمر Tتكين So if we our aside our possible objections about the “trinity”, then I believe we will be able to see the scriptures more clearly. Right now, since Shabir has stated that Mark doesn’t show that Jesus is the Son of God, I am reading through the book of Mark with this in mind. Now, as far as prophets being able to do miracles as well, there is a major difference between the prophets doing this and Jesus commanding the waves and seas to stop and the waves and seas obeying Him. Do you know the difference I am referring to? It is that Jesus Himself commands the seas and wind led to obey Him, and they obey Him. The prophets didn’t do such things. They implored God to do the commanding! See the difference! Continued..

@chadgarber

5 жыл бұрын

Omerعمر Tتكين For instance, Elijah “made it” not rain for a period of time and then “made it” rain again. How did he do this? He asked God and God commanded it. And all of the other prophets had God do the commanding while they requested or initiated God”s commanding. This was not the case with Jesus in the book of Mark regarding many things, including stilling the sea and wind. He directly commanded them and they obeyed him. Here is what I studied this morning on this topic: Mark - Jesus the Son of God - Part 6 “They came to the other side of the sea, into the country of the Gerasenes. When He got out of the boat, immediately a man from the tombs with an unclean spirit met Him, and he had his dwelling among the tombs. And no one was able to bind him anymore, even with a chain; because he had often been bound with shackles and chains, and the chains had been torn apart by him and the shackles broken in pieces, and no one was strong enough to subdue him. Constantly, night and day, he was screaming among the tombs and in the mountains, and gashing himself with stones.” ‭‭Mark‬ ‭5:1-5‬ ‭NASB‬‬‬‬‬‬ bible.com/100/mrk.5.1-5.nasb “Seeing Jesus from a distance, he ran up and bowed down before Him; and shouting with a loud voice, he said, "What business do we have with each other, Jesus, Son of the Most High God? I implore You by God, do not torment me!" For He had been saying to him, "Come out of the man, you unclean spirit!" And He was asking him, "What is your name?" And he said to Him, "My name is Legion; for we are many." And he began to implore Him earnestly not to send them out of the country. Now there was a large herd of swine feeding nearby on the mountain. The demons implored Him, saying, "Send us into the swine so that we may enter them." Jesus gave them permission. And coming out, the unclean spirits entered the swine; and the herd rushed down the steep bank into the sea, about two thousand of them; and they were drowned in the sea. Their herdsmen ran away and reported it in the city and in the country. And the people came to see what it was that had happened. They came to Jesus and observed the man who had been demon-possessed sitting down, clothed and in his right mind, the very man who had had the "legion"; and they became frightened. Those who had seen it described to them how it had happened to the demon-possessed man, and all about the swine. And they began to implore Him to leave their region. As He was getting into the boat, the man who had been demon-possessed was imploring Him that he might accompany Him. And He did not let him, but He said to him, "Go home to your people and report to them what great things the Lord has done for you, and how He had mercy on you." And he went away and began to proclaim in Decapolis what great things Jesus had done for him; and everyone was amazed.” ‭‭Mark‬ ‭5:6-20‬ ‭NASB‬‬ bible.com/100/mrk.5.6-20.nasb • The more I read through the book of Mark with the lens of trying to determine if the book of Mark claims that Jesus was the Son of God, the more and more it seems as though that is exactly what Mark was claiming but he did so with evidence rather than just coming out and saying it (for the most part). This seems like a strategy and a certain genre of story telling instead of it meaning that Mark was not claiming Jesus was the Son of God. The last chapter ends with: “They became very much afraid and said to one another, "Who then is this, that even the wind and the sea obey Him?"”, Mark‬ ‭4:41‬ ‭NASB‬‬, bible.com/100/mrk.4.41.nasb In fact, the question, “Who is this that even the [blank] obey(s) him” seems like the theme question of the entire book of Mark. • In this chapter, Jesus commands demons to come out of a man and these demons ask Jesus’ permission to go into the swine. While doing this, they refer to Jesus as the Son of the Most High. So we can ask, who is this, that even the demons obey Him? Critics have argued that the testimony of demons can’t be trusted but in context, Mark simply records the interaction and conversations that occurred between Jesus and these demons. It is very clear that these demons had to obey Jesus so why would they try to lie to Jesus by calling Jesus, “The Son of the Most High God”. That would not have helped their request: “The demons implored Him, saying, "Send us into the swine so that we may enter them." Jesus gave them permission.” And again, “Who is this, that even the demons submit to him? • We have to determine why Mark included that the demons claimed that Jesus was the Son of the Most High. Was it because he was trying to show demons were deceitful? In context, and while looking at the entire book of Mark, does this really seem like this is what Mark was getting at? It looks to me that he was showing that Jesus had permission even over the demons and that they knew he was the Son of the Most High because they already knew who he was or because in the spiritual realm the fact that Jesus is the Son of God was clear!

@chadgarber

5 жыл бұрын

Omerعمر Tتكين Thank you for reading my comments and thanks for allowing me to participate with your KZread channel. Peace.

@maxwellkelly4667

5 жыл бұрын

Moses split the sea, and made water spring from a rock, and turned a staff into a snake. Does that mean Moses was divine!

Shabir ally ❤

As a Christian, who actually is open to finding truth, I find Douglas Jacoby's abilities lacking a bit, but does as best he can. 58:00, Jacoby basically uses an infantile defense equivalent to "YOU DO TOO!" The concept of the Trinity is conceptually difficult to convey to most people, and he should have worked out an explanation BY NOW. Not say, "I don't it's so confusing." 59:37

@KingdomOfHeavenPictures

5 жыл бұрын

It's also strange to me to even debate, instead of comparing notes on worship. Does anyone in the audience (or on stage) actually think they may convert another into their belief?

@KingdomOfHeavenPictures

5 жыл бұрын

1:12:50, "they all abandon they're knowledge...even as human beings." God is GOD. Reasoning out what God is capable of IS blasphemous. God created this entire existence and dimension. God wished to experience life as a human, he sent a representative that would live as a human, so God would experience the hardship personally through Jesus. In the Koran (sp?), Harut and Marut are challenged by God, and tells them basically, "you think it's so easy? Go do it and show me." (this is obviously paraphrased)...and they fail. Jesus may be the summation of this occurence and finally doing what he pointed Harut and Marut to try (and ultimately failed). As a Dad, if my son asked me to show him how to do something with grace and control, I would show him. It's not any different...it just took a while. Also, if I'm programming for a game, and there's a bug in the game, I go play that level to see what the bug is that the player experiences. I would think God has WAAAAY more effective ways of doing this...HOWEVER God wants to do it.

How can Mohamed tell us about Jesus if he came after 635 years, and people are depending on this information to be true. He does not even know what his own Allah will do with him or even with his followers. Surah 46:9

Might Allahh (God) guide all of my Christians brothers and sisters in humanity because blasphemy is NOT something small rather it’s is the biggest sin or swear against Allahh (God) 😢may Allahh guide them we can not force them 😢

So sad to see Christians making a simple concept so complicated.

Shabir admits that jesus could be "son of God by adoption". Therefore shabir concedes the debate, because the debate is whether jesus is "son of God", not whether he became the son of God through adoption or by any other means. Is jesus "the son of God"? YES. Debate over!

One thing Dr Douglas got wrong on here was the Bible IS CHANGED. A perfect example is John 3:16 which used to say "God so loved the world that He gave His only BEGOTTEN SON........." But n updated Biblical scripts, due to Christians truly learning what BEGOTTEN means, they have CHANGED IT TO "God so loved the world that He gave His only BELOVED SON........" So this shows one of the MANY CHANGES WITHIN THE BIBLE over time.

@a27826

5 жыл бұрын

Shred: if such change is true, then its the change in the translations and not in the original. Similar changes in translations happens in the Quran also.

@Sheed-vx7wm

5 жыл бұрын

@@a27826 I agree there r different TRANSLATIONS. But the translations of the Qur'an r all SYNONYMOUS WITH EACH OTHER. The word BEGOTTEN and BELOVED do not have synonymous definitions. This shows Christians have discovered what BEGOTTEN truly means and REPLACED it with BELOVED, which also proves John 3:16 is NOT the true word of God

@Sheed-vx7wm

5 жыл бұрын

@City Of Charles Dirt authors of the revised standard version bible comprising of 50 emminent scholars has declared that the word BEGOTTEN in john 3:16 IS A FABRICATION and it is not part of the bible meaning of begotten: (especially of a man) bring (a child) into existence by the process of reproduction. evidence; John 3:16 Revised Standard Version (RSV)

Masha Allah shaber is right only one God Allah but douglas is one God in 3 God problem is to hum we fallow one God or Tre god

What I find is this is a heathier debate you can find, no matter you are a Christian or a Muslim, we have a different option and answer? Muslims can't reject refer those of the book, way before Islam came to be. NO matter how much you take in, education and studies apply too all read all books, than the one.

This has alot of adds it's childish

Biologically or Analogically is up to Christians to first decide who Jesus truly was, and who God really is. Fact is, the word "Son of God" means different things to differents Christians. After failing to defind their terms, there is no need bringing the Quran into the picture. Is the Bible not clear enough about the meaning of the word "Son of God"?

@julio14335

5 жыл бұрын

C Howard: You are qouting John and you are saying Jesus said, almost all Christian Scholars discredited the Gospel of John as non-historical. Try again..

@julio14335

5 жыл бұрын

Lance Gin : will that Argument help Christianity win academic discuss.

@sonofpharaoh9716

5 жыл бұрын

@@choward5430 Muhammad is the final messenger, he was not the first messenger..lol.. God is unlike anything we seen on naked eyes.. Jesus is just a messenger to his people at his period of time.. Roman Empire made appeared Jesus as part of their trinitrian doctrine... flavian.. Go and ask the Jews regarding their concept of God , its opposite compared to christianity.. God in flesh is a Pagan concept of God..The reason Roman Empire hijacked jesus name into their trinitrian doctrine is to convert people into their religion.. they gave automatically citizenship for those who converted to this religion..ciao

@KhalidASelam

5 жыл бұрын

No human should worship a Human, isn't that enough?

John 14:9 "Jesus answered: 'Don't you know me, Philip, even after I have been among you such a long time? Anyone who has seen me has seen the Father. How can you say, 'Show us the Father'?

@acesin-et7pp

Жыл бұрын

Coz any logical person knows no one can see The God. Since Jesus was a prophet and messenger of God like Moses, Abraham, anyone who wishes to understand God should understand the message of messengers, Only illogical person will hold on to ambiguous or metaphor verses and ignore the clear verses.

One simple question to islam scholars and followers! By converting church"origin" to mosque,do you thing it is not consider corrupted origin or wrongdoers? Surely it consider corrupted "origin" and not permissible by God!!!

@KhalidASelam

5 жыл бұрын

You ok Mr?

God is beyond humanity. We can’t limit God to our human mind . Simple concept : H2O can be liquid, solid & gas . ( This is just water we are talking abt ) How much more God ?? To each their own faith .

The House of Isaac and the House of Ishmael debating like proper brothers....now let that marinate in your brains for a bit.

Doug argue that jesus was God despite his limitation because God spiirit *in* jesus is never limited and allways almighty.... that does not work because jesus and spirit are always separate entities and neither it makes jesus unique.... everyone then has the same situation that God spirit works *in* them...

Matthew 1 : 1The book of the generation ofJesus [Ἰησοῦ - iēsou] Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham.Matthew 1 : 16And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus,[Ἰησοῦς - iēsous] who is called Christ.Matthew 1 : 18Now the birth of Jesus[Ἰησοῦ - iēsou] Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary was espoused to Joseph, before they came together, she was found with child of the Holy Ghost.

- Muslims believe Jesus PREACHED the Gospel - Christians believe Jesus PARTICIPATED in the Gospel - Muslims believe the Gospel were a set of teachings which were TAUGHT by Jesus - Christians believe the Gospel is a story, a narrative - things that HAPPENED to Jesus - Muslims believe that GOD revealed the gospel to Jesus during his ministry and Jesus taught it during his ministry - Christians believe that JESUS revealed the gospel to Paul AFTER his ministry and Paul taught it (Galatians 1:11-12) The New Testament today contains elements of both the Muslim view of the gospel (sayings and teachings of Jesus) and the Christian view of the gospel (sayings and teachings of Paul which nullify and contradict practically everything Jesus said and taught)