Is Jesus a Prophet of Islam? Dr. Shabir Ally vs. David Wood

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Dr. Shabir Ally is president of the Islamic Information & Dawah Centre International in Toronto, Canada. He is a Muslim activist, academic, scholar and public speaker on Islam and comparative religion. He is viewed as the leading Muslim debater in the world on Islam and Christianity, having engaged in public debates around the world with noted theologians, Christian apologists and renowned philosophers. Dr. Shabir Ally holds an M.A. and PhD in Islamic studies from the University of Toronto, and a BA in religious studies from Laurentian University with a specialization in Biblical Literature. He is the author of numerous booklets on Islam and Christianity.
David Wood is a member of the Society of Christian Philosophers, the Evangelical Philosophical Society, and the Hume Society. A former atheist, David became a Christian after examining the historical evidence for the resurrection of Jesus. He is a contributor to the books Evidence for God: 50 Arguments for Faith from the Bible, History, Philosophy, and Science; Defending the Resurrection; and True Reason: Christian Responses to the Challenge of Atheism. David has a PhD in Philosophy from Fordham University and has been in more than 40 moderated public debates with Muslims, atheists, and other Christians. He lives in the Bronx with his wife Marie and his four sons, Lucian, Blaise, Reid, and Paley.

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  • @Broeske3
    @Broeske38 жыл бұрын

    Dr. Shabir Ally is really an inspiration. A great example of a scholar who is knowledgeable and polite. Even when they are being very disrespectful and childish in their wording. I pray to Allah to give him good health and continue to inspire us in this difficult times for Muslims. Jazaak Allah khair :)

  • @hilmyahmed6446

    @hilmyahmed6446

    3 жыл бұрын

    True. Amen.

  • @hameedkatoor7469

    @hameedkatoor7469

    Жыл бұрын

    Ameen

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    David is attacking the Quran more than he is defending his belief !!!

  • @MrAnthony551

    @MrAnthony551

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Al Ali Ii believe you have it opposite. David is defending the attacks brought about by Shabir when he passive-aggressively says that Jesus never claimed to be God, and He did not die. David attacks that then brings light, or attacks, the Qur'an on its inaccuracies and the deception of Allah.

  • @Logia1978

    @Logia1978

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Anthony Rodrigues Where is the deception when in your own bible you have no idea on when he died on the cross....each gospel writer gives a contradictory time frame... And this is the base of your salvation.... inaccuracies? deception? Wake up...that's exactly what you BELIEVE in.... David Wook knowing these, and knowing that he could never answer try diversion with the quran...

  • @MrAnthony551

    @MrAnthony551

    8 жыл бұрын

    Show me where these deceptions are. I have read my Bible, cover to cover, many times, and one thing about the Gospels is clear: A) They are individual eye-witness accounts that resoundly say the same thing: that Jesus testified that He was the Son of God, that He would be handed over for death, that in three days He would be dead and would rise again, and that in doing so, He brings eternal life. The problem is not in my Bible, but in your Qur'an that makes light that Jesus was born of a virgin, that He did great miracles, that God was with Him...but He did not die. Every single thing lines up, but like any false prophet, the Devil uses this one to try and disprove what non-Christian, Christian, Jewish, Roman, and Muslim historians have already agreed on.

  • @Logia1978

    @Logia1978

    8 жыл бұрын

    Anthony Rodrigues I think I was fair and asked you 1 simple question.... When did Jesus die on the cross? If I say those twin towers in New York have not been attacked on the 11 September but 12 September... am I an eyewitness ? Are you going to take what I say seriously ? that's exactly what happened for your so called crucifixion because your so called eye witness don't remember the exact day and contradicts each others on something that your salvation is depend on... Now that you insist.... who were those so called eyewitness ? Let me show you who are those eye witness according to the most earliest gospel... the gospel of Mark: Gospel of Mark: 14:49 Every day I was with you, teaching in the temple courts, and you did not arrest me. But the Scriptures must be fulfilled." 14:50 Then everyone deserted him and fled. 14:51 A young man, wearing nothing but a linen garment, was following Jesus. When they seized him. where are those eyewitness according to Mark ? They ALL DESERTED HIM AND FLED... No Eyewitness at all.... Dont talk for historians when you are talking about your Blind faith... No historian ever said that Jesus rose up from the death....

  • @MrAnthony551

    @MrAnthony551

    8 жыл бұрын

    First you misquoted Mark: Jesus said "This has to have happened for the Scripture to be fulfilled. All of the eyewitnesses are in the Gospels: the disciples, the families, the people, they eye-witnesses I refer to are the authors of theses first four Gospels. The exact day does not matter nor does the exact time. But the day would be during Passover, and since I am not a Jew, I do not know how long Passover goes on, nor do I care. The time was 4 B.C. Personally, I don't care what you believe, it does not mean that an event did not happen.

  • @jsell430
    @jsell4303 жыл бұрын

    ~~ As a Christian I can absolutely say I love Dr. Shabir Ally (even though he's certainly wrong & Jesus Christ is Lord for certain).

  • @missyuna06
    @missyuna068 жыл бұрын

    well done Dr Shabir Ally!

  • @SFY1111

    @SFY1111

    6 жыл бұрын

    missyuna06 kzread.info/dash/bejne/faxtr9KwdLyeYrg.html

  • @TheTerrorist98
    @TheTerrorist988 жыл бұрын

    shabir ally wins !!

  • @etaiinn1071

    @etaiinn1071

    Жыл бұрын

    no.

  • @hameedkatoor7469

    @hameedkatoor7469

    Жыл бұрын

    @@etaiinn1071 yes shabir Ally wins

  • @AllaahuAkbar60
    @AllaahuAkbar607 жыл бұрын

    Shabbir Ally practically destroyed all the Christian apologists 😄 😄

  • @j400wel
    @j400wel8 жыл бұрын

    Sam shamoun still doesn't know what his talking about and some of those callers were not who they say they are. You can tell Shabir Ally knew it was a set up.

  • @Tuga777

    @Tuga777

    8 жыл бұрын

    Yes and it's really disgusting, Sam and David are 2 off the same kind lairs even with clear truth in there hand.

  • @iwantyou9944

    @iwantyou9944

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Tuga777 you remind me when Allah say to Muhammad peace be upon him ((don't be sad of what they saying on to you , they know the truth but they are arrogant )) . subhan allah i just red the verse today :)

  • @817Chop

    @817Chop

    8 жыл бұрын

    rewatch the debate over and look up everything david wood say and see if its really a lie. dont just call someone a lier without researching to see if what their is saying is true.

  • @817Chop

    @817Chop

    8 жыл бұрын

    rewatch the debate over and look up everything david wood say and see if its really a lie. dont just call someone a lier without researching to see if what their is saying is true.

  • @D7omy911

    @D7omy911

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Jeremiah Ford he really did lie or he's ignorant Especially the Quran judges by the bible Lie even though it has been refuted countless times before

  • @mtowaqas
    @mtowaqas6 жыл бұрын

    best thing about this debate is that both scholars are very humble and they explained the concepts precisely. It will help both christians and muslims to go in best direction of peace.

  • @promiscuittea

    @promiscuittea

    3 жыл бұрын

    yes I agree :)

  • @j400wel
    @j400wel8 жыл бұрын

    Went and checked all of the channels that David Woods and his chums upload on and they haven't got these debates on yet no doubt they will edit it in David's favour before they upload

  • @chrisramirez6449

    @chrisramirez6449

    8 жыл бұрын

    It's in David Woods' favor anyway, he made your leading spokesman for a barbaric and satanic religion look like a fool! If you can't see that you need Jesus. Jesus heals the blind. Satan blinds the minds of those who don't believe they are unable to see the glorious light of the Gospel. They don't understand this message about the glory of Christ, who is the exact likeness of God. 2 Corinthians 4:4

  • @missmatimba9706

    @missmatimba9706

    6 жыл бұрын

    j400wel checked some; they are putting only him speaking and they say David destroyed Shabir and Shabir never speaks 😂😂😂😂

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    God had to wait 4000 years to tell people he had a son !!!

  • @D7omy911

    @D7omy911

    8 жыл бұрын

    No he had to wait more Adam was probably 600 thousand years awY

  • @salamdoost7477

    @salamdoost7477

    8 жыл бұрын

    +The one lol

  • @Logia1978

    @Logia1978

    8 жыл бұрын

    +The one how many gods you have then ? at least 2 already... god the son and god the father....

  • @Logia1978

    @Logia1978

    8 жыл бұрын

    +The one how many gods you have then ? at least 2 already... god the son and god the father....

  • @D7omy911

    @D7omy911

    8 жыл бұрын

    +StealthFlexer how do you know it's jesus

  • @AllaahuAkbar60
    @AllaahuAkbar606 жыл бұрын

    Fajr prayer on time is equal to success all the time, All the five daily prayers are equally important..Recite Ayat Al Kursi after every Salat so that Allah will protect you always...

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    The word " new testament " is not to be found in the bible . The word Bible is not in the bible . The word" Christian was never mentioned by Jesus .

  • @glorytojesuschristt

    @glorytojesuschristt

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Al Ali what abt Acts 26:28, Acts 11:26, 1 peter 4:16

  • @D7omy911

    @D7omy911

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Glory To Christ acts was by Paul and Peter was forgery

  • @glorytojesuschristt

    @glorytojesuschristt

    8 жыл бұрын

    if u read the history of paul and peter and compare with mohhamad u can understand who did forgery... Paul and peter died for their faith, what did mohhamad did for allah??? Allah gave everything as by mohhaamds wish, with allahs help he married daugter in law, kid aisha etc, what did he did for allah???

  • @glorytojesuschristt

    @glorytojesuschristt

    8 жыл бұрын

    if u can belive this man, why cant we belive such a man who gave his life for his faith??? Jesus death, birth, etc are already prrophesised in jewish scripture before he came to earth... mohhamad teaching contradicts with that

  • @mvk-delta5423

    @mvk-delta5423

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Al Ali the word god is not in the quran as a good thing infact allah denys that there is a god with shahada so who is allah then? to me this sounds like no god but satan im just being honest brother sorry if it offends but lets be honest now when theres a religion and you must say the meaning of shahada to convert and the meaning of it is denying god thats a little odd. now the word christian comes from the word christ pretty obvious isnt it? now old testament just simply is saying B.C (before christ) and new testament is AD (year of our lord) which makes sense because even history goes along with our bible. quit trying to find little pathetic excuses. like seriously who the hell says the word old testament isnt in the bible so it must be false are you forreal ? LOL! now you said the word bible is not found in the bible. thats like me reading a book and its not a book unless while reading the book you see the word book in it. now you said jesus never said the word christians. we have been christians before jesus even came down and we were told in old testament someone will be our hero and die for us and the person who comes down just so happens to be part of the name christian with the word christ in it. i beleive allah is the devil tricking the arabs im not trying to be rude im just saying what i beleive. seriously if you beleive allah went to the jews and tricked them by thinking they killed the real jesus how do you know allah was like ill jus send muhammad and trick these arabs? wheres the trust in allah? even jesus mother cam to beleive jesus died and allah even tricked them. how do u know if allah didnt make someone look like muhammad? what if theres still a coming prophet that will come from allah and say that allah just made someone look like muhammad and real muhammad never preached islam? u cant say he wont wen he already did it before. satan denied jesus being son of god and mocked jesus in matthew 4: 5-7 jesus tells us. now allah mocks jesus of being son of god.. even more obvious jesus warns us of false prophets who will change the story, 1 corithians 10:20 tells us that idols are being worshipped and its of the devil and its not god. allah has 99 names and all names from 1-99 are no name names that satan jus grabbed and pulled for himself notice that allah never reveals his real name anywhere in the quran. our bible does his name is yahweh i am 100% sure allah is not god if i knew you in real life i would even make a bet that he is satan messing with you guys. god sent down his only begoten son to take our sins so we can be seen sinless in gods eyes what dont you guys understand? to say that all of this has been a scam is just redicouls he came down he was born off virgin go back in history and it proves jesus died, satan does not want you to be sinless in gods eyes so he is going to make up a lie and try to keep you away from god. btw if allah tricked the jews even jesus followers into thinking jesus died how do you know allah isnt tricking you into going to hell? think about this and let it sink in. people all around the world asia,africa,middle east, north america,hindu have all said when they have been in near death experience or have even died and came back to life have all said they encountered jesus to say that everyone of them is lying is crazy. you dont hear of people saying they encountered allah or heard his voice atleast or nothing. but you hear people all over saying they met jesus in dreams, they heard his voice and so on.. another statement. since allah started christianity with jesus shouldnt allah completely stop christianity then? what allah starts should be finished. now other religions out there are obviously not from god and from satan or man made but allah started christianity so he should end it. another point shouldnt allah apologise to jesus for letting his message get corrupted? how about to christians ? he should apologise for not even letting us know until 600yrs and billions have bean deceived till thisday. how bout the guy allah made look like jesus? imagine allah made you look like jesus and it was you who went through all that nails in your hand, foot, got stabbed, spit on etc.. and it was nothing but a corruption and making it seem as if its to sweep away our sins and at the same time is breaking any peoples hearts like ,jesus followers, mother of jesus all thinking he died and allah didnt care 1 bit and just let the lie last. how mad would you be if allah made you go through all that on the cross which upsets everyone and you were on the cross for no reason at all just because allah decide to make a joke of you to look like jesus and died for jesus so he can rescue jesus. if allah wanted he could of rescued jesus , make no one look like jesus to die and tell his followers jesus was rescued and ur telling me allah failed to simply do that little thing? why is it that some HAD TO DIE why couldnt it just been a peace thing if jesus gets rescued? what good is allah making others die for others. hes satan and its super obvious jesus told us false prophets will rise. in 1990 islam only had 500thousand followers now in 2015 1.6 billion almost catching up to christianity. in 1990 there was 200mil people on earth and 156mil of the earth was christianity while islam was not even 1% of chistianity now they come out of no where and grow rapidy jus like how jesus said false prophets will take over

  • @AllaahuAkbar60
    @AllaahuAkbar606 жыл бұрын

    Dr Shabbir Ally practically destroyed that liar David Wood in all the debates Alhamdulila......

  • @missmatimba9706
    @missmatimba97066 жыл бұрын

    Allah SWT says "And the servants of the Most Merciful are those who walk upon the earth easily, and when the ignorant address them [harshly], they say [words of] peace," (QS. Al-Furqaan 25: Verse 63)

  • @talalmohiuddin269
    @talalmohiuddin2696 жыл бұрын

    Why the debate in which shabeer defeated David wood are missing from the channel"act17apologist"

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    Contradiction : Jesus and the Centurion: Romans supposedly witnessed Jesus’ crucifixion, but what did they think? Mark 15:39 - A centurion is cited as saying: “Truly this man was the son of God!” Matthew 27:54 - A centurion is cited as saying: “Truly this was the son of God.” Luke 23:47 - A centurion is cited as saying: “Truly this man was innocent.” John - No centurions say anything

  • @jesusisgod3318

    @jesusisgod3318

    5 жыл бұрын

    Al Ali jon was not present there to be withnes ....

  • @ollybolly2881

    @ollybolly2881

    2 жыл бұрын

    No it's that Luke 23:47 says that the centurion in a righteous man and in Matthew 27:54 and Mark 15:39 that Jesus was the son of God and John doesn't mention anything clearly because the writer or the eyewitnesses who helped the writer write this didn't notice this, it could certainly be that the centurion said that Jesus was a righteous man and the son of God none of the gospels say that the centurion only said what they wrote.

  • @AllaahuAkbar60
    @AllaahuAkbar606 жыл бұрын

    Shaik Ahmed Deedat beautifully explains that Prophet Jesus PBUH was not crucified....

  • @ReviewITro
    @ReviewITro8 жыл бұрын

    David just the best! God Bless You! And God bless all muslims!!

  • @squadaimat2923
    @squadaimat29236 жыл бұрын

    jesus said GOD IS ONE , WHICH PART OF ONE DAVID does not understand .

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    Jeremiah 8:8 "How can you say, 'We are wise, And the law of the LORD is with us'? But behold, the lying pen of the scribes Has made it into a lie."

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    Contradiction: Women Watch the Curcifixion: The gospels describe several woman as having followed Jesus around, but what did they do when Jesus was crucified? Mark 15:40, Matthew 27:55, Luke 23:49 - Several women watch Jesus from afar John 19:25-26 - Several woman are close enough that Jesus could talk to his mother, contrary to Roman practices

  • @sz5811
    @sz58114 жыл бұрын

    The funny thing is that David didn’t put the full part in his channel lol. He just put the arguments that he thinks he won😂

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    Contradiction : Jesus carried his own cross. And he bearing his cross went forth into a place called the place of a skull. John 19:17 Simon the Cyrenian carried Jesus's cross. And as they came out, they found a man of Cyrene, Simon by name: him they compelled to bear his cross. Matthew 27:32 And they compel one Simon a Cyrenian, who passed by, coming out of the country, the father of Alexander and Rufus, to bear his cross. Mark 15:21 And as they led him away, they laid hold upon one Simon, a Cyrenian, coming out of the country, and on him they laid the cross, that he might bear it after Jesus. Luke 23:26

  • @gabeerkabeer4966

    @gabeerkabeer4966

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Al Ali After being ruthlessly tortured by the Romans, Jesus was forced to carry His cross to the place where He would be crucified. At first, Jesus carried His own cross (John 19:17). But, eventually, likely due to the extreme torture He had already endured, Jesus was no longer able to carry His cross. As a result, the Roman soldiers forced another man to help Jesus carry the cross. Matthew, Mark, and Luke all identify the man who helped Jesus carry the cross as Simon. No contradiction here; Jesus carried the cross first, then due to exhaustion, the Romans had another man to help carry the cross for Jesus (in this case Simon). I must also add you forgot to read Luke 23:26 properly, it says at the end: *" that he might bear it after Jesus."* Hence, you contradicted yourself

  • @markmeyer1076
    @markmeyer10767 жыл бұрын

    I do not want to accuse Shabir as being a liar, but i will say he is misguided and incorrect. Again. In a previous debate he confused the Scripture of Malachi 3:6 as being Malachi 3:12. I also have witnessed that one of his favorite tools of debate is subtly degrade, insult and diminish his opponent. A childish means to an embarrassing end. David Wood is without a doubt one of the most modest, polite and exact debaters i have witness. A true man of God and a gentleman.

  • @danishmaulavi5939
    @danishmaulavi59398 жыл бұрын

    Brother Wael Ibrahim asked an awesome question whose wife is an Catholic revert mashaALlah

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    Contradiction : Jesus’ Last Words: Jesus’ last words before dying are important, but no one seems to have written then down. Mark 15:34-37, Matthew 27:46-50 - Jesus says: “My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?” (but they use different Greek words for “God” - Matthew uses “Eli” and Mark uses “Eloi”) Luke 23:46 - Jesus says: “Father, into thy hands I commit my spirit.” John 19:30 - Jesus says: “It is finished.”

  • @Del-Canada
    @Del-Canada8 жыл бұрын

    When was this debate recorded?

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    Contradiction: Earthquake After the Resurrection: Was there an earthquake when Jesus died? Matthew 27:51-53 - At the moment Jesus dies, a massive earth quake strikes and opens tombs where dead people rise again Mark, Luke, John - No earthquake is mentioned. No earthquake and no massive influx of formerly dead people is mentioned in any historical records, which is strange given how monumental such an event would be.

  • @InayetHadi
    @InayetHadi8 жыл бұрын

    When was this debate recorded and where? It seems there was a previous question before this video aired...where is the previous videos?

  • @j400wel

    @j400wel

    8 жыл бұрын

    Go to muslimbychoices Chanel

  • @shahabdurrasheed762
    @shahabdurrasheed7628 жыл бұрын

    shabir came back strong in the end.

  • @titaniumsteel9114
    @titaniumsteel91146 жыл бұрын

    "Who is Jesus? In chemistry, He turned water to wine. John 2:6-10 John 4:46 In biology, He was born without the normal conception; Isaiah 7:14 Luke 1:26- 37 In physics, He disapproved the law of gravity when He ascended into heaven; Mark 16:19 In economics, He disapproved the law of diminishing return by feeding 5000 men with two fishes & 5 loaves of bread; Matthew 14:19 John 6:13 In medicine, He cured the sick and the blind without administering a single dose of drugs; Matthew 15:30 Mark 1:34 In history, He is the beginning and the end; John 1:1-5 Revelation 22:13 Revelation 21:6 In government, He said that He shall be called Wonderful Counselor, Prince of Peace; Isaiah 9:6-7 In religion, He said no one comes to the Father except through Him; John 14:4-6 So, Who is He? He is Jesus! The Greatest Man in History Jesus had no servants, yet they called Him Master. Had no degree, yet they called Him Teacher. Had no medicines, yet they called Him Healer. He had no army, yet kings feared Him. He won no military battles yet He conquered the world. He committed no crime yet they crucified Him. He was buried in a tomb yet He lives today. I feel honoured to serve such a Leader who loves us. Amen

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    Contradiction: When Was Jesus Crucified?: The crucifixion of Jesus is the central event of the Passion narrative, but the narratives don’t agree on when the crucifixion occurred. Mark 15:25 - Jesus was crucified on the “third hour.” John 19:14-15 - Jesus was crucified on the “sixth hour.” Matthew, Luke - It’s not stated when the crucifixion starts, but the “sixth hour” occurs during the curcifixion

  • @jessesepulveda5792

    @jessesepulveda5792

    3 жыл бұрын

    Ppl were saying to crying out to crucify him

  • @jessesepulveda5792

    @jessesepulveda5792

    3 жыл бұрын

    When u quoted john

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    contradiction : Jesus and the Thieves: Some gospels say Jesus was crucified with two thieves, though the Romans never crucified thieves. Mark - The two thieves are mentioned, but there is no conversation Matthew 27:44 - The two thieves taunt Jesus Luke 23:39-42 - One thief taunts Jesus and is criticized by the other. Jesus promises the 2nd thief that they would be in Paradise that day, though John and Acts say he did not ascend to heaven until 40 days after his resurrection John - The two men aren’t described as thieves

  • @user-nj9fy4sh2f
    @user-nj9fy4sh2f8 жыл бұрын

    Jesus (pbuh) of Nazareth - a Man Approved of God The following statement from the Bible supports the Islamic belief that Jesus (pbuh) was a prophet of God. "Ye men of Israel, hear these words; Jesus of Nazareth, a man approved of God among you by miracles and wonders and signs, which God did by him in the midst of you, as ye yourselves also know." [The Bible, Acts 2:22]

  • @omoolag6594

    @omoolag6594

    8 жыл бұрын

    you have problems with that, Jesus is 100% man 100% man okay

  • @omoolag6594

    @omoolag6594

    8 жыл бұрын

    Jesus is 100% God and 100% man okay

  • @missmatimba9706
    @missmatimba97066 жыл бұрын

    I almost fell for Dr David until when he said, " When God became a human being," God is not a human beibg according to numbers and God does not change like shifting shadows according to Romans. Also humans give birth to humans so Mary a human gave birth to a human and not to God.

  • @leomessibeast6312
    @leomessibeast63127 жыл бұрын

    Quran - ultimate authority - highest source

  • @hilmyahmed6446
    @hilmyahmed64463 жыл бұрын

    Thank you Dr Ally.

  • @markmeyer1076
    @markmeyer10767 жыл бұрын

    The prime question of the debate "Is Jesus a Prophet of Islam?" was the wrong question from the beginning. The question is "Is Jesus Prophetic?" Because to call Jesus a Prophet is undermining Jesus from the start. Jesus is Prophetic. He could cure illness, cast out demons, bring sight to the blind and raise the dead. And that's just the beginning. Mohammad though could do none of the above. Is Jesus a Prophet? No, because He is far more than that, infinitely.

  • @xma4470
    @xma44708 жыл бұрын

    Questioners/listerners' technical interruptions sounded intentional when Dr Shabir talks.... LOL ashame

  • @markmeyer1076
    @markmeyer10767 жыл бұрын

    Shabir Ally is very good at demonstrating bias at the Torah and New Testament but does not demonstrate accurate and adequate knowledge. Shabir Ally is yet to demonstrate the open minded trait of a scholar but rather expects David to follow his line of thinking rather than respecting the differences between them.

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    contradiction : Inscription on Jesus’ Cross: When crucified, Jesus’ cross had an inscription - but what did it say? Mark 15:26 - The inscription: “The King of the Jews.” Matthew 27:37 - The inscription: “This is Jesus the King of the Jews.” Luke 23:38 - The inscription: “This is the King of the Jews.” John 19:19 - The inscription: “Jesus of Nazareth, the King of the Jews.”

  • @gabeerkabeer4966

    @gabeerkabeer4966

    8 жыл бұрын

    +Al Ali LOL! How is that a contradiction? In order for them to be contradictory it would have to be a statement of a position *opposite* to one already made. Because we know that Jesus was born in Nazareth, and all four Gospel authors you quoted agree that he is "The King of the Jews". Do you expect all four gospel accounts to be completely identical to one another? Different eyewitnesses, same stories, with minor differences that don't change anything.

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    The gospels differ on the time and day of the cucifiction

  • @paulmc5813
    @paulmc58136 жыл бұрын

    John 4:44 his own homeland: Lit., “his father’s place.” The Greek word rendered “homeland” is translated “home territory” at Mt 13:54; Mr 6:1; and Lu 4:24, where it refers to Jesus’ hometown, Nazareth. In this context, however, it seems to refer to all of Galilee.-Joh 4:43.

  • @MrRaiders209
    @MrRaiders2095 жыл бұрын

    bro. Shabir destroyed Jay Smith in every debate, Nabeel in every debate, David in every debate, James White in every debate, and every other Christian he's debated. Good job brother, keep preaching the truth, the 1st commandment. Alhumdulilah.

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    Contradiction : Does Jesus Drink Wine or Vinegar?: Jesus is given something to drink while he is on the cross, but what? Mark 15:23 - Jesus is given wine mixed with myrrh, but he doesn’t drink Matthew 27:48, Luke 23:36 - Jesus is given vinegar, but he doesn’t drink John 19:29-30 - Jesus is given vinegar and he drinks

  • @j400wel

    @j400wel

    8 жыл бұрын

    You missed the point completely

  • @Farhan_Chohan83

    @Farhan_Chohan83

    8 жыл бұрын

    +TheD†uned You people cannot take it anymore. On one hand you are saying a god became a human to understand humans what an confusing god that he didn't know his creation and how same god looks very dependent in your trinity concept. How this is not limiting concept of Allah. On the other hand the miracle of Quran is right in front of you with all the evidence such it was give to Muhammad (PBUH) even he was unable to read or write. Yet you so lost in ignorance rejecting that Quran is not preserved and how come this and that. Well the truth and fact are right in front of you. The Quran did not change and will not change doesn't matter how you will try to translate it and try to inject stuff that is not in there sorry it's not your Bible or Gospel where you can pick and choose what to choose and what not to. For example the Gospel of Mary Magdelene is not even in your Bible and yet you claim she was the first witness of resurrection in the tomb but her Gospel is not worthy then how her testimony is and who decided that?

  • @Farhan_Chohan83

    @Farhan_Chohan83

    8 жыл бұрын

    +TheD†uned Sure thing tell the same to Allah on the day of Judgement. Some of you who believe Allah has a son will find out near the day of judgement when Isa (AS) will come back as a follower of Islam not even as a prophet to reject Christinaity, break the cross and kill the swine. I have a question when Isa(AS) will come back would he born again or is he just going to appear to us? I end it here that David said that Allah waited 600 years to correct your belief why only Allah knows. But why did same Allah waited thousands of years to introduced a human son who was so weak that Romen&Jews were able to kill him so you are not accountable for your sins. Yes Sir both Torah and Injeel were lost and corrupted proven right in front of your eyes.

  • @Farhan_Chohan83

    @Farhan_Chohan83

    8 жыл бұрын

    +TheD†uned Even then when anyone says that OT and NT contradicts each other then you say the NT canceled it. And you don't want to admit that it clearly imply that Paul cancel Jesus and Moses. With all these clear contradictions you people claims that it's a word of God. You either say that the whole book is word of God and accept the plain contradictions OR the other common sense answer could be that the OT is not the word of the God thus NT is. Just simply saying that OT and NT don't have contradictions then you simply liying to yourself and others and even making fun of you. Just like saying God is one but simple 3 persons. Each person is a god but father is the most powerful but a human and angel are gods as well but all of this is 1 God. Jesus didn't know the knowledge of the hour but somewhere else he is the creator god too. Just try to make sense of this and you end up no where will find yourself lost in the translations.

  • @Farhan_Chohan83

    @Farhan_Chohan83

    8 жыл бұрын

    You accept a Bible with 66 books you would reject one with 72 books? Good to know King James must be another eye witness account just like Paul now that's interesting! You are right men don't have the power to corrupt Allah's scripture that's why they created thousands of version some with 72 books some with 66 then NT and OT then NT cancels the OT. That's why Allah sent Quran to us the FT which is not corrupted which is preserved in Muslim's heart and memory. No human can change it and will not be able to change it. Its up to the individual to accept it or reject.

  • @muhdsyafiq2496
    @muhdsyafiq24968 жыл бұрын

    even if Allah S.W.T decided to correct humanity through sending Muhammad s.a.w (pbuh) after thousand of years has passed, who are we to dictate the will of Allah S.W.T. He is All-knowing and encompasses all knowledge that we cannot even begin to comprehend. "whats the point of standing with the torah and bible if quran is the truth?" whats the point of asking parents to send children to elementary school and high school. they should just register their 5-year old toddlers into Cambridge and Yale and Oxford. whats the point of a driving license? just get in a car and start driving. whats the point of getting married? just force yourself on some girl on the side of the street and plant your seed - this is the logic of david wood. the point of the scriptures were to serve as a guidance to the people of the time (as mostly appropriately decided by Allah S.W.T will) the torah was send to the Hebrews, and the bible through Jesus to serve the people of the Aramaic era. But the Quran was not intended for a specific group of people, rather the whole of humanity. Torah - an eye for an eye, a tooth for a tooth; we all can agree this mentality won't fly in modern times Bible - turning the other cheek; this doctrine doesnt fly either. no Christian worth the name would take a slap on one cheek and then turn the other. Quran - the Quran however, dictates the rules of engagement. when necessary, deliver justice. but do not transgress beyond the limits set by the Almighty. as a deterrent force. isnt that the systems of modern constitutions in the world today? dont all countries have a strong standing deterrent force to repel attacks? and even IF Christianity was true, Jesus says turn the other cheek, Western unions drop bombs. Jesus says dont have swine, bacon is a daily staple for Christians. In effect, CHristians already broke the law set by their "son of God". but since Jesus "died" for the sins of mankind, it's alright to sin and lead lives the way THEY see fit, not the way JESUS TAUGHT. how convenient.

  • @omoolag6594

    @omoolag6594

    8 жыл бұрын

    but you know Quran is a lie about the truth

  • @AftabAhmed-ib9ex

    @AftabAhmed-ib9ex

    6 жыл бұрын

    but you know that yor are lying lol and you want to blieve paul and not jesus

  • @americafastest6482
    @americafastest64827 жыл бұрын

    I am confused with john 16:12, I still have many things to say to you, but you cannot bear them now. IS HOLY BIBLE IS INCOMPLETE AS PER JESUS?

  • @cgr5161
    @cgr51618 жыл бұрын

    Love David and Shabir.

  • @user-gn6cn2up1y
    @user-gn6cn2up1y3 ай бұрын

    Jesus is my Lord and my savior .....thank you David for a great debate

  • @titaniumsteel9114
    @titaniumsteel91146 жыл бұрын

    Question: "Are there errors in the Qur'an (Koran)?" Answer: Though Muslims often argue for the divine origin of the Qur’an on grounds that “no error, alteration, or variation” has touched its copies since its inception, such a view does not accurately represent the facts. While it is indeed correct to say that the Qur’an of today is a nearly perfect copy of its seventh-century counterpart, the notion that these copies reflect the exact words as handed down by Muhammad is becoming increasingly problematic. Historical sources prove that there were several different texts circulating in Syria, Iraq and Armenia prior to the final revision produced by Uthman. Zaid, Muhammad’s long-time secretary, was called in by Uthman to oversee the final and definitive authorized version of the Qur’an. All other copies of the Qur’an were then burned so that there could be no challenge to the authorized text. It remains to be answered why Uthman would have had to produce an authorized version of the Qur’an, if indeed the Qur’an had been perfectly preserved from the beginning! To quote Alfred Guillaume, one of the best-known non-Muslim scholars on Islam: “Only the men of Kufa refused the new edition, and their version was certainly extant as late as A.D. 1000. Uthman’s edition to this day remains the authoritative word of God to Muslims. Nevertheless, even now variant readings, involving not only different readings of the vowels but also occasionally a different consonantal text, are recognized as of equal authority one with another!” When one compares the different transmitted versions of the Qur’an, it becomes evident that there are, in fact, variants among them. While these variants usually involve differences in individual letters, vowels or diacritical marks, the Muslim claim of perfect unity in the copies of the Qur’an is incorrect. Moreover, since part of the Islamic claim is that God has been giving revelations to mankind throughout history, including the Psalms of David and the four Gospels, one wonders why it is claimed that Allah miraculously preserved the Qur’an in infallible copies, whereas Allah was apparently singularly incapable of accomplishing the same feat with the previous revelations. Let us weigh the validity of the claim at hand. Just how excellent is the literary quality? In his book, Jesus Among Other Gods, well-known Christian apologist Ravi Zacharias argues: “Let us consider just one troublesome aspect, the grammatical flaws that have been demonstrated. Ali Dashti, an Iranian author and a committed Muslim, commented that the errors in the Qur’an were so many that the grammatical rules had to be altered in order to fit the claim that the Qur’an was flawless. He gives numerous examples of these in his book, Twenty-three years: The Life of the Prophet Mohammed. (The only precaution he took before publishing this book was to direct that it be published posthumously.)” In the book which Zacharias cites above, Dashti writes: “The Qur’an contains sentences which are incomplete and not fully intelligible without the aid of commentaries; foreign words, unfamiliar Arabic words, and words used with other than the normal meaning; adjectives and verbs inflected without observance of the concord of gender and number; illogical and ungrammatically applied pronouns which in rhymed passages are often remote from the subjects. These and other such aberrations in the language have given scope to critics who deny the Qur’an’s eloquence…To sum up, more than 100 Qur’anic aberrations from the normal rules and structure of Arabic have been noted.” Are there errors in the Qur’an? - What about fulfilled prophecy? Islamic apologists make the claim that the Qur’an predicts Muslims would be victorious at home and abroad (Surah 30:1-5). But this can hardly be utilized as an argument for a divine origin. The prediction that Muslims would be militarily victorious (especially when one considers Muhammad’s overwhelming military force) is not very impressive. Not only is the time between these predictions and their subsequent fulfillment almost nil, but some argue the prediction of Islamic victory is better understood as a pre-battle victory speech from Muhammad to boost the morale of his troops. Islamic prophecy does not even come close to the level of the prophecies in the Bible, many of which were written hundreds of years in advance, such as the prediction that Jesus would be born in Bethlehem (Micah 5:2). Are there errors in the Qur’an? - What about scientific insights? In A Brief Illustrated Guide to Understanding Islam, Islamic apologist I. A. Ibrahim argues: “The Qur’an, which was revealed fourteen centuries ago, mentioned facts only recently discovered or proven by scientists. This proves without doubt that the Qur’an must be the literal word of God, revealed by him to the Prophet Muhammad, and that the Qur’an was not authored by Muhammad or by any other human being.” How valid is this claim? First, conformity to science is not proof of divine inspiration. As modern scientists will admit, scientific models are constantly changing, so they are not an absolute gauge for what is true or false. Second, there are some highly suspect scientific statements in the Qur’an which are ignored by modern Islamic apologists. For example, Surah 23:14 makes the claim that human beings are formed from a clot of blood. Surah 18:86 claims that the sun sets in a spring of murky water. Clearly, even if the claims with respect to scientific insights were valid, the above statements would immediately falsify any such notion of divine inspiration. Are there errors in the Qur’an? - Are there historical inaccuracies? While the list of historical inaccuracies and anachronisms is vast, one has been selected for discussion here. Surah 20 relays the incident of the golden calf. In Surah 20:85-88, 95 we read: “He [Allah] said, ‘We have tempted thy people since thou didist leave them. The Samaratin has led them into error.’ Then Moses returned…and we cast them [(gold) ornaments], as the Samaritan also threw them, into the fire.’ (Then he brought out for them a Calf, a mere body that lowed; and they said, ‘This is your god, and the god of Moses, whom he has forgotten.’)…Moses said, ‘And thou, Samaritan, what was thy business?’” Now, let us consider this for just a moment. How can a Samaritan have led the Israelites astray at the time of Moses (approx 1400 B.C.) when the city of Samaria was founded by King Omri about 870 B.C.? The Samaritans did not exist until after the exile of the Northern Kingdom of Israel and the resettlement of the area under King Sargon II in 722 B.C. with non-Israelites who then adopted a syncretism (mixture) between the religion of the Jews and their own polytheistic background. The Samaritans did not exist until 530 years after Moses. By this mistake alone, the Qur’an can be rendered unreliable and certainly not an inerrant work of God. Are there errors in the Qur’an? - Conclusion Having outlined just a handful of many problems and difficulties pertaining to the Qur’an as a divinely inspired work, we are all but forced to reject the Islamic claim that the Qur’an represents an error-free word of God to humanity. When a similar standard is applied to the Bible, the result is self-vindicating, for the Bible emerges flawless.

  • @noorulameen804
    @noorulameen8044 жыл бұрын

    David Wood: God become a human being...? Even a chronic lunatic won't believe in such madness!

  • @shubo8417
    @shubo84178 жыл бұрын

    Say, He is God, the One and Only; God the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not nor is He begotten; and there is none like unto Him. - Quran 112

  • @nicknickleton-kumordjie4
    @nicknickleton-kumordjie46 жыл бұрын

    Dr Shabir Ally, what if you finally have to encounter Jesus Christ as your judge and not your saviour? That would be a tragic loss don’t you think? After knowing about Him all these years? My hope is that you experience a Damascus moment. And that hope is for all those who do not know Him today.

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    The name Jesus never to be found in the the 4000 years of the old testament

  • @izhaarulhaque6806

    @izhaarulhaque6806

    3 жыл бұрын

    kzread.info/dash/bejne/a3WumbCoipvQc9Y.html

  • @titaniumsteel9114
    @titaniumsteel91146 жыл бұрын

    Muhammad's views on Christians The Christians of Najran Interaction with Muhammad during the Medina Period The city of ancient-Najran, which is called Ukhdud today, is located just outside present-day Najran approximately 1200 miles south of Medina. Ancient-Najran was a Christian city located at the intersection of two main caravan routes. The city was also in a particular geographical place which allowed it to boom with agriculture and industry making it an ideal center of trade. One can infer that this played a significant role in Muhammad’s interest in the city. Due to this interest, the Christian identity became vulnerable to Islam first in the Meccan period with the increase of the Qu’ran availability throughout the Arabian Peninsula. However, it was not until the Medina Period that the first interactions between the Christians of Najran and Muhammad took place.[4] It was during Muhammad’s time in Medina that he began inviting different groups to Islam. He sent two envoys specifically to Najran; one of them being the Islamic leader Khalid ibn al-Walid who would protect the people’s ability to practice Christianity under Islamic government.[5] So in response, Najran sent a delegation of Christian scholars with the interest of investigating the Prophet’s revelations. Their group was met with hospitability and security from the Prophet. The delegation and Muhammad met for two or three days, according to some sources, debating peacefully about their religions. The debates ended in an understanding that each religion would leave the other alone.[6] Here is the link to the Covenant between Muhammad and the Najrans: [1] [7](located under the heading Covenant with the Christians of Najran). And here are the terms in which the covenant was to be kept: In the name of God, the Merciful, the Beneficent. This is what Muhammad, the Prophet and God’s Messenger, has written down for the people of Najran when he has the authority over all their fruits, gold, silver, crops and slaves. He has benevolently left them all that in return for 2,000 hullas every year, 1,000 to be given in the month of Rajab and 1,000 in the month of Safar. Each hulla is equal to one ounce [a measure equal to 4 dirhams]. The Najran are also required to provide accommodation and expenses for my messengers, for up to 20 days. None of my messengers shall be kept in Najran more than one month. They are also required to give, as a loan, 30 shields, 30 horses and 30 camels, in case of any disorder and treachery in Yemen. If anything is lost of the shields, horses or camels they loan to my messenger, it will remain owing by my messenger until it is given back. Najran has the protection of God and the pledges of Muhammad, the Prophet, to protect their lives, faith, land, property, those who are absent and those who are present, and their clan and allies.They need not change anything of their past customs. No right of theirs or their religion shall be altered. No bishop, monk or church guard shall be removed from his position. Whatever they have is theirs, no matter how big or small. They are not held in suspicion and they shall suffer no vengeance killing. They are not required to be mobilized and no army shall trespass on their land. If any of them requests that any right of his should be given to him, justice shall be administered among them. He who takes usury on past loans is not under my protection. No person in Najran is answerable for an injustice committed by another.[8] This covenant remained intact after the death of Muhammad until the second caliph, Umar, expelled the Christians of Najran due to violations of the peace. He sent them to Iraq where there were to be taken as refugees and provided settlement.[9]

  • @sherralsimon2165
    @sherralsimon21656 жыл бұрын

    Brilliant

  • @markmeyer1076
    @markmeyer10767 жыл бұрын

    I highly favor David Wood as a Scholar of Faith and Reason rather than a scholar of theories and assumptions.

  • @D7omy911
    @D7omy9118 жыл бұрын

    Big lies in David woods first rebuttel

  • @D7omy911

    @D7omy911

    8 жыл бұрын

    +James DeBest there long I'll just point out 2 1-that the Quran tells to judge by the bible 2.that Allah is the greatest deceiver

  • @Farhan_Chohan83

    @Farhan_Chohan83

    8 жыл бұрын

    +James DeBest This is how you want to translate it. Yes judge them by their book if they have it but what they have is their own lies. Even then when anyone says that OT and NT contradicts each other then you say the NT canceled it. And you don't want to admit that it clearly imply that Paul cancel Jesus and Moses. With all these clear contradictions you people claims that it's a word of God. You either say that the whole book is word of God and accept the plain contradictions OR the other common sense answer could be that the OT is not the word of the God thus NT is. Just simply saying that OT and NT don't have contradictions then you simply liying to yourself and others and even making fun of you. Just like saying God is one but simple 3 persons. Each person is a god but father is the most powerful but a human and angel are gods as well but all of this is 1 God. Jesus didn't know the knowledge of the hour but somewhere else he is the creator god too. Just try to make sense of this and you end up no where will find yourself lost in the translations.

  • @Farhan_Chohan83

    @Farhan_Chohan83

    8 жыл бұрын

    +James DeBest Well you people can tell what was there and what was taken out. For example one of Gospel according to John had direct trinity concept and it was taken out as a fraud I am pretty sure it is common sense that Allah couldn't have done that. It will not make much sense to you because you are lost in ignorance thus became Dumn, Deaf, and blind. If this above omission is not a serious one to you then you can't even help yourself and only Allah can help you if you are sincere. I heard this too *Topkapi 2270 variances: What are the variances are there different versions? verses are taken out, Do we have a Quran with differnt number of chapters just some Bibles have 72 books and some have 66 books and some Bibles have some verses vs some don't (John example)? your liar friend Jay Smith always lie and make up numbers he just came up with # 2270 and that reference is his own head. *Sana Manuscript Datings: One Folio: Medium date 593 and another Folio: Medium Date 516 + variances Which corbon dating was use there were other labs who got a result in 600s exactly in the time of Usman (RA). Did liar Jay Smith explained if he understood the difference with 78% probability or more than 90% probability. He randomly selected a probable dates from one lab and conveniently ignore the rest. *Samarkand only goes to Surah 43 + many variances, Text erased and written over *All the copied Jewish Apocrypha writings and pagan beliefs Lets campare this with Quran and find out (Jewish Apocrypha writings and pagan beliefs) and see the similarties and also date those. (Just another allegation when looking for ignorance cover) *Remember the Hafs reading was only standardised in 1924 Improvement for non Arabic speaking people. I am one of them. It is not differnt vesion or anything was taken out or added. *Poor you who follows a false prophet.... Poor you you will still remain ignorant for rest of your life. You follow Paul not Isa (AS). All of you failed and failed and failed every single time to prove even one verse from your Bible where Isa (AS) claimed I am a god or I am son of a god therefore worship me. Or where Allah claimed that Isa (AS) was His son thus also worship him as a god. You think about it logically and be fair to yourself and ask for Allah's mercy if you at least believe that there is one God. Just pray to Him for once. Drinking wine, eating swine, or eating a Cross shaped cookie ain't praying.

  • @D7omy911

    @D7omy911

    8 жыл бұрын

    +James DeBest reference the Turkish scholars And it doesn't matter that criticism is probably old The Quran cannot be changed Compare it with this If every body memorized a calendar and they didn't have any digital equipment to keep it will they lose it? No Just like the Quran every body memorized it back in the prophets time Jay smith already debates Shabir a year ago and he got destroyed he brought arguments against the Qurans authenticity but Shabir destroyed him 5 months later 2 pages from the original Quran came and there exactly like the one we have today big fail

  • @D7omy911

    @D7omy911

    8 жыл бұрын

    +James DeBest If the book doesn't know why uthman burnt some of the Qurans and doesn't know where's uthmans compiled Quran then I shouldn't pay attention to it cause it's a joke

  • @mvk-delta5423
    @mvk-delta54238 жыл бұрын

    i am officaly done watching shabir ally debate. he turns EVERYTHING through islamic lences i can see how david feels now when he says this. example old testament isaiah 9:6 david said that a son will be given who will be mighty god and is ever lasting father prince of peace. Then later shabir gets to respond knowing that right after its a new question so david cant correct him so shabir changes the verse 9:6 and says oh well it does not say son of god it just says son and not god, or that jesus is not the ever lasting father. first off shabir needs to read the verse he quoted the exact verse but skipped out the word mighty god who the son will be on purpose i can tell on his face he did it on purpose, and jesus did say he is ever lasting father by being the alpha and omega. Then the questioner asked david, how can Jesus be god if he doesnt know the day or the hour? and david made a clear response and quoted a verse where Jesus says no one knows the hour, not even the angels, not even the son but the father only. so by this verse what jesus says he says no humans know, and above the humans not even angels, then even above angels is the son so this would make jesus either way not equal with humans as he himself puts him above us in this verse. then shabir twists it up knowing david wont get a chance to reply and say just because the word son is being used it doesnt mean its jesus the son of god who hes talking about. well shabir jesus is talking about his own return so hes refering to the son obviously as himself, and i can defend the same arguement just because it says only the father knows i can say well it says father not god so i guess its talking about someones dad? many muslims will never see it, jesus died on the cross and history proves it, eyes dont lie god would never trick our eyes, jesus lived in heaven before he came down to earth knowing all the secrets about god and heaven and he told us about it, no one who wrote the quran ever even met jesus id rather not beleive them. matthew,luke,john,paul,peter, they ate,slept,walked,talked, lived with him throughout his entire life. David wood came prepared he totally looked like the one who won this debate. shabir looked confused and mis quoted verses on purpose. david destroyed this debate 100%

  • @AllaahuAkbar60
    @AllaahuAkbar606 жыл бұрын

    Rabbana wa laa tuhamil naa ma laa ta qata lana bihi wa fu anna wa agfir lana warhamnaa anta mawlana fansurna alal qawmil kaafireen.....

  • @maryrobinson3174
    @maryrobinson31742 жыл бұрын

    We don't fall on our faces we bowe our head put our hand together lower our head Don't tell that lie we don't have have to beg our Lord s to stop u wicked lies on us

  • @venkatrao-ju3cm
    @venkatrao-ju3cm6 жыл бұрын

    I am sorry but I have to point out that David's phony smile is a sign of disappointment he is confused and does not make any sense what he is saying, trying hard but unable to have an intellect debate.

  • @ogilby5
    @ogilby58 жыл бұрын

    David is making the straw man argument

  • @abdulmalik_al-habeshi

    @abdulmalik_al-habeshi

    5 жыл бұрын

    Al Ali That is his specialty

  • @markmeyer1076
    @markmeyer10767 жыл бұрын

    A person that speaks on behalf of God is a messenger. A Prophet is someone who claims of an event or person that will come to be or pass. Christ Jesus can and does make Prophesies of which He has no Problem as Prophets are made by God and not Angels and Jesus as one with God naturally has this power and much much much more.

  • @nikolakrcic1021
    @nikolakrcic10215 жыл бұрын

    Shabir won??? Do you guys just close your ears when David talks, or simply forward the parts when David speaks? It has to be one or the other, or your last option that you guys don't want the truth.?

  • @titaniumsteel9114
    @titaniumsteel91146 жыл бұрын

    Jesus Christ must be born in every man. If I had been born at the time of Jesus Christ I would have washed his feet with my blood, because when Christ touches one's heart is is changed,all aspects of of life are renewed and sanctified. Messiah Jesus of Nazareth, as the Bible says, is as holy as the bright light, as innocent as a lamb, the eternal food of life of the soul, the LORD of the truth, He is certainly the spiritual master and King of the Jews castes. Jesus'death on the cross was not an accident. It was decided by God for redemption of mankind. I ambrace and accept Jesus whom I denied for a long time in my life. With God and the Bible, one cannot rule the world properly.

  • @YassinELSHAER
    @YassinELSHAER Жыл бұрын

    Why does David think that the gospel the Quran is talking about, is the canonical gospels that are in the Christian New Testament. Firstly, it refers to gospel in the singular not in the plural so that means that not all 4 gospels are regarded by the Quran to be initially divine. The Quran claims that the gospel was placed upon Jesus in 5:46, so this means that the gospel the Quran was referring to is a book that was sent down to Jesus when he was still alive before the crucifixion. The four canonical gospels that we have today in the Christian New Testament, were written decades after Jesus in a different language than the one Jesus spoke. The gospel that the Quran refers to and talks about was preached by Jesus himself during his lifetime, according to the Quran in 3:50. The 4 gospels in the New Testament were written decades after Jesus so we can clearly show a distinction between the gospels of the New Testament and the gospel that the Quran refers to. David seems to misinterpret the Quran’s gospel as the same gospels in the New Testament. David wood is a professional liar.

  • @YassinELSHAER
    @YassinELSHAER Жыл бұрын

    The Quran in 3:55 is stating that Jesus’s true followers will triumph and will be superior to those who disbelieve. Well, that verse never actually declared when this will take place, the triumph of the true followers of Jesus over the untrue followers of Jesus could take place at any time. Us Muslims, regard ourselves to be the true followers of Jesus and Muslims have a population of 2 billion people and that’s roughly 25% of humanity and Christianity has a population of 2.3-2.4 billion people and that is roughly 31% of the human race. However, a recent study conducted which was a comprehensive religious forecast for 2050 by the Pew research center indicates that the Muslim population is growing at a faster rate than the Christian population. Islam will become the largest religion, Muslims are expected to grow twice as fast as the overall global population. So Islam is going to surpass Christianity by 2050 in population, which means that the true believers of Jesus ( The Muslims ) will triumph over the Christians ( the disbelievers of Jesus ) so David’s argument has just been refuted.

  • @drek6502
    @drek65024 күн бұрын

    Muslim said Dr ally won and christian said Dr David won,

  • @waynebrowne11
    @waynebrowne118 жыл бұрын

    Shabir's Second rebuttal was excellent... I dont know what some of u muslims were listening to but the is no way Shabir won this debate... Can u muslims listen closely to both debators plzzzzz

  • @markmeyer1076
    @markmeyer10767 жыл бұрын

    There is no entity with a greater hatred of Christ Jesus than the devil. Should Mohammad be credible having claimed of three gods and spoken devil words? Obviously not.

  • @tomceman4451
    @tomceman44518 жыл бұрын

    Jeremiah 20:7, Number 23:19, Quran 4:157 At 39:48. Shabir Ally accused God of lying in Jeremiah 20:7. Shabir Ally is not an honest man. He used the Bible if it supports Islam. He trashed the Bible if it goes against Islam. He invoked scholars if it helps Islam. He trashed scholars if it hurts Islam. He also said that the Bible is corrupt when he does not like it. Shabir quoted the Bible when it helps Islam. Shabir Ally responded to David Wood’s accusation that allah lied in Quran 4:157. Shabir should have defended Quran 4:157 by saying that allah did not lie. Instead of defending allah, Shabir said that Yahweh lied too. Shabir Ally said that God of the Bible also lied in Jeremiah 20:7. Allah lied. Yahweh lied. It is no big deal for God to lie. “O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived; You have overcome me and prevailed.” My presupposition says, “God cannot lie.” Number 23:19. "God is not a man, that he should lie; neither the son of man, that he should repent: hath he said, and shall he not do it? or hath he spoken, and shall he not make it good?" Muslims made stupid interpretation of Number 23:19. “God is not a man.” Stop. “That proves that God is not a man. He can never be a man.” Muslims can never understand the Bible, if they read the Bible for the sole purpose of proving Christianity wrong. What scholars interpret the Bible this way? I want to know their names. This is the interpretation. God is not like a man that He should lie. God is not a liar. Man is a liar. What God said, He does. God does not change His mind. Man changes his mind. Man does not do what he said he will do. God does what He said. God has integrity. Christians can rely on God. Christians can put their trust in God. Muslims will also read Number 23:19 like this, “God is not the son of man.” Stop. “Son of man” refers to human being. The Muslims want “the son of man” to refer to Jesus. That proves that God is not Jesus. This verse speaks about God’s integrity. It is a comparison between God and man in one attribute of God. God is truth. God is not a liar. God keeps His promises. God does not lie. God does not change (His mind). I did not understand the passage in the beginning. Gill's commentary helps me. What did God promise Jeremiah? What was the result of the promise? Did God fulfill his promise to Jeremiah? Why did Jeremiah say that God deceived him? In Jer 1:10 and Jer 1:18, God said to Jeremiah, "I chose you to be a prophet to the nations." "I have appointed you this day over the nations and over the kingdoms. I will put my words in your mouth. Do not be afraid of them, for I am with you to deliver you. They will fight against you, but they will not overcome you, for I am with you to deliver you.” Jeremiah told people the bad news. The false prophet ordered that Jeremiah be beaten and put in stocks in upper Benjamin Gate. Jeremiah said to God, “O LORD, You have deceived me and I was deceived.” Jeremiah falsely accused God of lying. Things did not go well for Jeremiah. God kept his promise to Jeremiah. God delivered Jeremiah in the end. When demons said that Jesus was the son of God, Muslims say you cannot trust demons because they are deceptive spiritual beings. When Jeremiah said that God deceived him, Muslims believe Jeremiah speaks the truth.

  • @AllaahuAkbar60
    @AllaahuAkbar606 жыл бұрын

    Allahumma inni aa oozubika min azaabil qabr wa min azaabi jahanam wa min fitnatil mahya wal mamaat wa min shari fitnatil masihid Dajjal.....

  • @AnsarAli-cu9rh
    @AnsarAli-cu9rh2 ай бұрын

    Look at David Woods Eyes

  • @mhmdnazel1
    @mhmdnazel18 жыл бұрын

    Hallaj is a sufi saint who was " swimming " in the ecstasy of" union with the divine" where the self no longer exist.. Only the divine exist..nothing else...If u hv not studied Sufism or the books of Imam Ghazali.. or hv experienced it. it is very difficult to explain.. but it is a path that can be replicated by any who wants to submit to the will of ALLAH and follow a Sufi MAster who will guide to the realisation of the divine.. Jesus was most probably the first of the Sufi Masters...wallahu aalam

  • @titaniumsteel9114
    @titaniumsteel91146 жыл бұрын

    Reading 2 Phil 2:6-1 Christ Jesus, though he was in the form of God, did not regard equality with God something to be grasped. Rather, he emptied himself, taking the form of a slave, coming in human likeness; and found human in appearance, he humbled himself, becoming obedient to death, even death on a cross. Because of this, God greatly exalted him and bestowed on him the name that is above every name, that at the name of Jesus every knee should bend, of those in heaven and on earth and under the earth, and every tongue confess that Jesus Christ is Lord, to the glory of God the Father. Alleluia

  • @jackboesouwer5952
    @jackboesouwer59522 жыл бұрын

    Just listen to whom almost all the questions are directed to them know that it is the one who is more knowledgeable otherwise why direct you’re questions to him 😂

  • @williambrowning4842
    @williambrowning48428 жыл бұрын

    Why does Dr. Ally attack the injeel, if the injeel is from Allah?

  • @MultiMasterGamer101

    @MultiMasterGamer101

    8 жыл бұрын

    cuz Ally believes that the original injeel is not the same injeel.

  • @matrixplosive
    @matrixplosive2 жыл бұрын

    Wood is such a poor debater. He starts off the bat quoting Bible verses when Dr Ally had pointed out the clear evolution of the Gospels story. Note: two quotations from mark that doesn't say anything- then the rest from the other modified Gospels. Christians debaters must before going on to quote bible verses, reject with reason the clear evolution in the gospels story; but again we know that's impossible. Until such evidence against the evolutionary story of the gospels is given, quoting bible verses becomes irrelevant.

  • @neversupportinjustice8571
    @neversupportinjustice85715 жыл бұрын

    David and all those who believe he David is right to say (Jesus is son of God) are unlucky obstinate who are not willing to go to jannah (heaven) thereby continuing to oppose Allah's (God) orders meant to be followed as a true believer (S). How can a Jesus be a son of God. I think it is their misunderstanding of the God's orders/messages which came through His Prophets and Books Torah Gospel and Quran. 2. Now Quran being the last book from Allah supercedes all previous books. therefore whole mankind is supposed/required to follow Quran and the last Prophet Prophet Muhammad peace be upon him, 3. God is far beyond our apprehensions therefore no human being can be his son. God simply says whatever he desires to happen it happens in its perfect shape; this is how the whole universe was created by Allah (God)

  • @Damian-vc1je

    @Damian-vc1je

    4 жыл бұрын

    Read Isaiah 14: where your Allah is made reference. Ilal which in Hebrews mean crescent Moon. The greatest of all deciever, master of deception, the one who causes death, the one responsible for sin, the Lord of this world asper your Koran. We know of him as fallen angel Lucifer aka snake and dragon: Satan the devil, you know of him as allah.

  • @zacharyibach3812
    @zacharyibach38126 жыл бұрын

    Another perspecitve: Jesus did drive out the Romans, as an enduring spirit past the days of his life. The Roman Empire did eventually convert and/or fall, depending on the region. Just think about it. Perhaps it was Jesus.

  • @paulmc5813
    @paulmc58136 жыл бұрын

    fter the two days, he left there for Galʹi·lee. 44 Jesus himself, however, bore witness that a prophet has no honour in his own homeland BUT Jesus was a prophet but was more than a prohet other statenmt about jesus also

  • @dablac76
    @dablac768 жыл бұрын

    The reason why he's attacking the Quran is because it attacks his beliefs but that shouldn't really matter my thing is why is all these Christians willing to the to debate all these Muslims when their own people is leaving the faith you got all these people that are claiming to be Christian but know more about their football teams or their iPhones and then they know more about the Bible you can ask them one commonly known verse in the Bible and they don't even know what they claim to be Christians is funny to me that they waste all this time trying to convert Muslims when they can't get their own people who claim to be Christians to even go to church because of you look at a lot of different things what's going on now a lot of people. Claiming more to be atheist then anything because they growing up without believing anything the people now that are raising their children they're not teaching their children about God they're teaching and something else these days they should be concentrating on inventing the message to these young people instead of trying to convert Muslims

  • @tomtomtommy1697
    @tomtomtommy16978 жыл бұрын

    C)We do not see God our Jesus but we know HE is in our soul and HE talk through HIS people as well "Allah " we do not see him but we see his people too so to those who are planning to talk with Imam Shabir Ally please do not come to a discussion he never admit he just trying to be over more christian than christian . Imam Shabir pls check the video of your country man in the youtube "holy Quran Converted me to Christianity" former Indian Imam Sulaiman. Please come to the house of Christians you are a child of God and his son Jesus.

  • @finalcleverness
    @finalcleverness8 жыл бұрын

    People leave christianity everyday. Where ? To either Atheism or Islam. Why? They are the ones who actually read the bible -_-

  • @klsvmk
    @klsvmk6 жыл бұрын

    السلام عليكم و رحمه الله وبركاته ... يا أخوان لغتنا الانجليزبة ليست ممتازة ممكن ترجمه المناظرات كلها للعربية بين الإسلام والنصاري .. هذا مجهود مميز وجزائه كبير أنشالله عند الله تعالى.

  • @taylorlee6536
    @taylorlee65368 жыл бұрын

    Amazing David, loved watching this!

  • @anneeq008

    @anneeq008

    6 жыл бұрын

    Taylor Lee So did I! I love seeing this slippery, skinny poisonous toad slapped down and put in his place 💚.

  • @mysteryhaha3150

    @mysteryhaha3150

    5 жыл бұрын

    @@anneeq008 dream on

  • @0412313161
    @04123131618 жыл бұрын

    David wood reminds me of a slick used car salesman.

  • @Magic818100
    @Magic8181004 жыл бұрын

    This is really sad when you really breathe the Hebrew in the Torah know where is God introduced in 3 person and I have challenge Christine's in all to prove to me by the Torah this is why the Jews and the Hebrews they will not accept Christianity teaching making God in three person because when you read the actual original Hebrew in never introduces Gothic 3 person God is always one

  • @tomtomtommy1697
    @tomtomtommy16978 жыл бұрын

    B)Imam Ally he never stop talking and lie about christianity ,he can talk without stop the hall day and night he want to change or divers the word of christianity to his Allah's plan in every talk he do with all the people he stand to protect his" Allah's" yes he must do it for his Allah and the christians must do for Jesus too . We do not see God our Jesus but we know HE is in our soul and HE talk through HIS people as well "Allah " we do not see him but we see his people too so to those who are planning to talk with Imam Shabir Ally please do not come to a discussion he never admit he just trying to be over more christian than christian . Imam Shabir pls check the video of your country man in the youtube "holy Quran Converted me to Christianity" former Indian Imam Sulaiman. Please come to the house of Christians you are a child of God and his son Jesus.

  • @YusufKhan-xq7mg
    @YusufKhan-xq7mg7 жыл бұрын

    if Jesus is son of God according to bible,, then according to holy book of Hinduism ""geeta"" Krishna is god. why don't you accept Krishna father of jesus

  • @jessesepulveda5792

    @jessesepulveda5792

    3 жыл бұрын

    Bc we don’t believe in Hinduism

  • @mahmoudlashin9821
    @mahmoudlashin98215 жыл бұрын

    david wood remove half of this debate in this channels

  • @mhmdnazel1
    @mhmdnazel18 жыл бұрын

    david doent understand...even with massive corruption, the bible still retains some of the original teaching of the earlier jewish prophets ..the only way to distinguish them is by the Quran...especially the Unity and the Oneness of ALLAH. If the trinity is true ..what happens to the people who came before Jesus who worshipped ALLAH alone???????????

  • @omoolag6594

    @omoolag6594

    8 жыл бұрын

    Quran is a book of fables

  • @omoolag6594

    @omoolag6594

    8 жыл бұрын

    Quran is a book of fables

  • @karlos6628
    @karlos66288 жыл бұрын

    There is a book out there titled " the 2 powers in heaven" by a Jewish writer, last name SegalThe ancient Israelite knew 2 YAHWEHS -The one who never revealed to them and the other JEHOVAH who kept revealing HIMSELF-SOMETIMES even in person.the 2 JEHOVAHS often appear together in the OT. .Early Judaism understood this portrayal and its rational, there was no sense of a violation of Monotheism since either figure was indeed Jehovah ,during the second temple period, Jewish theologians and writers speculated on an identity of the second JEHOVAH. guesses range from divinized humans to exalted angels. those speculations were not considered unorthodox.that acceptance change when certain Jews, the early Christians. connected JESUS with the orthodox JESUS idea.this explains why these Jews .the first converts to following JESUS the Christ. could WORSHIP the GOD of Israel and JESUS.JESUS was the INCARNATE SECOND JEHOVAH.

  • @hameedkatoor7469
    @hameedkatoor7469 Жыл бұрын

    Dawah is the duty of All Muslims in the world

  • @turanyigit1146
    @turanyigit11468 жыл бұрын

    David always asks why. But nobody knows better then Allah.

  • @AnsarAli-cu9rh
    @AnsarAli-cu9rh2 ай бұрын

    Allah is eternal why will Allah want to have a son for be very careful David Wood don't mess around with Allah

  • @AnsarAli-cu9rh
    @AnsarAli-cu9rh2 ай бұрын

    Don't mess around with my Allah you all will see and find out the truth one day

  • @ALINAGORI
    @ALINAGORI8 жыл бұрын

    Sam shamoun you can't ask for some one to be arrested after a suicide

  • @Alkalino.Munich
    @Alkalino.Munich5 ай бұрын

    Is Jesus God? Christian: Yes. Did Jesus died? Christian: Yes. Did God died? Christian: No 😂